For ages in Nigeria, BSc has been considered above HND but there're some professional courses that are being studied by both institution which does not require any atom of dichotomy. Let's take a look at the course ARCHITECTURE.

This course has the same mode of learning at both ends, the teachings are the same, the laws and norms of the course are the same, the textbooks are the same, methods of execution are the same, the syllables are the same, in fact everything to get you up and running in the course are the same.

The only difference is the manner of teaching which is based on the individual (lecturers) in charge at both ends. To me, studying Architecture in the Polytechnic is the best because you actually get in touch with the practical aspects and physically take part in it while still knowing what your partner at the other end knows. They both propose and evaluate designs.

Many students in the Polytechnic can easily erect a building from start to finish even with their OND but same cannot be said about their University counterparts. This course is practically oriented and also demands a lot of individual creativity and technical abilities. Many Universities only deals more on the theory but they neglect the important practical part of the course because without a practical knowledge of the construction the Architect might end up creating more headache to the Engr on site thereby subjecting him to numerous corrections.

The irony of the whole matter is that many companies in Nigeria only hire University graduates as employees therefore neglecting a HND holder who has the same knowledge. It's not about the University or Polytechnic you went to but how creative you're in the field because it's an art too.

I beckon on Nigerian HR and construction companies to please give the HND graduates the chance to prove themselves and you'll marvel with the knowledge they have in this field. Creative minds are wasting on the streets. People with money making ideas for your real estate firms are wasting. Many a loosing hope in the course and dreams shattered. Many Poly graduates are industrious, they speak good English and they can defend their works.

They can also improve to the standard you want (Masters, PhD). Architecture is not Public Administration or Political science it's a course that calls for creative and practical minds with a sound knowledge of the course and building construction in general.

If you say so, I believe!

But without doubt, those assertions only exist in pages of newspapers. That discrimination still exists in reality.



I dedicate this FTC to my friend and Brother, Borono Iniodu, who is a year older today. Wishing you all the good things of life.

This person above me, how can you be this fast?? I thought I have finally fulfilled a part of my destiny which my father always tell me to always be the first among others.
Why did you deprive me of that, why??
Mtcheeww

Hmmmm

Ok

itz true they deserve a chnce

Interesting

Lies. 7UP- The difference is clear

I agree with you if you're gonna start your firm but not totally when it comes to being an employee

OP... you really made my day, I'm a HND holder in architecture can't forget how B.Sc students of architecture from some schools call me to help with their design and rendering... Honestly, architecture is far more beyond certificate, it is the will to learn things by yourself!

Having a better certificate doesn't guarantee your success in that field.

Like what my mentor in architecture once told me, he said don't learn architecture as a professional course alone learn the business of architecture.

below are works designed, modelled and rendered by me.

Once you can take up being a freelance in architecture, believe me you can take job from M.Sc. holder.

I will assume that you have an HND?

But I don't believe HND students are being discriminated against in Architecture.

OK.

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true..
if you want HND go for engineering courses e.g elect/elect, chemical etc.
this courses are selling in the labour mkt like hot cake..... expecially elect/elect..
all my colleagues we graduated together are employed and they are all doing just fine....
proudlyHNDelect/elect....

Your title is misleading

I was pounding on this issue with my dad while driving me to work this morning...

Who said there is no discrimination in Architecture?

I finished my OND in architecture last year (according to school calendar) .

To start with, you can never register as Architect with HND except you're ready to go through the stress of writing 3 professional exams.

At NIA(Nigeria institute of Architects) meetings HND holders can only be called technicians and not Architects.

Yes, there is little or no discrimination in the labour market, but some very few people that has vast knowledge of architecture will still tell you that they will like to give their projects to Bsc holders.

Our(arvhitects) own problems lies in our hands.Only if HND holders are allowed to certify buildings, Then discrimination is over, but if we're allowed to seal drawings. We're are now at Per.

I'll like to drop my pen here.

Warm Regards from an architect to be.!

Good morning y'all.

Ok

Yes only if you are self employed

Fucking liar, Architecture depends on creativity, Curiosity, Personal motivation and Hardwork either you are a BSc or HNd graduate. Am an architecture student in a state university in Nigeria. I once saw a final project of an Nd 2 Arch student and when I saw his physical model I was surprised imagine designing a primary school with bad oriented parking lot and (Been in 200l that time) I corrected him where he was telling me that he knew.Imagine, Someone telling you he knew that he did rubbish. If someone could did that to his own work then more of that should be expected in his client work. We were recently been giving an assignment on designing a interior space of an hotel bar with the Plan, Spacial analysis, Lighting analysis, Design philosophy.You can't do any of these without readin and theory. Architecture is more than site work, beauty and art. It's more of been professional, Philosophy, Technology, Functionality and Design scope which you can't achieve any of it without theory. Polytechnic students/graduate's should stop shading the University ones.It's all about professionalism.

what is the need of a practical knowledge if you don't have a sound theoretical knowledge.
listen, the complications (problems) witnessed in buildings, is caused by lack of background knowledge. I was discussing with an artisan on the field, who claims "experience and practical knowledge" and he was saying that stirrups(links) can be spaced at 450mm, for a floor beam, I was shocked. However, the maximum spacing of a stirrup is 300mm (1 foot) according to standard. This example I gave is just minor.
you need to witness the blunders people that claim they have "practical" knowledge commit.

practical knowledge can be gained by practice, but how about the theoretical knowledge, can it?.

hardbite:
what is the need of a practical knowledge if you don't have a sound theoretical knowledge.
listen, the complications (problems) witnessed in buildings, is caused by lack of background knowledge. I was discussing with an artisan on the field, who claims "experience and practical knowledge" and he was saying that stirrups(links) can be spaced at 450mm, for a floor beam, I was shocked. However, the maximum spacing of a stirrup is 300mm (1 foot) according to standard. This example I gave is just minor.
you need to witness the blunders people that claim they have "practical" knowledge commit.

practical knowledge can be gained by practice, but how about the theoretical knowledge, can it?.

So, are you trying to compare the knowledge of an artisan to that of a polytechnic Graduate

HND graduates are by far more hardworking and can hustle harder for a job than those bsc people.

hardbite:
what is the need of a practical knowledge if you don't have a sound theoretical knowledge.
listen, the complications (problems) witnessed in buildings, is caused by lack of background knowledge. I was discussing with an artisan on the field, who claims "experience and practical knowledge" and he was saying that stirrups(links) can be spaced at 450mm, for a floor beam, I was shocked. However, the maximum spacing of a stirrup is 300mm (1 foot) according to standard. This example I gave is just minor.
you need to witness the blunders people that claim they have "practical" knowledge commit.

practical knowledge can be gained by practice, but how about the theoretical knowledge, can it?.

Lol... Funny, see what you're comparing.

foliman:
OP... you really made my day, I'm a HND holder in architecture can't forget how B.Sc students of architecture from some schools call me to help with their design and rendering... Honestly, architecture is far more beyond certificate, it is the will to learn things by yourself!

Having a better certificate doesn't guarantee your success in that field.

Like what my mentor in architecture once told me, he said don't learn architecture as a professional course alone learn the business of architecture.

below are works designed, modelled and rendered by me.

Once you can take up being a freelance in architecture, believe me you can take job from M.Sc. holder.

Lol... typical mindset of every Nigerian architect...

nobody wants to take up the jobs in the ministry and that is why the town planners believe they are superior to us, because we've neglected our job at the ministry of housing and every one wants to Freelance..

faorex:
I was pounding on this issue with my dad while driving me to work this morning...

Who said there is no discrimination in Architecture?

I finished my OND in architecture last year (according to school calendar) .

To start with, you can never register as Architect with HND except you're ready to go through the stress of writing 3 professional exams.

At NIA(Nigeria institute of Architects) meetings HND holders can only be called technicians and not Architects.

Yes, there is little or no discrimination in the labour market, but some very few people that has vast knowledge of architecture will still tell you that they will like to give their projects to Bsc holders.

Our(arvhitects) own problems lies in our hands.Only if HND holders are allowed to certify buildings, Then discrimination is over, but if we're allowed to seal drawings. We're are now at Per.

I'll like to drop my pen here.

Warm Regards from an architect to be.!

Good morning y'all.

Just an advise, with ur OND, go buy direct entry form into uni and get your Bsc/MSC in Architecture easily. You will frustrate yourself if you continue with HND.

1. You will eventually do PGD and masters before you will register and be certified

2. With ur HND, you will labour while the Bsc certifies and take glory for your work and enjoy ur money.


I am a COREN certified Engr and I know what poly graduates pass tru in my field.

ufondunenye:
This person above me, how can you be this fast?? I thought I have finally fulfilled a part of my destiny which my father always tell me to always be the first among others.
Why did you deprive me of that, why??
Mtcheeww

Very funny.
Don't lose hope. You shall fulfil destiny soon.

madapcmod:


Just an advise, with ur OND, go buy direct entry form into uni and get your Bsc/MSC in Architecture easily. You will frustrate yourself if you continue with HND.

1. You will eventually do PGD and masters before you will register and be certified

2. With ur HND, you will labour while the Bsc certifies and take glory for your work and enjoy ur money.


I am a COREN certified Engr and I know what poly graduates pass tru in my field.

Thanks for the advice sir.

bought my D. E form already.

to do PGD And masters is not a bad idea too, but it's just too stressful.

and no one wants to go through stress for something that could have been done easily.

Thank you sir for the piece of advice.

All these shading you guys are dishing out to University graduates will earn you no better spot that what you already have. It was your decision to enrol in a polythenic and not theirs. You know the recognition accorded to them and if that's what you want, stop complaining and get a degree. Poly graduates complain a lot but it was their choice.