ansger:
I have a girlfriend who I intend marrying. I asked her about her medical records which she showed me. She told me she's at a cross road over her genotype because the two tests she did in the last five years showed AA and AS respectively, from different hospitals though. I told her to go for another test recently and it came out to be AS still.

I saw the record of the first one which was AA and it was from a government hospital, while the two last ones are from a Private Hospital. I seriously need advise here because I'm AS too.

1st, genotype like other investigations, is not run by d Dr. It's run ideally by d lab scientist in d laboratory.
Yes, there can be mistakes & d mistake can be human or material. If u're in doubt, ur surest bet ll be a tertiary health facility like d teaching hospitals.
As to ur major concern, AS + AS is a relative (not absolute) contraindication for marriage. Dat depends on a No of factors wc include (but not limited to) ur pockets, believes & degree to wc u guys love ursefs. U may wanna see a Gynaecologist, preferably one wt wu's a Fertility Specialist, to educate ur more.

[quote author=Gloriagee post=65225150]Yeah, the church will have stopped the marriage if both of us were AS. Most Nig churches do and I definitely am in support.
I have no faith to take a chance of birthing sicklers n will avert that risk as much as I can.

I do not agree on that I have never heard of a church stopping marriages of AS couples I know they might discourage you but never stop you.

Guitarlife:
You do have a right to take this position but if the church were to take this logic it totally defeats the whole essence of the message of Faith that the church stands for.

Plus I think for an organisation its totally discriminatory and also intrusive.

Such a decision clearly relegates the seat of the holy spirit. Its rather disturbing, I am not sure churches abroad could pull that off.

They'd get sued and rightly so.

It does not! Faith is not foolishness, o! The bible says it very clearly: "Be it unto you, according to your faith." Do you have an instrument or a barometer, for determining the faith levels of each human being? Isn't it better to avoid trouble down the road, than to rush headlong into it and then start claiming faith? It is people like you that give others bad advice, in order to mislead them. AS plus AS is a No-No! If you have ever witnessed a person with sickle cell going through a crises, you will understand why!

It is a commendable practice from the Church. God has given us the wisdom to handle a case like this. You don't need to tempt God by going into such union. I watched a young man and lady from the same parent went through life of misery and died at 22/25 years of age because of cycle cell anemia. I didn't may a lady I wanted to marry because she is AS, It was unfortunate but I did let her go.

Gloriagee:
Yeah, the church will have stopped the marriage if both of us were AS. Most Nig churches do and I definitely am in support.
I have no faith to take a chance of birthing sicklers n will avert that risk as much as I can.

Personally, I 'heard' that I'm AA but I have had a fair share of weird illnesses growing up and even now, I still get sick. No one in my family falls ill except me.
It's like a different health complain every week.
My parents still insist that I'm AA and I sure as hell ain't ready to go find out by myself.

ansger:
I have a girlfriend who I intend marrying. I asked her about her medical records which she showed me. She told me she's at a cross road over her genotype because the two tests she did in the last five years showed AA and AS respectively, from different hospitals though. I told her to go for another test recently and it came out to be AS still.

I saw the record of the first one which was AA and it was from a government hospital, while the two last ones are from a Private Hospital. I seriously need advise here because I'm AS too.

Both of you go in and redo the test. the result is it, don't wish the AA on her cos an SS child cannot be wished away.

Good luck

Drabrah:


1st, genotype like other investigations, is not run by d Dr. It's run ideally by d lab scientist in d laboratory.
Yes, there can be mistakes & d mistake can be human or material. If u're in doubt, ur surest bet ll be a tertiary health facility like d teaching hospitals.
As to ur major concern, AS + AS is a relative (not absolute) contraindication for marriage. Dat depends on a No of factors wc include (but not limited to) ur pockets, believes & degree to wc u guys love ursefs. U may wanna see a Gynaecologist, preferably one wt wu's a Fertility Specialist, to educate ur more.

Good points. I heard of something like what you are hinting at in Portharcout where AS + AS couples were able to avoid SS offsprings under medical advise/guidance.

Gloriagee:
Yeah, the church will have stopped the marriage if both of us were AS. Most Nig churches do and I definitely am in support.
I have no faith to take a chance of birthing sicklers n will avert that risk as much as I can.

Which church do you attend?
Such thing happened to me when i was about to get married,i found out that our genotype was As,the pastor asked us,whether we will believe the report of God or men,we chosed to believed that of God,he highlighted the implications of the whole thing according to doctors.
Today,iam married to my Angel,with two sweeet babygirls,both are AA,to hell with doctors report.
I'm a winner.

Guitarlife:

You do have a right to take this position but if the church were to take this logic it totally defeats the whole essence of the message of Faith that the church stands for.

Plus I think for an organisation its totally discriminatory and also intrusive.

Such a decision clearly relegates the seat of the holy spirit. Its rather disturbing, I am not sure churches abroad could pull that off.

They'd get sued and rightly so.

do u av faith to drink a poison? I doubt u av ever had a close relationship with with a sickler child.. Do u know d horror dey go through nd many end up dying in their prime. I wish d government can criminalize bringing a sickler child into dis world.. Wat u are suggesting is same logic dat refuses the doctors advice for blood transfusion in some cycles.

Yes, error of genotype do happen. But it's not medical doctors that do genotype tests or any test generally, it's the medical laboratory scientists.

Error of genotype results can only happen if the lab that did it is either a substandard or mushroom lab manned by quacks (e.g. SLT holders, microbiology holders or biochemistry holders) or the medical laboratory scientist does not implement quality assurance in his/her lab.

Error of genotype result is UNFORGIVABLE. It brings untold hardship to innocent families. Any lab that issues such result must be sued. Quackery is criminal especially medical quackery. Any bonafide medical lab without quality assurance mechanism instituted does not deserve to exist and a medical laboratory scientist that issues wrong tests result is at risk of going to jail and having his/her licence revoked.

OP, visit quality labs for your genotype test. Labs like Pathcare and BodyAffairs if in Abuja or Pathcare, ClinaLancet, Afriglobal, Mecure, Arrive Alive, Clinix, Union etc if in Lagos. Specifically ask for HPLC genotype test. The price is higher, mostly between 5-7k but there is no possibility of error in that type of genotype test. It's like a confirmatory genotype test.

PLEASE, we must all report any medical lab or hospital that issues wrong test result to the authorities in charge (HEFAMAA in Lagos, FCDA in Abuja or MLSCN generally). Those labs can kill. You will not only be getting justice for wrong done to you but you will be saving lives by doing so.

me i hv forgotten my genotype

Doctors don't do genotype test pls. When things go wrong people scream doctor, when they go right, they claim it's not doctors but other departments. Pls restructure ur post.

Since it's confirmed that there's error of Genotype report on the part of the lab attendants (sic) Doctors,does this not mean that the so called Christian testimonies of Genotypes being converted is mostly false?

thatigboman:
how can a church stop an AS from marrying another AS? When I think I have heard it all.

This very common in Nigeria ....i got married in Catholic church in Nigeria and was told to submit my genotype .

Papoose269:
Bro, I lost a sister to sickle cell years ago and till date it still hurts because she was such a sweet soul, she had a really bright future ahead of her. This is my advice, look for the most reputable laboratory in your city of residence and get a test done there. Love is not enough in this case, if she is AS please use your head and not your heart because I've seen what sickle cell anaemia does to a human beings and you don't want to put an innocent soul through a lifetime of pain all in the name of love. It is well.

what of an AS genotype, in love with a SC genotype, somehow, they've lasted 10 good years together... the SC genotype carrier is clearly healthy, like rarely sick, and in fact about just 1 crisis occurrence in 2 years, would you advice they marry to adopt? advice without sentiments tho.

Papoose269:
Bro, I lost a sister to sickle cell years ago and till date it still hurts because she was such a sweet soul, she had a really bright future ahead of her. This is my advice, look for the most reputable laboratory in your city of residence and get a test done there. Love is not enough in this case, if she is AS please use your head and not your heart because I've seen what sickle cell anaemia does to a human beings and you don't want to put an innocent soul through a lifetime of pain all in the name of love. It is well.

Thank you oo. It isn't about faith. It is the risk or pain u could put an innocent unborn child through. Apply logic in this case don't just rely on religion and faith.

Yes, it's possible. My sister had two conflicting results. She went to two other hospitals to confirm.

My friend's husband left his ex because her blood group is O negative. Before he got married to my friend, they had their blood group tests done, and hers came out O positive. One year down the line, my friend went to UNTH for child delivery, over there it's part of their requirements to keep blood aside in case of emergency surgeries, and demanded for another blood group test because they don't accept results from outside the hospital. Lo and behold\! the result came out as O negative, the husband couldn't believe it, he rushed outside and carried out a confirmatory test in a nearby laboratory, it was still O negative.

We were all grateful that UNTH requested for their own test, there would have been disaster, if my friend had gone into surgery and got O positive blood pumped into her system.

Back to myself, I have had Genotype done in Nigeria, and when I did another one in London, it came out as AS. I told the doctor that the result is wrong. He asked where I did it previously, I said Nigeria. He said nope, that the one I did in the UK is the correct one. I told him nope, I requested for another test in a different GP, which came out as AA.

dam007:
what of an AS genotype, in love with a SC genotype, somehow, they've lasted 10 good years together... the SC genotype carrier is clearly healthy, like rarely sick, and in fact about just 1 crisis occurrence in 2 years, would you advice they marry to adopt? advice without sentiments tho.

very few people marry with the intention only to adopt . If the plan doesnt change and it only to adopt then ok

If the intention changes to have biological children , then it very risky ........if this was AA with SC then that would have been better

LagosismyHome:


This very common in Nigeria ....i got married in Catholic church in Nigeria and was told to submit my genotype .

wow. That's how my wife's Christ Embassy were making spurious demands. I abandoned them and went and trad. And we have been living happily.
I told her to tell her church that whenever they are ready, they can call me for marriage blessing. No church wedding for me. Period.

Guitarlife:

You do have a right to take this position but if the church were to take this logic it totally defeats the whole essence of the message of Faith that the church stands for.

Plus I think for an organisation its totally discriminatory and also intrusive.

Such a decision clearly relegates the seat of the holy spirit. Its rather disturbing, I am not sure churches abroad could pull that off.

They'd get sued and rightly so.

no 1 is going to force u, they will only advice. I'm sure u Dont want to take that risk

ansger:
I have a girlfriend who I intend marrying. I asked her about her medical records which she showed me. She told me she's at a cross road over her genotype because the two tests she did in the last five years showed AA and AS respectively, from different hospitals though. I told her to go for another test recently and it came out to be AS still.

I saw the record of the first one which was AA and it was from a government hospital, while the two last ones are from a Private Hospital. I seriously need advise here because I'm AS too.

It is 100% possible those lab attendance sometimes could be funny, and handle people's blood sample carelessly, it happen to me and my girl when we were about to get married last year. i had always known my genotype to be AS, and my always know hers to be AA. first it was during my pre-science days, we were asked to do all these test as part of admission requirement. secondly in 100L as well. the two result was thesame from different lab. that was when i confrimed it. last year my wife church i intend to do my wedding initially asked me to go for test for their recommended lab which i did, and the result corresponds with the first two i had done in my school days. but due to some reasons we couldn't proceed with the church and had to go do it in my own church, again we were asked to go for test in any a General hospital which we consented. both of us went to a general hospital close to us bc it happens that we stayed in thesame axis. we were asked to come back the following day for the result. my wife was at work that day so i went alone. when i open the result i discovered that both of us were given AA, i quickly called the attention of the lab man and complained to him that, this my 4th time of doing this test, and past result always shows AS how come? he asked me to wait for sometimes and give him time to re-run the test which i obliged, he did for both test and came out with AS on both of them. i was angry and told him that my wife is alway AA and that this is her 3rd time of doing thesame test. He never allowed me to talk he replied that Oga this one na the true result,and admitted that there was mistake on the earlier one that someone bearing dsame surname with my wife then was interchange during the point of recording it on their register and on the lab result sheet. my wife was very annoyed and worried. we decided to go to another general hospital. the second GH confirmed my wife to be AA. we had to go back to the first GH to show them the result obtained in thesame GH like them. the lab man took our blood test again run a fresh test in our presence right then in lab and confirmed the result. he apologized that he wasn't the one that took our blood sample the first time we came and that was were the mistake emanated from. i wanted to take the case up and implicate them for negligence of duty. i told him point blank who knows how many people that they might have confuse and disengage from getting married just for a stupid mistake like this. But his apology was a sincere one and promised that it wouldn't happen again. that they will be more proactive in future..so sometimes you have to check for a couple of lab may be 3-4 times in diff. lab to ascertain your true GT

LagosismyHome:


very few people marry with the intention only to adopt . If the plan doesnt change and it only to adopt then ok

If the intention changes to have biological children , then it very risky ........if this was AA with SC then that would have been better

see I like your response so much. .. wonna hear the whole story??

Gloriagee:
Yeah, the church will have stopped the marriage if both of us were AS. Most Nig churches do and I definitely am in support.
I have no faith to take a chance of birthing sicklers n will avert that risk as much as I can.

In my church, an intending marriage couple must do three tests
1. Pregnancy
2. Genotype
3. HIV
-Wedding is stopped if pregnancy is positive
-For genotype, they are advice's to go and think/pray over it after loads of lecture. If they come back and say they still want to carry on, then, they would be wedded.
- For HIV, wedding will only be stopped if a partner is ignorant (before that time) of the HIV status of the would be partner.

I think this practice should be encouraged in all churches

kevoh:
Since it's confirmed that there's error of Genotype report on the part of the lab attendants (sic) Doctors,does this not mean that the so called Christian testimonies of Genotypes being converted is mostly false?

No!
Many times the result is repeated in 2-3 different hospitals. Does God not answer prayers again?

Guitarlife:

Wait, are you saying the church would have stopped your marriage for genotype incompatibility ?

Thats quite profound. Faith ?

In my church, an intending marriage couple must do three tests
1. Pregnancy
2. Genotype
3. HIV
-Wedding is stopped if pregnancy is positive
-For genotype, they are advice's to go and think/pray over it after loads of lecture. If they come back and say they still want to carry on, then, they would be wedded.
- For HIV, wedding will only be stopped if a partner is ignorant (before that time) of the HIV status of the would be partner.

I think this practice should be encouraged in all churches

Gloriagee:
N here's where we disagree. If you have so much faith not to birth sicklers, I dare say u can stand in faith for ur genotype to be changed prior to marriage. A number of churches - Winners, Redeemed and maybe
Salvation Min have recorded such testimonies.

N FYI, the church is not a govt establishment. If you don't accept my rules, u don't have to get married there, so suing for what?

Most Nigerians are always quick to point out the watered down version of oyibo Christianity, the uncovered hair, gay's n Wat have you but I guess you'll accept their standards when it comes to protecting unborn kids. Well, what do I know?

I totally agree with you on this

@Guitarlife, i dey with u jare. The definition of faith in this our time have added a little common sense as d case of AS + AS not compatible.
U know if the case with Abraham killing Isaac has happened now, we would call it stupidity or the case of peter walking on water or the case of Jesus turning water to wine.
Well, our level of faith defer, either way @ansger, whatever choice u make BE SURE GOD IS INVOLVE, i assure all is well

shadeyinka:


Many times the result is repeated in 2-3 different hospitals.

You are still helping me to make my point! Do you agree that there is a chance the person giving the testimony received a wrong genotype the first time he/she did the test (thanks to 9ja lab attendants' error) before the whole prayer,god,deliverance bla bla bla and then gets a different one after. I don't even want to dabble into genotype and other medical results usually falsified by fraudulent pastors for the sake of miracle and ego trippng and then the regular testimony guys who lie just to be acknowledged by members as having received Yahweh's favour.

shadeyinka:

Does God not answer prayers again?

1. Which god are you talking of? Christian, Islam, Greek, Hindu or Yoruba good? Let's start from there...

kevoh:

You are still helping me to make my point! Do you agree that there is a chance the person giving the testimony received a wrong genotype the first time he/she did the test (thanks to 9ja lab attendants' error) before the whole prayer,god,deliverance bla bla bla and then gets a different one after. I don't even want to dabble into genotype and other medical results usually falsified by fraudulent pastors for the sake of miracle and ego trippng and then the regular testimony guys who lie just to be acknowledged by members as having received Yahweh's favour.


1. Which god are you talking of? Christian, Islam, Greek, Hindu or Yoruba good? Let's start from there...

No use!
.. I didn't know you're from the other side.
Two parallel lines....

shadeyinka:

No use!
.. I didn't know you're from the other side.
Two parallel lines....

Thanks for not wasting my time.

Meanwhile, more confirmation below that these AS to AA testimonies are at best false, as soon as you scrutinise them!

It is 100% possible those lab attendance sometimes could be funny, and handle people's blood sample carelessly, it happen to me and my girl when we were about to get married last year. i had always known my genotype to be AS, and my always know hers to be AA. first it was during my pre-science days, we were asked to do all these test as part of admission requirement. secondly in 100L as well. the two result was thesame from different lab. that was when i confrimed it. last year my wife church i intend to do my wedding initially asked me to go for test for their recommended lab which i did, and the result corresponds with the first two i had done in my school days. but due to some reasons we couldn't proceed with the church and had to go do it in my own church, again we were asked to go for test in any a General hospital which we consented. both of us went to a general hospital close to us bc it happens that we stayed in thesame axis. we were asked to come back the following day for the result. my wife was at work that day so i went alone. when i open the result i discovered that both of us were given AA, i quickly called the attention of the lab man and complained to him that, this my 4th time of doing this test, and past result always shows AS how come? he asked me to wait for sometimes and give him time to re-run the test which i obliged, he did for both test and came out with AS on both of them. i was angry and told him that my wife is alway AA and that this is her 3rd time of doing thesame test. He never allowed me to talk he replied that Oga this one na the true result,and admitted that there was mistake on the earlier one that someone bearing dsame surname with my wife then was interchange during the point of recording it on their register and on the lab result sheet. my wife was very annoyed and worried. we decided to go to another general hospital. the second GH confirmed my wife to be AA. we had to go back to the first GH to show them the result obtained in thesame GH like them. the lab man took our blood test again run a fresh test in our presence right then in lab and confirmed the result. he apologized that he wasn't the one that took our blood sample the first time we came and that was were the mistake emanated from. i wanted to take the case up and implicate them for negligence of duty. i told him point blank who knows how many people that they might have confuse and disengage from getting married just for a stupid mistake like this. But his apology was a sincere one and promised that it wouldn't happen again. that they will be more proactive in future..so sometimes you have to check for a couple of lab may be 3-4 times in diff. lab to ascertain your true GT

kevoh:

Thanks for not wasting my time.

Meanwhile, more confirmation below that these AS to AA testimonies are at best false, as soon as you scrutinise them!

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Parallel lines!