dam007:
what of an AS genotype, in love with a SC genotype, somehow, they've lasted 10 good years together... the SC genotype carrier is clearly healthy, like rarely sick, and in fact about just 1 crisis occurrence in 2 years, would you advice they marry to adopt? advice without sentiments tho.

Anything that will put you at risk of having a child/children with sickle cell anaemia should be avoided not for the sake of the love but for the sake of the child. Sickle cell is not beans oh, I couldn't feel the pains my sister felt but trust me she was always in pain and during her last crisis all she could say was she was tired of living such a life, after experiencing that I promised myself that I would always advice any ear that's willing to listen again it.

Guitarlife:

You do have a right to take this position but if the church were to take this logic it totally defeats the whole essence of the message of Faith that the church stands for.

Plus I think for an organisation its totally discriminatory and also intrusive.

Such a decision clearly relegates the seat of the holy spirit. Its rather disturbing, I am not sure churches abroad could pull that off.

They'd get sued and rightly so.

Bros ur grammar is too much. AS+ AS = Wickedness/Evil luv shud b thrownnout d window unless they agree not to reproduce

Yea op dy do dt mistake back to back like tomorrow no dy

mistake is very possible on the part of the doctors

sometimes my girlfriend gets SS report, sometimes she gets AS. many times I get confused, sometimes she has SS symptoms, pains upon pains, but when a man sees her, he gets erection cos she's got both front and back,very fleshy. but It has been diagnosed to be an ss patient since she was 15

Guitarlife:

You do have a right to take this position but if the church were to take this logic it totally defeats the whole essence of the message of Faith that the church stands for.

Plus I think for an organisation its totally discriminatory and also intrusive.

Such a decision clearly relegates the seat of the holy spirit. Its rather disturbing, I am not sure churches abroad could pull that off.

They'd get sued and rightly so.

...it might be same overseas and they are more pro-life and wouldn't want u bring someone that will suffer and die miserably...and AS is only carried by the black race, no AS in caucasians

LaudableXX:


It does not! Faith is not foolishness, o! The bible says it very clearly: "Be it unto you, according to your faith." Do you have an instrument or a barometer, for determining the faith levels of each human being? Isn't it better to avoid trouble down the road, than to rush headlong into it and then start claiming faith? It is people like you that give others bad advice, in order to mislead them. AS plus AS is a No-No! If you have ever witnessed a person with sickle cell going through a crises, you will understand why!

...please tell him ooo...

GreenArrow1:


Good points. I heard of something like what you are hinting at in Portharcout where AS + AS couples were able to avoid SS offsprings under medical advise/guidance.

...educate us more because the only medical advise I know is too avoid the marriage

Toktee:
Which church do you attend?
Such thing happened to me when i was about to get married,i found out that our genotype was As,the pastor asked us,whether we will believe the report of God or men,we chosed to believed that of God,he highlighted the implications of the whole thing according to doctors.
Today,iam married to my Angel,with two sweeet babygirls,both are AA,to hell with doctors report.
I'm a winner.

...ThankGod for you...but try and have 2 more kids and u will hv urself to blame...genetics teaches me that chance of SS being born in an AS/AS relationship is 25%...u escaped the 25%,chance favoured you...but u don't play with an unborn life with this, another couple might not be lucky like u...is no miracle is just basic genetics

mvem:
...it might be same overseas and they are more pro-life and wouldn't want u bring someone that will suffer and die miserably...and AS is only carried by the black race, no AS in caucasians

I am not denying the fact that individuals have the right to make their own decisions as regards this issue.
However, my inquiry is how the church will scripturally justify a decision to prevent two consensual couples from getting married because of
AS genotype .

It sounds more head logic than spirit leading.

mvem:
...educate us more because the only medical advise I know is too avoid the marriage

The way I heard it is that, in cases where the couple are likely to produce SS children as well as non -SS children, when the woman gets pregnant, the genotype of the feotus can be determined in the early weeks of pregnancy (second week I'm not sure). If it is SS, it is flushed out and if not, allowed to proceed to delivery. Apparently, there's a specialist hospital in PH which is quite successful with this practice. So my sister's husband told us. (My elder bro and wife has an SS son).

GreenArrow1:


The way I heard it is that, in cases where the couple are likely to produce SS children as well as non -SS children, when the woman gets pregnant, the genotype of the feotus can be determined in the early weeks of pregnancy (second week I'm not sure). If it is SS, it is flushed out and if not, allowed to proceed to delivery. Apparently, there's a specialist hospital in PH which is quite successful with this practice. So my sister's husband told us. (My elder bro and wife has an SS son).

...is it not against our law...na abortion tinz na

Guitarlife:


I am not denying the fact that individuals have the right to make their own decisions as regards this issue.
However, my inquiry is how the church will scripturally justify a decision to prevent two consensual couples from getting married because of
AS genotype .

It sounds more head logic than spirit leading.

...faith is not foolishness...u know of this but u want to test faith Abi God...and the church is an institution and they should advise on marital and personal issues not only spiritual... I don't see anything there

mvem:
...faith is not foolishness...u know of this but u want to test faith Abi God...and the church is an institution and they should advise on marital and personal issues not only spiritual... I don't see anything there

Faith is foolishness my brother, what would you call Abrahams decision to sacrifice his only son isnt that foolishness ?
I am not so much of a committed Christian myself but I am well aware that the faith being practised these days is the faith of convenience.

That would account for the level of rationalisation I am seeing for this simple logic incuced/ faithless decision.

It is like saying that Elisha telling Namaan to wash himself in a public pool as a means to cleanse his leprosy was foolish ofcourse that was the rational thing to say.

Lets stop fooling ourselves, deep inside us we know the decision and stand of the church on this issue is a reflection of the level of faith of the congregation.

I am not saying it is bad neither am I justifying it. I am just pointing out the not so obvious.

Nigeria is shit hole. A reputable lab told me my blood group is 0 positive . That was what I filled in my nysc card and even in my drivers licence. One day I had typhoid and since they took my blood for test , I decided to ask them to check my genotype and blood group. To my amazement the result brought a different blood group. This time A negative. Visited 3 other labs same A negative. May God help us here

It is d responsibility of a medical lab scientists to carry out genotype test for patients & not of medical doctors.

wen him no use Chelsea drink garri. hw d Dr go do mistake

mvem:
...is it not against our law...na abortion tinz na

Toh, there's morality and there's that battle with reality na. I know a lot of couples will happily embrace this especially seeing that the probability of having an SS in some cases is one out of 5 abi na 4 kids sef.

Hmmmmm the reagents used in checking for the genotype most times ain't original or have expired

Highly misleading topic. Do doctors do genotype test?

mvem:
...ThankGod for you...but try and have 2 more kids and u will hv urself to blame...genetics teaches me that chance of SS being born in an AS/AS relationship is 25%...u escaped the 25%,chance favoured you...but u don't play with an unborn life with this, another couple might not be lucky like u...is no miracle is just basic genetics

Thank you for the advice but i do not planned to have more than two,i'm not from the north bro,moreover,i believed in God and miracle,what you believed is your choice bro.
I'm a living testimony of God's miracle.

Guitarlife:

Wait, are you saying the church would have stopped your marriage for genotype incompatibility ?

Thats quite profound. Faith ?

Thou shall not put the Lord your God to test(Deut.6:16;Lk.4:12). If married in ignorance, God can understand but you can't enter pit with all your eyes open and expect God to save you. Maybe except a couple can prove they hear clear and distinctively from God to continue with such marriage.

Please op do the confirmation for you to be sure n if you guys are carrier of the S, don't get married. Don't bring a sick child into this sick world. Don't make a child live his/her life in pains n regrets.


You can prevent this from happening

Hb Genotype are not done by doctors they are carried out in the lab. My advice go to a reputable lab and do a repeat.

mvem:
...ThankGod for you...but try and have 2 more kids and u will hv urself to blame...genetics teaches me that chance of SS being born in an AS/AS relationship is 25%...u escaped the 25%,chance favoured you...but u don't play with an unborn life with this, another couple might not be lucky like u...is no miracle is just basic genetics

Please stop this faulty line of reasoning. The law of independent assortment also comes into play, during conception. There are AS/AS couples with 4 kids, who have 3 SS kids, among their children. And I have seen AS/AS couples with the same 4 kids, who had 2 SS children among their offspring. So stop propagating that 25% chance. There are relatives of mine who are AS/AS couple with just 1 kid, and that girl was born as an SS child. It all boils down to luck and independent assortment!

He should ask the lady to go for more tests and if it is still AS they must be careful.

ibietela2:
I guess i have to recheck mine

I agree with u i must do that too is not enough doing it only in one hospital i must double check.

LaudableXX:

Please stop this faulty line of reasoning. The law of independent assortment also comes into play, during conception. There are AS/AS couples with 4 kids, who have 3 SS kids, among their children. And I have seen AS/AS couples with the same 4 kids, who had 2 SS children among their offspring. So stop propagating that 25% chance. There are relatives of mine who are AS/AS couple with just 1 kid, and that girl was born as an SS child. It all boils down to luck and independent assortment!

...u don't get probability...the probability of this happening is 25% doesn't actually mean in 4 instances, 1 must be....as far all are independent or mutually exclusive a probability of 1% can happen as many times as possible, is still boils down to chance/luck

Please I'm AA and my girl is AA also

Are we compatible?