cobhampolice:


Airmark ko, Airmathew ni.

cobhampolice:


I know you are brilliant to know all those things are stories for the gods.

You said busquets covered the right side because he knew messi was in the center to cover for him. Why was he running after he saw kante probing into his primary area, since he knew messi was there?

There are stuffs you don't need to defend. Busquets made a fool of himself by that senseless decision, which nearly caused another goal. I expected you to accept it was a mistake that anybody could make.

If you say there's nothing special in putting men behind the ball, you are right, but not every team that put men behind the ball gets a result from such effort. You think wilian always moving to that area busquets failed to protect and shooting, was by luck? Get real.

I don't understand. So he should have stood still after his team lost the ball?

Willian did not move into any area that Busquets failed to cover. Willian's technique of hitting the ball gave him an advantage for the first shot and his goal (after all Rakitic was also behind Sergio when the shot was taken). The second shot that hit the bar was Umtiti and still he too could not stop the Willian shot. Is he also poor defensively?

Meanwhile, Chris passed to Kante who returned the ball quickly for fear of being pressed. Chris wanted to return it again and Kante signalled for the pass to go to Cesc. Chris miss-passes it and the rest is history.

sebod:
Eruditor, stop arguing with Airmark over Busi. It's an exercise in futility.

Just ask him where Krychiowack, his once upon a time best DM is today

I thought his new handle will mean new behavior.

phaamsaam:
I still remember the krychiowiak argument, now it's Kante, those who played the game know better, no basis for back and forth argument, someone who drove mascherano and Alonso away from their God mode positions, plus toure you are calling kanke abi na kante

Kante is the 8th best player in the world, the best player in epl last season, the best French player.

Busquets wasn't even the best dm from Spanish league last season.

cobhampolice:


Kante is the 8th best player in the world, the best player in epl last season, the best French player.

Busquets wasn't even the best dm from Spanish league last season.

So what are you saying, with all the kanke stats, speaks volumes about the quality of the epl last season, as for fifa votes we know what all that is about, Busi that plays the hybrid of dm and cm together. Keep deluding yourself with kanke Mr chase the ball all over the park... Busi has matured from the DM role, since Xavi retired

Biscuits vs Chelsea stats
Sergio Busquets vs Chelsea Football Club:

Most touches (152) ✅
Most passes completed (128) ✅
Most tackles won (6) ✅

Midfield masterclass..take note of most tackles won.. His heat map would give the better picture... Football evolution, DM-CM hybrid

Kanke picture shows him looking so exhausted, doesn't face such quality often in the epl

Eruditor:


I don't understand. So he should have stood still after his team lost the ball?

Willian did not move into any area that Busquets failed to cover. Willian's technique of hitting the ball gave him an advantage for the first shot and his goal (after all Rakitic was also behind Sergio when the shot was taken). The second shot that hit the bar was Umtiti and still he too could not stop the Willian shot. Is he also poor defensively?

Meanwhile, Chris passed to Kante who returned the ball quickly for fear of being pressed. Chris wanted to return it again and Kante signalled for the pass to go to Cesc. Chris miss-passes it and the rest is history.

Not stand still, he should learn how to block channels with responsive positioning. He went to where no one sent him, allowing kante to cash in on his stupid decision and put his defence under avoidable pressure.

When hazard was putting Roberto, paulinho and rakitic under pressure, willian ensured that he went to that same spot where busquets shoud be manning. Umtiti had to come out in one of those moments he exposed them, luckily for Sergio, the ball hit the post. I don't need to expain this with gifs.

Fact is, busquets is a sluggish dm and he couldn't catch up with fleet footed players, he would be exposed. But messi and co are always there to ensure not many people notice he is defensively weak.

So it was kante who asked Christensen to pass to fabregas? Wehdonsir, you can defend a stray bullet.

cobhampolice:


Did I mention tackles in what you quoted? In fact what you highlighted in my post was on great positioning to defend assault.

What do you mean by "shield the defence"?

phaamsaam:


So what are you saying, with all the kanke stats, speaks volumes about the quality of the epl last season, as for fifa votes we know what all that is about, Busi that plays the hybrid of dm and cm together. Keep deluding yourself with kanke Mr chase the ball all over the park... Busi has matured from the DM role, since Xavi retired

Biscuits vs Chelsea stats
Sergio Busquets vs Chelsea Football Club:

Most touches (152) ✅
Most passes completed (128) ✅
Most tackles won (6) ✅

Midfield masterclass..take note of most tackles won.. His heat map would give the better picture... Football evolution, DM-CM hybrid

What of the yellow card collected?

Who do you blame for willian's goal? Who do you blame for rakitic's yellow off willian? Who do you blame for those attempts on goal by willian?

Assuming the game ended 4-1 against your team, it would have been different story from you.

cobhampolice:


Not stand still, he should learn how to block channels with responsive positioning. He went to where no one sent him, allowing kante to cash in on his stupid decision and put his defence under avoidable pressure.

When hazard was putting Roberto, paulinho and rakitic under pressure, willian ensured that he went to that same spot where busquets shoud be manning. Umtiti had to come out in one of those moments he exposed them, luckily for Sergio, the ball hit the post. I don't need to expain this with gifs.

Fact is, busquets is a sluggish dm and he couldn't catch up with fleet footed players, he would be exposed. But messi and co are always there to ensure not many people notice he is defensively weak.

So it was kante who asked Christensen to pass to fabregas? Wehdonsir, you can defend a stray bullet.

Lol for someone who isnt used to how barca play, talking about Busi which was needed in the box for his height, Chelsea took a short corner, very unlike them, it was just a tactical maneuver, alba or Roberto should be Manning that space and not Busi... Guy yarn another thang

TLona1:



What do you mean by "shield the defence"?

Sebod, someone needs your help.

phaamsaam:

Lol for someone who isnt used to how barca play, talking about Busi which was needed in the box for his height, Chelsea took a short corner, very unlike them, it was just a tactical maneuver, alba or Roberto should be Manning that space and not Busi... Guy yarn another thang

Story for the gods. Why was he the one that later ran to meet willian? Excuses, excuses, excuses.

cobhampolice:


What of the yellow card collected?

Who do you blame for willian's goal? Who do you blame for rakitic's yellow off willian? Who do you blame for those attempts on goal by willian?

Assuming the game ended 4-1 against your team, it would have been different story from you.

We play a 2man central midfield, andbusi can't be every where, we all know that, no matter how you think willian should be closed down, his second post came from giving the ball away on the right side, not sure but I think it's Paulinho, you can't close down all shots ogbeni, only double Deckers parkers can do that with ease, not a team who play expansive with possession

cobhampolice:


Story for the gods. Why was he the one that later ran to meet willian? Excuses, excuses, excuses.

He had to try to react ogbeni, seeing the short corner... No need discussing back and forth, Chelsea were smarter on that play overall, and you can't pin that mistake all on Busi if you wanna be honest, from marking a defender in the box, he should suddenly appear in front of the box, na magic?? Busi with all his greatness makes mistakes, all players do, afterall he didn't finish with 100% pass accuracy

cobhampolice:


Not stand still, he should learn how to block channels with responsive positioning. He went to where no one sent him, allowing kante to cash in on his stupid decision and put his defence under avoidable pressure.

When hazard was putting Roberto, paulinho and rakitic under pressure, willian ensured that he went to that same spot where busquets shoud be manning. Umtiti had to come out in one of those moments he exposed them, luckily for Sergio, the ball hit the post. I don't need to expain this with gifs.

Fact is, busquets is a sluggish dm and he couldn't catch up with fleet footed players, he would be exposed. But messi and co are always there to ensure not many people notice he is defensively weak.

So it was kante who asked Christensen to pass to fabregas? Wehdonsir, you can defend a stray bullet.

You don't get brownie points for telling us Kante runs faster than Sergio. Kante's low centre of gravity has made that possible. But blocking channels is what you do when your team is defending. Barca was not defending in that gif.

I repeat Willian did not move to any position. He tilted his body right and curled his shot the 2 times Sergio marked him. It is the same reason defenders have a hard time blocking KDBs crosses: Their technique helps them so that even if you know what they will do, you cannot really stop it.

Do you know how many times Kante won the ball off Messi? NONE. ZILCH. ZERO times.
Do you know how many times Kante was dispossessed? 3 times. Sergio 0 times.
Do you know how many passes Kante tried to make? 25 and only 18 met its target (80%). Sergio made 128 passes and attempted 138 of them (92%).

phaamsaam:
I still remember the krychiowiak argument, now it's Kante, those who played the game know better, no basis for back and forth argument, someone who drove mascherano and Alonso away from their God mode positions, plus toure you are calling kanke abi na kante

he didn't drive Alonso. Alonso and busquet were the 2 holding midfielders for Spain.

phaamsaam:

We play a 2man central midfield, andbusi can't be every where, we all know that, no matter how you think willian should be closed down, his second post came from giving the ball away on the right side, not sure but I think it's Paulinho, you can't close down all shots ogbeni, only double Deckers parkers can do that with ease, not a team who play expansive with possession

Exactly, that one of the reasons kante is better than him. He is too sluggish to be almost everywhere.

Any dm can be caught out of position, but you can use your swiftness to cover up. This is busquets' albatross. Did you see how he was running like a pregnant woman chasing kante in the gif I dropped?

cobhampolice:


What of the yellow card collected?

Who do you blame for willian's goal? Who do you blame for rakitic's yellow off willian? Who do you blame for those attempts on goal by willian?

Assuming the game ended 4-1 against your team, it would have been different story from you.

Tactical foul.. I blame the whole team.. Come and kill me, Paulinho has one, can't remember the first willian shot, the willian goal, d whole team for being outsmarted , all waiting for a cross

cobhampolice:


Exactly, that one of the reasons kante is better than him. He is too sluggish to be almost everywhere.

Any dm can be caught out of position, but you can use your swiftness to cover up. This is busquets' albatross. Did you see how he was running like a pregnant woman chasing kante in the gif I dropped?

But he was everywhere in his heat map, more than Kante, now ask yourself how come a faster player who covers the land and sea couldn't cover the whole midfield like Busi, it's not by running aimlessly, football na brain work, even still got beaten by Busi on tackles won, would beat my imagination if you start comparing them based on speed, well that's what Kante is known for, run, run, run. Leme end this here, no point discussing further, Kanke na learner, watch out for part 2...

Melvyn11:

he didn't drive Alonso. Alonso and busquet were the 2 holding midfielders for Spain.

Lols, he pushed him further up, told him this is my space, oya move up

phaamsaam:

Tactical foul.. I blame the whole team.. Come and kill me, Paulinho has one, can't remember the first willian shot, the willian goal, d whole team for being outsmarted , all waiting for a cross

They used Christensen to pull Sergio into the box while Willian stayed out. As soon as Sergio realised it he ran out to stay infront of Willian who only needed a tenth of a second to release his shot.

Eruditor:


They used Christensen to pull Sergio into the box while Willian stayed out. As soon as Sergio realised it he ran out to stay infront of Willian who only needed a tenth of a second to release his shot.

Now you are going back to say the samething I have said, you are trying to modernize it, if Kante was playing for fcb instead, he would be in that zone because he is short and won't win any aerial battle from a corner, we have pique, umtiti, Busi n Paulinho for our zonal marking from set pieces, Busi n pique are taller than the other two.

phaamsaam:

Now you are going back to say the samething I have said, you are trying to modernize it, if Kante was playing for fcb instead, he would be in that zone because he is short and won't win any aerial battle from a corner, we have pique, umtiti, Busi n Paulinho for our zonal marking from set pieces, Busi n pique are taller than the other two.

I am agreeing with you: That the way they outsmarted us was to pull Busi away during that corner. Christensen who is above 6" was the distraction.

phaamsaam:

He had to try to react ogbeni, seeing the short corner... No need discussing back and forth, Chelsea were smarter on that play overall, and you can't pin that mistake all on Busi if you wanna be honest, from marking a defender in the box, he should suddenly appear in front of the box, na magic?? Busi with all his greatness makes mistakes, all players do, afterall he didn't finish with 100% pass accuracy

He had to react because he knew it was his domain. If he was marking someone in the box, he should have delegated another player to mark that spot for him. There's a reason willian was always targeting that spot to unleash the shot. Conte was smart to find that weak spot.

Eruditor:


You don't get brownie points for telling us Kante runs faster that Sergio. Kante's low centre of gravity has made that possible. But blocking channels is what you do when your team is defending. Barca was not defending in that gif.

I repeat Willian did not move to any position. He tilted his body right and curled his shot the 2 times Sergio marked him. It is the same reason defenders have a hard time blocking KDBs crosses: Their technique helps them so that even if you know what they will do, you cannot really stop it.

Do you know how many times Kante won the ball off Messi? NONE. ZILCH. ZERO times.
Do you know how many times Kante was dispossessed? 3 times. Sergio 0 times.
Do you know how many passes Kante tried to make? 25 and only 18 met its target (80%). Sergio made 128 passes and attempted 138 of them (92%).

Whose fault is it, that kante has a low centre of gravity? When you lose possession, a dm defends, not standing like an electric pole. Rakitic expected busquets to stop willian in the first half and was forced to collect that yellow.

Willian played for us more than 10 times this season and he never got that amount of space to shoot in a match this season. Thanks to your dm who wasn't closing him down well.

Kante intercepted key passes going to barca's key man, messi.

Busquets was dribbled 4 times, you failed to add that bro. One of which forced rakitic to collect a card. He was also dribbled by hazard, another yellow there. You didn't give us these details and more.

phaamsaam:
I still remember the krychiowiak argument, now it's Kante, those who played the game know better, no basis for back and forth argument, someone who drove mascherano and Alonso away from their God mode positions, plus toure you are calling kanke abi na kante

Which Alonso?
Mascherano and Toure yes, but which Alonso?
Marcos Alonso maybe.

cobhampolice:


Whose fault is it, that kante has a low centre of gravity? When you lose possession, a dm defends, not standing like an electric pole. Rakitic expected busquets to stop willian in the first half and was forced to collect that yellow.

Willian played for us more than 10 times this season and he never got that amount of space to shoot in a match this season. Thanks to your dm who wasn't closing him down well.

Kante intercepted key passes going to barca's key man, messi.

Busquets was dribbled 4 times, you failed to add that bro. One of which forced rakitic to collect a card. He was also dribbled by hazard, another yellow there. You didn't give us these details and more.

Busi did not stand. First you asked why he still chased Kante and now claim he stood like an electric pole.

Willian did not have "space" to shoot. The only reason we are talking about the chances today is because he hit the bar. Paulinho's chance was better than the 3 Willian chances (including the goal).

Iniesta and Rakitic caused his own yellow not Busquets. Busquets almost played no role there.

He systemically fouled Hazard at the centre of the pitch when the game was almost done. LOL

Where was Kante during Barca's goal? Tell us about it.

Eruditor:


Busi did not stand. First you asked why he still chased Kante and now claim he stood like an electric pole.

Willian did not have "space" to shoot. The only reason we are talking about the chances today is because he hit the bar. Paulinho's chance was better than the 3 Willian chances (including the goal).

Iniesta and Rakitic caused his own yellow not Busquets. Busquets almost played no role there.

He systemically fouled Hazard at the centre of the pitch when the game was almost done. LOL

Where was Kante during Barca's goal? Tell us about it.

I was taking about busquets standing like a pole when wilian dribbled him and forced rakitic to collect card.


If I bring gifs you will still be arguing.

Where was busquets, the dm while Chelsea was pressing? Very sluggish.

jamescross:
I never cared, its you guys that are talking this trash without manners. doesnt ATM play barca there, are all the teams in our league having big size pitchs

you think Chelsea gives a fvck about your pitch size, as if they don't play on pitchs bigger than stamford.

those barca fans that made mouth should stop consoling themselves about pitch size and face the fact barca was trash yesterday should humble them and make them wait for the 2nd leg.

i see that you are pained, i don't give a fvck, go take panadol if you must

but do you now agree that there is pitch difference ? you made mention of ATM can you remember when last they beat barca at the camp nou...the camp nou is the largest stadium in europe so technically chelsea players don't play in larger pitches like that of camp nou..be usefull 4 once in ur lyf, get ur facts ryt before you start typing rubbish

Unlimited22:

Which Alonso?
Mascherano and Toure yes, but which Alonso?
Marcos Alonso maybe.

Very evident you started watching football recently watch the world cup games in s. Africa and euro 2012,and their qualifiers to determine the Alonso I am talking about, Marcos ain't even a midfielder, funny trying to be sarcastic using him

cobhampolice:


He had to react because he knew it was his domain. If he was marking someone in the box, he should have delegated another player to mark that spot for him. There's a reason willian was always targeting that spot to unleash the shot. Conte was smart to find that weak spot.



Whose fault is it, that kante has a low centre of gravity? When you lose possession, a dm defends, not standing like an electric pole. Rakitic expected busquets to stop willian in the first half and was forced to collect that yellow.

Willian played for us more than 10 times this season and he never got that amount of space to shoot in a match this season. Thanks to your dm who wasn't closing him down well.

Kante intercepted key passes going to barca's key man, messi.

Busquets was dribbled 4 times, you failed to add that bro. One of which forced rakitic to collect a card. He was also dribbled by hazard, another yellow there. You didn't give us these details and more.

You would shift the goal post just to buttress a point, telling me willian hasn't had such amount of space before this season is ridiculous, would remind u of fa cup game, I don't watch Chelsea games that much except they are playing the big teams but I watched that fa cup game, all the back and forth argument, kanke can't lace biscuits boots... It's an open secret.. Case closed

Unlimited22:

Which Alonso?
Mascherano and Toure yes, but which Alonso?
Marcos Alonso maybe.

Very evident you started watching football recently watch the world cup games in s. Africa and euro 2012,and their qualifiers to determine the Alonso I am talking about, Marcos ain't even a midfielder, funny trying to be sarcastic using him

cobhampolice:


He had to react because he knew it was his domain. If he was marking someone in the box, he should have delegated another player to mark that spot for him. There's a reason willian was always targeting that spot to unleash the shot. Conte was smart to find that weak spot.



Whose fault is it, that kante has a low centre of gravity? When you lose possession, a dm defends, not standing like an electric pole. Rakitic expected busquets to stop willian in the first half and was forced to collect that yellow.

Willian played for us more than 10 times this season and he never got that amount of space to shoot in a match this season. Thanks to your dm who wasn't closing him down well.

Kante intercepted key passes going to barca's key man, messi.

Busquets was dribbled 4 times, you failed to add that bro. One of which forced rakitic to collect a card. He was also dribbled by hazard, another yellow there. You didn't give us these details and more.

Like normal epl fans do, you discuss then begin to shift the goal post to suit ur point, anyone can be beaten via change in pace or a dribble, knowing kanke low Centre of gravity n height, shouldnt have talked about pace in the first place, no one said Busi or rakitic can't be gotten past, we are discussing the influence of a gem in the dm-cm hybrid role, I don't watch lots of epl games, but I watched Chelsea Leicester, and kanke and bag of beans Bakatoko had a tough time dealing with mahrez,even the burnmouth game I saw the second half, just to counter ur point about talking about dribbles or yellow card, that no be Koko jorr

Nihilist:


I can see that your career objectives are going very well

Congrats.

When you grow up, you're going to be the village drunk...

does this change the fact that you are too dumb?I guess your own career objective is to invent theories borne out of immense stupidity. Lmfao