tdayof:
Anyway.. Since NSCDC needs all these, we should deploy them to face BHT.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnPM_Ph3VW4

tdayof:
Anyway.. Since NSCDC needs all these, we should deploy them to face BHT.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMTZDMHPFj0

doziex:
Gentlemen, Paul Biya and Idrys deby have been spoiling for a fight with nigeria for some time now.

This aggressive francophone posture,while officially doing business with nigeria comes from the top. Not junior overly ambitious officers.

PMB, general buratai and the Nigerian congress should please wake up to this threat

We cannot control what the francophonies and the French do but we can control our own actions.

QUIT the ostrich mentality, and re equip our armed forces for potential war

They are driving up their Chinese made apcs to scare our border guards because they know that ours are in disrepair, sputtering in the north east or in boko harams junk yard.

Corruption and a poor national security orientation has conspired to bring us to this lowly state we find ourselves

Only a very effective, all encompassing military build up/ spending would reverse our current humiliating state.

patches689:


lol, people are so happy that Zuma is gone... yet they dont see the writing on the wall.

Sure, Zuma stole from us... but Cyril is going to destroy us. Mark my words.

SA's rainfall is predicted to drop by 40% over the next 25 years. Cyril (either by choice, or because of the party) is going to push forward with expropriation without compensation. 90% of previously transferred farms have failed (completely). Expropriation will also wipe about 133 billion of Rand's of assets from the banking sector (commercial farmers owe huge amounts to the banks) so there wont be any capital left to re-invest in Agriculture. Add it up.

The Zimbabwe analogy is a fallacy, what is coming our way is worse - inconceivably worse. Zimbabwe is a rural country, Zimbabwe has a prosperous neighbor to the South. When their farming sector went belly-up and food scarcity hit, their urban population could simply return to the country side for a subsistence life-style, or head South to RSA. We dont have those options - we are an urbanized country with poor neighbors - you are going to have starving and unemployed masses in the cities, many of which will also be facing water scarcity. Its going to get fvcking nasty fvcking quickly.

Hell, and Im not even going to mention the new mining charter - which seems to want to recreate the same Apartheid sanctions that killed the mining sector (and brought the NP to the negotiation chamber), or the new Minimum Wage act (Treasury estimates it will cause potential job losses* for 45% of primary educated labour, 43% of agricultural labour, 52% of private households, about 40% of all full-time workers, 45% of full-time clothing workers, 82% of full-time workers in the agricultural sector, 87% of full-time domestic workers).

To be honest, the party is over. Im going to stay over-seas for the next decade or so - busy working on getting residency in the US atm. Ill wait it out, and work myself to death in a Corporate hell-scape. But when all the new farms have failed, sail in with a pocket-full of USD and buy a nice big slice of land on the cheap. Use that land to leverage a loan from the bank and then buy up another big slice of land. Then sit on it and wait for the sector to recover and sell it off for a nice profit. Ironically, my great grandfather made a small fortune doing the exact same thing in the aftermath of the Boer war.

Its very risky, but the deep irony of a White fella turning this racist land redistribution strategy into a way to generate a tidy sum of money, while the "beneficiaries" of the redistribution get plunged into generations of suffering is just too juicy to resist. There are safer investments, but fvck me, nothing gets me going like a good dose of JUSTICE.


*that % of jobs will now be "at risk", ie: potentially no longer economically viable.

Centrifude:


I'm not sure if you're aware of that fact that once you've obtained the Citizenship of another country you automatically forfeit your South African Citizen, unless you ask for permission to retain your S.A Citizenship before acquiring the new Citizenship, but it's not always guaranteed that you'll be given that permission.

So my reason for raising the issue of citizenship is that, a few years ago a New Law was passed that Foreigners will only be allowed to own only 12 000 hectares of South African land, so since you would most likely have given up your S.A Citizenship, for an American one.. When you come back to S.A you will be considered as a Foreigner, who can only buy two farm houses.

Your plan sounds really great, but the new laws won't be in your favour, like the Law was for your Grand Pappy.

Frumentum:


I disagree with Patches' post, but let's stick to facts. The 2 laws you've cited don't exist.
You might be confusing it with the regulation that states that you have to use your SA passport to fly out and in, otherwise your foreign passport will be treated as if you're on tourist visa even though you're a citizen. For example: before I could fly to Europe on my UK and Portuguese passport - to avoid visas applications and fees; go on to US on same, and then fly home on my SA passport.
It's changed nothing for me if going to Europe - SA passport to exit, present SA and Euro passport on arrival, and same process in reverse.
Unnecessary red tape enacted during a paranoid presidency. Anyway, there's a thread for all this, let's stop derailing this thread.

jln115:

Can barely buy a single Tucano with N5 Bil let alone nukes!!

Jokes!! anyway you have any idea what they mean by nuclear equipment.

jln115:

Can barely buy a single Tucano with N5 Bil let alone nukes!!

Jokes!! anyway you have any idea what they mean by nuclear equipment.

Xbee007:

Are you mocking our naira
Not cool

Journalism in Nigeria has gone to the dog.

Centrifude:


I'm not sure if you're aware of that fact that once you've obtained the Citizenship of another country you automatically forfeit your South African Citizen, unless you ask for permission to retain your S.A Citizenship before acquiring the new Citizenship, but it's not always guaranteed that you'll be given that permission.

So my reason for raising the issue of citizenship is that, a few years ago a New Law was passed that Foreigners will only be allowed to own only 12 000 hectares of South African land, so since you would most likely have given up your S.A Citizenship, for an American one.. When you come back to S.A you will be considered as a Foreigner, who can only buy two farm houses.

Your plan sounds really great, but the new laws won't be in your favour, like the Law was for your Grand Pappy.

jakeporeshenko:
Random

jpphilips:


Your suggestion in your penultimate post makes Nigeria the aggressor, doesn't matter if you understand that, Russia will help Nigeria because of Diplomacy? really? and you know this how? any precedence?

tdayof:


Does this mean Elon isn't South African again?

Xbee007:

It's obvious that BHTs succeeded in kidnapping those students. That is their new found money mine. How much million of Euro/dollars are they going to request for this time around

This administration alone has paid billions of naira in cash to the terrorists. They have freed dozens of hardened Boko Haram commanders in captivity. To make matter worse, they are releasing in droves ex-BHTs in captivity tagging them "repentant ex-members." How are they sure they would not just go back to their terrorism business?

olapluto:

Believe me, we must rank top in having the most incompetent administrators in the world. In fact, BHT should demand our central bank now. Politics has eaten our brains rotten!
Civilians will die, soldiers will die, BHT will die, we will lose money simply out of negligence.

jpphilips:


That is a misinformed position, most of those released are mostly family members of bht arrested during mass raids, most of them in rehab are basically folks abducted to fight against their will, once they had the chance, they voluntarily surrendered to the military , have you considered the human rights implication of continued keeping those folks in detention? Have you considered how valuable their intel is? There are rules of engagement bro!!

Prisoner exchange is an integral part of modern warfare, every country does it, agreed it reinvigorates their insurgency on the flip side, both parties have a new chance to fight from a possessed advantage point.
Look at it this way, imagine if the previous admin did not deny Hedima, but opted to exchange him for a commander or some cash, we would have had a bad ass experienced pilot on a personal mission of vandetta.
What do you think he will do to BHT once he gained his freedom?
You can argue the same for the terrorist we released, in the end, we all live to fight another day.

Xbee007:

Your points are salient but just because we want urgent results shouldn't mean we throw all caution to the wind.
We are reinvigorating them if keep telling them they can kidnap our citizens, all they need is demand for ransom and we will pay.

jpphilips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFzVTdE-XYk

Soldiers halted from advancing to capture Shekau...BBC

tdayof:


Watched the video. The against terrorism is more than arms. To me, if the military can shekau location and stronghold, you should be willing to let guys die to capture or kill the bastard. If it's about bombing him, then I feel it's better. Problem : civilians casualty.


Another option : DHQ should send some SF to carry out a covert operation on him. I'm sure the guy has over 200 men protecting him with technicals and others.

Moves.
1) ID all possible threats and plan for them.
2) Covert operation may need airstrikes to come in on his armed guards location while SF rope down from helos OR ATR.
3) insert Snipers into strategic locations and all officers should be equipped with NVG and personal comms.
4) Once you have SF coming in on him, regular troops should be ready to surround the area and support the SF.

Alot of aircrafts will be needed for such ops . CH3, MI35, A-JET and F-7. A minimum of two ISR aircrafts should be deployed.

Men will die but shekau will be captured or killed. Men die everyday but this will destroy BHT to a good extent.

Deway7575:
DOZIEX!!! my man! Long time! Always frank and straight to the point. No time for unnecessary bickering.
Its sickening how we use our military. Very quick to use the military to shut down anti-government views and populism while they keep mum in the face of external aggression. Cameroon and Chad, we know. Even Benin Rep forces had an incursion across our western border last year, and there was no response from us. Not even a peep from the MOD, DHQ. Nothing.
So much could have been done over many years and so much more could be done now with what we have, but hey, they prefer some of the most infantile and ridiculous operations: Op Python dance, Cat Race, Crocodile Smile and all sorts of nonsense.

krattoss:
what makes u think BHT and shekau doesn't have moles in the military that I'll actually tip him prior to the attack..