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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 4:27pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Oasis007:what's wrong wit my words it took me days to reply to your quotes... you must be kidding me right...? it's like you already have some perceived notions or hold some grudge against me in your heart prior now.... because I can't even remember if we have had disagreement before...even if we had...I must have forgotten because I hardly keep things in mind... I expected you to freely express your mind and prove my quotes wrong by posting your facts... I have never watched dele play for a long time....you should have convinced me and everyone else popping through the thread why he deserve a place in the super eagles... instead you just digress to something else even when I meant the bolded a joke. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 4:29pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: it is well..... may be until this No.1 make a costly mistake in a match....he will learn. *winks. against Cameroon from his wing the Cameroonians had their heyday. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 4:43pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
This goalkeeper crisis don't tire me o ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:04pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
isan: We just hope for the "best risk" to be chosen in the end. Like I said earlier, what we have in the GK role is not a competition but rather a choice of what risks to take best.... Honestly, it is tiring... Let the friendlies just come already... I don tire for the GK Situation... 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:06pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
I asked a question, during the qualifiers, how many goals came from his side? There is nothing you can say here that will influence the coach's decision. He's been playing LB for us for more than 10 years and if he was that bad, he would have been dropped since. You can't tell me we don't have LBs all over the world. For different coaches to be using him, they all can't be silly and Rohr isn't silly either. Until the coach sees him surplus to requirements, there is nothing we say here that will change anything. Humility017: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:09pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Idowu hasn't seen what Echiejile has seen in the SE, until then you cant even compare them. Aina is good going forward but Echiejile is better defense wise. If you doubt me, watch the games both played for Nigeria of recent but with a neutral mind. TheSuperNerd: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:11pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Under-20 list: Nigeria’s lack of adequate database exposed Newly-appointed Nigeria Under-20 coach Paul Aigbogun on Friday executed his first piece of task in charge of the national side – the release of a list of players with whom he intends to prosecute the qualifying series of the 2019 Under-20 Africa Cup of Nations. How efficient or accurate was Aigbogun’s ‘first touch’ as the Flying Eagles handler? Our Chief Football Writer FISAYO DAIRO takes a look at the list and believes that the cankerworm that has masticated on Nigerian football for years is not ready to go away. To start with, it is expected (at least by my humble self) that the task of coaching the Under-20 team this year will not be an easy one for any coach in the land, let alone one that has a full day-to-day job. This is so because the previous National Under-17 set which naturally should form the nucleus of this Under-20s failed to qualify for the African Championship and so, in our normal ways, discarded the lot – talk of throwing away the baby and the bath water. Since there was almost nothing on ground in terms of structure or personnel to work with, one can imagine the sort of work Mr Aigbogun and his crew would have done just to put together a list of players that will be eligible to play for the country at that level. The top flight league in Nigeria hardly helps his cause as league coaches (including the Under-20 handler) always favour ‘old’, recycled legs, most times at the detriment of emerging ones. It is also not a surprise that the three Under-20 players who represented Nigeria at the recently held African Nations Championship (CHAN) in Morocco were the first names on the list because, at least, they have a database aided by their participation in a major competition. For the rest of the selection, they are purely based on guessing and/or speculation on their eligibility since there is no articulate framework to run to. Allegations of cheating No sooner had the list been released by the Football Federation than analysts and journalists across Nigeria take to social media to express one reservation or the other about one, two or three players in the list of twenty-eight. Their major yardstick which could be the only empirical evidence available in a country with abject disdain for record keeping like ours is; the number of seasons such player had played in Nigeria’s first two divisions. Our findings The first name that came to my attention was Douglas Achiv, a good central midfielder who was dropped at the dying minutes of preparation for CHAN 2018 by coach Salisu Yusuf. I discovered that Achiv was also invited to camp by late Stephen Keshi for 2014 CHAN and featured for the first time in the NPFL for Lobi Stars in the 2013 season. However, as being emphasised in this article, there is no record to prove or disprove that Achiv was just an exceptional 13-year old in 2013. Also on the list is goalkeeper Ospino Egbe who is in his third NPFL season with Church side MFM FC of Lagos. My findings reveal that Egbe was third choice goalkeeper at Ocean Boys of Brass in 2010 and famously had an auto accident with his teammate then, Okey Akabogu. Ospino however seemingly went under the radar before resurfacing at MFM, perhaps making the selectors believe he is just playing his third league season. His case is however complicated by the tweet below, showing his year of birth as 1992. One other player whose eligibility has been questioned incidentally is Moses Peter Eneji. He earned himself an infamous red card at the 2018 CHAN final and records available with the Confederation of African Football states that he was born on April 4, 1999. Eneji, our findings revealed joined Dolphins FC (now Rivers United) in mid 2013/14 season from Unicem Rovers of Calabar but left the Port Harcourt side at the end of the season. That suggests that the flying winger started his career so early and was brilliant enough to be playing for second division side UNICEM at 15. Considering where Nigeria and sub-Saharan Africa are coming from with regard to cases of age issues, it must be stated that 3/28 is a wonderful score but the problem inherent in this is the inability to trace the records of other players invited to the team. Players like Adesina Gata, Joseph Abiodun have also been speculated with traces of being overaged but where is the concrete evidence to lay claim to that? It is glaring, even to the blind that this is a societal problem as not only footballers but civil servants, Professors and Politicians have been discovered to have falsified their ages at one time or the other. The society clearly gives these micro organisms enough broth and growth culture to manifest themselves in the future. Since it is never too late to start, it can be recommended that the secrecy which has clouded the dates of births of players in the leagues must be removed so that everyone knows right from the onset. With the advent of the laudable NPFL Under-15 Promises, there is an urgent need for players’ data to go directly into a database starting from the regional qualification level as that is the only way the league stars of ten, fifteen years to come can be monitored. The NFF release included a clause which perhaps was suggestive that the Football House are in the dark as regards some of their dates of births and that has passed the message that this niggling thorn in the flesh of Nigerian football still basks in the absence of database. “All invited players are to arrive at the Serob Legacy Hotel, Wuye, Abuja between Sunday, 25th February and Monday, 26th February, with their international passports, birth certificates and training kits.” https://www.aclsports.com/9877-2/ 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:12pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
^^^Evidence of age-cheating in the newly released under 20 list... A much better report than the OGN report.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:16pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Jordan Torunarigha proved his quality once more in the Bundesliga and this time against Germany's Top team.... He was very impressive. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:17pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Is this based on recent matches you watched or just an assumption? Some of you are just looking for ways to Echiejile, unfortunately for you lot, the buck stops at the coach's desk and from recent statements, Echiejile is in his plans. He played all qualifiers except the Algerian own which was due to injuries, so there is no "past glory" talk here. komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:20pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Oasis007:The bolded is a myth. It never was so in reality. Please mention those players who played for top clubs that you talking about. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:21pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Having followed the league for sometimes now, I would say the list released is filled up with over aged players. I can only count less than 8 players that are within 20 years range, the rest are age cheats. It's so shameful that such a list would be released. More reason I hardly support coaches from the league. It's just irritating that to comment on the list is just somehow to me. tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:23pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Aren't these the players we are suppose to invite to the U20? Is he older than 20? That yeye list just dey irritate me meen! TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 6:23pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Mujtahida:i am sure he meant sunday oliseh(ajax,juve),kanu(ajax,arsenal),amunike(barca),babayaro(chelsea) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:25pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
somehow: It is really sad. What happened to some of the last under 17? And all these youth tournaments that NFF has been organizing? You would think that they would have records of people who have changed their age multiple times in the league. It is a real tragedy. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:27pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
So because Idowu "Neva see wetin Uncle Echiejile don see for GWG shirt".... that automatically makes Echiejile better abi? ![]() And Aina is below Echiejile defensively?? Did you watch Aina against Zambia when he came in? Did you watch him too against Algeria? So you want me to limit myself to just the Argentina first half of Aina abi? ![]() You think Echiejile would have fared better against a fast and super skilful Cristian Pavon?! ![]() I repeat, Echiejile is Rohr's no.1 LB because of his experience and nothing else. And don't tell me you aren't aware that we have not had the luxury of LB options for a while now until Idowu and Aina came into the picture. I rest my case. somehow: 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:28pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
somehow: He is already 21 and he said his father does not want him to play for Nigeria. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:30pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
I am just so speechless. Is the coach saying he can't source for real U20 or at least those WITHIN that range? We have them in academies, foreign clubs and also in few NPFL clubs. I dey vex jare. Just Google each names to see what the search result will reveal. tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 6:33pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
somehow: Remember the 1st goal we conceded against SA? Where the heck was Echiejile. We've seen him not just once, not twice but multiple times ran over and disgraced by opposing wingers. You seriously waiting for us to concede 5 goals from his wing before you know he's an awful LB at the moment? For Christ's sake, the last time I checked, He wasn't starting for a Belgian div 2 clubside? What has kept him in the team this long is lack of competition in his role. What will continue to keep him there is nothing more than sentiments, both because he can do any better than Idowu. We didn't miss him when he was injured at the last WC, we definitely won't miss him if he fails to make it to Russia. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 6:34pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
somehow: How many of those guys would pass the MRI test? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:39pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
somehow: Very annoying to say the least. They would later complain that the NFF prefers hiring foreign coaches. Why won't NFF require foreign handler? To prosecute a simple assignment as selecting real u-20 ballers is a problem. They wine and dine with mediocrity all their lives. They won't prove themselves with such simple tasks. The funny thing is with all these old papas, we might still get thoroughly beaten in the African championships. Very shameful!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 6:40pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Kanu - Ajax, Inter, Arsenal. Taribo - Inter, AC Milan, Auxerre. Okocha - Frankfurt, PSG, Fernabache. Amokachi - Besiktas, Everton. Amunike - Sporting CP, Barcelona. Ikpeba - Monaco, Dortmund. Babangida - Ajax Finidi - Ajax, Betis Babayaro - Anderlecht, Chelsea. Oruma - Marselle. Uche - Fernabache Olishe - Ajax, Juventus, Dortmund. ....... and so on. Are you satisfied or you still want more?! 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:42pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
somehow:I have said it here repeatedly... that agbiogun coach have nothing good to offer.... when you put in someone who never merit the job in a role....it will take serious hardwork for such an individual to meet up...of which I don't think this man can do. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:48pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
tbaba1234: If these games are first team games for his club side in La Liga, then I will agree with you. Otherwise no. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:49pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
tbaba1234:so pathetic.... you know the nff should be blamed for this... someone like finidi who was ready to do the job jostle for this coaching role but he was denied....and now we have a lazy coach who can shout academics all over the country to look for talented players to put together and harness.... even manu garba will do better.... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:49pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
komekn:please who else do you want us to put in goal? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:59pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Humility017: Actually it's getting to the point where potential is much better than established old mediocrity. I want to hope that we at least have one good quality goal keeper playing first team football at a decent level. I am sorry to say I do not know any one. The last one I knew was playing for Burnley fc U23 and was facing the normal black man issues we experience here. So he felt he wasn't going to get opportunities. Otherwise I dint know. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:00pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
somehow:Years of service will not be an albatross on our necks. Performance is what counts now |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 7:04pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
The U20 Handlers should have picked majority from the Pool of Academy Players and very few from the NPFL. You can't avoid age-cheating by picking from the League, except you are so sure of their real Ages. The List should be canceled and fresh one should be made in due Time. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:06pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
komekn:so unfortunate to read about the Burnley under 23 goal keeper....still don't understand why we still don't have a black skinned goal keeper in the epl and championship....may be you can throw more light into this...I will appreciate. anyway that's a story for another day... from your comments it is very obvious uzoho is the best chioce we have...I still believe the black skin problem is likewise telling on his devt in Spain...because from all indices had it been he was a Spanish or a Latino he would have been playing for this first team by now... black goal keepers don't have it easy in European leagues except in the French League....many clubs rarely give them that opportunity.... so I think uzoho is not a bad gamble...for a player to have kept such number of clean sheet in the reserve team is no child's play...that league I will see to be more organized than the npfl... 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:08pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Mujtahida:Lollllll |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:08pm On Feb 24, 2018 |
Oasis007:I have done the analysis here before on this point. It would be too much work for me to do another one again. Let's take Kanu at Ajax and Inter cos the way you mentioned those clubs is the way someone could mention Vicmo for Chelsea when he wasn't a regular at all. Do you know it was Finidi who was a regular at Ajax not Kanu? And you boldly put Inter there when you and I know Kanu didn't play much for Inter. Do check how many times most of these players played for these clubs. 2 Likes |
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