room089:



Aunty you are so close to the reason: he practises 'ChrIslam'.

Sman37:

whatever let him be after u guys said freedom of speech he just said is mind and the truth he felt!
after all bishops have whatever spirit u guys keep deceiving us that we can't understands bibles
and all over the world no bibles said Muslims can't understand bibles as u all xtians lies and claims neither did bible mentioned bibles is only for xtians to study and understand!!!

kasheemawo:
[s][/s] thrash

Olukokosir:
Pls how can I travel from Nigeria to Libya nd from Libya to Europe without bn caught nd jailed or killed ??


Nigeria don taya me

Habyz:
Good afternoon OP.
You are guilty of the crime you accused the "bishop" of. You didn't back up your claim with proof(s).
I'm not supporting the "bishop" or anything I am only interested in the truth.
1. The fact that a religion that was birthed years before another religion has more or less followers is not a mark to establish which of them is better.
2. provide us all with the "different versions of the holy Quran". When a version if the Bible contradicts what another version of the same BIBLE is saying isn't that enough reason to conclude that the holy Bible has been tampered with by humans? Or how is that ridiculing Islam?
The words of God cannot be tampered with because we all are supposed to know them by heart. So tell us how it is going to be tampered with when we know it in detail by heart.
God Almighty doesn't wait for designated times before he answers prayers, the solat is compulsory for every Muslim that is wise enough to know what to do and what not to do. How would you claim to worship God when you don't pray to him?
3. I have a lot of Christian friends and the majority of them won't step into another Church that isn't a branch of there church.
I suggest you do a little research on the history of the Shia and Sunni before saying anything about them.
Speaking of Jesus Christ there's only one versionof him and that is the prophet and messenger of God Almighty, he was the son of virgin Mary.
4. There are tons of fake imams sure but I have never come across it anywhere in any version of the Bible where Christ told anyone not to let people know when they are fasting. Please show it to us all.
5. Whether the leader of a Christian everyone organization welcomes this "bishop" or not is not a mark to show if Christianity is better.
6. You have at least heard of cases where pastors tell there congregation to drink engine oils right, there have been cases of pastors having sex with the wives of men in there congregation. We all know of the issue of tithing with pastors threatening there members with curses. Again I am not supporting this "bishop" but....
7. C'mon the case of America and Britain against Iraq and Iran is a perfect example of violence against islam.
Like i wrote earlier I have a lot of Christian friends and they are good people too.

HeyCorleone:




So much sense here.

The OP was just being sentimental. I'm a Christian, but most of the replies the OP gave were sentimental. I am Catholic, and I know how many times my friends (non Catholics of course) have criticised my Church. There is more enmity within the Church than outside.


If there's anything I know, it's that Muslims are more generous.

alBHAGDADI:
A post by a certain Bishop Sam Zuga is currently trending for a statement he made concerning religion. In the post, the Bishop claims Muslims are better than Christians. This he did with reasons but failed to back them up using the Quran or Bible.

https://www.nairaland.com/4369794/bishop-sam-zuga-why-muslims


Let's examine the reasons he gave to see whether they hold water or are simply falsehood issued to decieve the gullible.




The bishop has hinged his claim on the reason that the population of Muslims is competiting with that of Christianity. This is one big lie and it shows that he is not an informed person. Below is a list showing 7 religions and their population. You can find the list on google.

Christianity (2.1 billion)
Islam (1.3 billion)
Nonreligious (Secular/Agnostic/Atheist) (1.1 billion)
Hinduism (900 million)
Chinese traditional religion (394 million)
Buddhism 376 million.
Primal-indigenous (300 million)

Clearly, one can see that Christianity trumps Islam with over a billion adherents. So where did this bishop get his own statistics from? Perhaps he just assumed that it should be so simply because Muslims practice polygamy and love to give birth to many children. He forgot that however well their population is increasing, it is also decreasing due to the constant Muslim on Muslim violence.



There are also different versions of Quran just as we have it with the Bible (pls google up). The Bishop and many others believe that for there to be different versions of the Bible, it must mean that it has been tampered with. What this Bishop doesn't know is that he is simply ridiculing Islam which claims God's word cannot be tampered with.

Quran 6:115
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.

If that Bishop and all those who believe that the Quran and the Bible contain words of the same God, how come they believe that the words of that God in the Bible were tampered with when he himself said in the Quran that his words cannot be altered?

b. Prayer

What has the amount of times one prays got to do with who's better? And who told this bishop that it's only on Sundays Christians pray? Perhaps he expects to see Christians praying in the streets where all eyes can see, something the Pharisees of Jesus time use to do which He warned us against. Christians pray at anytime they want, not at designated times. They can pray at anytime cos they know their God is not the type that waits till a particular hour before he can listen to prayers.

c. Place of worship

Christians also worship anywhere they want and are even welcomed. No one will prevent you from worshipping in any Church governed by God, cos even non-christians are welcomed. Mr Bishop, can a Yoruba muslim be allowed to lead prayer in a mosque in Northern Nigeria?



I have never seen where a person is rejected by Christianity just because of the Church he attends. Christianity even welcomes people of other faith in Love. Do Sunni Muslims love Shia Muslims? NO. The reason why this Bishop is so accepted by Muslism to the point of him saying they allow him to preach in their mosque is simply because he only plays their tune, meaning he preaches another Jesus. The moment he starts telling them that Jesus is the Son of God, I can assure you that you and I know what will happen to him.



All Christian denominations hold that major believe that Jesus is God made flesh, no dispute about that. I now wonder what this man is talking about.

There are tonnes of fake Imams as much as fake pastors out there; the ones that sell human parts for rituals, the ones that inspire terrorists and jihadists and the ones that sleep with other people's wife.

Jesus Christ already told us not to let people know when we are fasting. That is why we dont broadcast it to the rest of the world. We simply keep it to ourselves.



How do you expect CAN to come and welcome you when they know that it is not Christianity you are preaching but Islam? Have you ever seen Muslims coming to welcome Reinhard Bonke or Bishop Oyedepo? They won't cos nothing they say interests them, infact their words are against the Islamic belief. So, if Muslims are welcoming you, just know that you are in league with them, perhaps their mole.



What this bishop is saying is that if a pastor should tell me to strap myself with a suicide vest and go blow up a Church or Mosque, I'm not to disobey. Now, we know why Northeast Nigeria is the way it is today.

The Quran can't be argued on cos questioning it can lead to beheadings and punishment.



If Christians are not united, how come they are not bombing each other's Church? How come they are not killing each other like we have it in the middle east?

Speaking of gifts, does this pastor know the amount of Christian organizations that have donated gifts to boko haram victims who are mostly Muslims, gifts that are sometimes prevented from the few Christians in the IDP camps?

Muslims believe in a twisted version of Jesus. How can they say they believe in Jesus yet they deny that he is the Son of God?

John 5:26

"For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;

Matthew 3:17

and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.".



I think this Bishop just successfully declared himself a false prophet who should be ignored by all means.

Habyz:
Good afternoon OP.
You are guilty of the crime you accused the "bishop" of. You didn't back up your claim with proof(s).
I'm not supporting the "bishop" or anything I am only interested in the truth.
1. The fact that a religion that was birthed years before another religion has more or less followers is not a mark to establish which of them is better.
2. provide us all with the "different versions of the holy Quran". When a version if the Bible contradicts what another version of the same BIBLE is saying isn't that enough reason to conclude that the holy Bible has been tampered with by humans? Or how is that ridiculing Islam?
The words of God cannot be tampered with because we all are supposed to know them by heart. So tell us how it is going to be tampered with when we know it in detail by heart.
God Almighty doesn't wait for designated times before he answers prayers, the solat is compulsory for every Muslim that is wise enough to know what to do and what not to do. How would you claim to worship God when you don't pray to him?
3. I have a lot of Christian friends and the majority of them won't step into another Church that isn't a branch of there church.
I suggest you do a little research on the history of the Shia and Sunni before saying anything about them.
Speaking of Jesus Christ there's only one versionof him and that is the prophet and messenger of God Almighty, he was the son of virgin Mary.
4. There are tons of fake imams sure but I have never come across it anywhere in any version of the Bible where Christ told anyone not to let people know when they are fasting. Please show it to us all.
5. Whether the leader of a Christian everyone organization welcomes this "bishop" or not is not a mark to show if Christianity is better.
6. You have at least heard of cases where pastors tell there congregation to drink engine oils right, there have been cases of pastors having sex with the wives of men in there congregation. We all know of the issue of tithing with pastors threatening there members with curses. Again I am not supporting this "bishop" but....
7. C'mon the case of America and Britain against Iraq and Iran is a perfect example of violence against islam.
Like i wrote earlier I have a lot of Christian friends and they are good people too.

Saheed9:
your write up isn't consistent at all,
pls I need the different versions of the Quran and where they're being read.
LET'S START WITH THAT

PhilGreen:
Michael Hart, the author of the book *"The 100 Most Influential People"*, took him 28 years to complete.
He ranked *Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) No 1* on the list.
While he was giving a lecture in London, he was booed and interrupted.
People were complaining why he ranked Prophet Muhammed as No 1?

He said:
"The Prophet Muhammad stood in the middle of Makkah in the year 611 and said to the people who were worshipping idols: *'I am the Messenger of Allah'*.
Four people believed in him; his BEST FRIEND Abubakar, his WIFE Khadijah and two KIDS! His message was clear; stop worshipping idols and worship ONE TRUE GOD (ALLAH) and believe in what I'm telling you. How can this be wrong?

Now, even after 1400 years, the number of Muslims has gone almost 2 billion and still expanding.
*He could not have been a liar, because a lie will not last 1400 years! nor could you fool 1 billion people!*
Another thing to ponder is that even after all this time, millions of Muslims will not hesitate to sacrifice their lives over one word that would hurt their Prophet".

*"Is there even one Christian willing to do that for Jesus?"* You claim to worship but with your mouth but muslims do with their heart and entire life is about QUR'AN and Teachings/acts of Prophet Muhammed.

After that, there was DEAD SILENCE in the whole auditorium! Allahu Akbar. Truth is clear from falsehood and falsehood will perish. Please keep forwarding. Assalaamu Alaikum Warahmatullah.

kabrud:
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PhilGreen:
Michael Hart, the author of the book *"The 100 Most Influential People"*, took him 28 years to complete.
He ranked *Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) No 1* on the list.
While he was giving a lecture in London, he was booed and interrupted.
People were complaining why he ranked Prophet Muhammed as No 1?

He said:
"The Prophet Muhammad stood in the middle of Makkah in the year 611 and said to the people who were worshipping idols: *'I am the Messenger of Allah'*.
Four people believed in him; his BEST FRIEND Abubakar, his WIFE Khadijah and two KIDS! His message was clear; stop worshipping idols and worship ONE TRUE GOD (ALLAH) and believe in what I'm telling you. How can this be wrong?

Now, even after 1400 years, the number of Muslims has gone almost 2 billion and still expanding.
*He could not have been a liar, because a lie will not last 1400 years! nor could you fool 1 billion people!*
Another thing to ponder is that even after all this time, millions of Muslims will not hesitate to sacrifice their lives over one word that would hurt their Prophet".

*"Is there even one Christian willing to do that for Jesus?"* You claim to worship but with your mouth but muslims do with their heart and entire life is about QUR'AN and Teachings/acts of Prophet Muhammed.

After that, there was DEAD SILENCE in the whole auditorium! Allahu Akbar. Truth is clear from falsehood and falsehood will perish. Please keep forwarding. Assalaamu Alaikum Warahmatullah.

alBHAGDADI:
1. But your Bishop said used that to prove that Ilsam is better.

2. Nafi (from Medina; d.169/785)
Ibn Kathir (from Mecca; d.119/737)
Abu `Amr al-'Ala' (from Damascus; d.53/770)
Ibn `Amir (from Basra; d.118/736)
Hamzah (from Kufah; d.156/772)
al-Qisa'i (from Kufah; d.189/804)
Abu Bakr `Asim (from Kufah; d.158/778)

3. Shia and Sunni are bombing each other's mosques as we speak.

4. Mathew 6:16-17

16 When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
17 But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face,
18 so that your fasting will not be obvious to men, but only to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you

5. Neither is it a mark to show Islam is better. So, what the bishop who used it as a yardstick said is wrong.

6. Imams and Alfas do likewise. But at least it is still better than telling people to go and kill infidels with bombs.

7. The case of Saudi Arabia against Yemen is a bit of the violence muslims perpetrate against each other.

PhilGreen:
Michael Hart, the author of the book *"The 100 Most Influential People"*, took him 28 years to complete.
He ranked *Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) No 1* on the list.
While he was giving a lecture in London, he was booed and interrupted.
People were complaining why he ranked Prophet Muhammed as No 1?

He said:
"The Prophet Muhammad stood in the middle of Makkah in the year 611 and said to the people who were worshipping idols: *'I am the Messenger of Allah'*.
Four people believed in him; his BEST FRIEND Abubakar, his WIFE Khadijah and two KIDS! His message was clear; stop worshipping idols and worship ONE TRUE GOD (ALLAH) and believe in what I'm telling you. How can this be wrong?

Now, even after 1400 years, the number of Muslims has gone almost 2 billion and still expanding.
*He could not have been a liar, because a lie will not last 1400 years! nor could you fool 1 billion people!*
Another thing to ponder is that even after all this time, millions of Muslims will not hesitate to sacrifice their lives over one word that would hurt their Prophet".

*"Is there even one Christian willing to do that for Jesus?"* You claim to worship but with your mouth but muslims do with their heart and entire life is about QUR'AN and Teachings/acts of Prophet Muhammed.

After that, there was DEAD SILENCE in the whole auditorium! Allahu Akbar. Truth is clear from falsehood and falsehood will perish. Please keep forwarding. Assalaamu Alaikum Warahmatullah.

kabrud:
[s][/s]


Keep running from pillar to post explaining craps.

eleojo23:
There is no need to get into this kind of discussion, it's pointless.


"Stay away from stupid and senseless arguments. These only lead to trouble" -2Tim 2:23

Olabenjamen22:


[b]Sahih International[\b]: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
[b]Pickthall[\b]: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.
[b]Yusuf Ali:[\b] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
[b]Shakir[\b]: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
[b]Muhammad Sarwar[\b]: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus.
[b]Mohsin Khan[\b]: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:
[b]Arberry:[\b] and for their saying, 'We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of God' -- yet they did not slay him, neither crucified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them. Those who are at variance concerning him surely are in doubt regarding him; they have no knowledge of him, except the following of surmise; and they slew him not of a certainty -- no indeed;

Lol, one verse With different version. Smh

alBHAGDADI:
Read my reply to the scond post above.

candy:
I hate debating religion, but I believe this bishop is not practicing true Christianity. He is a closet Muslim who is too ashamed to declare his true religion. We may have different doctrines in Christiandom, but I worship anywhere as far as it's a Christian gathering.

TerrificTim:
This is crazy!

I can't comment on an Islamic thread but Muslims can comment freely on Christian threads?

Well, fact one
A Muslim will always carry the Arabic version of the Quran. Their Imams can quote crap for them and they will nod in reply. It is so easy to brainwash them. You have to go to school for 8 years in order to read their Quran in the original language. Yet, they refuse to use the English version

Fact 2
They have too many unnecessary rules guiding how things should be done. Things like how to poo, how to have sex, how to discipline a child and even how to sleep. And if you disobey, it is a sin

anigbajumo:


That is not fact from u but junk analysis coz u lack basic knowledge about Islam.
Islam is totally different from any other religion on earth,you can't do it anyhow coz is a religion from Almighty Allah that has already completed over the years,no one can CHANGE it till eternity.

However, Islam teaches everything even some things that has not been happen but will happen in the next 50yrs,Islam has warned us how to distance ourselves from it.

Aliamdulilah,am proud of my religion

HomeOfMe:
I think religion should be personal. If people start keeping their faith private the world would be at peace.

alBHAGDADI:
They are the only people who say Jesus is not God even when Jesus proved to be countles times. READ https://www.nairaland.com/4117606/how-answer-question-where-did