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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 4:00pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
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Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by mu2sa2: 4:00pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
lamalang:Name the occultic churches so that they can be avoided. |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Horlaz(m): 4:02pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Grazy dude lol � |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by anigbajumo(m): 4:13pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Odingo1: That is d problem of most of u people, Islam has nothing to do with with terrorist. If Islam is synonymous to terrorist I expect bokoharam to be in SE (non Muslim domain) not North wea it there are many Muslim. Going by statistics,terrorist has killed more Muslim than Christian, wat s ur point bro?? |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by FemiAdeboye(m): 4:17pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Your relationship with God is more important than your religion. Note that not everyone that is called Bishop will enter the kingdom of God... |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:21pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
kabrud:quran Verse (4:157) - English Translation, are you happy now. kabrud: And that still doesn't change the fact that, there are many version of quran so stop smoking weed. kabrud: Really? Last i check it was those translation that you are using to deceive the west world, smh kabrud: Lol, you are calling your quran shits, lol, who care, i just show you some version of your quran and i don't care weather you are using it or not, fact is it exist. |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:27pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
anigbajumo: because SE is just like your house that you will just enter and go out without knowing the terrain configuration right? Go and learn more about war and terrorism tactics. If i may ask why is it that bokoharam are not attacking Muslim dominated state like, sokoto, kano, kastina, why are they attacking state that Christianity is raising? |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 4:29pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
anigbajumo:But muslims have been killing muslims right from the days of Muhammad. Remember how all his children were slain bu Abubakr |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:33pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
MDsambo: i guess you are the one high here Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. Yusuf Ali: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Shakir: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure. Muhammad Sarwar: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus. Mohsin Khan: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]: This are just some version for you, Google is your friend. |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:38pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Algorithms: little research would have save you and your gullible like from embarrassment. Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. Yusuf Ali: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Shakir: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure. Muhammad Sarwar: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus. Mohsin Khan: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]: This is just one verse from different version of your quran lol |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:41pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
shabidu: This is just one verse from different version of your quran lol Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. Yusuf Ali: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Shakir: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure. Muhammad Sarwar: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus. Mohsin Khan: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]: |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Embell: 4:42pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:May God deliver him. He doesn't even believe in the Jesus he's claiming he believe. |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Nobody: 4:42pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Caseless: Perhaps if the Islamic nations would be fair to allow freedom of worship and allow Christianity you know the population won't be up to that. Most Islamic countries prohibits Christianity but they will shout freedom of worship in another country. Have u seen any Christian dominated nation with worship or religious prohibitions |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 4:46pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
jhubril: your Allah really work hard in making you dumb, am so sure you are one of those people that like the man news yesterday, but because they prove the man wrong today you are disappointed lol, no need for you to comment since you don't read the news, so carry your frustration go your hIslamic section. |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by kabrud: 4:46pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
[s] Olabenjamen22:[/s] Q 4 v 157 Wa qawlihim innaa qatal nal maseeha 'Eesab-na-Maryama Rasoolal laahi wa maa qataloohu wa maa salaboohu wa laakin shubbiha lahum; wa innal lazeenakh talafoo fee lafee shakkim minh; maa lahum bihee min 'ilmin illat tibaa'az zann; wa maa qataloohu yaqeenaa. Posted above is Quran chapter 4 verses 157, and that is what it is anywhere all over the world from the beginning and this is how it shall be forever. Now tell me any "version" that state it differently. The Quran is memorised by several millions and no one can change it. Satans can keep their own versions of internet translations, we don't need it. Yes, all translations by Angels of darkness are nothing but shiit, quote me anywhere. 1 Like |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Nobody: 4:57pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Olabenjamen22:Please young man, understand the difference between version and translation. Arabic language is one of the most vast languages in the world. It has a large vocabulary, you can't translate Arabic to any other language word to word. What you mentioned above are different translation of the Qur'an not version and besides all the translation are passing a single message. For your proper understanding of different versions and contradictory message please see this verses from NIV & KJV New International Version 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. King James Version 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. Muslims have a single version of the Qur'an, the one you find here in Nigeria will be the same as that in China, America, Russia or anywhere in the world as long as it is the Arabic context. But translation may differ. Let's argue constructively and set aside sentiment. 1 Like |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by NOETHNICITY(m): 4:57pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:U re on ur own on this o |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 5:09pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
kabrud: Lol, we are talking about version here you are talking about language, i know that you are among those that are shouting Holy bible have many version but fail to acknowledge that there is only one version of Hebrew Bible, or have you even see KJV in Hebrew? Lol i guess you don't know that those version of your quran that are post are also in hard copy. Lol so you mean your people are using the Satan version to convert western people, wonderful. You even forget that there different version of your Arabic quran self even after your Uthman, the third Caliph (successors of Muhammad), order for the destruction of the other version. Lol, |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by kabrud: 5:18pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
[s] Olabenjamen22:[/s] Sharrap. Revised Standard Edition and King James version are different versions of the same bible but you are here quoting translations of the Quran. I repeat, quote other different versions of that verse in its Arabic form. Or have you forgotten that muslims don't recite Quran in English language. There is no where in the world where the words of Quran in Arabic is different from the ones we have here. They are all the same, quote me anywhere. Lol, instead of even stating "versionss" he is busy quoting translations which muslims don't even subscribe to. Try, harder, the Quran is one, satans can duck off with their shityy translations. 2 Likes |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 5:34pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
ItzLaw: Wow, really? So if i may ask did KJV,NIV e.t.c translate the Bible or write the Bible? Lol ItzLaw: But you fail to acknowledge that Hebrew language is more hard to translate to other language, which bring about different in translation version right, see hypocrite everywhere. ItzLaw: Ooo, Really well maybe i should help you with some Yusuf Ali:[\b] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but [b]so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Lol, your first version says that it was an illusion. Mohsin Khan[\b]: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, [b]but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]: Lol, your second version or translation or whatever you call it say it was his look alike that was killed, lol You one is true? I guess that's not contradiction right? You can continue deceiving yourself it just a matter of time the world will know your true color. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 5:37pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Caseless:Google is there for you to check out the facts na. Click the below link to see for yourself or use google. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/06/the_odd_body_religion/ Islam grew because of violence, forceful conversion and reckless breeding due to plygamy. Islam is also the fastest dying religion due to the rate of terrorist atacks - muslims killing muslims. |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Express1086: 5:38pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 5:40pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
kabrud:The original manuscripts of the Bible were written in Greek and Hebrew languages. What you have in the King James and Revised standard edition are just translations of different kinds. Quran also has different translations. |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Express1086: 5:41pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Your foolishness no b here 2 Likes |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Express1086: 5:43pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Olabenjamen22:This is a fabrication not quran |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 5:44pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Pharaoh001:I touched on that, but your failure to read the post really blinded you from seeing it. Pharaoh001: |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by kabrud: 5:51pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Muslims don't recite translation. I can go to the market today and buy different versions of the Bible, but have you ever heard of this cleric and that cleric version of the Quran. If it is the translation you are talking about, there are thousands of translations available but the Quran remains in its original form and Islamic scholars don't recite those translated versions during prayers and preachings. That is why any Islamic scholar who depends on any yeye translation is not even recognised by a 10 yr old, go and find out. 1 Like |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by alBHAGDADI: 5:56pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
kabrud:The Bible in its original form also exists. The reason why we use translated versions is simply because they are in languages we understand e.g english, yoruba, igbo, hausa etc. This is unlike quran where you have to study Arabic before you can read it. It shows that the book was meant for the arabs alone, that's why you all don't regard anyone that teaches using the translated versions. 2 Likes |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by UnicoBoas01: 5:57pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
D only reason dat make it seem like muslims r more is cos dey marry more wives n wit dat give birth to more children.Dey claim their religion of peace,how many muslims dominated country is peaceful? And in nigeria dey create d most problems,boko haram,herdmen,illiteracy,underage voting,etc |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 5:57pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
kabrud:Bros, calm down, we are not fighting here. If i may ask did KJV, ESV write the bible or translate the Bible? Thank God You acknowledge that's of the same bible, so let be help you with meaning and definition of version according to wikipedia Version. (obsolete) The act of translating, or rendering, from one language into another language. so what are you saying. kabrud:Well I will be glad to do that if you can show me KJV, RSV e.t.c in Hebrew and Greek form. Lol, what you people cannot refute is that those people you are mentioning only translate the bible not write it, lol kabrud: Really, because i have alot of Muslim friends here usually listen to quran recitation in English, so what are you saying? kabrud: Same apply to Words of Bible un Hebrew, so talk less. kabrud: Go back to school you educated illiterate. Learn the meaning of version and it application. |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by kabrud: 5:58pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Express1086:I wonder. They are trying hard to create versions of Quran within themselves to justify multiplicity of bible version. A Christian will tell you he either has king James version or Revised Standard Edition of the same Bible, but here they are, quoting English translations (which depends on the translators understanding) as "versions" of the Quran. |
Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by Olabenjamen22(m): 6:01pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
Express1086: Lol, another dummy, well maybe we should go and tell the western world that what you are using to convert them is fabrication. Smh |
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