Kog45:
I think it's my opinion and i have a very valid reason for saying it was unfair to Alampasu.

Pls what information are you talking about, a post said Trabelsi would joined Maduka and i made comment on it why Alampasu is being left.

Another post came saying Rohr will attached trainer to all the keepers and i modified my comment,so what a fuss and what Sir forgiveness got to do with it,that's my biggest headache.

Backbiting is d order of d day here

darkelf:
While we still deliberate on our GK issue, Antoine greizman just scored 4 goals in a league match for Atletico Madrid.

How I wish our strikers were banging goals like this. This is what you call WC form.

Honestly, I think we need to raise the bar higher for our attackers. It shouldn't be just enough to feature regularly.

More importantly, you need to be productive in front of goal.

You can only give what you have bro.

We don't have the kind of quality players that the likes of France or Spain have. Which is why we are not likely to win the world cup.

Kog45:
Pls try and read my original comment then you would understand better coz sometimes am always lost here,i thought we are here for football analysis and discussion.

I think am not Rohr who said inactive Alampasu is among the five keepers is considering for WC,pls be logical on this,am i Rohr who named him,so what a fuss.

It seems some don't even understand why we are here,takes things personally and always emotive and sentimental in their thinking as if we are here to fight.

Pls am very sorry to say this,have been following Eagles since 1980 so i just don't talk or saying anything for sake of it.

Ask icon4s or goldfish80, am always against Alampasu calling cos i believe so much on Akpeyi until Argentina match changed my mind.

I will not deceive you i don't rate Alampasu.

It's OK egbon, those of us that understand the point you are trying to make have taken it. Let's move on please.

I really enjoy the Discourse between Tbaba1234 and Forgiveness, but in fairness Forgiveness had good Points than Tbaba1234.

Point 1; In few Matches ain't the same with a Match. Maduka only featured in a non-competitive Game, hence that ain't a solid Point to rate him over Alampasu presently. Sir Tee can bring on more facts of Maduka's presence with the First Team to convince us.

Point 2; training with the first Team regularly indicates you are a Professional, while frequenting with the U18 (Academy) Team simply means you are still a Rookie.

Point 3; experience-wise Alampasu has more Exposure vis a vis Maduka. He has been on Loan, played at a FIFA Tournament, recognized as the best Keeper in an age-grade Tourney.

Point 4; GK dept ain't like other Depts on the Pitch. The first Choice GK of the Argies is a Bench Warmer at United. He only plays once in a while in the Cup Games. Buffon, at his Age, is still keeping Szczesny on the Bench, hence Alampasu's Situation is professionally understandable.

Finally; both Keepers - Alampasu and Maduka - can't be the first Choice for the Eagles at the Mundial, second Choice is even a Doubt, so what the Fuss?! Truth be told, Alampasu ain't mate with Maduka at the moment.

Is he inactive at his Club? No...... coz he's training (getting drilled) with the first Team regularly.

Oasis007:


I really enjoy the Discourse between Tbaba1234 and Forgiveness, but in fairness Forgiveness had good Points than Tbaba1234.

Point 1; In few Matches ain't the same with a Match. Maduka only featured in a non-competitive Game, hence that ain't a solid Point to rate him over Alampasu presently. Sir Tee can bring on more facts of Maduka's presence with the First Team to convince us.

Point 2; training with the first Team regularly indicates you are a Professional, while frequenting with the U18 (Academy) Team simply means you are still a Rookie.

Point 3; experience-wise Alampasu has more Exposure vis a vis Maduka. He has been on Loan, played at a FIFA Tournament, recognized as the best Keeper in an age-grade Tourney.

Point 4; GK dept ain't like other Depts on the Pitch. The first Choice GK of the Argies is a Bench Warmer at United. He only plays once in a while in the Cup Games. Buffon, at his Age, is still keeping Szczesny on the Bench, hence Alampasu's Situation is professionally understandable.

Finally; both Keepers - Alampasu and Maduka - can't be the first Choice for the Eagles at the Mundial, second Choice is even a Doubt, so what the Fuss?! Truth be told, Alampasu ain't mate with Maduka at the moment.

Is he inactive at his Club? No...... coz he's training (getting drilled) with the first Team regularly.

I disagree.

Both keepers are rookies.. Alampasu has done nothing professionally. He is not at an age where he can be idle. Szczesny is an experienced keeper.

If it is about training with the first team, both players train with the first team regularly. Also Maduka has had competitive caps for the B team of Fortuna.

Alampasu only professional experience was in the division 3 in portugal which is not better than the level Maduka is playing in.

There is a reason why young keepers are loaned out or at least playing reserve football. They need the practise, they need the experience.

I'd like to add. I want Alampasu to succeed as much as the next person but an inexperienced keeper at his age should not be idle. This is the time to learn the ropes.

Meaning he didn't need the help of the other 10 players and the coaching staff to play or win?

tbaba1234:


I watched a documentary on the 1986 WC.. One of the widely held beliefs was that if you had put Maradona in any team in that WC, that team would have won the tournament. He was that good.

The argentina that won the WC in 1986 was an average team without Maradona.

tbaba1234:



I disagree.

Both keepers are rookies.. Alampasu has done nothing professionally. He is not at an age where he can be idle. Szczesny is an experienced keeper.

If it is about training with the first team, both players train with the first team regularly. Also Maduka has had competitive caps for the B team of Fortuna.

Alampasu only professional experience was in the division 3 in portugal which is not better than the level Maduka is playing in.

There is a reason why young keepers are loaned out or at least playing reserve football. They need the practise, they need the experience.

You mean Maduka Okoye has done something professional because he played only 3 games for team B that is in the FOURTH tier of German league but Alampasu who had played for the FIRST TEAM in a competitive match, played in the third tier of Portuguese-liga, was on the bench in second division and currently made the bench for the first team in portuguese-liga has Done nothing professionally according to you!?

This is the biggest joke of the century.

Oga, Alampasu is a confirmed professional hence is position as the 3rd chioce goalkeeper with a team in one of the best leagues. EOD.

When Maduka Okoye reaches that level then you can come back with a point but for now he is an academy and amateur player. EOD.

somehow:
Meaning he didn't need the help of the other 10 players and the coaching staff to play or win?

not sure where in that his comment he said that

Icon79:
And this brings me back to the questions, why hasn't any of these goalkeepers been given a tryout with the Super Eagles? The way things work in Nigeria is bizarre. I heard that Ezenwa is not even the first choice goalkeeper in this team. Hence, if he isn't the best goalkeeper in his team, how in the world did he become the Super Eagles keeper?

Why haven't Alloy Agu, Salisu Yusuf, and the other home based SE coaches taken the time to monitor the national league and pick out the best two goalkeepers in NPFL? There's no doubt in my mind that Daniel Akpeyi and Ikechukwu Ezenwa are NOT the best goalkeepers in Nigeria.


O pari

Retirement tings......

darkelf:
While we still deliberate on our GK issue, Antoine greizman just scored 4 goals in a league match for Atletico Madrid.

How I wish our strikers were banging goals like this. This is what you call WC form.

Honestly, I think we need to raise the bar higher for our attackers. It shouldn't be just enough to feature regularly.

More importantly, you need to be productive in front of goal.

which attackers are you raising the bar higher for? And if they don't reach your bar, wetin go happen?

There are 32 teams going to the world cup, do we start comparing our players performance to that of players from the 32 teams? Griezmann scored four goals, na today? Do we have any attackers of Griezmann's quality or experience? No. So, what are we comparing?


Abeg, let them be playing actively where they are. How many goals did Iwobi score for Arsenal before sending two inside Argentina's net? How many games did Kelechi play before the Argentina game?

Match situations are different. Griezmann can score four today and none for another four games.

Make we dey face front and stop unnecessary comparison.

tbaba1234:



I disagree.

Both keepers are rookies.. Alampasu has done nothing professionally. He is not at an age where he can be idle. Szczesny is an experienced keeper.

If it is about training with the first team, both players train with the first team regularly. Also Maduka has had competitive caps for the B team of Fortuna.

Alampasu only professional experience was in the division 3 in portugal which is not better than the level Maduka is playing in.

There is a reason why young keepers are loaned out or at least playing reserve football. They need the practise, they need the experience.

Sir Tee...... Alampasu is no longer a Rookie, he's a Professional and an official 3rd GK for a Portuguese Primeira League Club.

The 2nd GK of the same Club has not played even for a second in the League this Season, rather he's featuring in the Cup Games.

Alampasu is the youngest amongst the Trio, he's 21 and still learning the Game. Thus being part of the first Team ain't Moinmoin and as well a huge Advantage for him over Maduka. He's training with Men, not Kids.

Perhaps Ahmed Musa should have kept honing his Skills at the Leicester U21 Team instead of his loan Move to CSKA Moscow Sir?! Or Iheanacho should have asked for playing Opportunities at the U21 Team instead of warming the Bench?!

There is no way you can compare Training Sessions of the U18 Team with the first Team Sir. Alampasu is professionally getting drilled, while Maduka is academically getting drilled.

Oasis007:


I really enjoy the Discourse between Tbaba1234 and Forgiveness, but in fairness Forgiveness had good Points than Tbaba1234.

Point 1; In few Matches ain't the same with a Match. Maduka only featured in a non-competitive Game, hence that ain't a solid Point to rate him over Alampasu presently. Sir Tee can bring on more facts of Maduka's presence with the First Team to convince us.

Point 2; training with the first Team regularly indicates you are a Professional, while frequenting with the U18 (Academy) Team simply means you are still a Rookie.

Point 3; experience-wise Alampasu has more Exposure vis a vis Maduka. He has been on Loan, played at a FIFA Tournament, recognized as the best Keeper in an age-grade Tourney.

Point 4; GK dept ain't like other Depts on the Pitch. The first Choice GK of the Argies is a Bench Warmer at United. He only plays once in a while in the Cup Games. Buffon, at his Age, is still keeping Szczesny on the Bench, hence Alampasu's Situation is professionally understandable.

Finally; both Keepers - Alampasu and Maduka - can't be the first Choice for the Eagles at the Mundial, second Choice is even a Doubt, so what the Fuss?! Truth be told, Alampasu ain't mate with Maduka at the moment.

Is he inactive at his Club? No...... coz he's training (getting drilled) with the first Team regularly.

So u17 fifa tournament is a big exposure? Alampasu and maduka those 2 keeper deserve to be out of the super eagles,expecially alampasu,Super eagles is a great team,gone are the days when inactive players will be considered for the national tram....With all due respect super eagles is not the ETHIOPIA national team,Alampasu and maduka will not go to world cup,you heard it here first.

darkelf:
While we still deliberate on our GK issue, Antoine greizman just scored 4 goals in a league match for Atletico Madrid.

How I wish our strikers were banging goals like this. This is what you call WC form.

Honestly, I think we need to raise the bar higher for our attackers. It shouldn't be just enough to feature regularly.

More importantly, you need to be productive in front of goal.

As griezman score 4 goals now make we fry beans?

He scored hatrick in the weekend followed by 4 goals making it 7 in 2 games but before then griezman had only 4 goals in laliga all season.

Our striker no need 4 goals abeg,abi u wan dey compare french payer and naija players.

andrew444:


So u17 fifa tournament is a big exposure? Alampasu and maduka those 2 keeper deserve to be out of the super eagles,expecially alampasu,Super eagles is a great team,gone are the days when inactive players will be considered for the national tram....With all due respect super eagles is not the ETHIOPIA national team,Alampasu and maduka will not go to world cup,you heard it here first.

I totally agree with you

tbaba1234:



I disagree.

Both keepers are rookies.. Alampasu has done nothing professionally. He is not at an age where he can be idle. Szczesny is an experienced keeper.

If it is about training with the first team, both players train with the first team regularly. Also Maduka has had competitive caps for the B team of Fortuna.

Alampasu only professional experience was in the division 3 in portugal which is not better than the level Maduka is playing in.

There is a reason why young keepers are loaned out or at least playing reserve football. They need the practise, they need the experience.

Alampasu professional experience has gone beyond division 3 in Portugal. He has played in FA cup version of portuguese-liga and with the Nigeria national team. GBAM.

Now, that is better than only 3 games in division 4 in Germany and Amateur league in Germany. EOD

Thanks for this post, lets discuss and argue within context. He mentioned the 5 GKs already (Rohr), so until he mentions or remove any, we should discuss these 5 for now.

TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmmm... What is going on here?

Abeg ooooo.... Make we no turn am to Alampasu vs Maduka biko....

See ehn... Me I rate Dele Alampasu very highly oooo... In fact, I still consider him slightly better than Uzoho in terms of "raw talent" but thing is, Uzoho seems to have overtaken him for now on the national front and even in club football (and he's developing at an fine rate) but Rohr still rates Alampasu too just as he rates Uzoho which is why he still talks about him in interviews when the GK issue is brought up.

In the long run and for the long term benefits of the team, I forsee a huge healthy battle between Uzoho and Alampasu for the Super Eagles no 1 shirt. Both have the height too apart from their special talents. Throw in rising talents like Akpan David udoh, Nwokolor and a few others like Okoye and one or two unknowns and we may be in for a new rise of quality gks for this new generation.


On Maduka Okoye, he is the newest kid on the block... Yet to experience life in the GWG camp so he is behind Alampasu on that front but truly he is on Rohr's radar but certainly not as one to compete for the no.1 slot ahead of Russia. Mbanu naa.....Abeg... Let us not misunderstand one another here on this GK issue. Biko I am begging una....


For the future, the likes of Alampasu, Uzoho, Okoye, Nwokolor, Akpan David Udoh, etc will provide a fantastic pool of quality goalies with one or two among them hopefully becoming world class or near world class goalies....

But right now.... For this moment... We have the world cup in sight... And Rohr's mind is not made up yet but Akpeyi and Ezenwa are in the picture for now not forgetting Ajiboye.
And from among the talented rookies we have Uzoho and Alampasu in the picture too. Rumors of Maduka Okoye still lingers.....

Anything about the goalies is with respect to Russia right now..... Plsss take note. This is why it seems Rohr will not stretch himself so much but concentrate on the chosen options like Akpeyi, Ezenwa and Uzoho.... With Alampasu and Ajiboye also in the picture.

In the official provisional list of 35 for Russia, Rohr is expected to name 5 goalies abi? (I no dey talk of list for march friendlies ooo)

So let us limit ourselves to the five Rohr has his mind on. It is from among these five Rohr will pick his final three GKs.

Who are these five?

- Daniel Akpeyi

- Ikechukwu Ezenwa

- Francis Uzoho

- Dele Ajiboye

- Dele Alampasu


Outsider is Maduka Okoye coz of the rumors which may he true... EOD.

Let us not turn it into GK A vs Gk B battle... We just want the best 3 for now from among them for the sake of the world cup. Thank you

andrew444:


So u17 fifa tournament is a big exposure? Alampasu and maduka those 2 keeper deserve to be out of the super eagles,expecially alampasu,Super eagles is a great team,gone are the days when inactive players will be considered for the national tram....With all due respect super eagles is not the ETHIOPIA national team,Alampasu and maduka will not go to world cup,you heard it here first.

Yes sir...... but if Enyeama is re-considered and eventually made the final 23-Man List - it's a good Development.

Oasis007:


I really enjoy the Discourse between Tbaba1234 and Forgiveness, but in fairness Forgiveness had good Points than Tbaba1234.

Point 1; In few Matches ain't the same with a Match. Maduka only featured in a non-competitive Game, hence that ain't a solid Point to rate him over Alampasu presently. Sir Tee can bring on more facts of Maduka's presence with the First Team to convince us.

Point 2; training with the first Team regularly indicates you are a Professional, while frequenting with the U18 (Academy) Team simply means you are still a Rookie.

Point 3; experience-wise Alampasu has more Exposure vis a vis Maduka. He has been on Loan, played at a FIFA Tournament, recognized as the best Keeper in an age-grade Tourney.

Point 4; GK dept ain't like other Depts on the Pitch. The first Choice GK of the Argies is a Bench Warmer at United. He only plays once in a while in the Cup Games. Buffon, at his Age, is still keeping Szczesny on the Bench, hence Alampasu's Situation is professionally understandable.

Finally; both Keepers - Alampasu and Maduka - can't be the first Choice for the Eagles at the Mundial, second Choice is even a Doubt, so what the Fuss?! Truth be told, Alampasu ain't mate with Maduka at the moment.

Is he inactive at his Club? No...... coz he's training (getting drilled) with the first Team regularly.

I don't know why people come here and start raising the bar whenever it suits them and quickly reduce the bar whenever it doesn't favour them.

The truth must be told. Alampasu is not in the same level with Maduka. EOD.

Em! But I don't mind Maduka Okoye gets invitation and eventually capped one day because he might come good in the future.

Na just the false assertions me no wan hear.

And for those crying, I don't care if Alampasu makes the team to the world Cup neither do I care if Maduka Okoye makes the list for the world cup.

Icon4s:


You can only give what you have bro.

We don't have the kind of quality players that the likes of France or Spain have. Which is why we are not likely to win the world cup.

But we can gatecrash like Greece and Leceister city na lol

Oasis007:


Sir Tee...... Alampasu is no longer a Rookie, he's a Professional and an official 3rd GK for a Portuguese Primeira League Club.

The 2nd GK of the same Club has not played even for a second in the League this Season, rather he's featuring in the Cup Games.

Alampasu is the youngest amongst the Trio, he's 21 and still learning the Game. Thus being part of the first Team ain't Moinmoin and as well a huge Advantage for him over Maduka. He's training with Men, not Kids.

Perhaps Ahmed Musa should have kept honing his Skills at the Leicester U21 Team instead of his loan Move to CSKA Moscow Sir?! Or Iheanacho should have asked for playing Opportunities at the U21 Team instead of warming the Bench?!

There is no way you can compare Training Sessions of the U18 Team with the first Team Sir. Alampasu is professionally getting drilled, while Maduka is academically getting drilled.

Honestly, you are getting the point and I expect a football analysts to reason on the same page.

tbaba1234:
Isaac Success pulled off after 33 minutes.. Could be an injury... Bad if it is tactical.

Isaac Success was absolutely and intensively poor last night

Certitude:

I'll like to see a combo of Mikel Agu Joel Obi. That may bd our long awaited replacement for Mikel Obi...
No one should attack me... Just chilling.

Absolutely.....!
I have been singing this song for a while now about who replaces mikel if he is to be subbed. Now some of us are suggesting we pair him with Joel Obi. Let us understand that in Nigerian football, once our midfield collapses, it usually is game over for us... We need to be working on dictating the pace of the game against opposition. Even if we cannot score so many goals, at least keep a lion share of the possession.

Mind you, with the kind of attack we have, if they will not be profligate and wasteful in front of goal at the world cup, I dont think we should stress that much.

Mikel Obi needs an able Replacement. And please nobody should mention Etebo!

I thought Alampasu kept goal against Porto?

tbaba1234:



I disagree.

Both keepers are rookies.. Alampasu has done nothing professionally. He is not at an age where he can be idle. Szczesny is an experienced keeper.

If it is about training with the first team, both players train with the first team regularly. Also Maduka has had competitive caps for the B team of Fortuna.

Alampasu only professional experience was in the division 3 in portugal which is not better than the level Maduka is playing in.

There is a reason why young keepers are loaned out or at least playing reserve football. They need the practise, they need the experience.

That's the interpretation of what he meant.

asha80:
not sure where in that his comment he said that

forgiveness:



I don't know why people come here and start raising the bar whenever it suits them and quickly reduce the bar whenever it doesn't favour them.

The truth must be told. Alampasu is not in the same level with Maduka. EOD.

Em! But I don't mind Maduka Okoye gets invitation and eventually capped one day because he might come good in the future.

Na just the false assertions me no wan hear.

And for those crying, I don't care if Alampasu makes the team to the world Cup neither do I care if Maduka Okoye makes the list for the world cup.

Uzoho, Alampasu and Maduka are certainly the future of the Super Eagles (Qatar 2022). They should be capped and getting Games after the Russia 2018.

All these goalkeeper argument sef..., unfortunately, me I can bet my balls dat IKECHUKWU EZENWA will be Nigeria’s first choice goalkeeper at the Russia 2018 World Cup. Except something miraculous happen sha

Oasis007:


Uzoho, Alampasu and Maduka are certainly the future of the Super Eagles (Qatar 2022). They should be capped and getting Games for the Eagles after the Russia 2018.

That is just it. And I will like to include the Brazilian boy too.

Mickael2:



Isaac Success was absolutely and intensively poor last night

No b say I watch the match but I kept thinking of what other possible reason could be responsible for him being pulled off early.

somehow:
That's the interpretation of what he meant.

nope it is what you think it is

Certitude:

No b say I watch the match but I kept thinking of what other possible reason could be responsible for him being pulled off early.

the first ball he got he completely goofed it, that was when I started monitoring all his touches. Out of the first 10 passes he made(without pressure) he only completed 2, TWO! He was playing against Sevilla, the 5th best team in the league and he was more concerned with trying(unsuccessfully) to beat his man when the tactics was quite clearly to play off Ideye and ok, when he managed to cross nko? Simon Moses' crosses would have been a joy to behold

Oasis007:


Uzoho, Alampasu and Maduka are certainly the future of the Super Eagles (Qatar 2022). They should be capped and getting Games after the Russia 2018.

Future future future, the future of Goalkeepers is not written that way at all. Deportivo is still going out of their way to purchase goalkeepers showing lack of faith in their feeder team, so in 5years Uzoho's best position at Deportivo might still be a second choice or third choice, and presently no team wants him, is that the future? Or is it Alampasu? Personally these guys have gone through the academies abroad, I would have adviced them to come to Africa, look for a good team, maybe even a nigerian side frequently in the CCL and pitch their tent there. I mean Enyeama started from the local scene, Aiyenugba too. If we go through the history books we would see a lot of nigerian Gks who at one point or the other were first choice Gks for feeder teams all over Europe but how many of them got as far as Enyeama?