safarigirl:
so, I am indigene of Lagos and Abuja?

Nna, no cause confusion. Takes more than spending time somewhere to be an indigene of the place. Na una wey no dey move from one place dey propagate this kain thing, e no go work for waka waka people.

The waka waka person will claim the indigeneship of his father's state but the man who has put roots down in a particular place should be allowed to enjoy indigeneship status. Ultimately I'm looking at a situation that would reduce the power of tribalism. It's a small start but in the long run it would help.
Oyibo dey ascribe nationality to foreign people wey dem just born for their country but for us to extend indigeneship to a Nigerian person wey don spend ten years for one place inside Nigeria na issue?

Mujtahida:

Seriously, I don't trust Balogun to man our CB. I don't. I'd rather go with Omeruo even plus his error proness. He looks more solid to me.

Are any of these guys better than the Yobo of past.

The fact we are considering below average players as our first choice tells us something is wrong with our football.

We just don't seem to have the quality we once use to have.

It's a case of, if the desirable is not available then the available becomes desirable.

Mujtahida:

The waka waka person will claim the indigeneship of his father's state but the man who has put roots down in a particular place should be allowed to enjoy indigeneship status. Ultimately I'm looking at a situation that would reduce the power of tribalism. It's a small start but in the long run it would help.
Oyibo dey ascribe nationality to foreign people wey dem just born for their country but for us to extend indigeneship to a Nigerian person wey don spend ten years for one place inside Nigeria na issue?

This is at the heart of the Nigerian problem irrational support for indegenes even when they are fleecing yoi dry.

Obama is effectively a Kenyan but he was President of the USA for two very popular terms.

Shockingly Ibo third generation man born in Sokoto will not win a councillor election in that state.

We have a long way to go.

Kog45:
Kai another looming war today is team tbaba1234 (Uzoho) vs team icon4s (Akpeyi),pls with enough video evidence but guess what the duo are not better than the CHAN .......

and in another corner of the ring is team Kog45 (any of the Chan goalkeepers)

Idowu: Messi’s Argentina Tough, But Eagles Can Handle Croatia, Iceland; Mikel, Ndidi Important

Super Eagles defender Brian Idowu reckoned the team is in a tough Russia 2018 World Cup group but backs the three-time African champions to scale through the first round hurdle, Completesportsnigeria.com reports.

Gernot Rohr’s men have been placed in Group D along with two-time world champions Argentina, France ’98 semi-finalists Croatia and debutants Iceland for the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia.

Idowu, who made his debut for Nigeria in the 4-2 international friendly win against Argentina in November, stated that it will be difficult to beat the Albiceleste again especially with Barcelona forward Lionel Messi in the squad.

“We got a hard group. Argentina are the top team in the group and they have Lionel Messi who is difficult to play against. He is probably from another planet,” Idowu who plays for Russian club Amkar Perm told m.sovsport.ru .

“But we can beat Croatia and Iceland. It is a powerful group but we can qualify to the next stage.”

The left-back also mentioned the three players he believes will be the key men for the Super Eagles in Russia.

“Obi Mikel is the leader. He won everything with Chelsea and there is also Kelechi Iheanacho and Wilfred Ndidi with Leicester City.”

The Super Eagles will open their campaign at the Mundial against Croatia on June 16 at the Kaliningrad Stadium.



https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/idowu-messis-argentina-tough-eagles-can-handle-croatia-iceland-mikel-ndidi-important/

komekn:


This is at the heart of the Nigerian problem irrational support for indegenes even when they are fleecing yoi dry.

Obama is effectively a Kenyan but he was President of the USA for two very popular terms.

Shockingly Ibo third generation man born in Sokoto will not win a councillor election in that state.

We have a long way to go.

D moment we scrap STATE OF ORIGIN FROM OUR COUNTRY, our problem is half solved

Elyte89 Baba mi, ur man is back again after a short lay off, he is back with a bang but this time around, he is busy posting news from the archives.

Cc MetalJigsaw onye nke m, I'm loyal sir.

komekn:


Are any of these guys better than the Yobo of past.

The fact we are considering below average players as our first choice tells us something is wrong with our football.

We just don't seem to have the quality we once use to have.

It's a case of, if the desirable is not available then the available becomes desirable.

It's very regressive kind of thinking. And yet we'd attack the white man for charities we cannot even extend to ourselves.
Safarigirl look at this scenario: an Igede man is born and brought up in Ondo State and has lived there for 17years.He has very little link with Benue State except the nominal fact that he's from Benue State. Now it's admission time. He wants to apply to Adekunle Ajasin University, Ondo State owned institutions yet they don't want to admit him cos he's not an indigene. He'd have to back to Benue or any Federal University within his catchment area if he is to go to university. Why all the suffering when we can make things easier for ourselves?

Let's change the policy first for the man who has put roots down in a place. After that we have gained that foothold we can proceed to make laws for the waka waka man. Incremental changes. You get?

ChrisKels:
Elyte89 Baba mi, ur man is back again after a short lay off, he is back with a bang but this time around, he is busy posting news from the archives.

LCc MetalJigsaw onye nke m, I'm loyal sir.

Yea boss chriskels,I can sight boss MetalJigsaw..he never disappoints,baba go soon drop one goof

Mujtahida:

The waka waka person will claim the indigeneship of his father's state but the man who has put roots down in a particular place should be allowed to enjoy indigeneship status. Ultimately I'm looking at a situation that would reduce the power of tribalism. It's a small start but in the long run it would help.
Oyibo dey ascribe nationality to foreign people wey dem just born for their country but for us to extend indigeneship to a Nigerian person wey don spend ten years for one place inside Nigeria na issue?

put roots in which father's place?

Okay, where will someone like me put roots? The father's place I have little to no memory of? We are citizens of nowhere, we belong to everybody and we belong to nobody


Nigeria isn't just made up of states like oyibos, we are made up of ethnic groups as well, that is what causes tribalism, it is not the state of origin. So, indigeneship would mean, if my parents are Igbo and I grew up in Kano, I will be Hausa.

It is easy to talk about how the oyibos do it, forgetting that the oyibos do not have hal the amount of ethnicities we have as a nation. We have the most ethnic groups in all of Africa, so, this idea may sound great to the ears, but the implementation is so much more technical than you would wish.


Nigeria is complicated, too complicated to be modeled after any nation

elyte89:





D moment we scrap STATE OF ORIGIN FROM OUR COUNTRY, our problem is half solved

Abeg make una go politics section go dey discuss this, me wey mumsy be Enugu, okosisi my father be Abia, I cum grow up partly in Enugu and Abia nko? I no get state of Origin ni. Lol I love my Abia (Aba) and 042(obodo oyibo) people.

goldfish80:


I met Solomon a few years back, he was based in Budapest, Hungary at the time. I feel he could be be in Hungary still or moved back to Germany where his wife hails from.

oh, that's nice

MetalJigsaw:
Messi, Aguero, Caballero In Argentina Squad Vs Italy, Spain; Dybala, Tevez Out

Barcelona forward Lionel Messi and Manchester City striker Sergio Aguero top the list of 22 foreign-based stars invited by Nigeria’s Russia 2018 World Cup grpup opponents Argentina coach Jorge Sampaoli for next month’s international friendly fixtures against Italy and Spain, reports Completesportsnigeria.com.

The two-time world champions will face Italy at the Etihad Stadium, home of English Premier League leaders Manchester City on March 23rd and then take on Spain four days later at Atletico Madrid’s Wanda Metropolitan.

Sampaoli also handed invitation to Manchester United and Everton defenders Marcos Rojo and Marcos Funes Mori who last featured for the Albiceleste in March last year due to long-term injuries.

Chelsea second choice goalkeeper Willy Caballero also got the nod for the games following some impressive showings in the Carabao Cup and Emirates FA Cup.

Other regular names in the squad are Paris Saint-Germain forward Angel Di Maria, Manchester United goalkeeper Sergio Romero, Nicolas Otamendi, Javier Mascherano, Lucas Biglia and Ever Banega.

There was however no place in the squad for Paulo Dybala who recently returned from injury for his club Juventus, Inter Milan’s Mauro Icardi and Carlos Tevez who rejoined Boca Juniors.

Messi missed last November’s 4-2 friendly defeat to the Super Eagles in Russia as he was rested by Sampaoli.
Argentina are drawn in Group D with Nigeria, Iceland and Croatia for the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia.

THE FULL SQUAD
Goalkeepers: Sergio Romero, Willy Caballero, Nahuel Guzman

Defenders: Marcos Rojo, Funes Mori, Federico Fazio, Marcos Acuna, Eduardo Salvio, Nicolas Otamendi, Nicolas Tagilifiaco, Gabriel Mercado

Midfielders: Javier Mascherano, Leandro Paredes, Manuel Lanzini, Giovanni Lo Celso, Lucas Biglia, Ever Banega, Angel Di Maria
Attackers: Gonzalo Higuain, Lionel Messi, Sergio Aguero, Diego Perotti



https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/messi-arguero-caballero-argentina-squad-vs-italy-spain-dybala-tevez/

sorry wrong statement

tbaba1234:




Solomon Okoronkwo plays for BFC Dynamo in the fourth tier of Germany

I guess he's in semiretirement mode already

elyte89:





D moment we scrap STATE OF ORIGIN FROM OUR COUNTRY, our problem is half solved

I am for scraping it but the people that would resist it ehn, dem too plenty. It's better we change or modify it by expanding the criteria for claiming state of origin.

Mujtahida:

It's very regressive kind of thinking. And yet we'd attack the white man for charities we cannot even extend to ourselves.
Safarigirl look at this scenario: an Igede man is born and brought up in Ondo State and has lived there for 17years.He has very little link with Benue State except the nominal fact that he's from Benue State. Now it's admission time. He wants to apply to Adekunle Ajasin University, Ondo State owned institutions yet they don't want to admit him cos he's not an indigene. He'd have to back to Benue or any Federal University within his catchment area if he is to go to university. Why all the suffering when we can make things easier for ourselves?

Let's change the policy first for the man who has put roots down in a place. After that we have gained that foothold we can proceed to make laws for the waka waka man. Incremental changes. You get?

that scenario is diffetent from what I have in mind. That has to do with quota system and federal character. Those things should have no place in Nigeria, people should not be admitted based on where they are from, America has affirmative action, but they don't limit you to state of origin/residence. You as a Florida native, can school in any other state.


That is different from indigebdship IMO, any Nigerian should be allowed to school anywhere in Nigeria, irrespective of state of origin. University of Abuja practices that, it is equal representation for all 36 states plus FCT, it is the most diverse school in Nigeria, if I say so, and all states should practice that.


But, I look at this from a cultural angle. An Igede man who has grown up in Yoruba land, for instance, what will his traditional beliefs be like? Which traditional wedding or funeral will he do? According to whose beliefs will he live? Those he learns from people in his environment or what his parents teach him?

I am looking at this from a cultural perspective, you guys are looking at it from the surface level, the contemporary aspect.

safarigirl:
put roots in which father's place?

Okay, where will someone like me put roots? The father's place I have little to no memory of? We are citizens of nowhere, we belong to everybody and we belong to nobody


Nigeria isn't just made up of states like oyibos, we are made up of ethnic groups as well, that is what causes tribalism, it is not the state of origin. So, indigeneship would mean, if my parents are Igbo and I grew up in Kano, I will be Hausa.

It is easy to talk about how the oyibos do it, forgetting that the oyibos do not have hal the amount of ethnicities we have as a nation. We have the most ethnic groups in all of Africa, so, this idea may sound great to the ears, but the implementation is so much more technical than you would wish.


Nigeria is complicated, too complicated to be modeled after any nation

The bolded shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the point. Indigene doesn't mean aborigine. According to the example, You'd need not be Hausa. You are Igbo, a Nigerian from Kano State in Nigeria. Igbo of Kano State, Yoruba of Enugu State, Hausa of osun state will break the stranglehold of tribalism
Let's rest it. Them go say we dey pollute the thread with politics.

This latest talk on citizenship should be moved to politics section. Here's for super eagles. I don't want to waste my time reading about what the politicians would never implement.

asha80:


sorry wrong statement

Atlanta 96 kwa? Another MetalJigsaw spotted. Elyte89 bookmark this moniker for future references.

Bros, Willy first played for Argentina in 2001 and it was in an U20 tourney and his first and only summer Olympics was in 2004



Sorry didn't know u modified

Mujtahida:

The bolded shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the point. Indigene doesn't mean aborigine. According to the example, You'd need not be Hausa. You are Igbo, a Nigerian from Kano State in Nigeria. Igbo of Kano State, Yoruba of Enugu State, Hausa of osun state will break the stranglehold of tribalism
Let's rest it. Them go say we dey pollute the thread with politics.

do not confuse Nigerians more than we are already confused

People who still think anyone from the North is Hausa and all Easterners are Igbo, you wan come complicate their lives?

ChrisKels:


Atlanta 96 kwa? Another MetalJigsaw spotted. Elyte89 bookmark this moniker for future references.

Bros, Willy first played for Argentina in 2001 and it was in an U20 tourney and his first and only summer Olympics was in 2004

OK Boss

Either will an an Hausa man who was born and raise in Anambra win a councilor ship post there. we have no identity as a unit for now so it will continue.

Until we have one major factor that unites us more than our ethnic affiliation, this won't change.

America have one unifying factor which is to be great and remain a world power as long as possible and that alone succeeds who you're as a person as long as you are fit to make this factor a reality.

komekn:


This is at the heart of the Nigerian problem irrational support for indegenes even when they are fleecing yoi dry.

Obama is effectively a Kenyan but he was President of the USA for two very popular terms.

Shockingly Ibo third generation man born in Sokoto will not win a councillor election in that state.

We have a long way to go.

safarigirl:
do not confuse Nigerians more than we are already confused

People who still think anyone from the North is Hausa and all Easterners are Igbo, you wan come complicate their lives

If you know how the bolded dey pain me ehn even supposedly educated people are so ignorant of the ethnic configuration of this country.

mank1234:
This latest talk on citizenship should be moved to politics section. Here's for super eagles. I don't want to waste my time reading about what the politicians would never implement.

Sometimes we drift. We have discussed education here. It's just an aside. But your point is noted.

ChrisKels:


Atlanta 96 kwa? Another MetalJigsaw spotted. Elyte89 bookmark this moniker for future references.

Bros, Willy first played for Argentina in 2001 and it was in an U20 tourney and his first and only summer Olympics was in 2004



Sorry didn't know u modified

bros na why i modify oo ..i jones no be small ...the argies goalie in atlanta 96 was actually pablo cavallero

Etebo will win freekicks for us.
Etebo will outmuscle Messi for us.
Etebo what else can I say.



Vote Etebo for Super Eagles World Cup list

safarigirl:
do not confuse Nigerians more than we are already confused

People who still think anyone from the North is Hausa and all Easterners are Igbo, you wan come complicate their lives?

Lol when I was a jambite, I so much loved UNN and ESUT due to their respective teaching hospitals but I was stunned the day I took my postume in ESUT, after some hot slaps from the unfortunate men on Campus parading themselves as hard men, we made our way into the exam hall, before shading one ans on my ORM, I already lost hope of schooling in ESUT. Do u know why? We filled a form so tey u go write ur local govt in enugu plus ur village name sef. As an Abian the thing weakened me.

If Etebor is to make the list to the WC, which position is he likely to perform best at and who's to be sacrificed for him?

Because it seems Amadu and the NFF indirectly wants him in Russia based on the fact that he gets to play against major players from our group opponents and he's also doing well so far.

Its even connected to our sports and football, we have read here from some members saying some certain players made it to the squad because they are bla bla bla ethnic group so this discussion is not out of place.

Mujtahida:

Sometimes we drift. We have discussed education here. It's just an aside. But your point is noted.

Talk of the town presently.

terzurum5:
Etebo will win freekicks for us.
Etebo will outmuscle Messi for us.
Etebo what else can I say.



Vote Etebo for Super Eagles World Cup list

asha80:
bros na why i modify oo ..i jones no be small ...the argies goalie in atlanta 96 was actually pablo cavallero

U r a real Gee my Bros. I was even expecting u to lash out

ChrisKels:


Lol when I was a jambite, I so much loved UNN and ESUT due to teaching hospitals but I was stunned the day I took my postume in ESUT, after some hot slaps from the unfortunate men on Campus parading themselves as hard men, we made our way into the exam hall, before shading one ans on my ORM, I already lost hope of schooling in ESUT. Do u know why? We filled a form so tey u go write ur local govt in enugu plus ur village name sef. As an Abian the thing weakened me.

ESUT is a State University, so, I can understand why they would give priority to their indigenes, but such actions should not be condoned for Federal schools