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Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by shadeyinka(m): 8:56pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Newboss:You still don't get it. A human being has 46 chromosomes Human sperms and eggs each have 23 chromosomes When the sperm and egg fuse, the resulting foetus has 46 chromosomes.(complete human beings). You want to force a definition of who is alive. Being alive has nothing to do with the sun. A human who have never seen the sun is still a human being. Can we say a baby girl is not yet human because she doesn't have breasts? That seems to be your argument: that a foetus is still developing therefore its not yet human! People who have done abortions before will like to play it down. However, if you have seen abortions done your heart will prick you. Some foetus refuse to die after pulling them out and sometimes, their head is crushed or they are just thrown into the bin where dehydration and lack of oxygen supply finally kill them. Pls, watch a few videos on abortion and it will done on you that its not anything short of murder. 2 Likes |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by dingbang(m): 8:58pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Kholiwe:15 likes and 3 shares for this post.. I am sure they are all women who have killed their unborn children together with this one.. Mchew. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by areascatter2020: 9:19pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Your head dey there, you too sabi |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by kwessiStewie2(m): 9:20pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Kholiwe:stupid feminist 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by goodnewscliff(m): 9:21pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
IjeleNwa:if u get 5 masters degree ni nko Abortion is bad, biblically nd putting lives at risk becos of less dan 2 minutes without condom enjoyment aint worth d shit!!!! Dem dy hear |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by wirinet(m): 9:21pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
bloodofthelamb: Why is it impossible to get it into your head that, that whether others who you have absolutely no connection with, decides to engage in pre or post marital sex is non of your fuckiñg business. The lady did not borrow your toto to do it. Not every one in the world give a fvck about spirit of Christ, in fact there are more non Christians in the world than Christians. Learn to live your life and allow others live theirs. |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by cyrilamx(m): 9:23pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Focus on the messenger and not the messanger or isn't that the reigning slogan in naija? My dear everyone is guilty of hypocrisy or phariseism owing our adamic ancestry. So hypocrisy doesn't stop the truth from being TRUTH. NPComplete: 1 Like |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by Newboss(m): 9:25pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
shadeyinka:You're missing the point. There's a point at which a foetus becomes alive. At the very earliest stages, it's not alive! It's scientifically proven! 2 Likes |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by wirinet(m): 9:27pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
1Sharon:Do not mind the moral cape crusaders who intend to impose their religion on others by force. Abortion is not only safe in the west but also very safe in Nigeria. It is close to 100% safety if done in a proper hospital by qualified gynaecologist and if done early enough (within the first 2 months). 2 Likes |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by YoungDaNaval(m): 9:29pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Makschinchin:How is pornography a sin? |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by wirinet(m): 9:31pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
goodnewscliff: That is your personal and religious opinion. Lots of others hold a different view. When I was operating a bar, I knew runs babes that do D& C in the morning and still go to night club in the evening to solicit for guys. 1 Like |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by makaveli902: 9:35pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Kholiwe: How old are you? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by cyrilamx(m): 9:37pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
These are the proponents of the culture of death which Abortion is. Abortion is evil cos it deprives an innocent soul the right to life. Why will u indulge in the act of giving life and turn around to terminate such life? Well the state might give legal backing to such nonsense, but it remains a moral evil in a sex saturated society. I don't pity any woman who die from deliberate Abortion. shadeyinka: |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by cyrilamx(m): 9:44pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Why indulging in the act that bring them to life in the first place? I can see a lot of proponents of the culture of death. The society urges the young to have unrestrained sex instead of self control and in turn advise same youths to kill the fruits of their lust. What a degenerate world. I know the evil of Abortion cos I have been an accomplice. It weighs the soul down if u still have conscience. 1Sharon: 1 Like |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by Kholiwe(f): 9:52pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Women are not slaves. Women’s wombs are not subjugated when pregnant, and women are not slaves to the fetus within them. This intensely personal decision, to bear a child, is upheld in many a biblical story 1 Like |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by wirinet(m): 9:55pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
cyrilamx: Which culture of death are you talking about? Abortion is simply the termination of the process of birthing a baby. There is natural abortion and forced abortion. Natural abortion is when an egg becomes fertilised by a sperm but is unable to implant itself in the womb. The pregnancy becomes aborted without the woman ever knowing she was pregant, she might just notice her period coming very late, believe me this is very common among women. There is also miscarriage which is also natural abortion. Natural abortion is more prevalent than forced abortion. Are you going to say natural abortion is evil also? Having sex does not equate to wanting to produce life, else we all (including hypocritical christians) would have sex less than 10 times in their entire life time. Most of the time people have sex for pleasure without wanting to produce a baby. I wonder why this is impossible for you guys to understand. Why do you have an evil mindset and wish death on women that perform abortion? Maybe you should start stoning women that is caught engaging in fornication and adultery . 4 Likes |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by 1Sharon(f): 10:02pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
cyrilamx: |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by Kholiwe(f): 10:03pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
"If God hates abortion, why does He allow miscarriages?" Isn't life sacred to him......religious fanatics 4 Likes |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:11pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
wirinet: Ok noted! |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by shadeyinka(m): 10:14pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Newboss:It isn't scientifically proven Because even each cells of the body are alive. Do you know what gangrene is. Those are dead cells. Elementary Biology teach us about the characteristics of living things (MR NIGER D) Does a foetus Move? Does a foetus Respirate? Does it take Nutrition? Does it respond to Stimuli? Does it grow/Growing? Does foetus Excrete? Does a foetus have reproductive cells/organs? If the answer to the questions above is yes, a foetus is a living being? Don't try to justify the crime of murder on a defenceless soul |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by shadeyinka(m): 10:19pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Kholiwe:Miscarriages usually occur when the foetus is deformed and dies. Mind you every living thing dies at one point or another when an organ of the body fails. However, murder is when a human being forces another human being to die without a mature convent! Why is sex with a minor referred to as rape even if the minor requests for sex from an adult? Abortion is pure Murder! Did the foetus ask to be killed? Even if it asks, it would still be murder. |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by Nobody: 10:19pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Kholiwe:you can't still make a point. Don't stress it. Black is black,white is white 1 Like |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by shadeyinka(m): 10:23pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
cyrilamx:I agree with you. Abortion is a rape of a human life. It is murder. A person determining that a child must not fulfil its destiny is a murderer. 1 Like |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by Newboss(m): 10:31pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
shadeyinka:No, they don't! There are stages of development. At the initial stage, they don't do the things you listed there. They're just normal fertilized eggs going through mitosis You should just Google when does a foetus become alive. It's scientifically proven. I'm just trying to open your eyes because you have let your religious and sentimental views take over the way you see things. If all the cells are alive, as you said, then the sperms are alive, as I said before, so you're killing living souls when your sperm or egg is released without pregnancy, since they are as alive as normal living souls. That sounds really stupid Please just Google it. There are enough research works on that online. 1 Like |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by Kholiwe(f): 10:53pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
shadeyinka: Abortion is Not Murder Abortion is definitely a form of killing, but it is not murder. Not every form of killing qualifies as murder (for instance, soldiers killed in combat are not considered to have been murdered). An aborted fetus could not live on its own outside the uterus; it therefore has not every been fully alive and cannot be murdered, 1 Like |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by dragon2(m): 11:11pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Abortion is the intentional termination of a human life,hence murder. Period. Edit.Unjustifiable,intentional termination of defenceless human life. 1 Like |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by shadeyinka(m): 5:54am On Mar 05, 2018 |
Kholiwe:Suppose a grown man was given oxygen gas because he couldn't breath on his own and his enemy came and disconnected the oxygen hose from him. Would that not qualify as Murder in any law court? Abortionists are enemies of the foetus who selfish reasons decided that a foetus MUST not live. Murder is when an enemy decided that a person must not continue to live for their own selfish gain. In war, the only moral ground for killing is self defence. That is, I don't shoot first, the enemy will shoot to kill me. But in the case of 99% of abortions, what has the baby foetus done? Nothing! Someone just decides that the foetus life should end because "she is not yet ready to be a mother, etc". It is murder. All murders have a motive and certainly, abortion does! Abortion is murder! Murder is intentionally truncating another life for selfish reasons Abortionis intentionally truncating another life for selfish reasons 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by shadeyinka(m): 6:20am On Mar 05, 2018 |
Newboss:A foetus becomes alive when it shows that characteristics of living things QED. Any other explanations is just attempt to justify murder. Murder is when a human being deprives another human life his right to life for his personal gain. A human being continues in stages of development and growth until the end of puberty. Now, since a child dosnt YET have a breast, does that prove that the child is not yet human because she doesnt have mamary glands? No! A foetus is just in a state of human development just like a child is still in a stage of normal development. If humans do not selfishly terminate the life of a foetus, it could become the President of a country. Just as If humans do not selfishly terminate the life of a child, it could become the President of a country It is murder! Murder is intentionally truncating another human life for selfish reasons Abortionis intentionally truncating another human life for selfish reasons You keep on evading the definition of murder. Once you do, it becomes simple. If you say a foetus cannot speak nor protest, how about a newborn baby? Do you even have an idea of how abortion is done? Let no one deceive you. Abortion is Murder. Note: When you let a human egg follicle be, it matures and dies within 48-36 hours after ovulation. When you let a human sperm be, it matures and dies within 24 hours after ejaculation. When you let a human foetus be, it matures and grow up to become an adult within 18 years. Abortion is selfishly terminating a human right to life! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by wirinet(m): 6:36am On Mar 05, 2018 |
You are just attempting to use emotional blackmail and guilt to impose your religious views on others. That is the standard modus operandi of Christianity, you impose guilt where there is non, ie Adam supposed sin is hereditary, so you are already guilty before you are born. The Jews or was it the Romans killed Jesus, so all is guilty of killing Jesus. shadeyinka:Stupid analogy. If the grown man needs oxygen from my lungs to survive and I decide I do not want to continue to donate oxygen from my lungs anymore because I do not care for the man, how is that murder? How does that make me an enemy of the man? There is no jurisdiction on the planet that equate aborting a baby to murdering the baby. Even in strict Catholic countries where abortion is a crime, a woman can only be charged for performing illegal abortion and never for murdering a baby. (Which is yet to acquire legal status)
What selfish reason are you talking about? You that is selfless, why not go to motherless babies home and adopt abandoned children. How many suffering unwanted children have you selflessly catered for? You need to publish your own dictionary so you can give a new definition of murder.
Senseless irrational rant.
You already answered yourself. The woman does not want a baby? QED! Are you going to put a gun on her head and force her to be a mother? Oh! I forgot, you don't want her to engage in "sinful" sex. Well it is her body, she can pretty do whatever she wants with her body.
You can cry and shout all you want, you can even strap a bomb and blow up yourself in an abortion clinic, it will not change abortion to murder and it will not stop women from having consensual sex with whosoever they please. 3 Likes |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by TGM2015: 6:57am On Mar 05, 2018 |
Kholiwe:... But God strikes a man dead because he refuses to release his sperm (that was predetermined to fertilised the woman's egg) inside a woman... Life starts even before implantation hence the science and medical professionals count the pregnancy date from the first day of woman's monthly circle and not the date of implantation/fertilisation. Thank you IjeleNwa 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by shadeyinka(m): 7:31am On Mar 05, 2018 |
wirinet: I am sure you haven't heard of "Iron Lungs" before! You seem not to be able to defend or oppose a view intelligently. Not a single proof, not a single definition, nothing ! Except that you feel and believe that abortion is not murder. I will rub it in again. Abortion is MURDER! State your points. You insinuate that I am using religious sentiments: unfortunately, I have not even used the word Bible, Quran, God, Jesus, Mohammed, Sin etc. I have only opposed abortion from the following views 1. Scientifically: Characteristics of Living Beings 2. Legal: Fundermental human Rights 3. Definition of Murder 4. Logics: through analogies, scenarios and examples You want to make yourself look civil and humane while like an ostrich wishing away the fact that you support murder. Tell me on what excuse? If you want to have unprotected sex, why not use one of the several pregnancy preventive methods? What does a man who jumps out of a moving plane expect: angels to come out and carry him? What do you expect from unprotected sex? Prevention is better than cure they say! If you want to have sex and not have babies, use contraception. Why must a man/woman in the making pay for my own recklessness? You think it makes sense? |
Re: Abortion: Don't Turn Murderer For A Man, Hand Over The Baby To Him Let Him Do It by maryannasemota: 8:23am On Mar 05, 2018 |
Kholiwe: Funny. A feotus is life. Its living. Its murder when you take a life. |
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