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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:09pm On Mar 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


An AMR is not a RM..

An AMR covers both a winger and an inside forward.

Musa position is definitely an AMR..

Sir T...... AMR is the same as RM, and it's clearly different from RW/RWF. The below Link gonna help further Sir.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midfielder#Defensive_midfielder
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:09pm On Mar 04, 2018
AMR: Attacking Right Midfield

This covers

1. Right Winger (RW): Tries to beat his man and deliver crosses. Usually restricted to the wings.

2. Inside Forward (IF): Starts from the wing but drifts inside. Usually this player is playing in the position of his weaker foot so he drifts in.

3. Advanced Playmaker: This player starts from the right but drops into holes between the defence and midfield of the opposition to make things happen.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:10pm On Mar 04, 2018
safarigirl:
oga, face your front. No dey support anybody for this kain thing angry

grin

I'm ain't supporting ma, only correcting! We are so here to learn I guess?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:10pm On Mar 04, 2018
Oasis007:


Sir T...... AMR is the same as RM, and it's clearly different from RW/RWF. The below Link gonna help further Sir.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midfielder#Defensive_midfielder




Oga, you did not read your link properly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:12pm On Mar 04, 2018
You didnt exactly understand Tbaba's point or explanations.

A RW is a Typical winger operating from the right...

An AMR is an advanced kind of attacking player who can play as both winger and inside forward.

This is why I also liken an AMR to RW/RM.... Tu comprends?


MetalJigsaw:
A right winger typically flanks the striker and not the midfield... While a right midfielder operates from the midfield to choke/ occupy it and support the attack. Simple!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:12pm On Mar 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


An AMR is not a RM..

An AMR covers both a winger and an inside forward.

Musa position is definitely an AMR..
therefore you are insinuating about three Attacking Midfielders in one formation?

Yahaya played flanking the striker which appropritely makes him a right winger. He was NOT placed in the midfield. Check again
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:13pm On Mar 04, 2018
tbaba1234:
AMR: Attacking Right Midfield

This covers

1. Right Winger (RW): Tries to beat his man and deliver crosses. Usually restricted to the wings.

2. Inside Forward (IF): Starts from the wing but drifts inside. Usually this player is playing in the position of his weaker foot so he drifts in.

3. Advanced Playmaker: This player starts from the right but drops into holes between the defence and midfield of the opposition to make things happen.

I get your Points clearly, but the Formation determines the Position Sir. Yahaya is played as a Forward in the Lineup - 4 - 3 - 3, thus he can't be referred as a Midfielder in any away, rather as a winger or wing-forward.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:15pm On Mar 04, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
therefore you are insinuating about three Attacking Midfielders in one formation?

Yahaya played flanking the striker which appropritely makes him a right winger. He was placed in the midfield. Check again

Maybe we need to do a tactics class here because i can't believe i am having this conversation.

Yes.. Attacking midfielders can play from the left or right. A winger is also an attacking midfielder.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:15pm On Mar 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
You didnt exactly understand Tbaba's point or explanations.

A RW is a Typical winger operating from the right...

An AMR is an advanced kind of attacking player who can play as both winger and inside forward.

This is why I also liken an AMR to RW/RM.... Tu comprends?


Right attacking midfielder is what you're wrongly calling the right winger. There can never be three attacking midfielders in one formation bro

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:16pm On Mar 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


Oga, you did not read your link properly

There is a pictorial Representation of Positions on the Pitch. I would have copied it and posted it here, but it won't be more enlightened than sharing the whole Story.

The Image clearly distinguishes a Midfielder from an Attacker/Forward.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:16pm On Mar 04, 2018
Ehhhh.... Sorry, you didnt quote him or label your post as "Tbaba only" grin

You walked into the discussion seeing that Tbaba, Metallic man and me were already far gone into it... So I had to address your unlabeled post from my end bro. Simple.


Oasis007:


grin

Well..... my Post is meant for Tbaba1234, not you bro.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:17pm On Mar 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Why quoting just me to tell me this? You see he was the one who first called me ignorant saying "I am saying what I don't know"... Or didn't you? Yet I still indulge his obvious display of absolute ignorance. Is that not civil enough? smiley


I noticed that two monikers on this thread were expecting a goof soon from MetalJigsaw and crazily enough, he has just proved them right again. I think he should not be so quick to just quote anyone in discussions. He should think it through first... Just saying. Anyway, that is by the way.


I would have quoted him also....I felt there was no need to...being that I already informed you....
I see you as a very enlightened somebody...though you rarely take nonsense.
anyway that's by the way side...
trust you've been good?
and you enjoyed yr weekend as well....?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:17pm On Mar 04, 2018
safarigirl:
oga, face your front. No dey support anybody for this kain thing angry
Allow him to do justice to what he thinks is right... Which is actually
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:17pm On Mar 04, 2018
Oasis007:


I get your Points clearly, but the Formation determines the Position Sir. Yahaya is played as a Forward in the Lineup - 4 - 3 - 3, thus he can't be referred as a Midfielder in any away, rather as a winger or wing-forward.

A winger or a wing forward is an AMR.

Unless he is playing in a three man attack.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:19pm On Mar 04, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Allow him to do justice to what he thinks is right... Which is actually
because he dey support you abi? tongue
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:19pm On Mar 04, 2018
Looollll..... Actually there can be... And they have been.... And they will always be.... As seen in 4-2-3-1 executed by some attacking teams.

AMR-AMC-AML with a striker up top and two defensive minded midfielders behind them as the double pivot.. (CDMs)


MetalJigsaw:
Right attacking midfielder is what you're wrongly calling the right winger. There can never be three attacking midfielders in one formation bro

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:19pm On Mar 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Ehhhh.... Sorry, you didnt quote him or label your post as "Tbaba only" grin

You walked into the discussion seeing that Tbaba, Metallic man and me were already far gone into it... So I had to address your unlabeled post from my end bro. Simple.



grin

I had no issue with your Post coz you are right with your Submission as regard AMR, but Sir T is wrong based on the Formation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:19pm On Mar 04, 2018
I knew U will do a better job at this.
Mujtahida:

Even though India was partitioned and Pakistan was formed, India still has more than TWO THOUSAND ETHNIC GROUPS. As regards religion, India is also highly diversified because although Hinduism is one of the major religions, the Hindu pantheon contains more 330 million gods and goddesses with everyone having the liberty to choose which god or goddess to worship and serve. In fact one can choose different gods and goddesses for different aspects of one's life. Officially India has nine religions - Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Zoroastrianism, Jainism, Christianity, Judaism, Sikhism and Baha'i faith. In Nigeria just perhaps 500 ethnic groups, three official religions abi two sef Yet India is working at least better than Nigeria. Nigeria is not as complex as India.

Indonesia has 300 ethnic groups. Yet it works just fine. Very fine sef.

Our problem is not tribalism per se. It's a certain kind of retrogressive mentality cloaking itself as tribalism.
I just had to chip this in
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:20pm On Mar 04, 2018
Oasis007:


There is a pictorial Representation of Positions on the Pitch. I would have copied it and posted it here, but it won't be more enlightened than sharing the whole Story.

The Image clearly distinguishes a Midfielder from an Attacker/Forward.

In that formation, I doubt Musa is a striker so he is either a winger or an inside forward which is still defined as an AMR.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:22pm On Mar 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
So I guess your saying that there is nothing like AMR or AML in football is being very knowledgeable abi? Loooollll.... You are very funny...


Show me anyinstant formation/lineup by any team that ever consists of three attacking midfielders in one formation bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:22pm On Mar 04, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Some people love to argue in ignorance.
please stop the ignorance talk....I have learnt from him same way I learnt from you tonight
no man knows it all....
sometimes we argue to learn...we all hold different views reason because we all don't think in same direction...afterall no man has the monopoly of wisdom...

just pass your point...I believe someone somewhere will pick something from it...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:24pm On Mar 04, 2018
I think he is right here. In a 4-3-3, the wingers are referred to as LW and RW.
Doesn’t make much of a deference though, but the formation determines the nomenclature.

AMR stands for attacking midfielder right
AML attacking midfielder left.
e.g 4-4-2

tbaba1234:


A winger or a wing forward is an AMR.

Unless he is playing in a three man attack.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:26pm On Mar 04, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Didn't I also mention that Yahaya was placed in the RW role after the poster aforementioned him as a RMR which doesn't really exist?

When you quoted my first post on this, I only mentioned Yahaya being given the chance to develop his game more upfront in the attacking third and not being sent back to RB or RWB.

My issue with your comment is this bolded you said when you quoted me first....

You still insist that AMR doesnt exist.... And I just showed you Whoscored.com evidence...

Bia nwokem.... Take ya time oooo...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lorazepam(f): 11:26pm On Mar 04, 2018
Humility017:

please stop the ignorance talk....I have learnt from him same way I learnt from you tonight
no man knows it all....
sometimes we argue to learn...we all hold different views reason because we all don't think in same direction...afterall no man has the monopoly of wisdom...

just pass your point...I believe someone somewhere will pick something from it...


Wise comment sir.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:28pm On Mar 04, 2018
Joebie:
I think he is right here. In a 4-3-3, the wingers are referred to as LW and RW.
Doesn’t make much of a deference though, but the formation determines the nomenclature.

AMR stands for attacking midfielder right
AML attacking midfielder left.
e.g 4-4-2


Wingers fall into that AMR/AML name..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:28pm On Mar 04, 2018
safarigirl:
no be small voice mail.
Na me carry my mumu self wan help pesin wey dey in need. Bros claimed he had an urgent job he needed to travel fa he needed TP, since then, he just dey post me.

No be say I even get money before, but because I have been in urgent need of money, I thought to help someone.....e no go happen again sha. Learnt my lesson, there is no shred of integrity in this country

you did no wrong lending him money....
just that he never worth such act of kindness....
keep being good and let no one change...you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:29pm On Mar 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


A winger or a wing forward is an AMR.

Unless he is playing in a three man attack.

grin

...... and based on the Formation he is! Also except the Formation reads 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 AMR ain't gonna exist, coz it's not the same with a Winger or Wing-forward Sir.

Midfield Shapes vary especially for a 4 - 3 - 3 Formation, it can be flat, pyramid/Triangle or inverted pyramid/Triangle; hence in this Circumstance AMR is non-existing Sir.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:32pm On Mar 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:




When you quoted my first post on this, I only mentioned Yahaya being given the chance to develop his game more upfront in the attacking third and not being sent back to RB or RWB.

My issue with your comment is this bolded you said when you quoted me first....

You still insist that AMR doesnt exist.... And I just showed you Whoscored.com evidence...

Bia nwokem.... Take ya time oooo...
Show me any formation by any team that depicts three AMs bro. I'm waiting
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:35pm On Mar 04, 2018
Like I said there is no much of a difference because of the dynamic nature of those positions. But if u want to be exact, what I stated earlier applies.
tbaba1234:


Wingers fall into that AMR/AML name..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:36pm On Mar 04, 2018
Oasis007:


grin

...... and based on the Formation he is! Also except the Formation reads 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 AMR ain't gonna exist, coz it's not the same with a Winger or Wing-forward Sir.

Midfield Shapes vary especially for a 4 - 3 - 3 Formation, it can be flat, pyramid or inverted pyramid; hence in this Circumstance AMR is non-existing Sir.

What you will have in a flat forward line is not necessarily a winger. I doubt Musa is playing a striker role.

Maybe it is the way the formation is presented.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Shukusheka(m): 11:37pm On Mar 04, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Show me any formation by any team that depicts three AMs bro. I'm waiting
a 4-2-3-1 formation has 3 attacking midfielders. For example under Mourinho Chelsea deployed this formation Hazard was playing at AMR, Willian at AML and Oscar at AMC.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:37pm On Mar 04, 2018
Tagging AMR as a Winger or Wing-forward is like tagging CAM/AM as a SS.

EOD.

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