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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:38pm On Mar 04, 2018
There are myriads of examples and I will have to dig up some articles for the best rep of my point... But this is a start...


Let's look at Sevilla in he Europa league final against Liverpool in 2016......




Play like Sevilla – Europa League – Final

Today I am gonna show you Sevilla FC tactic for Europa League final game and you will be surprised to see how good is this tactic for your Top Eleven team.

Sevilla FC won Europa League few days ago for the 3rd time in row and this is something very huge in the football world especially when you think that Sevilla isn’t a money team.
This year Europa League raised even over Champions League with some very beautiful & dramatic games like the game of the year so far between Liverpool and Dortmund.

As I said at the start, Sevilla tactic can be a perfect one for your Top Eleven teams because it fits perfectly with the current game engine of the game and players performances .

Is very clearly that strikers in the game of Top Eleven are not a powerful source of goals anymore and in exchange the game is focusing now more on wingers and midfielders which is the same thing that happened with Sevilla against Liverpool in Europa League final game.

Emery U. the coach of Sevilla used a 4-2-3-1 tactic and he focused more on the offensive midfielders which actually managed to win the game by the end.



This can be a very strong formation in-game. Is covering very well the defensive part because you will use 4 defenders and also the offensive part because is focusing more on offensive midfielders which are also the main source of top scorers in-game.

In defense you will need 4 defenders displayed in a classic mode like DL – DC – DC – DR, then 2 central midfielders MC – MC, 3 offensive midfielders AML – AMC – AMR and only 1 ST.



Sevilla FC formation for Top Eleven 2016

DL-DC-DC-DR
—-MC-MC—-
AML-AMC-AMR
——-ST——-



Sevilla FC didn’t forced to much in the first half of the game and they decided to let Liverpool to play more offensive but in the second half was a completely new Sevilla, much powerful, with a high pressing and a lot of determination.

Source: http://www.topeleven.info/play-like-sevilla-europa-league/


Start with this.... More dey come... wink








MetalJigsaw:
Show me anyinstant formation/lineup by any team that ever consists of three attacking midfielders in one formation bro

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:39pm On Mar 04, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Show me any formation by any team that depicts three AMs bro. I'm waiting

AM
AMR
AML

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:40pm On Mar 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


What you will have in a flat forward line is not necessarily a winger. I doubt Musa is playing a striker role.

Maybe it is the way the formation is presented.

Flat 3-Man Forward - does consist of LW/LWF, ST and RW/RWF, hence if the Lineup is to go by; then Musa is played as a RW/RWF.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:43pm On Mar 04, 2018
Joebie:
Like I said there is no much of a difference because of the dynamic nature of those positions. But if u want to be exact, what I stated earlier applies.

Alright, i agree.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:46pm On Mar 04, 2018
Oasis007:


Flat 3-Man Forward - does consist of LW/LWF, ST and RW/RWF, hence if the Lineup is to go by; then Musa is played as a RW/RWF.

I do not want to keep dragging this. your points are noted
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:46pm On Mar 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


AM
AMR
AML

You're showing nine players on the field. And the. names of the players aren't clear. Man. city or which team and the lineup. I prefare it like that that thank you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:46pm On Mar 04, 2018
In a 4-3-3, the players behind the RW and LW are RM/MR and LM/ML respectively.
AMR and AML are the wingers in a 4-4-2 for example. The formation determines how U call them. Practically, they are pretty much the same
Oasis007:


Sir T...... AMR is the same as RM, and it's clearly different from RW/RWF. The below Link gonna help further Sir.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midfielder#Defensive_midfielder



Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:47pm On Mar 04, 2018
Even as a left full back, Awaziem was the best player on the pitch for his team in his first match after a long lay off. And 3rd overall best player for both teams, behind Tauvin and Payet . It ended Marseille 1 vs 1 Nantes

Modified ; Thanks Nerdy, it was a typo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:48pm On Mar 04, 2018
ChrisKels:
Even as a left full back, Awaziem was the best player on the pitch for his club in his first match after a long lay off. And 2nd overall best player for both teams. It ended Marseille 1 vs 1 Nantes
This guy has greatly improved.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:49pm On Mar 04, 2018
ChrisKels:
Even as a left full back, Awaziem was the best player on the pitch for his club in his first match after a long lay off. And 2nd overall best player for both teams. It ended Marseille 1 vs 1 Nantes
thanks for this update grin

Awaziem shirt sure for Russia

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:52pm On Mar 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


AM
AMR
AML

boss I'm talking about a real team with the lineup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Shukusheka(m): 11:53pm On Mar 04, 2018
Joebie:
I think he is right here. In a 4-3-3, the wingers are referred to as LW and RW.
Doesn’t make much of a deference though, but the formation determines the nomenclature.

AMR stands for attacking midfielder right
AML attacking midfielder left.
e.g 4-4-2

In a 4-3-3 wingers are referred to as wing-forwards (WF) and not just LW.
It is a formation that determines what position a player plays is called.

In a 4-4-2, wingers are simply called (RW/LW) their jobs basically is add to width to the team as well as assisting the fullbacks whenever the team is under pressure e.g Giggs & Beckham at Man Utd under Ferguson

In a 4-2-3-1 for, wingers are called (AMR/AML) and that's because they play further forward than a traditional RW/LW since they have two DM covering up for them to assist the fullbacks e.g Willian & Hazard under Mourinho at Chelsea or Mata & Mhikitarian under Mourinho at Man Utd.

In a 4-3-3 formation, wingers are called (RWF/LWF) and that's because they play more forward than an AML/AMR. They are forwards but they attack from the wings e.g Neymar, CR7, Mbappe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:57pm On Mar 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
There are myriads of examples and I will have to dig up some articles for the best rep of my point... But this is a start...


Let's look at Sevilla in he Europa league final against Liverpool in 2016......




Play like Sevilla – Europa League – Final

Today I am gonna show you Sevilla FC tactic for Europa League final game and you will be surprised to see how good is this tactic for your Top Eleven team.

Sevilla FC won Europa League few days ago for the 3rd time in row and this is something very huge in the football world especially when you think that Sevilla isn’t a money team.
This year Europa League raised even over Champions League with some very beautiful & dramatic games like the game of the year so far between Liverpool and Dortmund.

As I said at the start, Sevilla tactic can be a perfect one for your Top Eleven teams because it fits perfectly with the current game engine of the game and players performances .

Is very clearly that strikers in the game of Top Eleven are not a powerful source of goals anymore and in exchange the game is focusing now more on wingers and midfielders which is the same thing that happened with Sevilla against Liverpool in Europa League final game.

Emery U. the coach of Sevilla used a 4-2-3-1 tactic and he focused more on the offensive midfielders which actually managed to win the game by the end.



This can be a very strong formation in-game. Is covering very well the defensive part because you will use 4 defenders and also the offensive part because is focusing more on offensive midfielders which are also the main source of top scorers in-game.

In defense you will need 4 defenders displayed in a classic mode like DL – DC – DC – DR, then 2 central midfielders MC – MC, 3 offensive midfielders AML – AMC – AMR and only 1 ST.



Sevilla FC formation for Top Eleven 2016

DL-DC-DC-DR
—-MC-MC—-
AML-AMC-AMR
——-ST——-




Sevilla FC didn’t forced to much in the first half of the game and they decided to let Liverpool to play more offensive but in the second half was a completely new Sevilla, much powerful, with a high pressing and a lot of determination.

Source: http://www.topeleven.info/play-like-sevilla-europa-league/


Start with this.... More dey come... wink









Point of correction:

RB---CB---CB---LB

DM---DM

RM---AM---LM


CF

(4-2-3-1)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:03am On Mar 05, 2018
safarigirl:
thanks for this update grin

Awaziem shirt sure for Russia

Sure ke when forgiveness is saying his place is up for grabs? Ilori and Iorfa would bench him grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:05am On Mar 05, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
This guy has greatly improved.

Yes bro and we are happy for that.

BTW, elyte89 and I bn dey wave u since, u just do eye like say u no c us. Nawa oo. Hope u had a nice weekend?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:07am On Mar 05, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
boss I'm talking about a real team with the lineup

But I just gave you One article on an actual team's use of the 4-2-3-1 with the use of AMC, AML, and AMR... Okay let me give you another.... A recent game from this weekend in the French ligue 1....

Game was between Montpellier and Lyon. Ended 1-1.

I will show you four graphic pics taken....

1. Showing the 4-2-3-1 formation and the line-up of the attacking midfielders (AMs) behind the lone striker.

2. Showing the AM player on the left... The AML (see how Whoscored labelled his position)

3. Showing the AM player on the right... The AMR (see how Whoscored labelled his position)

4. Showing the AM player in/thru the centre.... The AMC (see again how Whoscored labelled his position)


Still not convinced that we can have three attacking midfielders on the field at same time? Well now you know that in a 4-2-3-1, you can surely have that. And yes.... AMR, AML and AMC exist in world football terminologies. Adios.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:11am On Mar 05, 2018
ChrisKels:


Sure ke when forgiveness is saying his place is up for grabs? Ilori and Iorfa would bench him grin
who be those ones?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:16am On Mar 05, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Point of correction:

RB---CB---CB---LB

DM---DM

RM---AM---LM


CF

(4-2-3-1)



You just wanna ignore THE SIMPLE FACT AND KNOWN TRUTH that AMC, AML, and AMR are actual roles in the world of football.... Loolll..
Okay naa... Suit yourself... I believe my last post have done enough justice. I can go deeper into more actual team formations showing this but no need, your mind is made up.

I don try......

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:17am On Mar 05, 2018
Another Instance ( Nigeria's most operated WCQ formation and lineups):

Shehu (RB)...Ekong (CB)...Balogun (CB)...Echiejile(LB)

Ndidi (DM)...Onazi (DM)

Moses (RM)...Mikel (AM)... S.Moses (LM)

Ighalo (CF)


Right back, Left Back, Central Back, Defensive Midfielder, Attacking Midfielder, Left Midfielder, Right Midfielder and Central Forward or Central strker.
Simple!

The use of three letters is never appropriate. Check wikipedia

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:21am On Mar 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:



You just wanna ignore THE SIMPLE FACT AND KNOWN TRUTH that AMC, AML, and AMR are actual roles in the world of football.... Loolll..
Okay naa... Suit yourself... I believe my last post have done enough justice. I can go deeper into more actual team formations showing this but no need, your mind is made up.

I don try......




Even the way you describe the positions with a whooping three letters says alot about their complexity and falsification.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:22am On Mar 05, 2018
Think about the name. It's not just a positional tag for naming sake.

Wing forwards simply means they are forwards and they play at the wings. it is a collective name for both Right wingers and left wingers.
for example, 3-4-3, 4-3-3 and any formation that has three forwards only, the players at the wings are wing forwards (RW and LW)

In a 4-4-2 there are 4 defenders, 4 midfielders, and 2 forwards.. Again, it is named based on the formation. Hence we have AMR and AML . However, in the real sense they are RW and LW as well, as that position has always been dynamic.. wingers fall back to join the midfield and also bomb forward to launch attack or cross the ball. So AMR and RW, AML and LW are used interchangeably many times.

A 4-2-3-1 is pretty much a 4-5-1. The same thing applies as in 4-4-2 above, but we have two DMs (pivot), and an attacker withdrawn to the midfield playing as an AM. Practically, the AMR and AML are still wingers.

Modified.
Let me add that the midfielders in a 3 man midfield are, DM, MR and ML

RWF is the same as RW
LWF is the same as LW


Shukusheka:
In a 4-3-3 wingers are referred to as wing-forwards (WF) and not just LW.
It is a formation that determines what position a player plays is called.

In a 4-4-2, wingers are simply called (RW/LW) their jobs basically is add width to the team as well as assisting the fullbacks whenever the team was under pressure e.g Giggs & Beckham at Man Utd under Ferguson

In a 4-2-3-1 for, wingers are called (AMR/AML) and that's because they play further forward than a traditional RW/LW since they have two DM covering up for them to assist the fullbacks e.g Willian & Hazard under Mourinho at Chelsea or Mata & Mhikitarian under Mourinho at Man Utd.

In a 4-3-3 formation, wingers are called (RWF/LWF) and that's because they play more forward than an AML/AMR. They are forwards but they attack from the wings e.g Neymar, CR7, Mbappe.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:25am On Mar 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:


But I just have you One article on an actual team's use of the 4-2-3-1 with the use of AMC, AML, and AMR... Okay let me give you another.... A recent game from this weekend in the French ligue 1....

Game was between Montpellier and Lyon. Ended 1-1.

I will show you four graphic pics taken....

1. Showing the 4-2-3-1 formation and the line-up of the attacking midfielders (AMs) behind the lone striker.

2. Showing the AM player on the left... The AML (see how Whoscored labelled his position)

3. Showing the AM player on the right... The AMR (see how Whoscored labelled his position)

4. Showing the AM player in/thru the centre.... The AMC (see again how Whoscored labelled his position)


Still not convinced that we can have three attacking midfielders on the field at same time? Well now you know that in a 4-2-3-1, you can surely have that. And yes.... AMR, AML and AMC exist in world football terminologies. Adios.
Sorry, Whoscored can not be the point of reference for its just a soccer website. Use Wikipedia
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:25am On Mar 05, 2018
Wikipedia is not a credible source

MetalJigsaw:
Sorry, Whoscored can not be the point of reference for its just a soccer website. Use Wikipedia
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:32am On Mar 05, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Sorry, Whoscored can not be the point of reference for its just a soccer website. Use Wikipedia

Wikipedia is not a credible source for anything.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:33am On Mar 05, 2018
So proud of this lad. Stood up well against the likes of Thauvin Florian and made a game high seven tackles. Rohr was right to put great faith and trust in this kid.

And uhmmm Sir Chris... Awaziem finished as third best overall on both sides (ofcos best for Nantes like you already said). Payet was second overall behind his team mate Thauvin.


ChrisKels:
Even as a left full back, Awaziem was the best player on the pitch for his club in his first match after a long lay off. And 2nd overall best player for both teams. It ended Marseille 1 vs 1 Nantes

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:34am On Mar 05, 2018
Awaziem played Left back today and was outstanding. Best player for his team. One more player that can play left back.

Why are we still carrying Elderson?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:34am On Mar 05, 2018
Joebie:
Wikipedia is not a credible source

of course it is. Check Wikipedia and you see no three letters and no such, thing as CAM or AMR
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:35am On Mar 05, 2018
smh

I hope you learn something new today.

Modified
While you can find accurate stuff in wikipedia, it is never regarded as credible for any serious research. I'd rather look at a reputable statistical site when it comes to serious football stuff.

MetalJigsaw:
of course it is. Check Wikipedia and you see no three letters and no such, thing as CAM or AMR
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 12:38am On Mar 05, 2018
tbaba1234:
Awaziem played Left back today and was outstanding. Best player for his team. One more player that can play left back.

Why are we still carrying Elderson?
I think he was played as a left back primarily to mark thauvin..more of a man marker job
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:39am On Mar 05, 2018
Joebie:
smh

I hope you learn something new today.

Why not find out the truth by first typing "AMR football Wikipedia" and see if it will reveal anything like that except AM( attacking midfielder)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:41am On Mar 05, 2018
asha80:
I think he was played as a left back primarily to mark thauvin..more of a man marker job

He appears to be a very good man-marker..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:41am On Mar 05, 2018
Joebie:
smh

I hope you learn something new today.

Modified
While you can find accurate stuff in wikipedia, it is never regarded as credible for any serious research. I'd rather look at a reputable statistical site when it comes to serious football stuff.

no talk too much

@metaljigsaw, wikipedia is run by everyday people. Anybody can go there and update whatever or post whatever they wish, so, it is not a credible site for a lot of people.

In fact, Supernerd can go to the site and update whatever you saw there to reflect his argument and you lose your reference. It is that easy

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