Winners72:
That is to tell you that doctrines like that of deeper life is the best and the world is beginning to know it now.

point of corrections Deepr life has no doctrine but Bible doctrine

bukatyne:
I understand the 'abomination' committed by wearing trousers....

I don't understand the 'abomination' of praying.

Were they riled that

1. She Wore trousers?.... Against their customs

2. Prayed in a gathering of men? ..... She was nominated

3. Praying in trousers?

I will say the woman knew the customs and should have abided or moved on.

That is the point.

It's not by force to attend a meeting whose rules one does not like.

But what tradition are they saying ? Did Eboes wear trousers in the past before colonization?
No history of Eboe men wearing trousers
How can they say trousers are for men?

Very wrong to such an event. their still limit on how woman wear trousers.

kabrud:
Hmmm. Coming from the apostles of civilisation. Watch how their shildren tear them into tiny pieces few minutes from now.

Where are all those red cap hypocrites, thatt would have been wailing and shouting marginalization if it was done to them by another ethnic group?

Probz:
Trousers fit the anatomy of females more than men.

VERY WRONG
THE HOLY BIBLE CONDEMNED SUCH
DEUTERONOMY 22:5

The lady is very stupid for wearing such to gathering of elders.
The sanction will serve as deterant to others.
Ohaneze gathering is not club nor campus no playground

Sunexy:
I don't see what's wrong with the trouser but since it's tradition, let them observe the tradition everywhere no matter where you are

EVERYTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT COS THE HOLY BIBLE CONDEMNS SUCH
DEUTERONOMY 22:5

Mynd44:


And who came up with such doctrines?

A person's dressing is part of her freedom of expression/speech and you have freedom of speech as part of your human right

VERY WRONG...
THAT'S BIBLICAL DOCTRINE... THE HOLY BIBLE CONDEMNS SUCH ACT OF WOMEN PUTTING ON MEN'S GARMENT AND VICE VERSA

NavalObi37:

EVERYTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT COS THE HOLY BIBLE CONDEMNS SUCH
DEUTERONOMY 22:5

Lol..is the meeting a Bible ground??

The lady is very stupid for wearing such to gathering of elders.
The sanction will serve as deterant to others.
Ohaneze is not club nor campus no playground

NavalObi37:


VERY WRONG
THE HOLY BIBLE CONDEMNED SUCH
DEUTERONOMY 22:5

Why are Nigerians so bloody stupid?

Were men wearing trousers in bible times? Were they around before colonialism? Ask yourself Use questions or keep quoting the bible out of turn.

Mynd44:


And who came up with such doctrines?

A person's dressing is part of her freedom of expression/speech and you have freedom of speech as part of your human right

Groups and associations also have bylaws and dress codes. if you belong to such cultural groups that prohibits a particular attire for a particular gender, you are expected to fall in line or withdraw membership.

She is supposed to know the dress code to such meetings. In my place men are not supposed to wear trousers to such meetings, you must tie wrapper as a man or woman. Its a cultural meeting not a corporate meeting.

NavalObi37:


VERY WRONG...
THAT'S BIBLICAL DOCTRINE... THE HOLY BIBLE CONDEMNS SUCH ACT OF WOMEN PUTTING ON MEN'S GARMENT AND VICE VERSA

Stop being stewpid. The Biblical Jews did not wear trousers - men or women. Nowhere has it ever been said that trousers are clothes for men, except among Nigerian cretins. Even Arab, Persian and Turkish women have won trousers for centuries and you're hear quoting nonsense from the Bible.

Obi1kenobi:


Stop being stewpid. The Biblical Jews did not wear trousers - men or women. Nowhere has it ever been said that trousers are clothes for men, except among Nigerian cretins. Even Arab, Persian and Turkish women have won trousers for centuries and you're hear quoting nonsense from the Bible.

Nigeria as a country’s brainwashed. I weep for this nation.

Probz:


Nigeria as a country’s brainwashed. I weep for this nation.

The annoying thing is even otherwise enlightened people are so incredibly obtuse about things like this. I remember when I was in a UNN fellowship and there was a discussion among students about dress code and this girl, feeling like Virgin Mary, stood up and was rambling about how no true virtuous woman could wear trousers and how sinful those that do are and blah....blah...blah. This profound ignorance was coming from the mouth of a girl I knew us a a bright, hardworking scholar who later had a first class degree in one of the Biological Sciences courses. Just can't use their damn brains. Keep daftly quoting Deuteronomy, yet, they cannot appreciate context and can't show you where in this Deuteronomy it was spelt out that trousers are men's clothes.

crackhaus:

That is the point.

It's not by force to attend a meeting whose rules one does not like.

I honestly don't understand how I will carry my two left legs from my house on a hot Sunday to a meeting I am not ready to abide to their rules. And the next day is Monday?

They even told her to pray when she knew that women don't pray in the gathering of men/ elderly men and she stood up to pray? It did not occur to her that they were sarcastic and telling her that her dressing was inappropriate?

When they saw she wasn't discerning and told her to stop the prayers, she actually waited till everyone walked out before she stopped?

The woman is not wise.

Mynd44:

What if the trousers are made of ankara, does that make it any less an abonination?

Lets ask these questions and see that a lot of this traditions are just used to target women and pull them down

How does not wearing trousers to a traditional gathering pull a woman down?

If she is so concerned and must wear trousers, why doesn't she come with a change of cloth or ignore the meetings altogether.

I am all for women's rights however, let's not add stupidity to it.

A woman who can't obey simple rules might not be fit to be allowed 'freedom' in the first place

bukatyne:


How does not wearing trousers to a traditional gathering pull a woman down?

If she is so concerned and must wear trousers, why doesn't she come with a change of cloth or ignore the meetings altogether.

I am all for women's rights however, let's not add stupidity to it.

A woman who can't obey simple rules might not be fit to be allowed 'freedom' in the first place

Because it is sexist stupidity, imposing standards on women that are not applicable to men in order to put women in their place.

If you're banning women from wearing trousers, there has to be a practical reason. No man should arrogate to himself the right to tell women what to wear. That you are a woman who happily submits herself to be dominated by insecure, male idiots doesn't mean other self-respecting women should concede to such.

Obi1kenobi:


Because it is sexist stupidity, imposing standards on women that are not applicable to men in order to put women in their place.

If you're banning women from wearing trousers, there has to be a practical reason. No man should arrogate to himself the right to tell women what to wear. That you are a woman who happily submits herself to be dominated by insecure, male idiots doesn't mean other self-respecting women should concede to such.

Hi hon, is it ok for igbo men to wear shimi underneath their wrapper

More to the point is it common

0monnak0da:
But what tradition are they saying ? Did Eboes wear trousers in the past before colonization?
No history of Eboe men wearing trousers
How can they say trousers are for men?

See this yeriba man. SMH.

ewa26:


Hi hon, is it ok for igbo men to wear shimi underneath their wrapper

I don't know what Igbo men wear underneath their wrapper, and it's none of my business. Why would I care what my fellow man is wearing as his undies? So when we have meetings, people should start inspecting the underwear of attendees? Do you have any point at all?
Why not ban the Igbo men entirely from wearing wrappers. Afterall, na woman cloth be dat, abi?

Obi1kenobi:


I don't know what Igbo men wear underneath their wrapper, and it's none of my business. Why would I care what my fellow man is wearing as his undies? So when we have meetings, people should start inspecting the underwear of attendees? Do you have any point at all?
Why not ban the Igbo men entirely from wearing wrappers. Afterall, na woman cloth be dat, abi?

Ok how common is it for ibo men to wear wrapper More so under the age of 40

ewa26:


Ok how common is it for ibo men to wear wrapper More so under the age of 40

What does that have to do with anything? My father wore wrappers around the house when I was growing up, though he prefers shorts these days. My grandfather wore wrappers. Infact, the fact that people have started discarding wrappers doesn't favour your argument, because what it means is that you have adopted a more Westernized culture to be more "modern". Igbo men and many South-South and Middle Belt groups have been wearing wrappers for generations, but have incorporated more trousers to their modern attire. But it is women wearing trousers that is your business, abi?

arinze198:
An Igbo woman, Mrs. Esther Nweke who went to Ohanaeze Ndigbo Social Cultural meeting wearing a trouser, got what she did not bargain after she was nominated to say prayer at the meeting in Lagos.

The traditional rulers, chiefs and other leaders present at the meeting sighted her with her trouser and immediately ordered her to stop the prayer and pronounced that she had committed an abomination.

P.M.EXPRESS reports that her offence was she came to the meeting on trousers and was said to have been erroneously nominated for the prayer.

Read http://pmexpressng.com/ohanaeze-ndigbo-sanction-woman-trousers/

However, Mrs. Nweke insisted that since she had been nominated to say the closing prayer she would go on. The leaders walked out of the venue of the meeting insisting that they will not partake in such prayer which will attract curses on them.

This caused serious amusement and embarrassment to other women who were present at the meeting.
Even the host, the traditional ruler of Ndigbo in Alimosho LGA, Eze Lawrence Eze did not participate in the prayer and had to turn his back on Mrs. Nweke in order not to be part of the prayer.

P.M.EXPRESS asked why the woman was treated in such a manner. Some of the leaders insisted that Mrs. Nweke had committed an abomination by wearing trousers to the Ohanaeze meeting, talk less of praying in the meeting which they claimed was against the culture and tradition in Igbo land.

It was gathered that her appearance may attract further sanctions to serve as deterrent to other women who might try such in the further.

Eze Lawrence Eze summoned the meeting of the Igbo leaders to proffer solutions to the lingering crises in Alimosho LGA CDAs over the years.
It was gathered that the Igbo people in the LG were divided as such every unit had to form their owner Ohanaeze group; to the extent that the monarch found it difficult knowing who to deal with among the factions.

At the meeting the leaders agreed to unite, pursue a common goal and resolved to set up a committee to look into the crises and resolve them finally.
It was at the meeting that Mrs. Nweke was nominated to say the closing prayer that another problem came up and the women at the meeting were not happy over the ugly incident.

However, it was gathered that in any Igbo social gathering that married women were not supposed to wear trousers to attend such meetings. The women were expected to tie their wrappers signifying that they were married and responsible, but it turned out that such rules were not complied with in the cities.

Where is the Womans Pinshure u dis idiot

BabaRamota1980:


...the leaders are wrong. This meeting was not held in Igboland. The tradition of Igboland stops in Igboland.

Wen did it become a Yoruba problem

Obi1kenobi:


What does that have to do with anything? My father wore wrappers around the house when I was growing up, though he prefers shorts these days. My grandfather wore wrappers. Infact, the fact that people have started discarding wrappers doesn't favour your argument, because what it means is that you have adopted a more Westernized culture to be more "modern". Igbo men and many South-South and Middle Belt groups have been wearing wrappers for generations, but have incorporated more trousers to their modern attire. But it is women wearing trousers that is your business, abi?

No hon I agree that men should wear wrappers and there should not be one rule for men one rule for women, am on you side hun

erm did your dad or grandpa ever wear shimi under d wrapper?

Obi1kenobi:


Because it is sexist stupidity, imposing standards on women that are not applicable to men in order to put women in their place.

If you're banning women from wearing trousers, there has to be a practical reason. No man should arrogate to himself the right to tell women what to wear. That you are a woman who happily submits herself to be dominated by insecure, male idiots doesn't mean other self-respecting women should concede to such.

You're missing the point. Yes it is sexist to want to place standards on what women should wear.

So your next action to show anger at sexism is to go to a traditional meeting (which no one forced you to attend) wearing something that is against the sexist dress code for same meeting?
This is how enlightened people go about fighting sexism eh?

Clap for yourself.

bukatyne:


I honestly don't understand how I will carry my two left legs from my house on a hot Sunday to a meeting I am not ready to abide to their rules. And the next day is Monday?

They even told her to pray when she knew that women don't pray in the gathering of men/ elderly men and she stood up to pray? It did not occur to her that they were sarcastic and telling her that her dressing was inappropriate?

When they saw she wasn't discerning and told her to stop the prayers, she actually waited till everyone walked out before she stopped?

The woman is not wise.

She was just being troublesome, nothing more.

If sometime in the future, she calls for a referendum to look into dress codes and what should be allowed for women, no one is going to take her serious or even give her a listening ear...certainly not after this stunt.

So I don't see what she has succeeded in doing at the end of the day.

Obi1kenobi:


Because it is sexist stupidity, imposing standards on women that are not applicable to men in order to put women in their place.

If you're banning women from wearing trousers, there has to be a practical reason. No man should arrogate to himself the right to tell women what to wear. That you are a woman who happily submits herself to be dominated by insecure, male idiots doesn't mean other self-respecting women should concede to such.

First you nothing about me and people who do know that I will NOT show up wherever I find the rules obnoxious.

An association by whoever gave a rule that women shouldn't wear trousers and a woman decides to wear trousers there?

She is so unwise.