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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Keballl: 1:14pm On Mar 05, 2018
valarinz:


You've gone on and on won't me for almost a page, why is it so hard to properly disgrace me na Oga

Show the whole world what a bunch of accidented junk I sell or do you intend to win the argument on name calling alone?

Appears the word accidented has another definition with you. Cosplay has shown you one. Others who have shame have tucked their tails reading silently at the background.
Why are you adamant in the face of simple facts ? undecided

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by valarinz: 1:15pm On Mar 05, 2018
Cosplay:


I know what you’re trying to do, unfortunately for you, but can’t you see I’m trying to save you the embarrassment?

Now you're trying to save me the embarrassment after calling me a fraud?
Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by chosengocap: 1:16pm On Mar 05, 2018
Explorers:
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autojosh won't show us this....
Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by G007(m): 1:20pm On Mar 05, 2018
Cosplay:


I have the VINs for your vehicles sir.

But I’ve already disgraced you once.

You’d like a second round sir?

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by GabrielYulaw(m): 1:21pm On Mar 05, 2018
shocked shocked How did we get so depraved that we cheerfully cheat and deceive each other?
Thanks Cosplay and co. Thanks for all your efforts.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Cosplay: 1:24pm On Mar 05, 2018
There. Note the encircled vin of the accidented vehicle you claimed was accident free.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by tomtos88(m): 1:32pm On Mar 05, 2018
Ipfreely:
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Assembly time.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by valarinz: 1:32pm On Mar 05, 2018
Cosplay:
There. Note the encircled vin of the accidented vehicle you claimed was accident free.

Lol,even the mileage corresponds with what I displayed and for all the noise you've been making since about being too smart and busting a fraud dealer, all you could find is a missing bumper.

Thanks for helping my biz, already got new clients now, seems most Nigerians don't mind missing bumpers as much as u do.

Tnx for your time

Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Gentlevin: 1:36pm On Mar 05, 2018
hmmmm this thread is really an eye opener........thanks to all the guys that opened the nyansh of these greedy sellers...


IS IT HARD TO INFORM THE BUYER THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLE?.....
WHY LIE ABOUT IT......NONSENSE.........UNAM IKOT.....

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Explorers(m): 1:37pm On Mar 05, 2018
chronique:
I just want to lend my voice to this. We've had this discussion in the past and it's good we address it again. I'm going to speak solely from my personal point of view.

When I got into car business, I was initially into strictly clean title cars. Unfortunately, the prices were usually on the high side and I know the no of times I was called a thief on nl here cos of the huge difference in prices. As much as I tried to make a lot of people understand, it fell on deaf ears. Most of those cars stayed on ground for a long while before being sold,and some were sold at below landing cost. Most of my partners got discouraged and refused to ship in vehicles anymore. One thing I can say from experience here,is that the percentage of people who are ready to, and can afford clean title cars on this site,are not even up to 4% of the numerous potential clients we have here.

Most potential buyers always look for cars at ridiculous prices. You see people whose budget can only afford a car of 1.5m,coming to price a car of 3m. As much as 90% of the cars that are shipped in,are bought on auction and on auction, prices are not fixed. The era where dealers were making huge profits on cars,has gone. There are too many cars on in Lagos now and to the best of my knowledge, most dealers I know, sell to break even. If you find that some cars are quite expensive, it could be that the landing cost,are quite high.
I know that there are dealers who import terribly accidented vehicles and I've had cause to quarrel with some of them.
Sometimes, I also post cars with salvage history and that's cos I have a lot of friends and dealers who push their cars to me,to help them sell. I do not have issues providing vin on request. But let us be clear on something. The fact that a car has a mild damage and is classified as salvage, doesn't make it automatically cheap at the auction. At the end of the day,we're not perfect in business but can only strive to attain it.

Sir, i appreciate your comment, so reasonable.

Am not a car dealer, but i know clean title cars are expensive.

Some clean title 2010 camry on carsforsale.com can go as high as $7,000 - $10,000(that's almost 2.5m - 3m in naira without shipping and clearing), by the time you take it to your stand, you've spent almost 4m naira on just one car without adding your profit/gain.

Who will pay 4m for a muscle camry?

Money will be tied down for months.


Because of this huge cost, some dealers prefer bringing in crashed cars that will be less expensive which is bad as long as the cars are not irreparable.

But sir, what am saying is, if a dealer is bringing in accidented cars, he should let the buyers no about the accident/the history.


I dont know if you'll believe that some dealers will import extremely crashed/flooded/rollover cars with about 300k or more on the odometer.

They will roll back the odo.

They will tag it accident free/clean title with huge price.

Like you said, some crashed cars are expensive and i agree.


But the reason for this thread is why tagging a car accident free/clean title when the car has been badly damaged, rolled over, with deployed airbags, damaged frames and like that.

I dont have any reason to hate anyone, am not not a dealer.

We should just be sincere to ourselves.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Cosplay: 1:37pm On Mar 05, 2018
valarinz:


Lol,even the mileage corresponds with what I displayed and for all the noise you've been making since about being too smart and busting a fraud dealer, all you could find is a missing bumper.

Thanks for helping my biz, already got new clients now, seems most Nigerians don't mind missing bumpers as much as u do.

Tnx for your time

cheesy grin
No worries, I understand you’re trying to save face and remain composed. I will not embarrass you any further unless you specifically request some more.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Explorers(m): 1:38pm On Mar 05, 2018
toro92:

is it true VIN are manipulated sometimes?

Gat to know about it on this thread, ask cosplay or ipfreely/computerglobal
Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Cosplay: 1:45pm On Mar 05, 2018
I think we’ve all read these heated debates and we can all see that some of these usernames we think are dealers are merely middlemen who have little idea about the history of the cars they advertise, the last guy was shocked that I could get the history of his vehicle and the vin without his knowledge. This isn’t 1880 Sir.

ignorance is not an excuse

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Cosplay: 1:47pm On Mar 05, 2018
Explorers:


Sir, i appreciate your comment, so reasonable.

Am not a car dealer, but i know clean title cars are expensive.

Some clean title 2010 camry on carsforsale.com can go as high as $7,000 - $10,000(that's almost 2.5m - 3m in naira without shipping and clearing), by the time you take it to your stand, you've spent almost 4m naira on just one car without adding your profit/gain.

Who will pay 4m for a muscle camry?

Money will be tied down for months.


Because of this huge cost, some dealers prefer bringing in crashed cars that will be less expensive which is bad as long as the cars are not irreparable.

But sir, what am saying is, if a dealer is bringing in accidented cars, he should let the buyers no about the accident/the history.


I dont know if you'll believe that some dealers will import extremely crashed/flooded/rollover cars with about 300k or more on the odometer.

They will roll back the odo.

They will tag it accident free/clean title with huge price.

Like you said, some crashed cars are expensive and i agree.


But the reason for this thread is why tagging a car accident free/clean title when the car has been badly damaged, rolled over, with deployed airbags, damaged frames and like that.

I dont have any reason to hate anyone, am not not a dealer.

We should just be sincere to ourselves.



This gentleman understands.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Ipfreely: 1:50pm On Mar 05, 2018
shocked shocked What did I miss? We're on the FrontPage?

Banky3w, chukel, computerglobal, Diportivo, erico2k2, Gazzuzz, honmusa, cosplay, Kingreign, LeJeun3, Mayor2013, nurey, Obekediamondfuto, Princetom1, thebigkendo

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by chukel(m): 1:51pm On Mar 05, 2018
valarinz:


Yes this is my car which has been sold since last year, now show me adequate proof of it being the same car you posted without bumpers

You're still calling me names right, you're probably about to be made an example of on NL but you don't know it, except you leave this country
valarinz, I respect you a lot for standing by one brand. There is no need issuing threats. I checked out the thread, that car is accidented naa. The accident wasn't bad. Only rear bumper and minor blemishes on the right side. Truth is most Nigerians cannot and will not even if they have the means, buy clean titles. The campaign is just full disclosure. Just leave it at that Bro.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Explorers(m): 1:58pm On Mar 05, 2018
Mclovin4:
Truth is we underate our auto industry, those guys can fix up any crap anyone bring into this country.. the only problem is our dealers,just say the truth and move on..if anyone wants to buy, He/she will buy regardless


Exactly bros, if clean title cars are too expensive, then go for crash cars.

The reason we buy tokunbo cars is simply because brand new cars are too expensive.

If you bring in a crashed car and you worked on the body, sprayed it, replaced parts like the bumpers, lamps, fenders, doors, windshield and like that.

You can't tag it accident free, buyers should know and if they don't buy others will buy.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Explorers(m): 2:00pm On Mar 05, 2018
KIDfurniture:
All these cars re timed bombs - waiting to go off any moment - when it happens they blame our roads oh - I will never buy from anybody I will rather order myself and fix myself - we re evil and wicked in Nigeria - all we see is fine body but engines are damaged - I pray my next car would be brand new

Imagine bro, selling to people irreparable tagged cars with all airbags deployed.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Emmyk(m): 2:05pm On Mar 05, 2018
Explorers:


Sir, i appreciate your comment, so reasonable.

Am not a car dealer, but i know clean title cars are expensive.

Some clean title 2010 camry on carsforsale.com can go as high as $7,000 - $10,000(that's almost 2.5m - 3m in naira without shipping and clearing), by the time you take it to your stand, you've spent almost 4m naira on just one car without adding your profit/gain.

Who will pay 4m for a muscle camry?

Money will be tied down for months.


Because of this huge cost, some dealers prefer bringing in crashed cars that will be less expensive which is bad as long as the cars are not irreparable.

But sir, what am saying is, if a dealer is bringing in accidented cars, he should let the buyers no about the accident/the history.


I dont know if you'll believe that some dealers will import extremely crashed/flooded/rollover cars with about 300k or more on the odometer.

They will roll back the odo.

They will tag it accident free/clean title with huge price.

Like you said, some crashed cars are expensive and i agree.


But the reason for this thread is why tagging a car accident free/clean title when the car has been badly damaged, rolled over, with deployed airbags, damaged frames and like that.

I dont have any reason to hate anyone, am not not a dealer.

We should just be sincere to ourselves.



@ highlighted, this is the whole point of this thread, which sadly, quite a lot of people missed and some going on and about how Nigerians can't afford clean title cars if imported. How does not being able to afford clean title cars relate to not being transparent

It boils down to integrity, which many of us lack in Nigeria.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Ipfreely: 2:07pm On Mar 05, 2018
Where does one even start.

With the responses and insults and threats and debates from both sides of this issue, I believe the aim of this thread is being achieved. The awareness is being created.

And no matter what psychological games these dealers play aimed at trying to discourage buyers from running history checks including VIN, we should not fall for them.
Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by chukel(m): 2:09pm On Mar 05, 2018
Explorers:


Imagine bro, selling to people irreparable tagged cars with all airbags deployed.
pls let's not exaggerate these things. Whites buy these cars in their numbers, fix them up and sell at dealerships. They use these cars there a lot. In fact they drive up the prices at auction as a result of their interests and having excess cash cos they don't get to ship and pay custom duty. The campaign is full disclosure.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Explorers(m): 2:11pm On Mar 05, 2018
Emmyk:


@ highlighted, this is the whole point of this thread, which sadly, quite a lot of people missed and some going on and about how Nigerians can't afford clean titles if imported. How does not being able to afford clean titles relate to not being transparent

Thank you bros, that's the purpose of the thread.

Ive been called different names, some even said we're trying to stop importation of salvage vehicles.

How many civil servants can afford clean 2010 camry?

Na to buy salvage now, fix am.

But some of these dealers import over salvage cars and tag them accident free.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by erico2k2(m): 2:11pm On Mar 05, 2018
valarinz:


So bros, cos you bought a clean title car and yet Nigerians refused to buy it, rather they prefer the cheaper accidented ones, you pass the verdict that the fellow car dealers are your problem and reasons for not selling??

A very simple solution staring you in the face, yet u ignore it cos u want to follow the popular bandwagon route of blaming dealers for every thing, even a missing spare bolt.

All of them typing all these holy things here on this thread will still not buy your Clean title car, if you like supply VIN or more, they'll rather buy accidented or they'll price your Clean title car for same or even lower than accidented ones, yet u keep blaming the dealers, if you are serious for biz u won't put yourself in a situation where you'll have to tie down your money for 8 months for a meagre 150k profit.

Do the maths!!
Sometimes we need to think outta the box so we do not get stagnant.
The reasons I stopped was I found out its a waste of time cos it takes longer and ties ur money down.I never claimed it was cos of other sealers rather the Biz is now full of what seems to be cheaper newer cars.We are now finding out why these cars are cheaper,
Also when I was in the line of blaming other Dealers it was not genralizing rather the few bad eggs who do sharp practice, Now this brings me to wonder, are you amongst the few bad eggs who engage in sharp practices?cos im wondering why U picked up on a post that was sent in that direction!

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by erico2k2(m): 2:14pm On Mar 05, 2018
chukel:
pls let's not exaggerate these things. Whites buy these cars in their numbers, fix them up and sell at dealerships. They use these cars there a lot. In fact they drive up the prices at auction as a result of their interests and having excess cash cos they don't get to ship and pay custom duty. The campaign is full disclosure.
Hey we cannot suger coat shyte, people abroad buy these cars only if there is no structural damage and lebelled as repairable.Moreso, you will have to take these cars for inspection and it has to pass all safety checks, something very expenssive to do.Often its cheaper to buy a new car than this accident and damaged one hence the Insurance coy writes it off.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by valarinz: 2:16pm On Mar 05, 2018
chukel:
valarinz, I respect you a lot for standing by one brand. There is no need issuing threats. I checked out the thread, that car is accidented naa. The accident wasn't bad. Only rear bumper and minor blemishes on the right side. Truth is most Nigerians cannot and will not even if they have the means, buy clean titles. The campaign is just full disclosure. Just leave it at that Bro.

Ok bro, but from what u just saw, what was I supposed to tag the car ? "Accidented"?

NB : Note there was no structural damage to even the rear chassis that house that bumper, so will that make me to tag my car as accidented cos I change bumper or paint some minor dents on the door?

Note that the genesis of this attack on my personality is that I dared to have a different opinion from the way ericko saw it after his car sales adventure didn't quite work out well and despite all the noises, the only dirt he could pull was a fallen bumper

Waiting..
Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by erico2k2(m): 2:18pm On Mar 05, 2018
chukel:
valarinz, I respect you a lot for standing by one brand. There is no need issuing threats. I checked out the thread, that car is accidented naa. The accident wasn't bad. Only rear bumper and minor blemishes on the right side. Truth is most Nigerians cannot and will not even if they have the means, buy clean titles. The campaign is just full disclosure. Just leave it at that Bro.
Chey E don quiet now and E body don COLD
Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by erico2k2(m): 2:19pm On Mar 05, 2018
valarinz:


Ok bro, but from what u just saw, what was I supposed to tag the car ? "Accidented"?

Waiting..
Accident nah Accident,Una go dey run mouth upandown,jast respect ursef and leave this matter period,one day one of yah lot will sell these death trap to someone close and a minor bump there would be no airbag.
The truth of the matter is this, if you fix these cars to standard, you wont make profit.U know this

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Ipfreely: 2:20pm On Mar 05, 2018
erico2k2:

Hey we can suger coat shyte, people abroad buy these cars only if there is no structural damage and lebelled as repairable.Moreso, you will have to take these cars for inspection and it has to pass all safety checks, something very expenssive to do.Often its cheaper to buy a new car than this accident and damaged one hence the Insurance coy writes it off.

Now we're in more familiar territory. Getting cars registered isn't as easy elsewhere as it is in Nigeria. There are tons of checks. Emissions, etc etc. Roadworthiness in Nigeria is a huge joke, it isn't in North America.

If, after all these repairs chukel alluded to, these vehicles don't pass any of the DMV tests, good luck registering and using that vehicle legally.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by chukel(m): 2:20pm On Mar 05, 2018
erico2k2:

Hey we can suger coat shyte, people abroad buy these cars only if there is no structural damage and lebelled as repairable.Moreso, you will have to take these cars for inspection and it has to pass all safety checks, something very expenssive to do.Often its cheaper to buy a new car than this accident and damaged one hence the Insurance coy writes it off.
exactly. That's why you have the Mexicans with their cheap labor almost allover the states. But again, let's not derail this thread. Alot of shady practices have been going on here with the dealers. This is one very good move. I just hope the mods will enforce VIN as a requirement for adverts. Atleast a lot of people have been enlightened so they don't see honest dealers who bring in clean titled cars as greedy fellows who sell at exorbitant prices. Next door should be the custom clearing agents. Please this trend should continue. Especially unearthing fraudulent people who label salvage cars as accident free.

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Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by valarinz: 2:21pm On Mar 05, 2018
erico2k2:

Accident nah Accident,Una go dey run mouth upandown,jast respect ursef and leave this matter period,one day one of yah lot will sell these death trap to someone close and a minor bump there would be no airbag.
The truth of the matter is this, if you fix these cars to standard, you wont make profit.U know this

So, what are you now saying pls??

Or you think I'm afraid of the herd? No matter how many you people are in number, ill stand my ground and debate it out until it becomes clear to the neutral observer who has a case and who doesn't, you expect me to go and hide somewhere cos I want to let the thread go quiet for me to resume selling accident Japanese cars??

I will keep running my mouth, I have more than 20 Toks car ad on NL, show me that at least 1% of the cars are accident cars so I'll apologise and promise to turn a new leaf
Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by erico2k2(m): 2:22pm On Mar 05, 2018
chukel:
exactly. That's why you have the Mexicans with their cheap labor almost allover the states. But again, let's not derail this thread. Alot of shady practices have been going on here with the dealers. This is one very good move. I just hope the mods will enforce VIN as a requirement for adverts. Atleast a lot of people have been enlightened so they don't see honest dealers who bring in clean titled cars as greedy fellows who sell at exorbitant prices. Next door should be the custom clearing agents. Please this trend should continue. Especially unearthing fraudulent people who label salvage cars as accident free.
ahah I like the last bit salvage car as free and clean.Them full here.
Re: Shocking Transformation Of Some Crashed Cars Sold In Nigeria (Photos) by Ipfreely: 2:23pm On Mar 05, 2018
Almost all these severely accidented or flooded vehicles you see getting 'repaired' and sent to Nigeria, would never pass DMV checks and wouldn't legally be allowed on the roads.

The repairs to get a vehicle legally roadworthy in North America can be very expensive and extensive, depending on the damage.

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