Emmanystone:

If i follow you, i'll end confused worahipping a demon masquerading as Jehovah. They are not known by their names, but by their acts, but you have over looked that.

MuttleyLaff:


The tetragrammaton YHWH or Yahweh, serves its purpose and so is enough name, for God, to give out
I think can guess why God didnt tell Jacob and Moses, what His real name is

Emmanystone:

Let's not walk with names, let's work with their M.Os.

Again, i say, present the attributes of Anu let me present that of YHWH let's compare and contrast.

Emmanystone:

I think you are saying this because you see Moses who wrote the Genesis account as the one who created the universe, because if not, you won't begin comparing the Epic of Gilgamesh with Genesis.

How many generations spanned from Abraham to Moses? Yet Abraham had lived in Ur of mesopotamia for 75yrs with his other family members before living for Canaan where his own family tree began down to Moses.

Bros, come up.

OkCornel:
Food for thought...

Yahweh revealed Himself to the Hebrews such as Jacob, Moses, Abraham...e.t.c.

If this same God revealed Himself to an Indian man...or an Arabic man, would they record the name as Yahweh OR rather document the meaning of Yahweh in their mother tongue?

Gayjesus:


Nice. I laughed when he said gilgermesh copied Moses, I just chose to ignore

Gayjesus:


What is the point of this thread if you guys feel you already know it all. To learn you need to be empty.

No wonder billionaire did not bother commenting

Asking where is Enki now, where is your god now too

MuttleyLaff:
0"Food for thought" questions and/or explainings to do:

#1) It 'll be great, you explain what name Yahweh revealed Himself as, to the Hebrews, in particular, such as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

#2) Then, convincingly explain the meaning and implication of Exodus 6:3
Why did God, literally, in Exodus 6:3 say:
"by My name, YHWH or Yahweh, not did I reveal Myself to them"

#3) Now, explain from your understanding what the tetragrammaton, YHWH or Yahweh, explain means?

#4) OK, to what end and purpose, is this same God, differently, revealing Himself, with another name, to the Indian man... or an Arab...?

#5) About "meaning of Yahweh in their mother tongue",
please explain and give a list of the other names in their mother tongues, revealed to "the Indian man... or an Arab..."
that carries same substance, reality and panache in meaning, as the name, Yahweh or YHWH, does

PS: Please, no half hearted and/or ineffectual five answered responses
and no evasions or sidestepping any of the five questions

Gayjesus:


A god you have no personal knowledge of. Where is the god today ?

OkCornel:
Like I mentioned earlier,
try not to get lost in the labels and names.
Playing the name and religion game profits no one here...

OkCornel:
There was something Elihu mentioned to Job and his other friends which you should take note of in Job 32 v 8;
But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

OkCornel:
God has been talking to and revealing Himself to men and not just the Jews alone right from the ancient times...

That's the point I'm making here...

ifenes:


Chill with your god, Yahweh/ Annunaki god. I don’t have time for meaningless debate

MuttleyLaff:
What the #$£¥¤¿%¤±?
SMH, like I mentioned earlier, were you not warned as I envisaged you would, not to try evade answering the five questions?
You must be having a laugh. I think Gayjesus laugh must be catching on.
Tell, was it me, who instigated or chose the tetragrammaton Yahweh or YHWH "label"?

You keep going down a detour road,
and continually harping about Elihu and Job.

I will now rein you in and back to Exodus 6:3.
Rein you back to the same Exodus 6:3, that you're behaving like a long oil tanker making a slow u-turn on a busy road with.

Now without further duckings, compare Job 32:8 with Exodus 6:3 and tell what you see common about how God is known, in both verses to Abraham, Isaac & Jacob and Elihu & Job?

The point is you are yet to make any tangible and connectable point, that's in relation to the tetragrammaton Yahweh or YHWH
Please just answer the earlier five questions.

ifenes:


Read the Enuma Elish, it is the oldest creation account. Read for yourself if you want to know. Google it. I was going to say a lot about it until one of you made a nasty comment.

OkCornel:


Then you do not have the Spirit of God/Truth working in you...

This is what happens when you see God through the eyes of religion...

If you truly have the Spirit of God in you, then you won't be typing this fear of worshipping a Demon in the place of God...

Can you ask God for bread and get stone in return? Why do people fear the deceit of darkness over the power of TRUTH?

Emmanystone:

Pls don't fall my hand here, abeg.

So if i have the spirit of God that is when i will accept anyone who presents me with any god saying it is YHWH? You just presented Anunnaki to me as YHWH, ad far as you are concerned i shd accept it like that before i will be a Christian according to you?

Who is even talking about religion here?

How do you know a man? Isn't it by what he does? How do you know a Christian? Isn't it by what he/she does? Is it by what they say they are? Haven't you seen Satanists presenting themselves as Christians, shd we accept them as such just because they claim it?

You said God manifests himself in different ways, which i didn't object to, but for you to say Anu is YHWH is for you to present the Acts and Ways of Anu juxtaposing them with that of YHWH, with that you can see if indeed they are, for YHWH is unchangeable. Except you say He changes.

Emmanystone:

Pls don't send me to read anything. The Op says present your points here, it doesn't say, direct people on what to read.

What does Enuma Elish say? Present it here.

Since i joined this forum i have watched you act like you actually know what you are talking about, that's because no one has really taken time to tackle you.

Pls present all about Anu, whom you claim is YHWH here. I'd like to know that Anu is my God.

Emmanystone:

Pls don't fall my hand here, abeg.

So if i have the spirit of God that is when i will accept anyone who presents me with any god saying it is YHWH? You just presented Anunnaki to me as YHWH, ad far as you are concerned i shd accept it like that before i will be a Christian according to you?

Who is even talking about religion here?

How do you know a man? Isn't it by what he does? How do you know a Christian? Isn't it by what he/she does? Is it by what they say they are? Haven't you seen Satanists presenting themselves as Christians, shd we accept them as such just because they claim it?

You said God manifests himself in different ways, which i didn't object to, but for you to say Anu is YHWH is for you to present the Acts and Ways of Anu juxtaposing them with that of YHWH, with that you can see if indeed they are, for YHWH is unchangeable. Except you say He changes.

ifenes:


I will put all that on my own thread. Have a look tonight when I unload real knowledge, it will be a waste on here.

OkCornel:


Please tell me what I have overlooked...

Kindly explain where you misunderstood me...because I do not understand the basis for this hasty conclusion

OkCornel:


Food for thought...

Yahweh revealed Himself to the Hebrews such as Jacob, Moses, Abraham...e.t.c.

If this same God revealed Himself to an Indian man...or an Arabic man, would they record the name as Yahweh OR rather document the meaning of Yahweh in their mother tongue?

OkCornel:


All these names are of little concern to me...

If the Spirit of God works in you, you can differentiate the Almighty from the others...

Just as the Apostles of old did...

Emmanystone:

You overlooked their Modus Operandi, that is why you insist they are the same entity.

You said, it shouldn't be about their names, but how do we identify them if we overlook their names? If you don't know your name, you can be called anything.
Without identity the value of a thing will be lost or worst still misplaced.

The Noun God is a title not a name, hence every deity has a personal name and their names reflects what and who they are.

Most importantly, their Acts. These gods have ways they act, demons may pretend to be YHWH, but slow down and scrutinize, you'll catch them masquerading as YHWH. Sadly, so called Christians accepts them as their God.

Bros, you can not just pass off YHWH as Anu without making sure they Act in the same way.

So, i ask you again to pls present here the attributes of Anu, let me present that of YHWH, with these, we can compare and contrst.

OkCornel:


You need to step up your research so we don't have to go back and forth on this issue...

Based on research done by history scholar and archaeologists, the earliest estimated date when Epic of Gilgamesh was written (which is based on the oldest existing forms of the poem found on cuneiform) was around 2,000 BC...you can go through this link to confirm;

http://webpages.uidaho.edu/engl257/Ancient/epic_of_gilgamesh.htm

While the earliest estimated date for when Genesis was written is 1,290 BC. You can also confirm vis this link;
https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_678.cfm

Also feel free to do your research to corroborate or counter this...

Cheers

MuttleyLaff:
0"Food for thought" questions and/or explainings to do:

#1) It 'll be great, you explain what name Yahweh revealed Himself as, to the Hebrews, in particular, such as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

#2) Then, convincingly explain the meaning and implication of Exodus 6:3
Why did God, literally, in Exodus 6:3 say:
"by My name, YHWH or Yahweh, not did I reveal Myself to them"

#3) Now, explain from your understanding what the tetragrammaton, YHWH or Yahweh, explain means?

#4) OK, to what end and purpose, is this same God, differently, revealing Himself, with another name, to the Indian man... or an Arab...?

#5) About "meaning of Yahweh in their mother tongue",
please explain and give a list of the other names in their mother tongues, revealed to "the Indian man... or an Arab..."
that carries same substance, reality and panache in meaning, as the name, Yahweh or YHWH, does

PS: Please, no half hearted and/or ineffectual five answered responses
and no evasions or sidestepping any of the five questions

Emmanystone:

So YHWH will reveal himself to indians as Shiva instead of YHWH? This is the thing.

Emmanystone:

You think i have not already read those links?

Pls sir tell me, did Moses create the Universe?

OkCornel:


Like I mentioned earlier, try not to get lost in the labels and names. Playing the name and religion game profits no one here...

There was something Elihu mentioned to Job and his other friends which you should take note of in Job 32 v 8;
But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

God has been talking to and revealing Himself to men and not just the Jews alone right from the ancient times...

That's the point I'm making here...

Emmanystone:

Pls answer his questions and add if this God who reveals Himself to men other than the Jews changes in his Mode of Operations.

I need to know because people like you are those who insists that Allah is YHWH and make lazy Christians worship satan.

YHWH has His ways whether or not he deals with the Jews, hence i asked you earlier where you found the account of Job(?). Was it in Vishnu or Koran? Isn't it in the Bible?

Good used Cyrus for His work in rebuilding the Walls of Jerusalem burnt down by Nebuchadnezzar. Cyrus was a heathen king. God used Nebuchadnezzar and later, Alexander The Great to fulfill His prophecy of destroying Tyre and Sidon, were they Jews? No. Where did we find these men? In the Bible. Were YHWH's acts in the activities of these men different from those we know in the midst of the Jews?

If Shiva claims she is YHWH will you not scrutinize her by her acts before believing that she indeed is YHWH manifesting as a goddess in India?

OkCornel:
It seems you are not patient enough to get the message I am passing across...

OkCornel:
God is not a God of the Hebrews or Christians alone...He is the Creator of all

OkCornel:
and chooses to reveal Himself to whomever He deems fit...

OkCornel:
In addition to Job 32 v 8; read up Genesis 4 v 26;

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord

OkCornel:
Before YHWH was known in name, men worshipped and knew God...
I have read Exodus 6 v 3 you have been brandishing in my face,
now answer my question, before Abraham...please tell us the name God revealed Himself to right from Adam to the days of Enos...is there a name anywhere?

OkCornel:
It's irritating when someone tries to make a point and you see it as pointless and meaningless or as escaping your questions. Calm down and see things from the other person's point of view. I am not here to argue needlessly biko...

MuttleyLaff:
I am patient, and very patient enough to see that the message you are passing across is premature if not distracting to what the tetragrammaton Yahweh or YHWH, the subject of this discussion is

God, whether acknowledged or not, doesnt minimise or nullifies God being God of everybody and all things

The LORD answered: All right. I am the LORD,
and I show mercy and kindness to anyone I choose
I will let you see my glory and hear my holy name,
- Exodus 33:19
You see Exodus 33:19 above, that you aren't saying anything that isn't in public domain

If you know what "hulal" means you wouldn't quote this verse and quote it with the intention of misinterpreting it too.

Yes, but by now, I think you're about beginning to understand why God only offered the tetragrammaton Yahweh or YHWH as being enough

Let me correct you on what could b irritating, personal agenda, to change the remit of the discussion.
What can be irritating, is dodging answering questions and putting forward points first before answering same questions

And for the records, deal with me separately from Gayjesus or anyone else!I am dealing with you squarely, directly and only.
Gayjesus came in to our healthy dialogue and conversation because his laughing seemed to have rubbed off on you

Now, please stop putting the cart before the horse, start answering questions and then you, afterwards can go ahead, making your point(s)

OkCornel:


It seems you are not patient enough to get the message I am passing across...

God is not a God of the Hebrews or Christians alone...He is the Creator of all, and chooses to reveal Himself to whomever He deems fit...

In addition to Job 32 v 8; read up Genesis 4 v 26;

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.


Before YHWH was known in name, men worshipped and knew God... I have read Exodus 6 v 3 you have been brandishing in my face, now answer my question, before Abraham...please tell us the name God revealed Himself to right from Adam to the days of Enos...is there a name anywhere?

It's irritating when someone tries to make a point and you see it as pointless and meaningless or as escaping your questions. Calm down and see things from the other person's point of view. I am not here to argue needlessly biko...

And for the records, deal with me separately from Gayjesus or anyone else!

Emmanystone:

Pls compare this And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Genesis:4:26

And this And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:
Exodus:6:2
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Exodus:6:3

May be you will get an understanding that the LORD has a particular way he appeared and dealt with those He had led as the LORD.

He never changes. If he is the LORD to you, He'll be the LORD to me. Tha is why He was the LORD to Moses a Jew and was the LORD to Job a non Jew.