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Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by sonmvayina(m): 6:27pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
OkCornel: |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by butterflylion: 6:28pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
OkCornel: Hmm how did Jesus describe himself in John 14:6? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 6:31pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
butterflylion: What is the role of Jesus in the God head? Let us keep it simple...God is the Truth... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by butterflylion: 6:32pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
OkCornel: I cannot keep simple what is in scripture. What did Jesus say in John 14:6? 2 Likes |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 6:37pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
butterflylion: Quote it here... you are telling me things I already know... and I have moved on from that... Keep things simple... in very basic terms, this is what truth is - that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality If you want to bring me back into the circle of idolizing a man to the point of losing focus on the things He lived and died for...please count me out... If you insist Jesus alone is the TRUTH... Then does that make other men like Enoch or Bhudda or even yourself a liar? I have gone back and forth on all these question and answer sessions before...and I am bored stiff... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by sonmvayina(m): 6:38pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
OkCornel: So that means Mary his mother is lucifer, like I said earlier....the light bearer..... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by butterflylion: 6:39pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
OkCornel: What is truth? Who is Bhudda? Who was Enoch? Who am I? Who are you? 2 Likes |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MrBottle: 6:40pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
I have learnt next to nothing on this thread. I mean I am utterly confused by the back and forth superiority match of my god is bigger than yours contestants. Ain't funny ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by CuteMadridista: 6:48pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
MrBottle: "your dick might be the size of a bottle but I've got balls the size of Jupiter" that's how I see the back and forth 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 6:51pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
sonmvayina: My goodness...that is a twist in the wrong direction... In the literal sense...that would also mean anyone who bears light including yourself and me are also Lucifer isn't it? Or let's go down further... if I hold a torchlight...it does not make me Lucifer...or does it? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 6:52pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
MrBottle: This is the confusion that comes with religion or labeling God with names... It's sad I must say... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 6:54pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
butterflylion: I have put the definition of truth in my previous post to you... Enoch, Bhudda, myself and you are children of God... wait a minute, are you of the opinion that man cannot communicate directly with God? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MuttleyLaff: 10:10pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:Really? Does it now? I am interested all biblical references you can signpost me to, about this your bold statement, that says: "Christianity means to be like Christ"? OkaiCorne:The number of Christians that are like Christ are few and far in between OkaiCorne:How is the country like? Never mind, back to answering your question The country is like it is because the number "Christ like" people in Nigeria are few and far in between OkaiCorne:Since, I have taken time and put in meaningful effort in answering your two questions above, here is my observations and questions I expect you to answer for me The bible doesnt anywhere say Christians are like Christ The bible doesnt anywhere say a Christian is someone who believes in Christ and behaves like Christ The bible never called disciples, never called any of the Apostles, never called saints etcetera christians The bible never informs that the disciples, any of the Apostles, saints etcetera addressed each other as christians or called each other christians Now its because of those four for now observations, that are why, I dont really follow you nor understand why and how you equated "Christian" to be "like Christ" We both know, that the word, Christian, occurs only, 3 times in the bible but it will be a tragic mistake, if you plan to improperly lean on to those 3 verses (i.e. Act 11:26, Act 26:28 and/or 1 Peter 4:16) for succour, as I ask you the following questions: 1/ What, according to your undertanding, before being sanitised, does Christian mean? 2/ Why was King Agrippa particularly horrified at the prospect of being labelled a Christian 3/ Do you notice Paul response to Aggrippa? 4/ Do you notice Paul stopped short of using Aggrippa's "Christian" adjective and/or label but instead opted to use "I would to God that not only you but also all who hear me this day might become such as I am"? 5/ Aside everytime cliche responses, like, for example, saying: the tag "Christian" wasn't used by Jesus, the disciples or early believers etcetera why, responding in an elaborate manner of writing, dont you subscribe to "I am a Christian by tag"? Why are you aversed to being labelled a Christian? OkaiCorne:No, yeah sure, to "Christianity is not a religion", kankan because if you've heard, all the time, that "Christianity is not a religion" then you've wrongly being informed. Christianity is a religion, period. I'll repeat here again, that Christianity, is about invented truth Rarely, is it about discovered truth, rarely does it, make religion out of discovered truth instead, it has the habit, a lot, to make religion, out of invented truth Its noteworthy that, the lake of fire will first freeze up before you'll ever come across the word "christianity" in the bible but make no mistake, "christianity" is in there alright, its in there, in the bible described. The bible painted a picture of "christianity" without mentioning the word "christianity" OkaiCorne:All these, bar shadow healing the sick, are happening everyday today, and happening increasingly too OkaiCorne:There was no lack in the church...? You're kidding me right about there was no lack in the church back in biblical times? Right? Where are all of these today? Maybe its because the Ananias and Sapphira stunt scuppered the move and seriously damaged the "sharing all they had in common that there was no lack in the church" model and that is why, fast forwarding to Romans 15:26, believers in Macedonia and Achaia, had to reach out to the poor among, same Ananias and Sapphira's Jerusalem with financial aid 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 11:23pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: In a few words, what is the difference between Christian and Christianity... And please shed more light on Christianity being an invented truth... If there was absence of lack in the early church as stated by the Bible...do you think it is an impossible feat to achieve? Do you also think calling myself a Christian automatically means I am a candidate for Heaven? I just don't want to be tagged with that word "Christian"...it is overrated, polluted and abused... it's my personal decision...afterall, a tree would be judged by the quality of the fruit it bears...and not by the name you call it... A productive orange tree carries more value than a barren fig tree... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MuttleyLaff: 11:33pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
OkCornel:First come, first serve Answer each and all my questions in that post first, without leaving out any then I will justifiably do same with yours PS: Seems you dont note my syntaxes and/or choice of words, be mindful henceforth of them I didnt type:Christianity being an invented truth but typed: Christianity, is about invented truth OkCornel:You added these, after I had already responded to your original submission Go back as earlier said, answer each and all my questions in that post first, without leaving out any then I will justifiably do same with your questions 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 11:41pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: Christianity is about invented truth...what difference does it make from what I mentioned earlier? "being" and "is about" what is different here in the context of what I asked? Let's try not to major on minor issues...lest we miss the point altogether. Not everyone has a perfectionist view on English or Literature for that matter... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MuttleyLaff: 11:54pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
OkCornel:You're wrapped up in your own ways and echo chamber. Always, at the feel of the slightest discomfort, defensively lashing out when your attention is called to something There is a subtle difference, that is why I corrected you You'll be right, and I wouldnt have objected, had it being you wrote: "please shed more light on Christianity being about invented truth" OkCornel:SMH. We can switch to vernacular if that suits you happy I dont know why I even bother 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 12:06am On Mar 12, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: Acts 11 v 26 which you mentioned earlier - And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch: and it came to pass that a whole year they were conversant with the Church, and taught much people, insomuch that the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch. What drove people to call the disciples Christians? Weren't they Christ Like? In whose authority were they teaching and preaching and performing signs and wonders? MuttleyLaff:So why were the disciples called Christians at Antioch...was it an insult? Anyways, the focus is on the fruits they bore and not the name (if any) they gave themselves... MuttleyLaff: Who then called the disciples at Antioch Christians? MuttleyLaff: I am not bothered by this, afterall... the "Christian" tag was invented by man... MuttleyLaff: Since you have a sound understanding of these verses, put them in proper context for us to see... MuttleyLaff: A follower of Christ... going by the events of Acts 11 v 26 MuttleyLaff: Many things could be going through his head. For example, being a follower of a man who died a shameful death by Roman Standards could jeopardize his authority as god and emperor over Rome... MuttleyLaff:Are you implying the word "Christian" is an insult rather than a compliment? MuttleyLaff: God does not work with tags to identify who His children truly are... so therefore, what advantage is there calling myself a "Christian"? what added advantage does it have? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 12:09am On Mar 12, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: Like I mentioned earlier, let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill... Is it my query on the difference between "being" and "is about" that moved you into typing all of these? And you are telling me I am defensively lashing out? over what exactly? petty issues? MuttleyLaff: Since you want to go sarcastic...why not pass your message across in sign language? You don't know why you bother? Then why bother yourself at all? Honestly, you are more mature than this... and if you have something to share, please share and overlook all these pettiness in vocabulary and grammar... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by MuttleyLaff: 12:32am On Mar 12, 2018 |
OkCornel:No, maybe you arent consciously aware you do it but when you're pulled up on things you've posted, you increasingly become uncomfortable and less assured, and so lash out to whoevers called you out, with spiteful comments. Maybe its a strategy done, to get whoever, to back off What you fail to realise is that, I know what I bring to the table, so trust me when/if I say, I am not afraid to eat alone I don't share what I know, because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently but I share what I know, to show people who know, like me, that, they're not alone Afterall and at the end of the day, a candle loses nothing by lighting another candle OkCornel:You've done this again After I had already responded to your original submission You went in and added these enviable above and immediate comment, but you've done an own goal, confirming my assertion to a tee about you, your nature and modus operandi By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you... "alo ramirami" ignored. Another ID moniker bites the dust 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 12:50am On Mar 12, 2018 |
OkCornel:Yes, there's another meaning to ALL FLESH. There is 'absolutely' ALL and relatively ALL. There is ALL without exception and ALL without distinction. Meaning, if the ALL used by Joel means Absolutely without exception, everyone in Jerusalem, and Judea entirely, extending to every man living on earth then would have recieved the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost which was evident by speaking in other tongues. The Greeks, Phonicians, Syrians and others nationalities wouldn't be perplexed needing explanations as to the strange occurrence. But, that was not the case, as only 120 persons experienced that when the Holy Ghost came down. Now, what does the ALL here means? It means ALL without distinction. This means, males, females, children, Jews, Gentiles, This means all classes of peope irrespective of who they are or where they are from. God chose who He wld give his Spirit. Case in point, Cornelius and his household. He was an Italian who God gave the Holy Ghost, which ordinarily he shouldn't recieve. While in Judea Jews (the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Herodians), and all others missed it. What this tells us is that, YHWH chooses who He would give His Spirit. It doesn't matter who they are or what they had done. It's just a gift |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 12:59am On Mar 12, 2018 |
OkCornel:Look at that. Which Bhudda precisely are you talking about here? And who is Enoch? 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:06am On Mar 12, 2018 |
sonmvayina:Genesis to Deutronomy was written by Ezra after the exile in Babylon? Hahahahahahahabababa Nothing persin no go hear from these people. What are the Acts of this Marduk? Pls poat them here. All of them. 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:07am On Mar 12, 2018 |
OkCornel:And you have not head that satan presents himself to the decieved as an Angel of Light? 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:10am On Mar 12, 2018 |
OkCornel:Who is the Holy Spirit? 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:11am On Mar 12, 2018 |
OkCornel:Sorry, i missed your stance on Jesus. Pls refresh. What is your stance on Jesus? 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 1:13am On Mar 12, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Interesting... 1) so what did YHWH do to bring Adam to life? 2) What did YHWH mean by "my Spirit shall no longer contend with man...and he shall now live to be 120 years old" 3) What Spirit was referred to in Job 32 v 8; Surely there is a spirit in man, but the inspiration of the Almighty giveth understanding. Is it not the Spirit of God that gives life to a man? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:13am On Mar 12, 2018 |
MrBottle:The thread is totally derailed. I was going somewhere but Okcornel took that off. I tired and tried to stir away from derailment, here we are. 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 1:14am On Mar 12, 2018 |
Emmanystone: And don't you have the Spirit of God that would guide you into all truth? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 1:15am On Mar 12, 2018 |
Emmanystone: And don't you have the Spirit of God that would guide you into all truth? Or is the deceit and trickery of Satan more powerful than the Spirit of God in you? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:16am On Mar 12, 2018 |
OkCornel:Oh plsssssss. You are worst than a religious person, for you know nothing about any of these things. This thread is this derailed because of you. You dodge answering the questions that will puy us on thw right path but here you are talking about religion. Who is talking about religion here? 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Emmanystone: 1:17am On Mar 12, 2018 |
OkCornel:Outside of Jesus, No. God won't hear you. Except of course it's not YHWH you are talking to. 1 Like |
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