OkCornel:


God Himself... unless you think I am referring to God the Father alone...

OkCornel:


God is the truth

butterflylion:


Hmm how did Jesus describe himself in John 14:6?

OkCornel:


What is the role of Jesus in the God head?

Let us keep it simple...God is the Truth...

butterflylion:


I cannot keep simple what is in scripture. What did Jesus say in John 14:6?

OkCornel:


I'll tell you what you want to hear - JESUS

I thought saying God would be explanatory enough...as though Jesus could do anything without the Holy Spirit and the will of God backing it up...

OkCornel:


Quote it here... you are telling me things I already know... and I have moved on from that...

Keep things simple... in very basic terms, this is what truth is - that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality

If you want to bring me back into the circle of idolizing a man to the point of losing focus on the things He lived and died for...please count me out...

If you insist Jesus alone is the TRUTH... Then does that make other men like Enoch or Bhudda or even yourself a liar?

I have gone back and forth on all these question and answer sessions before...and I am bored stiff...

MrBottle:
I have learnt next to nothing on this thread.
I mean I am utterly confused by the back and forth superiority match of my god is bigger than yours contestants.
Ain't funny

sonmvayina:


So that means Mary his mother is lucifer, like I said earlier....the light bearer.....

MrBottle:
I have learnt next to nothing on this thread.
I mean I am utterly confused by the back and forth superiority match of my god is bigger than yours contestants.
Ain't funny

butterflylion:


What is truth? Who is Bhudda? Who was Enoch? Who am I? Who are you?

OkaiCorne:
Bro, I know Christianity means to be like Christ....

OkaiCorne:
Ask yourself, how many Christians are like Christ?

OkaiCorne:
Ask yourself, despite all the number of "Christ like" people in Nigeria, why is this country like this?

OkaiCorne:
Like I mentioned earlier, I am not into being labelled as a Christian...
just leave me to serve God without tagging me with a name for what I do

OkaiCorne:
Yeah sure, Christianity is not a religion...
I've heard that all the time...

OkaiCorne:
Things the Apostles did... like raising people from the dead,
Peter's shadow healing the sick,
Paul casting aside a poisonous snake that bit him and not dying...

OkaiCorne:
And even most importantly...
People sharing all they had in common that there was no lack in the church...
Where are all of these today?

MuttleyLaff:
Really?
Does it now?
I am interested all biblical references you can signpost me to, about this your bold statement, that says:
"Christianity means to be like Christ"?

The number of Christians that are like Christ are few and far in between

How is the country like?
Never mind, back to answering your question
The country is like it is because the number "Christ like" people in Nigeria are few and far in between

Since, I have taken time and put in meaningful effort in answering your two questions above,
here is my observations and questions I expect you to answer for me

The bible doesnt anywhere say Christians are like Christ
The bible doesnt anywhere say a Christian is someone who believes in Christ and behaves like Christ
The bible never called disciples, never called any of the Apostles, never called saints etcetera christians
The bible never informs that the disciples, any of the Apostles, saints etcetera addressed each other as christians or called each other christians

Now its because of those four for now observations, that are why, I dont really follow you
nor understand why and how you equated "Christian" to be "like Christ"

We both know, that the word, Christian, occurs only, 3 times in the bible
but it will be a tragic mistake,
if you plan to improperly lean on to those 3 verses (i.e. Act 11:26, Act 26:28 and/or 1 Peter 4:16) for succour,
as I ask you the following questions:

1/ What, according to your undertanding, before being sanitised, does Christian mean?
2/ Why was King Agrippa particularly horrified at the prospect of being labelled a Christian
3/ Do you notice Paul response to Aggrippa?
4/ Do you notice Paul stopped short of using Aggrippa's "Christian" adjective and/or label
but instead opted to use "I would to God that not only you but also all who hear me this day might become such as I am"?
5/ Aside everytime cliche responses,
like, for example, saying: the tag "Christian" wasn't used by Jesus, the disciples or early believers etcetera
why, responding in an elaborate manner of writing, dont you subscribe to "I am a Christian by tag"?
Why are you aversed to being labelled a Christian?

No, yeah sure, to "Christianity is not a religion", kankan
because if you've heard, all the time, that "Christianity is not a religion" then you've wrongly being informed.

Christianity is a religion, period.

I'll repeat here again, that Christianity, is about invented truth
Rarely, is it about discovered truth,
rarely does it, make religion out of discovered truth
instead, it has the habit, a lot, to make religion, out of invented truth

Its noteworthy that, the lake of fire will first freeze up before you'll ever come across the word "christianity" in the bible
but make no mistake, "christianity" is in there alright, its in there, in the bible described.
The bible painted a picture of "christianity" without mentioning the word "christianity"

All these, bar shadow healing the sick, are happening everyday today, and happening increasingly too

There was no lack in the church...?
You're kidding me right about there was no lack in the church back in biblical times? Right?
Where are all of these today?

Maybe its because the Ananias and Sapphira stunt scuppered the move
and seriously damaged the "sharing all they had in common that there was no lack in the church" model
and that is why, fast forwarding to Romans 15:26,
believers in Macedonia and Achaia, had to reach out to the poor among, same Ananias and Sapphira's Jerusalem with financial aid

OkCornel:
In a few words, what is the difference between Christian and Christianity...

And please shed more light on Christianity being an invented truth...

If there was absence of lack in the early church as stated by the Bible...
do you think it is an impossible feat to achieve?

OkCornel:
Do you also think calling myself a Christian automatically means I am a candidate for Heaven?
I just don't want to be tagged with that word "Christian"...
it is overrated, polluted and abused... it's my personal decision...
afterall, a tree would be judged by the quality of the fruit it bears...and not by the name you call it...

A productive orange tree carries more value than a barren fig tree...

MuttleyLaff:
First come, first serve
Answer each and all my questions in that post first, without leaving out any
then I will justifiably do same with yours

PS: Seems you dont note my syntaxes and/or choice of words, be mindful henceforth of them
I didnt type:Christianity being an invented truth
but typed:
Christianity, is about invented truth

OkCornel:
Christianity is about invented truth...
what difference does it make from what I mentioned earlier?
"being" and "is about" what is different here in the context of what I asked?

OkCornel:
Let's try not to major on minor issues...lest we miss the point altogether.
Not everyone has a perfectionist view on English or Literature for that matter...

MuttleyLaff:
Really?

Since, I have taken time and put in meaningful effort in answering your two questions above,
here is my observations and questions I expect you to answer for me

The bible doesnt anywhere say Christians are like Christ

MuttleyLaff:

The bible doesn't anywhere say a Christian is someone who believes in Christ and behaves like Christ

MuttleyLaff:

The bible never called disciples, never called any of the Apostles, never called saints etcetera christians

MuttleyLaff:

The bible never informs that the disciples, any of the Apostles, saints etcetera addressed each other as christians or called each other christians

MuttleyLaff:

Now its because of those four for now observations, that are why, I dont really follow you
nor understand why and how you equated "Christian" to be "like Christ"

We both know, that the word, Christian, occurs only, 3 times in the bible
but it will be a tragic mistake,
if you plan to improperly lean on to those 3 verses (i.e. Act 11:26, Act 26:28 and/or 1 Peter 4:16) for succour,

MuttleyLaff:

as I ask you the following questions:

1/ What, according to your undertanding, before being sanitised, does Christian mean?

MuttleyLaff:

2/ Why was King Agrippa particularly horrified at the prospect of being labelled a Christian

MuttleyLaff:

3/ Do you notice Paul response to Aggrippa?
4/ Do you notice Paul stopped short of using Aggrippa's "Christian" adjective and/or label
but instead opted to use "I would to God that not only you but also all who hear me this day might become such as I am"?

MuttleyLaff:

5/ Aside everytime cliche responses,
like, for example, saying: the tag "Christian" wasn't used by Jesus, the disciples or early believers etcetera
why, responding in an elaborate manner of writing, dont you subscribe to "I am a Christian by tag"?
Why are you aversed to being labelled a Christian?

MuttleyLaff:


You're wrapped up in your own ways and echo chamber.
Always, at the feel of the slightest discomfort, defensively lashing out when your attention is called to something

There is a subtle difference, that is why I corrected you
You'll be right, and I wouldnt have objected, had it being you wrote:
"please shed more light on Christianity being about invented truth"

MuttleyLaff:

SMH. We can switch to vernacular
if that suits you happy
I dont know why I even bother

OkCornel:
Like I mentioned earlier, let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill...

Is it my query on the difference between "being" and "is about" that moved you into typing all of these?

And you are telling me I am defensively lashing out?
over what exactly? petty issues?

OkCornel:
Since you want to go sarcastic...why not pass your message across in sign language?

You don't know why you bother? Then why bother yourself at all?

Honestly, you are more mature than this... and if you have something to share, please share and overlook all these pettiness in vocabulary and grammar...

OkCornel:


Please tell me, is there another meaning to "All flesh"? Or is the word not self explanatory?

OkCornel:


Quote it here... you are telling me things I already know... and I have moved on from that...

Keep things simple... in very basic terms, this is what truth is - that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality

If you want to bring me back into the circle of idolizing a man to the point of losing focus on the things He lived and died for...please count me out...

If you insist Jesus alone is the TRUTH... Then does that make other men like Enoch or Bhudda or even yourself a liar?


I have gone back and forth on all these question and answer sessions before...and I am bored stiff...

sonmvayina:


The bible is the story of all the Anunaki gods..Enki,Enlil,inanna....and for the last time, they are not aliens, they are spiritual beings...

We have their equivalent in our own traditional religion. It is the nomenclature and the stories man has built to pass this message that is different..

All the Gods are the same..i mean Marduk=Eledumare,=osanobua=jupliter=chukwu= the creator of the universe

Esu=ekwensu=nergal=devil

Inanna=olokun=aphrodite=venus=ishtar=mary the mother Jesus=lucifer= goddess of death and destruction.

The book of the law(genesis-deteronomy) was written by Ezra, this was done when the jews left the babylonian exile, that was when Judaism started taking shape..ALL the information was gotten from babylon..

God took them to babylon to learn and know who the real God is..
They incorporated some stories of the enuma elish in their scripture like the Noah story.

The LORD of the old testament is MARDUK..

OkCornel:



The light of God... I doubt if any human being can give out light on their own...talk less of the evil one...

OkCornel:


I'll tell you what you want to hear - JESUS

I thought saying God would be explanatory enough...as though Jesus could do anything without the Holy Spirit and the will of God backing it up...

OkCornel:


Bros, I follow the TRUTH...

I have made my stance on Jesus very clear on this thread earlier on...

Emmanystone:

Yes, there's another meaning to ALL FLESH.

There is 'absolutely' ALL and relatively ALL.

There is ALL without exception and ALL without distinction. Meaning, if the ALL used by Joel means Absolutely without exception, everyone in Jerusalem, and Judea entirely, extending to every man living on earth then would have recieved the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost which was evident by speaking in other tongues. The Greeks, Phonicians, Syrians and others nationalities wouldn't be perplexed needing explanations as to the strange occurrence. But, that was not the case, as only 120 persons experienced that when the Holy Ghost came down.

Now, what does the ALL here means? It means ALL without distinction. This means, males, females, children, Jews, Gentiles, This means all classes of peope irrespective of who they are or where they are from. God chose who He wld give his Spirit.

Case in point, Cornelius and his household. He was an Italian who God gave the Holy Ghost, which ordinarily he shouldn't recieve. While in Judea Jews (the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Herodians), and all others missed it.

What this tells us is that, YHWH chooses who He would give His Spirit. It doesn't matter who they are or what they had done. It's just a gift

MrBottle:
I have learnt next to nothing on this thread.
I mean I am utterly confused by the back and forth superiority match of my god is bigger than yours contestants.
Ain't funny

Emmanystone:

And you have not head that satan presents himself to the decieved as an Angel of Light?

Emmanystone:

And you have not head that satan presents himself to the decieved as an Angel of Light?

OkCornel:


This is the confusion that comes with religion or labeling God with names...

It's sad I must say...

OkCornel:


I have put the definition of truth in my previous post to you...

Enoch, Bhudda, myself and you are children of God...

wait a minute, are you of the opinion that man cannot communicate directly with God?