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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Sharonose: 7:48pm On Mar 05, 2018 |
[quote]This is just my honest opinion. You can decide to take it or leave it. I know there are people who love it the way it is but before you crucify me, remember I’m only voicing out my experience of living in Australia for the last 13 months. Melbourne is nothing but a huge disappointment. Run down houses and streets everywhere. The culture of keeping a well kept garden is non existent. An array of ugly old bungalow interspersed with one storied semi modern houses. The cbd looks second world, the suburbs are nothing but disappointing.! Crime is on the increase. I was personally a victim of crime twice within 6 months of arrival. When we arrived we lodged at a bnb, in preparation for moving to the house we rented, we bought a lot of household things, vacuum cleaner, plates, towels etc. When we got home that day, we were tired to pack them out of the car so we left them in the boot of the car. In the morning, everything had disappeared from the boot. Last week Sunday in church, car was parked outside the church premises. We came out to find the car door open. Apparently, someone had tried to open the door to steal something from the car. The alarm was activated when I switched on the ignition. Electricity also went off on two occasions. We slept without light on one of those days. Racial prejudices is high here compared to most countries I have been to. A day hardly passes without racial issues been mentioned in the news. Racial tension everywhere. They still stare at black people as if one is from the moon. This is not so in the whitest of Europe. My kid is enrolled in a school where he’s the only black kid. We make a scene each time I drop him of or pick him up. The Sudanese community isn’t making matters easy. Even though there are criminal elements amongst them, the media over reports and sensationalize crimes committed by black people. This does not help Africans as everyone is viewed as criminals and racially profiled. Let me give you two instances: I went to buy a loaf of bread one night at around 19:00 at a filling station. The attendant refused to open the door. He only opened it when another white customer guy joined me there. Quality of life isn’t fantastic as reported in the media. Internet is as slow as snail. Australia has the slowest internet amongst the first world countries. Malls close at 5:00pm. Limited consumer choice. I couldn’t get blue shoe spray polish to buy anywhere! Most people are renting. Buying a house will take forever as the cost of deposit is often unaffordable for most people. Most people I have met live in shared apartments. It’s really disturbing to find people, (I mean Australians); who have been working for 15 years in Australia living in shared apartments. They cannot afford to rent a whole house talk less of buying one. Most livable city in the world? That’s laughable I don’t want to talk about getting your first job. It’s a huge challenge. The whole skilled immigration is a huge revenue generating business for the Australian government. You won’t realize this until you get here. The beautiful index and statistics issued by world organizations are oftentimes manipulated to their economic benefits. It is a smokescreen that keeps their tourism industry alive. These are countries that understand the importance of PR. They say beautiful things about their countries and encourage people to come and stay by reeling out doctored stats and enhanced images of their countries. It is no secret that immigration business in the so called first world countries is a multi billion dollar industry. To all those who are planning to come here, if you have the money, do an LSD trip first and then decide if you want to stay. Cheers guys! [/ 4 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Vinsmuft(m): 9:38pm On Mar 05, 2018 |
manga5: I remember that I had a similar problem like this with Commonwealth bank. So I went to Westpac and opened a migrant account online from Lagos. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by catchdwind4rmkd(m): 12:05am On Mar 06, 2018 |
Just to add or correct an earlier comment, Contrary to my earlier claim that I'm yet to hear of someone on 476 that got an offer for a professional role, I've just had one this morning from a very well known friend and I was in the know from the first stage of the recruitment through to the final offer... He just got an offer this morning as a Controls Systems Engineer, and he's got no previous experience. The company is willing to train and upskill him for a period. So, in all, your visa has nothing to do with your employability, it's all about you... Sell yourself to prospective employers... And btw, it's worth mentioning that the job is in regional Victoria. Not many professionals would wanna move regional for an award pay. So, regional employers might be willing to make compromises or take their chances on those willing if they can convince them to be a perfect fit. You might wanna add this to your considerations. Best wishes. gcey2k: 4 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by gcey2k(m): 7:06am On Mar 06, 2018 |
catchdwind4rmkd: Wonderful... Very wonderful... Thanks for this Sire... |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by bblessed: 12:14pm On Mar 07, 2018 |
[quote author=FBS post=65334068]Bought 2 Mangoes the other day for $6 and felt like Emmet paying $35 for a cup of coffee in the Lego Movie. And just like Emmet, it's feels absolutely normal. ![]() ![]() If you're in Sydney you can get a box of mangoes for $5 at Sydney fruit market leppington |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by FBS: 2:24am On Mar 08, 2018 |
bblessed:A box of mangoes for $5? No way. I'm talking super large mangoes. How can a box of that cost $5 ![]() |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Nobody: 9:15am On Mar 08, 2018 |
Vinsmuft:Unbelievable. Nigerians dey suffer for white man's land. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Noreal: 10:41am On Mar 08, 2018 |
Please peeps in Oz, must my Ogbona and egusi be grounded Before bringing them in? |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by clitlicker: 9:16am On Mar 09, 2018 |
pls is can anyone in tazmania inform me on how much i can make if i migrate there. if the national minimum wage is 18 dollar can i rely on that with the belief that it is illegal for anyone to pay me below the minimum wage. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by ham334488: 1:05am On Mar 10, 2018 |
Hi everyone , I arrived Adelaide last week and have been trying to getting busy with something but nothing is yet to surface. can anyone help with how to go about getting jobs like security , age care , cleaning , factory work , maintenance engineer and the likes to maintain for the time being. this country is too expensive for one to depend on one source of income . will be very glad to your response thanks in anticipation 1 Like |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Mcslize: 10:15am On Mar 10, 2018 |
ham334488: What visa did you arrive with? I guess it's a student visa. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by PurpleG(f): 3:03pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
ham334488:Pm me for the cleaning job. You need aged care certificate to get aged care jobs. 1 Like |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by foreverkind1(m): 3:27pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
PurpleG:Hello, what part of australia are you ? |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by ham334488: 10:08pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
Mcslize:Sub Class 500 |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by ham334488: 10:09pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
PurpleG:Done |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by DaddyTheFather: 9:03am On Mar 11, 2018 |
Ok...so I am not one of those "landed seniors"...people like malkinburg still senior me for this hustle...I am still finding my way and there are a thousand things I have seen here that I have never even heard of! However...I notice the information on here is sorta skewed towards the big cities (Sydney/Melbourne)...I stay in brisbabe, QLD...so I guess I might have a slightly different perspective... Your departure experience from Nigerian Airport? Well, I went to Sydney via Dubai and Malaysia. Emirates to Malaysia, then air Asia to Sydney. I had to go to Abuja and get a tourist visa to Malaysia, then I actually booked two flight tickets separately to save costs. A bit risky, I think, but it actually allowed me to go out into Kuala Lumpur for a few hours. Beautiful city, I must say, from the little I saw. Had no issues at the Sydney airport. I had a 476 visa, and I guess they could see it in their systems once I checked in. From Sydney, took a train for $90 to Brisbane, cos I had an in law in Brisbane. Been here ever since. Stopover experience? When you landed at the airport? No real experience beyond the beauty of Kuala Lumpur. Seriously, if you have the opportunity, visit that city. I know Nigerians havr a bad rap with drugs and stupid organ sales there, but I went into the city to catch the sights, not become illegal... I will say I did not like Sydney though, even though I am prepared to go there for work if the need arises. Reminded me too much of London. Too many people with their heads down, walking fast and minding their own business. I guess there are people who like that, but I wasn't a fan... I got to see malkinburg and his Mrs as well though. Great guy. Also a lucky guy, with that gem of a woman he's got. You can go places with the right woman by your side in these lands... What are the immigration rules to follow? Not much if you have nothing to hide. Just present your travel documents and answer any questions asked How did you carry all that cash with you? Lol. Did I hear you say "all that cash?!" I was broke as funk when I landed. My Mrs and I literally bet everything on making this move. I barely had $2000 with me, and I carried it in cash that I got from bta. When I landed, I bought some stuff and then went to the bank to open NAB account and put the rest there. Can you open bank account while still in Naija? Yes, you can. NAB allows it, and you can also transfer your funds into the account before landing. Which State/suburb did you settle in and why? Brisbane, first off cos it was far more affordable than the other big cities. Also, my in-law was there. However, I stayed here only due to God's favour. I am an engineer, but I got a graduate role in finance that I never should have gotten with the visa I held at the time. 7 months later, HR actually found out my visa and notified my team lead, but as a Naija boy, I had already made myself indispensable. Now they ask me every other month how my PR app is going just so they can balance their books. The job pays close to Sydney wages, and I don't have Sydney expenses. I might need to move to Sydney or Melbourne in the end (assuming I am still in Australia in the near future), cos as a finance professional, that's where all the good stuff is happening, but for now, my God is supplying my needs. Driving in Australia? How long can you use your Naija driving license before you get Aussie license? Well, I don't really know a lot about this. I know I can drive with my naija license, but once I become a PR, I believe I have Only three months before I have to get QLD license. Doesn't bother me though, cos as soon as I got this my job, I moved very close to my office and now I just walk to work. How easy was it to settle in, with your kids? How did you go about finding the right schools for them? What is their school system like for toddlers (age 5 and below)? This is the part I wish I had a story for...but due to complications in my PR app process, I have been unable to bring the family over. It's hard out Here for a brotha.. NA Can a mother combine work and taking care of the kids? A lot of my colleagues do this. The govt provides a decent amount of support for people in this situation, so it's just a matter of finding out what you're entitled to and maximizing it. What culture shock have you experienced? It's weird, not having to downplay my achievements. By God's grace, I have done well in my job, but for months I kept looking down on my KPIs and saying they could be better, just cos as a Naija boy, no one comes around to praise you for a job well done. You only know you have done well in Nigeria when you get promoted. Here, you are encouraged to document all your achievements, so that when an opportunity for higher duties comes, you have the reciepts to show for it. In an interview, you are required to proudly show these reciepts. That was not easy for me. Also... collegiate environment. Everyone here is your "mate". In fact, mate is like "ehen", "chairman" and "my guy" depending on how it's used. Get used to saying it a lot for your colleagues on the same level or close. For your proper senior ogas, get used to calling them by name. The CEO is Michael, not "Mr Pennisi sir"... Also, don't know if this counts, but be prepared to be considered a refugee till you prove different. In my narrow experience, Australians are not as exposed as other first world countries, and their people are not as cultured as you would expect. Their major experience with black people has been with refugees, so it's not often they are actually confronted with a black person that is more qualified than they are. Never miss a chance to educate an ignorant Aussie when they call you a "Nigerian prince", cos they will. You will be doing the world a big service. Tips on how to cloth and cope with the cold weather Brisbane winters are mild. You can get away with a blazer and sweater most days. Are there Nigerian food/restaurants etc? Are they very expensive? You don't come to Brisbane for the naija food, I can assure you that. I only know one shop that sells naija stuff in Durack, I think. I go there once a month cos I shop only once a month. In this market, you can also take advantage and buy really cheap meats and fish and fresh stuff from the large number of Asians there. I actually go there for the Asians. The naija shop is largely an afterthought. Can one start a business (exportation, consultancy) in Australia? Well, I kept my clothes making contacts going, and I now supply bespoke suits to some of my colleagues...so yeah, if you have something that you can do, go ahead. Just remember to be careful and either pay your taxes on any earnings or hide your tracks well. The ATO does not play around with tax evasion here. A colleague thought she had dodged taxes from years back, till the ATO conducted an audit and sent her a backdated tax bill of $23000. How much does your family survive on in a month? Although my family is not here yet, I have been maintaining a 2 bed apartment for several months (thought PR was imminent. How wrong I was). Including rent and other bills, I basically spend $1600 a month. Note, however, that I am one of those guys that buys everything in bulk once a month and I don't have any vices. Once I go to Costco and Durack at the end of the month and I spend $300 on supplies, that's me done for the month. I have all utilities and set up a direct debit to ensure prompt payment. Also chose Kodi and Netflix for my TV rather than Australian Foxtel or Stan. Foxtel is VERY EXPENSIVE compared to my current set up. And any other ... Please do not fall into the debt trap. There is nothing more dangerous than owing money you cannot pay in a developed country. I advise a lot of Australians every day on debt management, and you find people who have fallen behind on their utility payments, their rent, their mortgage. It is surprisingly easy to become a debtor. Try and only spend what you earn. If you need to make a major purchase, save up or get an interest free credit card and be diligent in your repayments. If you take a loan, ensure it is something you can manage. Be careful with mortgages. I will never advise anyone not to buy a house, but "rent money is dead money" is one of the most overrated sayings I have ever heard in my life. Always remember that your payment will not stop at your mortgage if you own a house. You will pay rates, body corporate, taxes in relation to the home, stamp duty, and all that. Every year. If you're going to do it, don't rush into it just cos you have your 10% and you bank loan officer is sweet talking you. Be very careful with your finances. Also...if you can, move with your family. Australia is no place for a black man/woman to be alone. Not many people around you will share your experiences. I have been here almost 18 months the now and I miss my wife every day. It's not easy. Don't do it if you don't have to. Looking for work is an interesting one. I can't say was works universally, but for me, I learnt from malkinburg. I always knew how to write a decent CV, so I just made a job out of job hunting. I used to wake up at 5am to apply for the most recently posted jobs, just so that my application would be right at the top or near the top of the recruiters when they resume for work in the morning. I would then stay on my PC till 12 noon applying, tailoring my CV to EVERY JOB. I was applying for at least 20 jobs a day. It was slow at first and for the first month I was starting to panic when work no show. I even did door to door sales for a few weeks. But my breakthrough came in my second month when all my applications started turning into interviews. I was attending at least 3 interviews a week in that time, and I ended up changing jobs 3 times in 6 weeks before I settled for where I am. Just be diligent and pray to whatever God you serve. NEVER EVER NEGLECT YOUR SUPERANNUATION! I AM SHOUTING IT NOW! YOUR SUPER IS YOUR RETIREMENT FUND! I work for a super fund, and I can tell you a lot of people get to 50 and start to fear because they don't have good amount in their super. By then it's too late/too risky to invest agressively. Consider consolidating your funds into one super fund. Keep a close eye on how you invest it. Also monitor how your contributions are made. Keep an eye on the contribution caps if you contribute extra or else the ATO will swallow the difference in tax. KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON YOUR INSURANCE! You can have insurance with your super if you like,but be wary cos the premium will come from your super balance. Consider taking out death, disability and income protection insurances. Research all these insurance and the super fund long term performance before you sign up for anything. I have used a lot of key words in the above paragraph. Please take some time to google them, cos I can't break them down for you in detail. And yes, all I have said applies to "landed seniors" as well. At least n this, I can claim to be more knowledgeable than the average person. I don't think I have much else...I don't often post, but I just felt this might be useful for someone out there. Don't be afraid of the smaller cities. There are opportunities here as well... 56 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by DaddyTheFather: 9:29am On Mar 11, 2018 |
catchdwind4rmkd: I came over with a 476 visa, and I am in a professional role. However, my job is in finance, not engineering. Which has worked out fine cos I find now that I enjoy working with money more than I enjoy working with process plants. I did have some difficulties with getting interviews for roles with my 476 visa though, I won't lie about that. As I said earlier, I actually believe that my company was not entirely clear on what sort of visa it was. One thing I did do was make it clear on my CV that I had unlimited right to work, without mentioning what sort of visa I had. If I was asked, I told the truth, but I did not offer it up. I would also recommend trying to get call centre roles. They never seem to run out of vacancies, and they are pretty loose in hiring. Once you're feeding yourself and money is coming in, start aggressively pursuing your PR. Once you have that PR, sky is the limit. 5 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by DaddyTheFather: 9:35am On Mar 11, 2018 |
As much as I agree with pretty much everything you have said, I still think you paint a pretty bleak picture. Australia has its issues, but all things considered, I don't think it's that bad. I do feel though that the black experience in Australia is not as wholesome as it could be in other countries. That's part of why I am also looking to leave. I am worried that my daughter will not have any reference points as a black girl in school. I am happy in my job, but I am not too happy in my life, basically. But for those looking to come, I would always encourage it. Just do not expect things to be easy, I think, is what my friend here is trying to say. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by DaddyTheFather: 10:12am On Mar 11, 2018 |
Nigerians Sha...because AdeyinkaSeun said one small thing that seems to burst the bubble, una wan crucify am. Plus people wey don land and people wey never land join. Nothing he has said is false, and that's a fact. He just sort of paints a disproportionately negative picture, but then again, it is WHAT HE SEES. Asking him to come back to naija rather than spoil your perfect view of the country is childish. I will say it again: he has not told any lies. So for those that have not landed, best to use his post as a cautionary tale, so that you don't fall into the trap of naivety. Come prepared, and don't just toss what he has said aside. His story might sound strange to most of us that have landed, but I am certain that no one who has landed will say it is entirely untrue. Be wise. Also... For those interested, the issue I noticed in my job search with the 476 visa is that recruiters and employers don't seem to know the visa. All they know mostly is PR and 457. Take it upon yourself to educate them during an interview if your visa status comes up. On your CV, just make it clear that you have unlimited working rights. This is what worked for me, and if it works for someone else, than thank God for that. For those going through PR route, especially engineers that need EA assessment, note that the processing times have now gotten ridiculously long. The visa processing time as well with the DIBP has gotten long as well. And the Australian govt is starting to show some anti immigrant sentiment in order to pander to the far right (I am sure I am not the only one here that feels disgust every time I see Peter Dutton's face). The skills list is going to get reviewed again by the end of this financial year. Do all you possibly can to lodge your application before 30 June, or selse, your job may even be taken off this list (chemical and mechanical engineering seem to be at risk of this happening)....move fast. 8 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by IamphilVitalis: 11:33am On Mar 11, 2018 |
For those going through PR route, especially engineers that need EA assessment, note that the processing times have now gotten ridiculously long. The visa processing time as well with the DIBP has gotten long as well. And the Australian govt is starting to show some anti immigrant sentiment in order to pander to the far right (I am sure I am not the only one here that feels disgust every time I see Peter Dutton's face). The skills list is going to get reviewed again by the end of this financial year. Do all you possibly can to lodge your application before 30 June, or selse, your job may even be taken off this list (chemical and mechanical engineering seem to be at risk of this happening)....move fast.[/quote] @daddythefather what other courses are at risk? 1 Like |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by bligs: 2:57pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
DaddyTheFather:If professional accounting and IT ain't taken of the skills list, i see no reason why mechanical engr and chemical engr will be taken of the list, the only thing that can happen is having a very high point before getting an ITA. 1 Like |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by Michaelamo: 6:01pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
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Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by DaddyTheFather: 8:56pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
bligs: Accounting and IT are not at risk, far as I know. All I am saying here are facts, not conjecture. I am a chemical engineer. I can ONLY apply for 189 visas now, cos chemical engineering is of the 190 list. And chemical and mechanical engineering have been under review for years now. Every year, they are at risk of getting removed. I am not saying these to argue or scare anyone. Just to inform and get people to act. @IamPhilVitalis, I'm not sure what other occupations are at risk. That's only cos I don't follow other occupations, only mine and general immigration trends. My suggestion is check all the new skills lists and Google immigration news. See if you can find anything on your own occupation. But more importantly, apply before 30 June. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by IamphilVitalis: 9:23pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
@IamPhilVitalis, I'm not sure what other occupations are at risk. That's only cos I don't follow other occupations, only mine and general immigration trends. My suggestion is check all the new skills lists and Google immigration news. See if you can find anything on your own occupation. But more importantly, apply before 30 June. [/quote] @daddythefather what's the link? |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by bligs: 10:02pm On Mar 11, 2018 |
DaddyTheFather:Risk of getting remove doesn't mean it will be remove, did you know that Victoria is still sponsoring mechanical engineering with at least IELTS of 7 in each band & minimum of three years working experience? The reason why i mentioned Accounting and IT are presently both occupations required a very high point than those you mentioned for ITA and reach occupational ceiling every year yet they aren’t remove. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by catchdwind4rmkd(m): 12:53am On Mar 12, 2018 |
Hi, Thanks for sharing your experiences and advices. It's been very enlightening. I'm, however, curious to know what are your challenges or setbacks with having your PR. Your English skills seem to be very good to me, so I don't see having band 8 to be an issue even if it meant writing it 10 times or even more. And I expect you should have sorted your EA assessment already. You're even lucky enough to have financial security or assurance as early as 2 months in a permanent full-time role. Unfortunately, you can't claim points for your 1yr Australian Work Experience due to your preferred career change. It would really be nice to share your main challenges for not securing your PR and almost letting your 18 months run out. This would be very helpful to current and prospective migrants on 476 to avoid same. Personally, I see the PR as main priority and getting relevant local experience next. Unlike you, my first professional role (though not relevant to my occupation) was on an initial 12 months period with the condition of providing my PR evidence. So, getting the PR wasn't an option but a must. And for what it's worth, I took the English test 5 times. DaddyTheFather: |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by DaddyTheFather: 10:21am On Mar 12, 2018 |
catchdwind4rmkd: Lol...well I don't have any issues with my IELTS. I have 8.5 in both IELTS general and academic, and I have 65 points for my PR application, and I have already applied. There were complications, and the app has been ongoing since last June, but the complications were not to do with my eligibility. Unfortunately, that's all I can tell you in a public forum, cos the application is still under review. I'm fine though, cos if my 476 runs out, my bridging visa attached to the PR application will take effect until the PR decision is made. So if you can apply for your PR before your 476 runs out, I believe that will also be the case with you (assuming you are on a 476 as well). I am hopeful that the PR will be a success for me Sha... |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by DaddyTheFather: 10:27am On Mar 12, 2018 |
bligs: Bro, I'm only trying to get people to act. I know the uncertainty I faced when chemical engineering was at risk of being taken off the list before I applied for my PR. I have never felt such joy as I did the day the new lists came out and I noticed that at least it was still on the 189 list, even if it had been removed from 190. If you think you have time, then more power to you. |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by catchdwind4rmkd(m): 10:28am On Mar 12, 2018 |
Fair enough then. I wasn't asking for myself though as I'm already a resident. Thanks for the little you've let go. Best wishes through it all. DaddyTheFather: |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by DaddyTheFather: 10:44am On Mar 12, 2018 |
catchdwind4rmkd: Sent you a PM sir...if you would be so kind as to acknowledge... |
Re: Living In Australia/life As An Australian Immigrant by foreverkind1(m): 12:17pm On Mar 12, 2018 |
DaddyTheFather:Boss ,are you into finance ? I will be coming to aussie for msc in finance ,with bsc in banking and finance ,will i be able to get Pr with msc in finance ,any idea please ooo |
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