elyte89:



We are talking abt eagles u re mentioning club


I keep saying it... Asyde DT argies match in 2014.

99.9% MUSA performance in GWG SHIRT is an eyesore,so POOR,HE LACKS basic knowledge abt been an attacker, d guy na olodo player,I av not enjoy DT guy a BIT

Be deceiving yourself. I said Kalu and Onyekuru should first achieve what Musa and Moses achieved for their various clubs.

Where did you read national team?


If the Argies match is the only match you think Musa did better then your are on your own.

Kog45:
Speechless cos this is strange.

Very strange. Do you know that one of my past times is to watch and read about football history? Then imagine someone saying enough of the history lessons. Make him chill abeg. Baba fire dey go. If he's not enjoying it, others are.

elyte89:



We are talking abt eagles u re mentioning club


I keep saying it... Asyde DT argies match in 2014.

99.9% MUSA performance in GWG SHIRT is an eyesore,so POOR,HE LACKS basic knowledge abt been an attacker, d guy na olodo player,I av not enjoy DT guy a BIT

how did musa scored 23 goals for SE?

Oasis007:


Pls we should desist from over-hyping our Players! Matic and Ndidi in the same Bracket?! Lawd...... that's kinda too much coz they ain't mate on the Pitch.

Guests viewing this Thread would think we are bunch of Fanatics or Comedians. We should allow the Lad to keep improving instead of hyping him.

Did we forget Matic has proven himself also in another elite League aside from EPL?! Do I need to remind Dudes here that Matic is presently the Heartbeat of the most successful Club in the EPL?!

I repeat - Matic and Ndidi are in different Class, the same way United States and Korea Republic ain't in the same League. A world class Player ain't the same with a developing Player.

indidi at 21 is better than matic at 21
EOD

elyte89:




D reason for his commitment is not far fetched..... It's for his personal glory to revive his career.I can bet u if rohr achieves d insurmountable task of getting us into d S/FINAL OF WORLD CUP.he would dump us and go for a better package,maybe a top club in Bundesliga or a top country ,and he can achieve his goal with dis present job if luck is on his side

So apart from comedy, you also into prophecy. Hmmmmm man of many part you surely are.

LZAA:

again prozone numbers are excellent but they dont tell the whole story

What exactly is this 'full story'?

Matic is a bigger player only by name, that's all. Ndidi right now compares with the best in the world in his position and he is still improving.

maidaboi:
indidi at 21 is better than matic at 21
EOD

Where are the Stats to backup the Submission?!

tbaba1234:


What exactly is this 'full story'?

Matic is a bigger player only by name, that's all. Ndidi right now compares with the best in the world in his position and he is still improving.

full story being that football isn't all about stats
matic is not a bigger player only by name,he made his bones in benfica and returned to chelsea and proved it.
whoaaaa u really have to slow down there bruv
matuidi,matic,jorginho,naby keita all play in ndidi's position
also note i didn't say he aint good enough,i said he's not at matic's level

maidaboi:
how did musa scored 23 goals for SE?

WC 23goals for SE,boss maidaboi u fall my hand



Hope u re not counting GOALS SCORED IN TRAINING MATCHES AS REAL GOALS,where MEDIOCRE MUSA WAN c 23goals for eagles, O FE JI NI? ,
Scored just 13goals in 7years for d national team

Oasis007:




Where are the Stats to backup the Submission?!

the question should be where was matic at 21?

forgiveness:


What has Kalu won for Gent? Yes, he is good but he has done nothing to attract attention. How many individual trophy has he been nominated for?


Onyekuru stats is like Yakubu Aiyegbeni scoring here and there without any medal to show for it.

Let Onyekuru use his goals to win something then we can begin to compare him with Simon Moses who has entered into the history books of Gent and Belgium pro league as the man who singlehandedly won the first Belgium pro league for Gent.

Bro you are right but it seems you are against kalu and onyekuru,please don't judge them just because they haven't won anything with their various club,and mind you the season Moses Simon won the league he came around January which is half season,back to onyekuru,what do you want onyekuru to win with eupen? a newly promoted team in his first season there where he scored 24 goals,you can't compare them to gent,Gent has always being a top club in Belgium,don't judge those players because they have not won trophies,what do you expect onyekuru to win for anderletch also ?and he is already injured,stop judging football like that,you sound as if you are against kalu and onyekuru....Comming from a Moses Simon fan boy

maidaboi:
the question should be where was matic at 21?

I love this thread,guys keep it up,very informative

tbaba1234:


Really? He was playing but was he in form??

See question.

It is like asking if Ndidi and Etebor are in form.

elyte89:



Stop mentioning Musa...wetin d guy achieve asyde making 1st eleven under mediocre coaches....I no like DT musa guy at all,very predictable in his style,so myopic,erratic in his performance, just too poor as an attacker,his final third ball is disastrous, I support boss chriskel on dis,if I were to b d coach,he won't smell my bench, let alone of making d 23man list

Bros Ahmed musa has won 3 Russia league and he was crucial in cska winning those league ,he also won 1 Russia cup and 2 Russia super cup,so you can see he has achieve.

Cska Moscow and musa won this leagues title despite the big spending power of zenith St. Petersburg

Mujtahida:

Very strange. Do you know that one of my past times is to watch and read about football history? Then imagine someone saying enough of the history lessons. Make him chill abeg. Baba fire dey go. If he's not enjoying it, others are.

....telling tbaba1234 to stop the discussion that was centred on analytical views with great comments from tbaba1234, Thegoodjoe,icon4s, forgiveness and Kog45 that centred around 2014 WC team.

I don't believe a member of this thread would come out and said such discussion is irrelevant cos this thread is for 2018 WC and 2019 Afcon.

I tire o.

LZAA:

hmmm whole of europe u say?
so jorginho has ??

Ndidi is the highest in Europe.

Ndidi is averaging 4.2 tackles every game.
Jorginho is averaging 1.6..

andrew444:


Bro you are right but it seems you are against kalu and onyekuru,please don't judge them just because they haven't won anything with their various club,and mind you the season Moses Simon won the league he came around January which is half season,back to onyekuru,what do you want onyekuru to win with eupen? a newly promoted team in his first season there where he scored 24 goals,you can't compare them to gent,Gent has always being a top club in Belgium,don't judge those players because they have not won trophies,what do you expect onyekuru to win for anderletch also ?and he is already injured,stop judging football like that,you sound as if you are against kalu and onyekuru....Comming from a Moses Simon fan boy

Yes, agreed. Simon Moses came in January but we know he won 4 - 6 MOTM within that period. That tells alot about him.

Besides, I have nothing against Kalu and Onyekuru. I just setting things straight.

It's indeed my joy to have many players fighting for one slot but I will not overlook put him syndrome.

Kog45:
I love this thread,guys keep it up,very informative

sir, matic at 21 couldn't perform in the epl has to be shifted to holland
the way guys underate our players sometimes is annoying and any small thing the will say we are hyping the player. smh

Haha!! Bros, I hope you're either in legal or public relations profession. Or else, I'd say you're in the wrong job.


O pari

edi287:

He didn't have a good tournament. Neither did Mikel.

tbaba1234:


Ndidi is the highest in Europe.

Ndidi is averaging 4.2 tackles every game.
Jorginho is averaging 1.6..

yet top teams are mentioning jorginho while few are looking at ndidi
see what i said about stats
they never tell the whole story
stats are deceptive
klopp sounded like a clown after reeling off stats but anyone who watched dt match knows liverpool were well beaten

elyte89:



WC 23goals for SE,boss maidaboi u fall my hand



Hope u re not counting GOALS SCORED IN TRAINING MATCHES AS REAL GOALS,where MEDIOCRE MUSA WAN c 23goals for eagles, O FE JI NI? ,
Scored just 13goals in 7years for d national team

may be somebody score the 13 goals and we mistake it for musa since he has only score 2 goals

maidaboi:
the question should be where was matic at 21?

At 21 Matic was at Chelsea and he won FA Cup with them!

I was referring to both. Not sure what form he was referring to tho


O pari

forgiveness:
.

Is he talking about his form during the world cup or his form prior to the world Cup?

I am not understanding.

Kog45:
....telling tbaba1234 to stop the discussion that was centred on analytical views with great comments from tbaba1234, Thegoodjoe,icon4s, forgiveness and Kog45 that centred around 2014 WC team.

I don't believe a member of this thread would come out and said such discussion is irrelevant cos this thread is for 2018 WC and 2019 Afcon.

I tire o.

He is fond of doing that sort of clamp down. Once when we were discussing something not related to football, he shooed us. At least our discussion that day wasn't football related but I don't understand his gag order for today's discussion. I guess he doesn't have something to contribute on the matter. If that's the case why not scroll and read what interest you here. Na wa

Oasis007:


Pls we should desist from over-hyping our Players! Matic and Ndidi in the same Bracket?! Lawd...... that's kinda too much coz they ain't mate on the Pitch.

Guests viewing this Thread would think we are bunch of Fanatics or Comedians. We should allow the Lad to keep improving instead of hyping him.

Did we forget Matic has proven himself also in another elite League aside from EPL?! Do I need to remind Dudes here that Matic is presently the Heartbeat of the most successful Club in the EPL?!

I repeat - Matic and Ndidi are in different Class, the same way United States and Korea Republic ain't in the same League. A world class Player ain't the same with a developing Player.

Bros ndidi is 21 and matic is 29,at 21 matic was at a Slovakia club before Chelsea got him,he managed only 2 appearance,he was used in a swap deal plus 25 million to get David Luis from benfica,ndidi is among the top 5 or 10 most valuable player in Africa and the most valuable young player in africa,ndidi is valuable than frank kessie of ac millan,that will say a lot about him

LZAA:

full story being that football isn't all about stats
matic is not a bigger player only by name,he made his bones in benfica and returned to chelsea and proved it.
whoaaaa u really have to slow down there bruv
matuidi,matic,jorginho,naby keita all play in ndidi's position
also note i didn't say he aint good enough,i said he's not at matic's level

How many leagues did Kante play for? If you are good, you are good. Ndidi is producing numbers close to Kante's league winning season with Leicester and he is still young.

We have a world class player developing in front of our eyes and we are trying to underrate him.

Matic is world class and of a bigger stature but Ndidi right now is as good any DM out there in terms of breaking of play. Matic is a much better passer of the ball.

forgiveness:



Yes, agreed. Simon Moses came in January but we know he won 4 - 6 MOTM within that period. That tells alot about him.

Besides, I have nothing against Kalu and Onyekuru. I just setting things straight.

It's indeed my joy to have many players fighting for one slot but I will not overlook put him syndrome.

Yes and he also scored about 2 hat trick but please don't judge this guys with trophies,as someone said earlier here,Steven Gerard has never won a premier league title with his years at Liverpool,does that make drinkwater who won it with leichester better than him? Not at all.

Forgiveness, give it up! There's no comparison between the 2012 Ramon Azeez and the 2017/18 Wilfred Ndidi or Oghenekaro Etebo.

And please check your records, Ndidi and Etebor did not use the national team to get game time in Europe either; so I don't know what point you were trying to make.


O pari

forgiveness:


Which level is Ndidi and Etebor?

Ramon Azeez didn't use the national team to get game time in la Liga as the aforementioned players did.

Please, tell me the level they are now.

maidaboi:
sir, matic at 21 couldn't perform in the epl has to be shifted to holland
the way guys underate our players sometimes is annoying and any small thing the will say we are hyping the player. smh

first of vitesse is to chelsea what royal antwerp is to man u ie a feeder club
also ballack,lampard and deco were running chelsea's midfield at the time so there was no way a young matic was ever going to just stroll into that midfield
also isn't ur argument about ndidi currently better than matic?
as per underrating our players well so many ppl are falling into the trap that the english just got out off
our players are too inconsistent.

andrew444:


Bros ndidi is 21 and matic is 29,at 21 matic was at a Slovakia club before Chelsea got him,he managed only 2 appearance,he was used in a swap deal plus 25 million to get David Luis from benfica,ndidi is among the top 5 or 10 most valuable player in Africa and the most valuable young player in africa,ndidi is valuable than frank kessie of ac millan,that will say a lot about him

cc
oasis007

LZAA:

yet top teams are mentioning jorginho while few are looking at ndidi
see what i said about stats
they never tell the whole story
stats are deceptive
klopp sounded like a clown after reeling off stats but anyone who watched dt match knows liverpool were well beaten

I read a report today about Barca chasing Ndidi in the summer. It might be nothing but clubs are certainly watching.

If an English player is posting the kind of numbers, Ndidi is at the moment, the hype will be crazy.

tbaba1234:


How many leagues did Kante play for? If you are good, you are good. Ndidi is producing numbers close to Kante's league winning season with Leicester and he is still young.

We have a world class player developing in front of our eyes and we are trying to underrate him.

Matic is world class and of a bigger stature but Ndidi right now is as good any DM out there in terms of breaking of play. Matic is a much better passer of the ball.

"Ndidi is producing numbers close to Kante's league winning season with Leicester and he is still young"
see what i am saying
u are still holding on to stats
a player in ndidi's role is never ever defined by just stats