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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:49pm On Mar 13, 2018
Actually, Ndidi at 21 is better than Matic at 29. Take it or leave it!

Matic has slowed down tremendously, coupled with his natural lack of pace. This is not the Nemanja Matic of 3 or 4 years ago.


O pari

maidaboi:
indidi at 21 is better than matic at 21
EOD

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:52pm On Mar 13, 2018
LZAA:

first of vitesse is to chelsea what royal antwerp is to man u ie a feeder club
also ballack,lampard and deco were running chelsea's midfield at the time so there was no way a young matic was ever going to just stroll into that midfield
also isn't ur argument about ndidi currently better than matic?
as per underrating our players well so many ppl are falling into the trap that the english just got out off
our players are too inconsistent.
indidi at 21 is better than matic at 21 and 29 EOD

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by congo4ka: 7:52pm On Mar 13, 2018
cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:53pm On Mar 13, 2018
Mujtahida:

Why are you fond of breaking up play? So you don't think that there's a historical side to 2018 WC and 2019 Afcon. Did these two tournaments start or will get started in 2018 and 2019? Allow people yarn abeg. If you don't enjoy the history lessons, skip it. That's your liberty. You can't put a gag on others and say this is the limit of what they can discuss particularly since they are still within the confines of Nigerian football.
when I no be Wilfred Ndidi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 7:53pm On Mar 13, 2018
tbaba1234:


I read a report today about Barca chasing Ndidi in the summer. It might be nothing but clubs are certainly watching.

If an English player is posting the kind of numbers, Ndidi is at the moment, the hype will be crazy.
agents put out silly stories in the papers evry once in a while to generate interest in their clients(All agents do this) and to drive their wages up.
that's the difference,he ain't english so why should he be hyped up?
kimmich and sule put in similar numbers in germany and don't get hyped
stats are just used to track fitness by serious coaches
only jokers take them serious

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:55pm On Mar 13, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
when I no be Wilfred Ndidi
Hahahaha hahahaha. Your tackling stats here na die
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:55pm On Mar 13, 2018
Icon79:
Actually, Ndidi at 21 is better than Matic at 29. Take it or leave it!

Matic has slowed down tremendously, coupled with his natural lack of pace. This is not the Nemanja Matic of 3 or 4 years ago.


O pari

yea matic of 3 to 4years ago is better than indidi at 21
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:56pm On Mar 13, 2018
LZAA:

"Ndidi is producing numbers close to Kante's league winning season with Leicester and he is still young"
see what i am saying
u are still holding on to stats
a player in ndidi's role is never ever defined by just stats

Please define what they are held by?

It has to something.. Their passing ability, their goalscoring, their defending... each of these things are backed up by stats. Yes, it might not tell the full story but it is certainly more objective than feelings.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:57pm On Mar 13, 2018
LZAA:

agents put out silly stories in the papers evry once in a while to generate interest in their clients(All agents do this) and to drive their wages up.
that's the difference,he ain't english so why should he be hyped up?
kimmich and sule put in similar numbers in germany and don't get hyped
stats are just used to track fitness by serious coaches
only jokers take them serious

That means, we do not know the real interests until the summer. The rest is transfer rumor..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:00pm On Mar 13, 2018
Toyin Ibitoye confirms Ebuehi's Availability

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 8:01pm On Mar 13, 2018
That I would agree. That version of Matic was a beast. Sentenced John Obi Mikel to a semi retirement on da bench sad


O pari

maidaboi:
yea matic of 3 to 4years ago is better than indidi at 21
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 8:02pm On Mar 13, 2018
Great news. I would really wanna see him in action against both Poland and Serbia.


O pari

tbaba1234:
Toyin Ibitoye confirms Ebuehi's Availability

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 8:17pm On Mar 13, 2018
LZAA:

yet top teams are mentioning jorginho while few are looking at ndidi
see what i said about stats
they never tell the whole story
stats are deceptive
klopp sounded like a clown after reeling off stats but anyone who watched dt match knows liverpool were well beaten
barcelona are mentioning indidi its agents but... Jorginho is not agents
chai..! Double standard

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:20pm On Mar 13, 2018
andrew444:


Bros ndidi is 21 and matic is 29,at 21 matic was at a Slovakia club before Chelsea got him,he managed only 2 appearance,he was used in a swap deal plus 25 million to get David Luis from benfica,ndidi is among the top 5 or 10 most valuable player in Africa and the most valuable young player in africa,ndidi is valuable than frank kessie of ac millan,that will say a lot about him

grin

That's the problem with majority of us here - twisting. The Argument initially was Ndidi is better than Matic at the moment.

Is Ndidi better than Matic at the moment for real?! Maidaboi chipped in Age simply to get a cheap Point.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:23pm On Mar 13, 2018
Oasis007:


grin

That's the problem with majority of us here - twisting. The Argument initially was Ndidi is better than Matic at the moment.

Is Ndidi better than Matic at the moment for real?! Maidaboi chipped in Age simply to get a cheap Point.

Who dey compare ndidi and matic ? I am just making an example for you not to compare a 21 year old kid to a 29 year old matic.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:25pm On Mar 13, 2018
andrew444:


Who dey compare ndidi and matic ? I am just making an example for you not to compare a 21 year old kid to a 29 year old matic.

grin

Dude.... did you read the previous Pages?! Ndidi is rated as a better Player than Matic at the moment which I objected!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 8:27pm On Mar 13, 2018
Oasis007:


grin

That's the problem with majority of us here - twisting. The Argument initially was Ndidi is better than Matic at the moment.

Is Ndidi better than Matic at the moment for real?! Maidaboi chipped in Age simply to get a cheap Point.
indidi is ahead presently when its comes to dm bro EOD

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:30pm On Mar 13, 2018
Oasis007:


grin

Dude.... did you read the previous Pages?! Ndidi is rated as a better Player than Matic at the moment which I objected!

Ndidi is not better than matic o,matic is already a world class player and ndidi is not there yet

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 8:41pm On Mar 13, 2018
maidaboi:
barcelona are mentioning indidi its agents but... Jorginho is not agents
chai..! Double standard
and wia did i say so
mino raiola did the same with most of his players as with jorge mendes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:42pm On Mar 13, 2018
Oasis007:


grin

That's the problem with majority of us here - twisting. The Argument initially was Ndidi is better than Matic at the moment.

Is Ndidi better than Matic at the moment for real?! Maidaboi chipped in Age simply to get a cheap Point.

At the moment, on form, Ndidi is as good as any DM out there, including Matic.

Matic can be grouped as 'world class' based on previous achievements and Ndidi has not yet gained that level of acclaim and is still developing as a player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 8:44pm On Mar 13, 2018
tbaba1234:


Please define what they are held by?

It has to something.. Their passing ability, their goalscoring, their defending... each of these things are backed up by stats. Yes, it might not tell the full story but it is certainly more objective than feelings.
no football manager buys players by stats
none
they look at ur ability and what u add to the team
lemme give u an example
if cr7 was wanted by psg for example and dy decided to use his stats for the first hallf of this season as d deciding factor,would dy have bought him?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 8:47pm On Mar 13, 2018
maidaboi:
indidi at 21 is better than matic at 21 and 29 EOD
well players develop at different rates
harry kane had tons of loan spells before he became a global star
jamie vardy until very recently was playing non league footie
again wasnt ur argument that ndidi is CURRENTLY better than matic grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 8:50pm On Mar 13, 2018
maidaboi:
may be somebody score the 13 goals and we mistake it for musa since he has only score 2 goals
No, he scored against Mali at Afcon l think.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:53pm On Mar 13, 2018
LZAA:

no football manager buys players by stats
none
they look at ur ability and what u add to the team
lemme give u an example
if cr7 was wanted by psg for example and dy decided to use his stats for the first hallf of this season as d deciding factor,would dy have bought him?

That is untrue. Ronaldo is known globally, buying Ronaldo is completely different from buying a prospect.

Scouts analyze every part of a player's game including their stats before making recommendations.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:58pm On Mar 13, 2018
maidaboi:
indidi is ahead presently when its comes to dm bro EOD

grin


Cc Tbaba1234, Andrew444
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 8:58pm On Mar 13, 2018
LZAA:

agents put out silly stories in the papers evry once in a while to generate interest in their clients(All agents do this) and to drive their wages up.
that's the difference,he ain't english so why should he be hyped up?
kimmich and sule put in similar numbers in germany and don't get hyped
stats are just used to track fitness by serious coaches
only jokers take them serious
So you think Barca cannot chase Ndidi? Matic is just a bigger and more popular player. Ndidi at 21 is certainly a better defensive midfielder than Matic is, except in making timely passes like someone said earlier.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 9:02pm On Mar 13, 2018
andrew444:


Ndidi is not better than matic o,matic is already a world class player and ndidi is not there yet
Ndidi can be reffered to as a world class midfielder already.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 9:05pm On Mar 13, 2018
Oasis007:


grin


Cc Tbaba1234, Andrew444
l agree with that guy, Ndidi is currently ahead in that role presently.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 9:07pm On Mar 13, 2018
LZAA:

agents put out silly stories in the papers evry once in a while to generate interest in their clients(All agents do this) and to drive their wages up.
that's the difference,he ain't english so why should he be hyped up?
kimmich and sule put in similar numbers in germany and don't get hyped
stats are just used to track fitness by serious coaches
only jokers take them serious
I agree with your stance in this discuss. Ndidi still has a lot to learn, long pass accuracy, fast transitions, shot accuracy.... Do you know he is the worst players in terms of shooting accuracy in the EPL... the guy who has taken the highest number of shots without scoring... Make we calm down for the hype abeg... Ndidi still de grow and even on present form cannot and will not bench matic.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:07pm On Mar 13, 2018
Daejoyoung:

Ndidi can be reffered to as a world class midfielder already.

Almost a worldclass player,don't call him that yet okay,but he is almost there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 9:12pm On Mar 13, 2018
Daejoyoung:

l agree with that guy, Ndidi is currently ahead in that role presently.

grin

Alright Sir!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 9:18pm On Mar 13, 2018
tbaba1234:


At the moment, on form, Ndidi is as good as any DM out there, including Matic.

Matic can be grouped as 'world class' based on previous achievements and Ndidi has not yet gained that level of acclaim and is still developing as a player.
I beg to disagree Sir. Ndidi is not as good as fernandinho, Fred, jorginho, casemerio, busquets, Gabi, Can, vidal, khedira... I can keep naming them... Put him in an attacking team and he's deficiencies will show.. He has a lot to learn.

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