tbaba1234:


That is untrue. Ronaldo is known globally, buying Ronaldo is completely different from buying a prospect.

Scouts analyze every part of a player's game including their stats before making recommendations.

For your last paragraph just watch 'number's game'. It's on YouTube. You absolutely correct.

Mujtahida:

For your last paragraph just watch 'number's game'. It's on YouTube. You absolutely correct.

Thanks, I will

Ola Aina with an assist today

I have learnt to stop comparing our players to their foreign counterparts. Simply because they're not on the same WAVELENGHT and so I can never judge them by the same FREQUENCY.

The difference is clear and obvious. The difference is NATIONALITY and NATIONALITY ALONE.

We're always trying to compare Nigeria players with those players from S.America, Europe etc when we all know that the FIELD OF PLAY IS NEVER FAIR AND EVEN.

A certain coach came on board and gave a relatively unknown player from S.America a call and the next was history.

If Ndidi was to be a European or a S.American, no one will be here discussing this. The Main Stream media would have pass their verdict on his quality.

To those who never believe in the quality of our players, I say put other top DMs(the Kroos, the Casemiros, etc) in leicester and let's see if they'll churn out the same numbers Ndidi is producing week in week out.

I have come to appreciate the work our boys are putting everyweek in Europe to keep the our flag flying.

I know someday, verysoon, we'll silent every doubters. Those who never believe any good thing can come out of NIGERIA.

I rest my case

tbaba1234:


The guy topped the Europa League in stats when he was in Genk averaging 7 tackles a game.

He is currently topping the whole of Europe... What was Kante doing in Leicester?? Was he scoring screamers or dribbling or giving great assists??

An English man or a Brazilian doing this will be hyped to high heavens..

For God sakes what was Kante doing? If it's our own a little star dust sprinkled on the player's head and people say '' heyyyy be careful, don't make him a god just yet'

As africans we believe anything white is better than black, ndidi and matic needs no comparison because ndidi is far more better than him currently.

Someone said matic pushed mikel out of chelsea, which signifies that he is better than mikel, this is pure falacy, in no way will matic be better than mikel both stats or by trophies won.

I rest my case.

Mujtahida:

For God sakes what was Kante doing? If it's our own a little star dust sprinkled on the player's head and people say '' heyyyy be careful, don't make him a god just yet'

Kante was doing the exact same thing.. I remember Makalele too.. The exact same thing..

Not known for dribbles or passing.. Just breaking up play..

tbaba1234:
Ola Aina with an assist today

good one there!

tbaba1234:

Did you see Joel at Inter?

yea and he was at d same level as mariga at inter bang average with occasional brilliance

LZAA:

joel obi has really improved at torino
sone aluko shld get a look in

JOEL has always been there. Injury has always been his problem.

Happy he is getting over it. Thanks to Torino F.C. They're doing a great job in managing his injury woes

LZAA:

lol
but evryone on this thread keeps bringing up ndidi's stats and dats wat im trying to say
stats play a very small role in a player's purchase and by stats i mean the silly prozone types like most tackles,distance covered etc
many top level players fail beep tests all over the world yet still play for big teams

In Trump's voice 'wrong'. I repeat I don't like stats but today's football is ruled not by footballers but by stats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLcXH_4rwr4

LZAA:

yea and he was at d same level as mariga at inter
bang average with occasional brilliance

The boy has just been plagued by injury.. His potential was massive at Inter...

AIG07:
I have learnt to stop comparing our players to their foreign counterparts. Simply because they're not on the same WAVELENGHT and so I can never judge them by the same FREQUENCY.

The difference is clear and obvious. The difference is NATIONALITY and NATIONALITY ALONE.

We're always trying to compare Nigeria players with those players from S.America, Europe etc when we all know that the FIELD OF PLAY IS NEVER FAIR AND EVEN.

A certain coach came on board and gave a relatively unknown player from S.America a call and the next was history.

If Ndidi was to be a European or a S.American, no one will be here discussing this. The Main Stream media would have pass their verdict on his quality.

To those who never believe in the quality of our players, I say put other top DMs(the Kroos, the Casemiros, etc) in leicester and let's see if they'll churn out the same numbers Ndidi is producing week in week out.

I have come to appreciate the work our boys are putting everyweek in Europe to keep the our flag flying.

I know someday, verysoon, we'll silent every doubters. Those who never believe any good thing can come out of NIGERIA.

I rest my case

lol.... Quality is quality irrespective of nationality... Ask George weah or toure, Drogba, eto to name but a few.... If you don't measure yourself against international standard how do you develop.... We go meet for world cup na.... It is not rocket science why s. America and Europe dominate the world cup.... They are the best in terms of football.... Take it or leave it. . That is the reality.... To be the best you have to beat the best.... For ndidi to be rated a top quality dm he has to perform better than he's American and European counterparts... O pari

tbaba1234:


I would not be surprised if Ndidi secures a big move at the end of this season.

Kante in the premier league winning season had only 1 goal and 4 assists. Kante was certainly not there for his passing ability or goalscoring.

Ndidi already has 3 assists this season.

When Makalele redefined the DM position how many goals did he score, how many sublime passes did he thread through defences, how about dribbles? He was basically a defender in the midfield. Shikena and he excelled in it. That alone stood him out.

AIG07:
I have learnt to stop comparing our players to their foreign counterparts. Simply because they're not on the same WAVELENGHT and so I can never judge them by the same FREQUENCY.

The difference is clear and obvious. The difference is NATIONALITY and NATIONALITY ALONE.

We're always trying to compare Nigeria players with those players from S.America, Europe etc when we all know that the FIELD OF PLAY IS NEVER FAIR AND EVEN.

A certain coach came on board and gave a relatively unknown player from S.America a call and the next was history.

If Ndidi was to be a European or a S.American, no one will be here discussing this. The Main Stream media would have pass their verdict on his quality.

To those who never believe in the quality of our players, I say put other top DMs(the Kroos, the Casemiros, etc) in leicester and let's see if they'll churn out the same numbers Ndidi is producing week in week out.

I have come to appreciate the work our boys are putting everyweek in Europe to keep the our flag flying.

I know someday, verysoon, we'll silent every doubters. Those who never believe any good thing can come out of NIGERIA.

I rest my case

if pep manages a non league side he will struggle
same for mourinho and klopp
top players make coaching easy
as per nationality wow i didn't know that drogba,salah,weah and eto'o were europeans or south american
and as for sumtin gud coming out of nigeria then kanu,amuneke,okocha and oliseh were bad then?

tbaba1234:


The boy has just been plagued by injury.. His potential was massive at Inter...

true true but potential doesnt always translate to success

eterisan:
bros you didn't answer the question o

Cos it's hypothetical not factual.

Mujtahida:

In Trump's voice 'wrong'. I repeat I don't like stats but today's football is ruled not by footballers but by stats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLcXH_4rwr4

for pundits,fans and fitness coaches yes they do
for serious managers no
ancelotti had d worst stats as a player in milan yet sacchi signed him

Mujtahida:

Cos it's hypothetical not factual.

smiles...... I been wan hook the bros.... He dodge... No wahala.... We all wish ndidi the best.... Infact I am very happy for him and prays he earns a good move and wins trophies... But first he has to improve to that international, top quality dm standard.... U dig

Mujtahida:

Hahahaha hahahaha. Stats have antecedents. So yes they'd still look at him cos reference can always be made to his previous stats. I hate stats and all. But forget it, today's game is for numbers. It's the players with the numbers who rules. If in comparison to others Ndidi is producing numbers then why not give it to him when those same numbers is used to judge others. Go to youtube and watch fourfour two video titled number's game.

four four two is a english magazine
english football until wenger's arrival had players drinking the way u and me drink beer and eating chips
d tinz english football celebrate were already basic in italy,spain and france ages ago
d number tingy bcame popular in the early 2000s and opta and prozone are fairly recent

eterisan:
lol.... Quality is quality irrespective of nationality... Ask George weah or toure, Drogba, eto to name but a few.... If you don't measure yourself against international standard how do you develop.... We go meet for world cup na.... It is not rocket science why s. America and Europe dominate the world cup.... They are the best in terms of football.... Take it or leave it. . That is the reality.... To be the best you have to beat the best.... For ndidi to be rated a top quality dm he has to perform better than he's American and European counterparts... O pari

Point is if his counterpart do so much as he's doing they'd get more than enough credit. I am not one for using terms like world class to describe our players. I don't see racism but then there's a reality you are not aware of. It's harder for black players. They have to be twice as good to get even their names mentioned. Drogba and the rest are the ones no one could do otherwise. They were not good. They were too good.

Mujtahida:

Point is if his counterpart do so much as he's doing they'd get more than enough credit. I am not one for using terms like world class to describe our players. I don't see racism but then there's a reality you are not aware of. It's harder for black players. They have to be twice as good to get even their names mentioned. Drogba and the rest are the ones no one could do otherwise. They were not good. They were too good.

it all boils down to fifa rating, work permit issues... Bla Bla Bla... Probably Im going too far... But trust fifa standard they rule the game.... If we africans want to be the best... We beat the best... Besides we leave our country to go play there and you say they are not the best.... It's harder for black players because we are not the best... It's simple.... No inferiority complex here... Else why don't African teams run over Europeans nd Americans at the world cup.... We should change the way we think.... Accept where we are in the grand scheme of things and strive to grow from there....

LZAA:

four four two is a english magazine
english football until wenger's arrival had players drinking the way u and me drink beer and eating chips
d tinz english football celebrate were already basic in italy,spain and france ages ago
d number tingy bcame popular in the early 2000s and opta and prozone are fairly recent

Attack the message not the nationality of the messenger. What difference would it have made if the assertion was coming from a French magazine. Does stats rule today's football or not. Forget about football trends in Italy, Spain or France. We will discuss that some other time. Question is what is the single and overriding consideration across the board in today's football? Stats! Pure stats.

eterisan:
lol.... Quality is quality irrespective of nationality... Ask George weah or toure, Drogba, eto to name but a few.... If you don't measure yourself against international standard how do you develop.... We go meet for world cup na.... It is not rocket science why s. America and Europe dominate the world cup.... They are the best in terms of football.... Take it or leave it. . That is the reality.... To be the best you have to beat the best.... For ndidi to be rated a top quality dm he has to perform better than he's American and European counterparts... O pari

wait... Question for you.
How do you know a Quality player?

So since more teams are talking of signing Salah ryt now does dat make him better Dan a Messi?... Is dat any way to analyse class bros... Nawao

LZAA:

yet top teams are mentioning jorginho while few are looking at ndidi
see what i said about stats
they never tell the whole story
stats are deceptive
klopp sounded like a clown after reeling off stats but anyone who watched dt match knows liverpool were well beaten

Watching the game brings a broader dimension when analyzing. Thanks tbaba.

Some people just use google and Wikipedia and think they know it all.

tbaba1234:


Even taking the injury into consideration, Samuel has played only 4 games more than Simon so they are certainly comparable.

I watch their games regularly. Samuel Kalu has been involved in more goals than Simon.

LZAA:

if pep manages a non league side he will struggle
same for mourinho and klopp
top players make coaching easy
as per nationality wow i didn't know that drogba,salah,weah and eto'o were europeans or south american
and as for sumtin gud coming out of nigeria then kanu,amuneke,okocha and oliseh were bad then?

understanding the context in which the message is been relayed will help. You can go over it again.

eterisan:
it all boils down to fifa rating, work permit issues... Bla Bla Bla... Probably Im going too far... But trust fifa standard they rule the game.... If we africans want to be the best... We beat the best... Besides we leave our country to go play there and you say they are not the best.... It's harder for black players because we are not the best... It's simple.... No inferiority complex here... Else why don't African teams run over Europeans nd Americans at the world cup.... We should change the way we think.... Accept where we are in the grand scheme of things and strive to grow from there....

Not so simple as you think. Never said their counterparts are not the best. Just telling you black players have to do so much to earn just a little recognition. This black thing has grades ooo. Blacks from say France are treated better than Blacks from say cameroun

With a meagre 2 appearances? Nawao

Oasis007:


At 21 Matic was at Chelsea and he won FA Cup with them!

AIG07:
wait... Question for you.
How do you know a Quality player?

thank you for this question... We got different types of quality... World class, average, bang average, shhht etc.... The stats tells the story... Type of team, team contribution, trophies.. There are so many parameters used to measure quality.... Ndidi for me is just outside the bracket of top quality dm.... He is not there yet.... When he improves he's attacking qualities then we can talk.... You can't call him world class based on he's tackling stats alone.... I Pray he gets there

AIG07:
understanding the context in which the message is been relayed will help. You can go over it again.

ohk

Mujtahida:

Not so simple as you think. Never said their counterparts are not the best. Just telling you black players have to do so much to earn just a little recognition. This black thing has grades ooo. Blacks from say France are treated better than Blacks from say cameroun

oga you be lawyer na.... If you nor measure up to nba standard will you be called to bar.... Again if you never improve and upgrade can you serve at the international court... Mek we leave this racism black thing.... Quality is quality... There is always a standard to be met...