Lucque:
So since more teams are talking of signing Salah ryt now does dat make him better Dan a Messi?... Is dat any way to analyse class bros... Nawao

eterisan:
smiles...... I been wan hook the bros.... He dodge... No wahala.... We all wish ndidi the best.... Infact I am very happy for him and prays he earns a good move and wins trophies... But first he has to improve to that international, top quality dm standard.... U dig

eterisan:
it all boils down to fifa rating, work permit issues... Bla Bla Bla... Probably Im going too far... But trust fifa standard they rule the game.... If we africans want to be the best... We beat the best... Besides we leave our country to go play there and you say they are not the best.... It's harder for black players because we are not the best... It's simple.... No inferiority complex here... Else why don't African teams run over Europeans nd Americans at the world cup.... We should change the way we think.... Accept where we are in the grand scheme of things and strive to grow from there....

Mujtahida:

Attack the message not the nationality of the messenger. What difference would it have made if the assertion was coming from a French magazine. Does stats rule today's football or not. Forget about football trends in Italy, Spain or France. We will discuss that some other time. Question is what is the single and overriding consideration across the board in today's football? Stats! Pure stats.

LZAA:

for pundits,fans and fitness coaches yes they do
for serious managers no
ancelotti had d worst stats as a player in milan yet sacchi signed him

AIG07:
@first bold, how many Nigeria players were signed by top teams in Europe in 1995 when Nigeria was ranked 5th by FIFA and despite the 94 performance?
There are more to this things than the eyes can see.

I don agree with you On the second bold-A resilent mindset.

Mujtahida:

Sacchi is anachronistic. Talk of what Gaurdiola would do. I say today's football. Context Bro.

AIG07:
@first bold, how many Nigeria players were signed by top teams in Europe in 1995 when Nigeria was ranked 5th by FIFA and despite the 94 performance?
There are more to this things than the eyes can see.

I don agree with you On the second bold-A resilent mindset.

tbaba1234:


He is doing what DMs are there for... Disrupting play.

Apart from the limited experience at top level, Ndidi ability is world class.. He was playing under 17 in 2013.. Topping the whole of Europe with your tackling and interceptions is not an easy feat

LZAA:

first u say don't attack the nationality then u say forget other nations
stats may rule in england but believe me in the rest of europe only fitness coaches and club statisicians and gamblers care about that hogwash
there was something souness said about stats after man u's win over liverpool
try and check it out

eterisan:
thank you for this question... We got different types of quality... World class, average, bang average, shhht etc.... The stats tells the story... Type of team, team contribution, trophies.. There are so many parameters used to measure quality.... Ndidi for me is just outside the bracket of top quality dm.... He is not there yet.... When he improves he's attacking qualities then we can talk.... You can't call him world class based on he's tackling stats alone.... I Pray he gets there

Mujtahida:

I said forget nationality cos if that clip was coming from a an Italian magazine it won't change the message. Talking about football trends was totally out of the context of numbers ruling today's game. What rules in Spain? In France? In Germany? Numbers and stats. Mind you at a deeper level it accords with the mental frame of the white man. He thinks scientifically. So we are just scratching the surface yet as per the rulership of numbers in today's game. It's going to get deeper. You obviously not looking at trends in the game from a wholistic angle. Ever wondered the why and what of technology in today's football?

At the end of every game what remains is a harvest of stats - for managers, pundits, fans even the referees.

No more talk about the sweetness of a pass, a nod, a free kick. Instead it's the velocity, the speed, the power. Can you measure the sweetness of a pass? No! But the velocity, the speed, the power can be measured.

LZAA:

and yet sacchi was one of the few coaches outside cryuff and ajax who followed stats religiously
who do u think taught pep?
cryuff schooled pep

AIG07:
baba, how is stats generated? Or how do players churn out stats?
Let me help. Let me summarize in two words 'GAME TIME'.

You only know a player has quality when he plays. You can and should never assume that a player lacks quality without seeing him play.

Most Nigerian players are never given enough time to show what they've got compare to their counterparts. Yet, you want us to judge them with the same yardstick. That's unfair.

Give both parties same opportunity and see who'll excel.

On Ndidi, I didn't say he is World class. The guy's performance as put him at the top.

LZAA:

so the black man doesn't think scientifically?
u do realise they are such tinz as pointless stats dont u?
liverpool had all d possession and lost to man u
barca had all d possession and lost to bayern
bayern had all the possession and lost to chelsea
yet if u look at the stats and use it as d main yardstick ur first thought would be that its impossible
football is about tactics and having the right players for any system
again stats are just used for records and fitness purposes

Mujtahida:

I know Cruyff coached Gaurdiola at Barca. Sacchi's numbers are done with. Same numbers. Different approach and interpretation. And because of technology deeper influence is yielded up to numbers. That's what I mean. Did Sacchi's players wear stats collecting vests?
Get the point: Sacchi's numbers are like a landline. Gaurdiola is iPhone

Mujtahida:

Let me ignore your first line cos what I wrote before doesn't necessitate such conclusion
Whether pointless stats or pointful stats I'm saying presently stats rule football. A goal is a pointless stats abi? The fact that the stat is pointless yet they still take note of it, they still record even the pointless stats to the extent you can refer to it makes my point. Stats rule football today to the extent that even pointless stats are recorded.

LZAA:

joel obi has really improved at torino
sone aluko shld get a look in

tbaba1234:
Super eagle invitee, Maarouf Youssef of Zamalek has switched allegiance to Egypt.. Maybe he was promised an invitation for the WC.

nelszx:

Something I find worrying are his weaknesses according to whoscored

LZAA:

bro not only did u ignore the first line u more or less ignored d second
i have already said on this thread that goals or assists are key stats
and as per pointless stats well recording them is what the stat boys are there for

nelszx:

Is he so wonderful a player?

tbaba1234:


Look at Etebo in Las palmas, Ndidi in Leicester... Those are players clearly in great form for their teams.

Azeez had a few good games but he was anonymous several times for his team. That said, I believe, he made the WC team on merit but he should never have been a first choice sub.

Aluko and Igiebor on pure quality should have been there.

tbaba1234:


I even forgot Mba..

eterisan:
Ndidi cannot play rakitic position.. He will flop big time... How una de look this Ndidi sef... This guy was a defender before o.... Blik una Dr forget.... He doesn't have d guile... How many assists, goals has he... What is his passing accuracy or success rate.... Oga forgiveness help me pull the stat na.... U sabi that thing well.... Make all this our people see.. So them go calm down for Ndidi mater

forgiveness:


Keshi threw Mba away because of transfer money no enter hand.

TheGoodJoe:


Keshi was not going to play Nosa in the DM role. He played Azeez as a deep lying player.

What I am saying is Keshi had his tactical approach to games that got him results. In the confeds, we matched the World Cup Champions Spain in play. Our finishing plus their quality tilted the results in the Spanish favor.

We did not have quality players then and Keshi relied on tactical innovations to match quality teams. Same goes with our 2-2 game with Italy. The highly criticised Ameobi was the man of the match.

When Oliseh came on board, he noticed the so called criticism was unfair when he found it hard rallying quality players for the Super Eagles.

forgiveness:


Did you follow Ramon Azeez in the la Liga that season?

BascoVanVeli:


This is a dead legend u are talking about. If u don't have proof of this put a sock in it.