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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:22am On Mar 14, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Ruben was not a passenger. The challenge he had was getting in tune with the game and he was not a likely replacement. Keep in mind, Azeez was the one to come in. The violent nature of the French team made that substitution unlikely. Also later in the game, Ruben improved and even made two tackles.

He was not a flashy choice and as I said, you do not know if the names you wanted would have suited the tactical plans for that game. We also lost Michael Babatunde to injury before that game. Losing Onazi and then Azeez not coming in reduced the options further.

As I said, unfair criticism.

Reuben was a gamble. Failed woefully.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:27am On Mar 14, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Oga, Wether na Reuben or Robin... Both him and Agu are a pair of shitty players. Finito!

Why is Agu shitty? I need fact, please.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 12:29am On Mar 14, 2018
Loogan:

Asin he's really the first coach to impress me on a personal level. This man actually travels to clubs to beg managers to play his players, sending personal trainers and convincing foreign borns to play for us. A country he has no ties to or any reason to admire.
Iv never seen a Nigerian coach show that level of commitment ever, this man is not just in for the personal glory he will get, he has a genuine love and eagerness to develop the SE and his players. good things come to those who wait indeed, gernot himself might have never thought he would go to the World Cup.
Hope he stays atleast till after our next World Cup.
. The man deserves a long term contract.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:55am On Mar 14, 2018
maidaboi:
how did musa scored 23 goals for SE?

It is 13 goals with 9 assists.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:33am On Mar 14, 2018
LZAA:

hmmm whole of europe u say?
so jorginho has ??
Jorginho and Ndidi are two different players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:41am On Mar 14, 2018
I'm surprised no one has said anything about Sergej Milinkovic-Savic. Now that is a beast of a player. The true guy we should be keeping an eye on instead of Matic. I'd like to see how our midfield will cope against him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:52am On Mar 14, 2018
Daejoyoung:

So you think Barca cannot chase Ndidi? Matic is just a bigger and more popular player. Ndidi at 21 is certainly a better defensive midfielder than Matic is, except in making timely passes like someone said earlier.
Ndidi passing is nowhere good enough to play for Barca(at least not yet). He has the potential to be a world class destroyer, but at the moment, Matic is simply better and more experienced. He reads the game better, dictates play better and of course has a better passing range. Ndidi is a tackling machine and edges Matic in terms of mobility.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:55am On Mar 14, 2018
LZAA:

no football manager buys players by stats
none
they look at ur ability and what u add to the team
lemme give u an example
if cr7 was wanted by psg for example and dy decided to use his stats for the first hallf of this season as d deciding factor,would dy have bought him?
This is partially true. Arsenal bought players like Elneny, Lucas Perez, Mustafi and Xhaka by using StatDna. It's had mixed results.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:57am On Mar 14, 2018
eterisan:
I beg to disagree Sir. Ndidi is not as good as fernandinho, Fred, jorginho, casemerio, busquets, Gabi, Can, vidal, khedira... I can keep naming them... Put him in an attacking team and he's deficiencies will show.. He has a lot to learn.
True but none of those guys are pure destroyers except maybe Casemerio who I think is better sha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:40am On Mar 14, 2018
edi287:

True but none of those guys are pure destroyers except maybe Casemerio who I think is better sha.

Casemerio,... He also has a very high tackles rate (3.8 ) and is a better passer..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by herroyalcutenes: 4:18am On Mar 14, 2018
What I know is a footballer's football team/teammates and coach makes his/her work easier or harder. Take Osaze for example who knew he was that good while bench warming in Russia? I bet not even his coach, but also take a look at Benzema. A simple move away from madrid and his career will fall faster than a park of cards.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lucque: 4:47am On Mar 14, 2018
M not with u... M pointing out d fact dat u believe jorginho is better cos he has more suitors. Which I feel is a wrong way to appraise quality
LZAA:

yet this whole comment started by comparing an upcoming ndidi to an established matic
get it?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 5:01am On Mar 14, 2018
herroyalcutenes:
What I know is a footballer's football team/teammates and coach makes his/her work easier or harder. Take Osaze for example who knew he was that good while bench warming in Russia? I bet not even his coach, but also take a look at Benzema. A simple move away from madrid and his career will fall faster than a park of cards.
Benzema would be better off where he's the main man. In Madrid he's just there to compliment cr7.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 5:37am On Mar 14, 2018
see people calling matic world class and no one has gone against it, but if we call Mikel world class some sabinus will want to tell us why he's not world class

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 6:08am On Mar 14, 2018
forgiveness:


Keshi threw Mba away because of transfer money no enter hand.
Please most of us still remember 2013/2014 events, first Mba had club issues when two Naija clubs were dragging his ownership so much that he ended up in a French division 3 club, secondly he was crap during the confederations cup and the world cup qualifiers against Ethiopia

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 6:19am On Mar 14, 2018
edi287:

True but none of those guys are pure destroyers except maybe Casemerio who I think is better sha.
gbam..... But in a top level team, who needs a pure destroyer, whose only attribute is tackling especially in this modern football era... Shey u see the trend...maybe now we get the point... Even casemerio you call a pure destroyer scores goals and gives assists... I mean big big goals that has taken Madrid one step further in the champions league.... Remember he was loaned to Porto when kroos was preferred to him in that role.. But Zidane called him back and integrated both in the team.... Point is casemerio improved other aspects of his game and flourished....... I really don't get the ndidi is a black african hence he is not rated syndrome.....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:28am On Mar 14, 2018
eterisan:
gbam..... But in a top level team, who needs a pure destroyer, whose only attribute is tackling especially in this modern football era....

Makalele and Kante were pure destroyers..

Kante won PFA player of the year twice being mainly a pure destroyer.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:44am On Mar 14, 2018

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 6:51am On Mar 14, 2018
eterisan:
smiles...... I been wan hook the bros.... He dodge... No wahala.... We all wish ndidi the best.... Infact I am very happy for him and prays he earns a good move and wins trophies... But first he has to improve to that international, top quality dm standard.... U dig
What would you say of Makelele then? Are you saying he wasn't top quality standard?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:52am On Mar 14, 2018
forgiveness:







Sharing Formular Stalled Sunday Mba's Move To CA Bastia (french Ligue 2 club)

Goal discovered from a prominent contact who was privy to the contract and it was discovered that the sharing of the €150,000 involved as transfer fee was the major cause of the deal not materializing in the first place.

Super Eagles coach Stephen Keshi allegedly demanded for €50,000 from the deal which Warri Wolves boss Amaju Pinnick perceived was too much and believed that the remaining €100,000 won’t be enough for him and Emmanuel Ibru, who was also involved in the sale of the player, to share.


https://www.nairaland.com/1424028/sharing-formula-stalled-sunday-mbas
Sir a prominent contact?this is not evidence.

I remember this report vividly and it was trash.

Imagine nobody uses this against Amaju during NFF election.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 7:04am On Mar 14, 2018
zicky:
see people calling matic world class and no one has gone against it, but if we call Mikel world class some sabinus will want to tell us why he's not world class
lol that's the inferiority complex there, we usually don't know when it speaks through us. l bet you, these guys can argue for Matic and even Makelele as world class, but would come at you if you also call Mickel world class all in the name of been without sentiments.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:28am On Mar 14, 2018
Daejoyoung:

lol that's the inferiority complex there, we usually don't know when it speaks through us. l bet you, these guys can argue for Matic and even Makelele as world class, but would come at you if you also call Mickel world class all in the name of been without sentiments.
if matic I know so well....is said to be a world class.....same matic @ 21 he was not in Chelsea first team let alone bench...that was when Chelsea was Chelsea and mikel who isn't a world class....according to some folks...
was playing and getting some minutes in Chelsea....at that age.

then someone need explain to me the criteria use to rate players as world class.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:31am On Mar 14, 2018
eterisan:
gbam..... But in a top level team, who needs a pure destroyer, whose only attribute is tackling especially in this modern football era... Shey u see the trend...maybe now we get the point... Even casemerio you call a pure destroyer scores goals and gives assists... I mean big big goals that has taken Madrid one step further in the champions league.... Remember he was loaned to Porto when kroos was preferred to him in that role.. But Zidane called him back and integrated both in the team.... Point is casemerio improved other aspects of his game and flourished....... I really don't get the ndidi is a black african hence he is not rated syndrome.....
don't you think the teams you play also attribute to the goals and assists you get? Don't think indidi in madrid will get more goals and assists than in leicester?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:34am On Mar 14, 2018
Humility017:

if matic I know so well....is said to be a world class.....same matic @ 21 he was not in Chelsea first team let alone bench...that was when Chelsea was Chelsea and mikel who isn't a world class....according to some folks...
was playing and getting some minutes in Chelsea....at that age.

then someone need explain to me the criteria use to rate players as world class.
true talk
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:43am On Mar 14, 2018
Humility017:

if matic I know so well....is said to be a world class.....same matic @ 21 he was not in Chelsea first team let alone bench...that was when Chelsea was Chelsea and mikel who isn't a world class....according to some folks...
was playing and getting some minutes in Chelsea....at that age.

then someone need explain to me the criteria use to rate players as world class.
Good another Mikel world class status debate.

All i know come next week Friday guys gonna see the different between Mikel and Matics cos both are the real guys in the midfield.

On Ndidi too early to say a world class but soon the boy would rule the world.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:46am On Mar 14, 2018
eterisan:
Ndidi is very good at what he does, which is break up play, but for top quality dms...the cream de la cream.. Tackling is not enough... Wait o.. Is this not same Ndidi I watch misplacing passes nd shooting waywardly... Imagine Ndidi in a man city side... How will he cope.. Can he beat his man in tight spaces release a pass in quick transition nd his teams scores from that play.... Bf them come for my head I am only analysing without a gwg tainted glass... I love super eagles and our players oooo... Infact we go win world cup.... Runs outa thread...
he misplace passes cause of the system he play in and he won goal of the season in belgium from shooting and some goals for leicester

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:49am On Mar 14, 2018
Humility017:

if matic I know so well....is said to be a world class.....same matic @ 21 he was not in Chelsea first team let alone bench...that was when Chelsea was Chelsea and mikel who isn't a world class....according to some folks...
was playing and getting some minutes in Chelsea....at that age.

then someone need explain to me the criteria use to rate players as world class.
Matic is a better DM than Mikel ever was. He successfully converted to DM from AM something which Mikel didn't do too well

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:51am On Mar 14, 2018
Daejoyoung:

What would you say of Makelele then? Are you saying he wasn't top quality standard?
Makelele was a far better passer than Ndidi is. He's also much more comfortable on the ball. Can't compare both
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:57am On Mar 14, 2018
edi287:

Makelele was a far better passer than Ndidi is. He's also much more comfortable on the ball. Can't compare both

Makalele was a safe passer. Win the ball and pass to the more creative player. Ndidi actually tries more risky passes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:58am On Mar 14, 2018
edi287:

Matic is a better DM than Mikel ever was. He successfully converted to DM from AM something which Mikel didn't do too well
I think Nigeria -Serbia match should do the talking cos Mikel i know Matics i don't know,so let's wait and see

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 8:07am On Mar 14, 2018
[quote author=edi287 post=65820662]
Matic is a better DM than Mikel ever was. He successfully converted to DM from AM something which Mikel didn't do too well[/quote I will reply you after our match with Serbia.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:11am On Mar 14, 2018
tbaba1234:


Makalele was a safe passer. Win the ball and pass to the more creative player. Ndidi actually tries more risky passes.
Makalele passing was underrated. Sure he wasn't Busquets or Pirlo, but he was pretty comfortable on the ball. Remember he used to be an attacking mid before he made the switch. Ndidi is not as comfortable on the ball.

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