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Mikel will play as an AM and Matic as a DM. What point will you be proving??

Kog45:
I think Nigeria -Serbia match should do the talking cos Mikel i know Matics i don't know,so let's wait and see

True. Matic will play as a DM while Mikel plays as an AM.

ChrisKels:
I have a big genuine success story from an insider about some quality foreign born players making waves in Europe's top five leagues who have called in saying they are reconsidering their earlier stances of turning out for their European nations, I would have loved to share the news in details with us here but for the prying ears, let me shield my sword until it's reported by THENFF.COM. We wouldn't wanna repeat a mistake. With these developments, expect some changes and stiffer competitions in the defence, midfield through to the attack.

I fear for Omeruo, Agu, Echiejile, Nwakeme and to an extent, Ogu.

oga please give the details of this news

PROVERBZ:
hello guys please make out time and watch this video I stumbled upon and let's here ur observation is he in the category of omjidje and dembele or not for me I think he is better


THE BEAST BOY:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOhnkC4y43s


You have to watch this video i think the bot now plays for Enugu rangers

hope the boy is still improving

edi287:

Makelele was a far better passer than Ndidi is. He's also much more comfortable on the ball. Can't compare both

Makelele wasn't rated world class as a passer of the ball, but for redefining the defensive midfield position, a solid covering for defence(that's the dirty job) and that is what Mickel was made to do under Mourinho while the likes of Ballack and Deco were focussed on creativity.
The truth of the matter is, on his defensive midfield duty in today's football, Ndidi is indeed world class.

edi287:

Makalele passing was underrated. Sure he wasn't Busquets or Pirlo, but he was pretty comfortable on the ball. Remember he used to be an attacking mid before he made the switch. Ndidi is not as comfortable on the ball.

He was underrated no doubt but Makalele was not one to try inventive passes. He kept things simple and effective.

Ndidi on the other hand tries some risky passes, which of course reduces his passing stats. That said, Ndidi's passing has improved under Puel and it is something, i expect to continue. Put Ndidi in a team that keep possession and your will see better passing stats from him.

edi287:

True. Matic will play as a DM while Mikel plays as an AM.

Yes you are right but the two are Generallismo of their team and star to watch so let's see how they carry their team irrespective of their position in the midfield.

junnyjake:



Komekn can be a little too biased at times, but where I wouldn't fault him that much is when he asks that our players be standout performers for their teams and leagues especially when they find themselves in the 'backwater leagues'


How many of our players are in the French, German, Italy and Spanish league compared to the EPL. This alone gives Komekn enough ground to praise the EPL to high heavens and his involvement with the league itself makes things worse.


And again, most of us here are just passionate fans, not analysts really, so you shouldn't expect much from us.

hahahaha!

Firstly, the basics what does biased mean Unfairly prejudiced for or against someone or something. Once again I am involved with English football primarily and therefore it's not bias to talk from a standpoint of knowledge quite often first hand. It would be nonsensical rambling for me to be talking about Nigerian league and as such I leave it for those in the know like BascoVanVeli, TheGoodJoe, etc.

Which country has the overwhelming highest number of Nigerian origin players in the world outside of Nigeria So it makes rational sense to concentrate on the biggest pool of potential talent. It's not sentimental prejudice it's common sense.

With regards to quality are you saying the EPL is not quality Which league had the overwhelming highest number of clubs in the last 16 of the Champions league

I have always said the EPL is the most physically taxing, highest tempo and competitive league. I did not say the most technically astute. In this regard La Liga is better technically speaking even possibly Seria A.

ChrisKels:
I have a big genuine success story from an insider about some quality foreign born players making waves in Europe's top five leagues who have called in saying they are reconsidering their earlier stances of turning out for their European nations, I would have loved to share the news in details with us here but for the prying ears, let me shield my sword until it's reported by THENFF.COM. We wouldn't wanna repeat a mistake. With these developments, expect some changes and stiffer competitions in the defence, midfield through to the attack.

I fear for Omeruo, Agu, Echiejile, Nwakeme and to an extent, Ogu.

ChrisKels i don tire for this your sweet suspense report,pls tell us more.What about goalkeeping department cos that's our headache.

komekn:


Firstly, the basics what does biased mean Unfairly prejudiced for or against someone or something. Once again I am involved with English football primarily and therefore it's not bias to talk from a standpoint of knowledge quite often first hand. It would be nonsensical rambling for me to be talking about Nigerian league and as such I leave it for those in the know like BascoVanVeli, TheGoodJoe, etc.

Which country has the overwhelming highest number of Nigerian origin players in the world outside of Nigeria So it makes rational sense to concentrate on the biggest pool of potential talent. It's not sentimental prejudice it's common sense.

With regards to quality are you saying the EPL is not quality Which league had the overwhelming highest number of clubs in the last 16 of the Champions league

I have always said the EPL is the most physically taxing, highest tempo and competitive league. I did not say the most technically astute. In this regard La Liga is better technically speaking even possibly Seria A.

Always getting your point.

Daejoyoung:

Makelele wasn't rated world class as a passer of the ball, but for redefining the defensive midfield position, a solid covering for defence(that's the dirty job) and that is what Mickel was made to do under Mourinho while the likes of Ballack and Deco were focussed on creativity.
The truth of the matter is, on his defensive midfield duty in today's football, Ndidi is indeed world class.

He wasn't rated but his passing was underrated. Makelele like Mikel was an attacking player before he got converted to a DM.

Mujtahida:

There's always room for improvement. No doubt but currently he's doing something which if it were done by others red carpets would be rolled out. That's my point. This is the logic: if you are exceptionally good at what you do (as Ndidi is now at least in tackles ) and no recognition comes you will most likely never become the best because by the time you struggle to climb that hill, your strength is gone. Recognition will just go to the new shining boy in town.

You are being sentimental.

You want to crown Ndidi King before he has become Prince. He is on the way but he is not there yet. How many seasons did it take Gerrard, Vieira, Makalele and even most recently Ngolo Kante to get recognised.

Forget the paper talk. Something you forget is that he has not won anything yet. Not one cup not one league nothing players get more recognition when they crown top performances with a winning season or trophy.

Ngolo Kante won the EPL with Leicester that crowned off his season. His fellow professionals voted him the best player in the EPL.

Ndidi time will come possibly in another club maybe next season at Liverpool Fc.

Kog45:
Yes you are right but the two are Generallismo of their team and star to watch so let's see how they carry their team irrespective of their position in the midfield.

The real guy I'm keeping my eye out for is Sergej Milinkovic-Savic. That guy is a beast.

eterisan:
it all boils down to fifa rating, work permit issues... Bla Bla Bla... Probably Im going too far... But trust fifa standard they rule the game.... If we africans want to be the best... We beat the best... Besides we leave our country to go play there and you say they are not the best.... It's harder for black players because we are not the best... It's simple.... No inferiority complex here... Else why don't African teams run over Europeans nd Americans at the world cup.... We should change the way we think.... Accept where we are in the grand scheme of things and strive to grow from there....

Plain speaking truth no frills, saying it as it is.

eterisan:
oga you be lawyer na.... If you nor measure up to nba standard will you be called to bar.... Again if you never improve and upgrade can you serve at the international court... Mek we leave this racism black thing.... Quality is quality... There is always a standard to be met...

Yes racism is alive and kicking but it's still possible to overcome with consistent outstanding top performances. Was George Weah not an African, or was Drogba from the moon, Was Rudd Gullit from Mars, where did Thierry Henry come from all these players were black.

Currently the most expensive young players in the world are black and if not they are not white.

edi287:

The real guy I'm keeping my eye out for is Sergej Milinkovic-Savic. That guy is a beast.

Pls tell me more about him,meaning he is the real guy.

Kog45:
Always getting your point.

Kog45:
Always getting your point.

Just look at how a distant 6th team in the la liga would bundle out Man U from the Champions league, yet sir komekn will not let us hear word about how English football is the next best thing since slice bread .......SMH

A 100 million pounds Pogba fees would probably take care of the whole sevilla squad yet they got beaten with their tails between their legs

5 Engliish teams in the second round he has been shouting since, two have been bundled out with probably more to go, ...yet both him and the English media won't still wanna agree that football..., extremely good football exist outside England

BascoVanVeli:


This is a dead legend u are talking about. If u don't have proof of this put a sock in it.

There are things we know and there are things we can prove.

We have endemic corruption in the Nigerian polity I don't think anyone will dispute. However, how many people have been indicted and convicted almost none.

Therefore there is no corruption in Nigeria, do you agree

forgiveness:







Sharing Formular Stalled Sunday Mba's Move To CA Bastia (french Ligue 2 club)

Goal discovered from a prominent contact who was privy to the contract and it was discovered that the sharing of the €150,000 involved as transfer fee was the major cause of the deal not materializing in the first place.

Super Eagles coach Stephen Keshi allegedly demanded for €50,000 from the deal which Warri Wolves boss Amaju Pinnick perceived was too much and believed that the remaining €100,000 won’t be enough for him and Emmanuel Ibru, who was also involved in the sale of the player, to share.


https://www.nairaland.com/1424028/sharing-formula-stalled-sunday-mbas

I could say a lot more, but for reasons of legality I will be quite.

realpoacher:
Just look at how a distant 6th team in the la liga would bundle out Man U from the Champions league, yet sir komekn will not let us hear word about how English football is the next best thing since slice bread .......SMH

A 100 million pounds Pogba fees would probably take care of the whole sevilla squad yet they got beaten with their tails between their legs

5 Engliish teams in the second round he has been shouting since, two have been bundled out with probably more to go, ...yet both him and the English media won't still wanna agree that football..., extremely good football exist outside England

run for ya life cos komekn is coming for ya..

Sometimes I wonder
Why all the fuss and sugarcoating of the English premier league

TheGoodJoe:


Ruben was not a passenger. The challenge he had was getting in tune with the game and he was not a likely replacement. Keep in mind, Azeez was the one to come in. The violent nature of the French team made that substitution unlikely. Also later in the game, Ruben improved and even made two tackles.

He was not a flashy choice and as I said, you do not know if the names you wanted would have suited the tactical plans for that game. We also lost Michael Babatunde to injury before that game. Losing Onazi and then Azeez not coming in reduced the options further.

As I said, unfair criticism.

Rueben was worse than a passenger he had jumped into a first class train and didn't even have a ticket or the money to buy one.

Failed so badly at Kilmarnock he was a joke had hardly kicked a ball all season after hi contract was ripped up. Then players who were performing in the EPL like Aluko were completely ignored.

realpoacher:
Just look at how a distant 6th team in the la liga would bundle out Man U from the Champions league, yet sir komekn will not let us hear word about how English football is the next best thing since slice bread .......SMH

A 100 million pounds Pogba fees would probably take care of the whole sevilla squad yet they got beaten with their tails between their legs

5 Engliish teams in the second round he has been shouting since, two have been bundled out with probably more to go, ...yet both him and the English media won't still wanna agree that football..., extremely good football exist outside England

Lol baba you funny,are you trying to also say Chelsea will be out ?

Chriskels oya come drop am

Lol..when u think u ve seen it all..

And nicklas bendtner releases a documentary

https://www.nairaland.com/4397311/nicklas-bendtner-movie-2019-trailer

Oasis007:
Seriously I don't wanna get involved in it but....... it's kinda disgusting we are comparing two Nigerians in the same Club, and beginning to rate one ahead of the Other.

Simon was injured for several Weeks, but we ain't taking it into Consideration, rather expected his Stats to keep improving while nursing Injury?!

It's a pity we ain't engaging in a healthy Debate with verifiable Facts! What makes Kalu better than Simon?! Well..... I don't wanna get involved cos its not healthy.

Walahi i just tire, imagine comparing two same Nigerians in the same club because one was called and the other was not...also not factoring the fact that injury kept Moses out for upto six weeks.

Besides what kalu is doing is what Moses has done even more in the time past for Gent, so he deserves his place. Kalu should bid his time while doing what he is currently doing or should even do more. We dont want a one Season wonder in our team

that chriskels of a guy sha...

there is a funny trend on this thread, we like clamouring for new players included all the time,...once that one gets included the next list, we start clamouring again for another new player, we are never satisfied.

we forget many times that at the end, we can only have 11 players on the field at a time

realpoacher:
Just look at how a distant 6th team in the la liga would bundle out Man U from the Champions league, yet sir komekn will not let us hear word about how English football is the next best thing since slice bread .......SMH

A 100 million pounds Pogba fees would probably take care of the whole sevilla squad yet they got beaten with their tails between their legs

5 Engliish teams in the second round he has been shouting since, two have been bundled out with probably more to go, ...yet both him and the English media won't still wanna agree that football..., extremely good football exist outside England

6th team in LA liga beating Man utd,nothing new,hope you remember Chelsea won champions league as 6th in EPL that season.

Kog45:
Yes a serous team that want to play Nigeria in a competitive match must play Ghana cos we play the same way.

i doubt we do. just looking for a West African team that can give them a glimpse of what to expect from us.

komekn:


Yes racism is alive and kicking but it's still possible to overcome with consistent outstanding top performances. Was George Weah not an African, or was Drogba from the moon, Was Rudd Gullit from Mars, where did Thierry Henry come from all these players were black.

Currently the most expensive young players in the world are black and if not they are not white.

how many of them where born in africa and playing for african coutries?

Humility017:

if matic I know so well....is said to be a world class.....same matic @ 21 he was not in Chelsea first team let alone bench...that was when Chelsea was Chelsea and mikel who isn't a world class....according to some folks...
was playing and getting some minutes in Chelsea....at that age.

then someone need explain to me the criteria use to rate players as world class.

Bros mikel na world class o,I support you for this one,anybody wey say mikel no b world class make we start the arguement

daveP:
i doubt we do. just looking for a West African team that can give them a glimpse of what to expect from us.

Yes you are right