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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 10:47am On Mar 14, 2018
komekn:


Plain speaking truth no frills, saying it as it is.
thank you sir.. For recognising it as it is.. Wish more super eagles fans would realise this [/ it all boils down to fifa rating, work permit issues... Bla Bla Bla... Probably Im going too far... But trust fifa standard they rule the game.... If we africans want to be the best... We beat the best... Besides we leave our country to go play there and you say they are not the best.... It's harder for black players because we are not the best... It's simple.... No inferiority complex here... Else why don't African teams run over Europeans nd Americans at the world cup.... We should change the way we think.... Accept where we are in the grand scheme of things and strive to grow from there....]
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:50am On Mar 14, 2018
Mujtahida:

I just laughed when I saw the scoreline yesterday. When we praise our players it is sentiments. When he praises the EPL it is objectivity. Smh. Since 2012 how have English teams fared in the Champions league compared to other leagues. Just because five teams crossed over to this round komekn will not let us hear word. I'm almost praying that Barca should out Chelsea tonight just so things will be seen in proper perspective.
I think this is our biggest issue with komekn here. It's one thing to be biased, but another when you are a biased hypocrite.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 10:53am On Mar 14, 2018
LZAA:

that play the same position

jorginho has some abilities that ndidi(passing and contolling tempo) while ndidi has some abilities more than jorginho(tackling and breaking up play)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 10:55am On Mar 14, 2018
daveP:
Hmmm. glad he is "one popular player"


I'l simply watch the two than conclude one is less better. but for stats on DM in Europe this season, the Epl has the best this time....


Our stance is just exactly the same on Ndidi improving. dunno why some peeps feel that giving him this hype translates to the fact that he is a complete player already. Abeg make dem drop hot pot for snow jare.
again this thread got this long cuz ndidi was compared to matic
that is just like comparing modric to onazi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 10:56am On Mar 14, 2018
asha80:


jorginho has some abilities that ndidi(passing and contolling tempo) while ndidi has some abilities more than jorginho(tackling and breaking up play)
same way someone compared ndidi to matic
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:10am On Mar 14, 2018
LZAA:

again this thread got this long cuz ndidi was compared to matic
that is just like comparing modric to onazi
And there you go again with the wrong choice for comparism.
Is Onazi bossing the league he currently is playing in terms of stats from his position?


very very wrong option you chose there.... It will be long until understanding that what we are saying is just the obvious currently. hj

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:14am On Mar 14, 2018
forgiveness:







Sharing Formular Stalled Sunday Mba's Move To CA Bastia (french Ligue 2 club)

Goal discovered from a prominent contact who was privy to the contract and it was discovered that the sharing of the €150,000 involved as transfer fee was the major cause of the deal not materializing in the first place.

Super Eagles coach Stephen Keshi allegedly demanded for €50,000 from the deal which Warri Wolves boss Amaju Pinnick perceived was too much and believed that the remaining €100,000 won’t be enough for him and Emmanuel Ibru, who was also involved in the sale of the player, to share.


https://www.nairaland.com/1424028/sharing-formula-stalled-sunday-mbas

When u use an article as proof, the reporter can never use a word such as allegedly. This is nothing but hearsay.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:16am On Mar 14, 2018
Kog45:
If Matics is world class then Mikel is world class no arguments

Elder Sir Kog45.... I greet you Sir. I remember when I unequivocally stated that Mikel is World class with proof. Many came against that truth.

But now for the sake of this Matic-Ndidi argument, they may agree that Mikel is world class and is on Matic's level.... While Ndidi is not abi? Loooollll... Funny lots they are.

Let me make this clear... Mikel being world class is not even dependent on Matic because Mikel is above the level of Matic. It is an insult to compare Mikel's Class to that of Matic... Mikel is what and who Matic dreamed of becoming and that is how it will always be.


As for Ndidi, that lad is near world class status already. There are strong rumors of his move to a bigger club in the summer. He is the World Ranking best young DM in the whole of Europe today. And he had done things Matic at 21 could only even dream of... Dominating tackling stats across the top five leagues of the world/Europe, churning in top rated performances week in week out in arguably the World's toughest league and the third most technically proficient league in Europe and in the world.... "THE EPL"

Even in the EPL currently, who is better? Matic or Ndidi? The answer is obvious. Ndidi takes it. So what are Matic/Man Utd fanboys talking about? cheesy

Honestly, what Matic has now is in the name "Matic", I even rate Milinkovic-Savic higher now. Yet, not even Milinkovic-Savic tops Ndidi. Ndidi is the next big thing the world is gonna see since Ngolo Kante. And he will be much bigger no doubt... What he is already doing at 21 is really scary. He is not even at his peak yet.

Call it hypes all you want people..... But this is the Ndidi we've seen evolve in the EPL since January 2017.

Elder Sir Kog45... Mikel is world class. Well said. But biko let us not insult Mikel's class by making the statement because we agree Matic is world class... Mikel is a far bigger and better player than Matic in pure class, sheer footballing abilities, in world class status and in trophies/achievements. Dem no be mate abeg....

It is funny how guys in here continue belittling our own in the name of some subtle allegiance to Euro club football. They cannot see pass their euro club football allegiances and talk "Truth" pertaining to the beautiful game.

Ndidi is better than Matic currently... And I agree with Elder Kog45 when he first made this similar comment. If anybody don't like it, then take a hike... **In trump's voice** Looollll

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 11:17am On Mar 14, 2018
safarigirl:
I think this is our biggest issue with komekn here. It's one thing to be biased, but another when you are a biased hypocrite.

This gyal... You dey cwaze ooo... The bolded made me laugh for over 1 minute

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 11:19am On Mar 14, 2018
daveP:
And there you go again with the wrong choice for comparism.
Is Onazi bossing the league he currently is playing in terms of stats from his position?


very very wrong option you chose there.... It will be long until understanding that what we are saying is just the obvious currently. hj
again key word being comparison by which the onazi one was sarcastic
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:19am On Mar 14, 2018
komekn:


There are things we know and there are things we can prove.

We have endemic corruption in the Nigerian polity I don't think anyone will dispute. However, how many people have been indicted and convicted almost none.

Therefore there is no corruption in Nigeria, do you agree

Please don't tell us what we already know. Do u have proof that Keshi did anything that they are accusing him of? Nigeria is corrupt I get that but let us respect the dead for goodness sake. What does bringing out skeletons in this man's closet do for any of us? If u are telling me that all our footballing problems will be solved by this then by all means carry on.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 11:21am On Mar 14, 2018
LZAA:

again this thread got this long cuz ndidi was compared to matic
that is just like comparing modric to onazi
How would you bring Onazi and Modric into this sef... What has Onazi done in his league this season.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 11:22am On Mar 14, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

Ndidi is a world class Player!

EOD!
What else does it take to be world class in a defensive midfield role?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:23am On Mar 14, 2018
Daejoyoung:

What else does it take to be world class in a defensive midfield role?

Let's move on from this palaver pls. He's a world class PLAYER already!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 11:31am On Mar 14, 2018
Oasis007:


Let's move on from this palaver pls. He's a world class PLAYER already!
I tire for them... Ndidi is world class... Better than casemiero, Fernandinho, kroos, jorghinho, matic, khedira, Makelele,.... Infact he is the greatest dm that ever liveth..... Can we move on now...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:33am On Mar 14, 2018
komekn:


Rueben was worse than a passenger he had jumped into a first class train and didn't even have a ticket or the money to buy one.

Failed so badly at Kilmarnock he was a joke had hardly kicked a ball all season after hi contract was ripped up. Then players who were performing in the EPL like Aluko were completely ignored.

There must be variety. After Onazi injured, Aluko would not have had the ability to play the role. The contributions Reuben made towards the end of the game from a defensive perspective, Aluko would not make them. Babatunde took Aluko's role and flourished. Why blame Reuben.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:34am On Mar 14, 2018
eterisan:
I tire for them... Ndidi is world class... Better than casemiero, Fernandinho, kroos, jorghinho, matic, khedira, Makelele,.... Infact he is the greatest dm that ever liveth..... Can we move on now...

grin

There is more to discuss than the Tale by Moonlight!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 11:36am On Mar 14, 2018
LZAA:

again key word being comparison by which the onazi one was sarcastic
Still it's not the right comparison because Onazi's stats currently doesn't come close to that of Mordric, but looking at Ndidi and Matic, the gap is not as wide as you've made it with your Onazi Comparison(to Mordric) which was only intended to belittle Ndidi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:39am On Mar 14, 2018
The point is so simple. When it concerns the defensive side of the DM role, Ndidi rules the planet of football. That makes him World Class especially when it concerns shielding the defence and breaking up plays.

Gerrit?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 11:41am On Mar 14, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
The point is so simple. When it concerns the defensive side of the DM role, Ndidi rules the planet of football. That makes him World Class especially when it concerns shielding the defence and breaking up plays.

Gerrit?
Gbam! l wonder why this has been so hard, it's simple really.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:42am On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:


Elder Sir Kog45.... I greet you Sir. I remember when I unequivocally stated that Mikel is World class with proof. Many came against that truth.

But now for the sake of this Matic-Ndidi argument, they may agree that Mikel is world class and is on Matic's level.... While Ndidi is not abi? Loooollll... Funny lots they are.

Let me make this clear... Mikel being world class is not even dependent on Matic because Mikel is above the level of Matic. It is an insult to compare Mikel's Class to that of Matic... Mikel is what and who Matic dreamed of becoming and that is how it will always be.


As for Ndidi, that lad is near world class status already. There are strong rumors of his move to a bigger club in the summer. He is the World Ranking best young DM in the whole of Europe today. And he had done things Matic at 21 could only even dream of... Dominating tackling stats across the top five leagues of the world/Europe, churning in top rated performances week in week out in arguably the World's toughest league and the third most technically proficient league in Europe and in the world.... "THE EPL"

Even in the EPL currently, who is better? Matic or Ndidi? The answer is obvious. Ndidi takes it. So what are Matic/Man Utd fanboys talking about? cheesy

Honestly, what Matic has now is in the name "Matic", I even rate Milinkovic-Savic higher now. Yet, not even Milinkovic-Savic tops Ndidi. Ndidi is the next big thing the world is gonna see since Ngolo Kante. And he will be much bigger no doubt... What he is already doing at 21 is really scary. He is not even at his peak yet.

Call it hypes all you want people..... But this is the Ndidi we've seen evolve in the EPL since January 2017.

Elder Sir Kog45... Mikel is world class. Well said. But biko let us not insult Mikel's class by making the statement because we agree Matic is world class... Mikel is a far bigger and better player than Matic in pure class, sheer footballing abilities, in world class status and in trophies/achievements. Dem no be mate abeg....

It is funny how guys in here continue belittling our own in the name of some subtle allegiance to Euro club football. They cannot see pass their euro club football allegiances and talk "Truth" pertaining to the beautiful game.

Ndidi is better than Matic currently... And I agree with Elder Kog45 when he first made this similar comment. If anybody don't like it, then take a hike... **In trump's voice** Looollll

Well said TheSuperNerd but sometimes you put rope on the ground for people,to them Mikel is not world class but Matics is a class now just to belittle suoer growing Ndidi who have showed me this season is better than Matics

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 11:44am On Mar 14, 2018
Stupid European asslickers

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 11:51am On Mar 14, 2018
DrKlever:
Stupid European asslickers
make your point without throwing cheap shots bone head... Same goes for you kiddo @ TheSuperNerd.... No use calling people funny lots... And to take a hike... This discuss has been flowing since yesterday without rancour till you joined in...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 11:59am On Mar 14, 2018
Daejoyoung:

Still it's not the right comparison because Onazi's stats currently doesn't come close to that of Mordric, but looking at Ndidi and Matic, the gap is not as wide as you've made it with your Onazi Comparison(to Mordric) which was only intended to belittle Ndidi.
d gap btw ndidi and matic IS wide
one is established d oda is upcoming

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 12:00pm On Mar 14, 2018
Certitude:

How would you bring Onazi and Modric into this sef... What has Onazi done in his league this season.
again this is sarcasm
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:03pm On Mar 14, 2018
By d power bestowed on me by d elders in dis forum,I hereby forbade any form of suspense from Boss Chriskels henceforth and you re hereby given three market days as deadline to unveil the foreign born players willing to switch allegiance with us OR.........







grin grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 12:07pm On Mar 14, 2018
Manchester City look to Bundesliga superstar after cooling interest in Fred – report
By City Watch 
Posted on March 13, 2018
RELATED ITEMS: FEATURED , FRED , JULIAN WEIGL Manchester City have cooled their interest in recent midfield target Fred according to reports today by The Times , Goal and Daily Mail .
The news comes as a surprise after City had
reportedly been in advanced negotiations to land the 24-year-old Brazil international, but Paul Hirst of The Times writes that the two clubs could not come to an agreement despite City loaning striker Larry Kayode to the Ukrainian giants.
While a deal isn’t impossible it is now rated as unlikely, and fresh reports claim that Manchester United could instead sign Fred, continuing their recent habit of signing City targets.
Shakhtar CEO Sergei Palkin told Italian newspaper Corriere dello Sport today, “Fred isn’t already at Manchester City, but he will surely leave in June. If not to City, then Manchester United.
“He’s ready for the next stage, because as well as being good, he’s also very professional. If he asked us to stay another year, we’d let him.”
City are now expected to turn their attentions to other targets, with Julian Weigl of Borussia Dortmund listed as a primary candidate by The Times .
A host of midfielders other than Fred and Weigl have been linked with a switch to the Etihad in recent months, including Lazio’s impressive
Sergej Milinković-Savić , Jorginho of Napoli, and Liverpool star Emre Can who is out of contract in the summer.
City are in considerable need of a new midfielder who can play in a deeper role, with Fernandinho soon to turn 33 and Yaya Touré out of contract in June and leaving the club. The big question now is if not Fred, then who?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:07pm On Mar 14, 2018
LZAA:

d gap btw ndidi and matic IS wide
one is established d oda is upcoming
Yes you are right there is difference between established and upcoming but being established does not mean you are better than upcoming.

Remeber upcoming Kante benched well established Matics and even pushed him forward to slug it out with another established Fabregas.

Being established doesn't mean you are better than the upcoming

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 12:07pm On Mar 14, 2018
eterisan:
Manchester City look to Bundesliga superstar after cooling interest in Fred – report
By City Watch 
Posted on March 13, 2018
RELATED ITEMS: FEATURED , FRED , JULIAN WEIGL Manchester City have cooled their interest in recent midfield target Fred according to reports today by The Times , Goal and Daily Mail .
The news comes as a surprise after City had
reportedly been in advanced negotiations to land the 24-year-old Brazil international, but Paul Hirst of The Times writes that the two clubs could not come to an agreement despite City loaning striker Larry Kayode to the Ukrainian giants.
While a deal isn’t impossible it is now rated as unlikely, and fresh reports claim that Manchester United could instead sign Fred, continuing their recent habit of signing City targets.
Shakhtar CEO Sergei Palkin told Italian newspaper Corriere dello Sport today, “Fred isn’t already at Manchester City, but he will surely leave in June. If not to City, then Manchester United.
“He’s ready for the next stage, because as well as being good, he’s also very professional. If he asked us to stay another year, we’d let him.”
City are now expected to turn their attentions to other targets, with Julian Weigl of Borussia Dortmund listed as a primary candidate by The Times .
A host of midfielders other than Fred and Weigl have been linked with a switch to the Etihad in recent months, including Lazio’s impressive
Sergej Milinković-Savić , Jorginho of Napoli, and Liverpool star Emre Can who is out of contract in the summer.
City are in considerable need of a new midfielder who can play in a deeper role, with Fernandinho soon to turn 33 and Yaya Touré out of contract in June and leaving the club. The big question now is if not Fred, then who?
Abeg una see ndidi name there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 12:18pm On Mar 14, 2018
We Nigerians can be so quick to underrate,belittle and disparage the abilities of our players. It's almost as if you never expect us to be good enough thereby finding all sorts of silly excuses to support your demeaning claims. What an inferior mentality. No make me vex ooo. angry . More grease to the elbows of our players as they continue ignoring and proving their 'unpatriotic' countrymen doubters wrong.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 12:21pm On Mar 14, 2018
Fabihno = status quo ( perhaps slightly better under pressure), Yes
Can = utility player on a free? Sure. But he is probably not a great fit. Conditional yes.
Diawara = if you play in Napoli's system you can pick ours up in weeks. So if it's a Napoli player at any position, the answer is always Yes!
FDJ: Style, composure, temperament, technique, size, vision, skill, movement. He has it in bucket loads. Only downside being current competition. But his style strikes me as competition proof. An absolute Yes for me.
Ndidi: A no for me. An average passer, with average speed, great strength and fantastic tackling. What he is great at will be wasted here, and what he isn't so great at will slow us down. No on Ndidi.

Post from a man city forum... Link http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/members/delphinho.80474/....... We should drop this gwg tainted glasses abeg...... I love super eagles and wish our players well.... But that won't make me draw unrealistic assertions

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/defensive-midfield-targets-options.328166/....... Read more here...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LZAA: 12:22pm On Mar 14, 2018
Kog45:
Yes you are right there is difference between established and upcoming but being established does not mean you are better than upcoming.

Remeber upcoming Kante benched well established Matics and even pushed him forward to slug it out with another established Fabregas.

Being established doesn't mean you are better than the upcoming
kante benched matic?
wow and here i was thinking matic left because of bakayoko
and here i was thinking it was fabregas complaining of game time last season
kante is a central mid and matic is a dm
they can swap roles but these are their main positions from where they are most effective
oh btw kante was not upcoming when he joined chelsea grin

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