LZAA:

that play the same position

Jorginho is a regista, Ndidi is a destroyer. Both can play together or in spite of one another. It all depends on how the team sets up

eterisan:
ndidi is excellent at these primary qualities, but having that alone limits him in the grand scheme of things.. That is my point.... He has to also excel at the secondary qualities of a midfielder, which are passing, dribbles, shooting, free kicks, assists.... Then and then alone will he be world class.... Try see wety I de talk na oga. . I nor hate the guy, neither am I biased.. Na the love I get for am mek me want mek he improve... Call it tough love

I get your point. Some will think you're hating on Ndidi

Kog45:
Pls tell me more about him,meaning he is the real guy.

Yep. One of the young CM around. Physically imposing and comfortable on the ball. Think we should play our regular Ndidi - Onazi that day.

asha80:


please point me to where i did that

oga that was why I said maybe.. Sorry if not you.... Didn't take note of the moniker... Maybe daejoyoung.... Or BascoVanVeli....or lexyman.... Was yesterday... I have forgotten

Ndidi and matic talk for how many pages now? Una no dey tire?


Chei

LZAA:

matic was chelsea's DM till he left,he only SWAPPED roles with kante when fab had to play
kante waa playing ligue 2 b4 he blew at leicester,matic like david luiz and lindelof were already playing top level footie in portugal

Sir not really getting your point

edi287:

Jorginho is a regista, Ndidi is a destroyer. Both can play together or in spite of one another. It all depends on how the team sets up

again players swap roles
kante is a central mid who can slot in as def mid

Kog45:
Sir not really getting your point

points i'm trying to make are 1:matic was DM at chelsea now he is DM at man u 2: Matic was established when kante was upcoming

Bros, pls compare him to his mates and not to the almighty!

Chei! Are you aware that Leo Messi is the only player in the world who realistically possess all these qualities you listed. And I dare you to tell me who else does. Even Andres Iniesta, at his best, didn't possess all of those qualities. And that's the standard you've already set for the 21 year old Ndidi

Na wa for una o!


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eterisan:
ndidi is excellent at these primary qualities, but having that alone limits him in the grand scheme of things.. That is my point.... He has to also excel at the secondary qualities of a midfielder, which are passing, dribbles, shooting, free kicks, assists.... Then and then alone will he be world class.... Try see wety I de talk na oga. . I nor hate the guy, neither am I biased.. Na the love I get for am mek me want mek he improve... Call it tough love

LZAA:

again players swap roles
kante is a central mid who can slot in as def mid

Kante as a CM would merely be a "box to box" destroyer. Kante can't play as a Regista. Kante can't sit in front of the back 4. He's never done that. Drinkwater, Matic mainly did that. He just buzzes around breaking up play.

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Oasis007:


Ndidi is a world class Player!

EOD!

Kog45:
I thought Ndidi replaced Kante as DM at Leicester.

And before the arrival of Kante who was Chelsea DM

Hope you remember is either Kante start with Matic or Fabregas,are you now saying Fabregas is DM.

Last season at Chelsea Conte rotate Fabregas and Matics as CM and Kante as DM.

Oh Kante established before coming to Chelsea,fine now tell me who is more established between Kante and Matics

What he's saying is Kante doesn't sit in front of the back 4 like Makelele or even Mikel did at Chelsea. He plays a bit further up front breaking up play. Matic is usually the last guy who sits deep and dictates play.

Icon79:
Bros, pls compare him to his mates and not to the almighty!

Chei! Are you aware that Leo Messi is the only player in the world who realistically possess all these qualities you listed. And I dare you to tell me who else does. Even Andres Iniesta, at his best, didn't possess all of those qualities. And that's the standard you've already set for the 21 year old Ndidi

Na wa for una o!


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your obsession with Messi is world class I swear down.... Lolz...na me compare am with those guys.... Nr be your people say ndidi na world class.... Besides modric, busquets, Fernandinho have those qualities.... Top dms have those qualities.... Yu knw... A little of this.. Some of that... Much of those..... Good at these.... Right now ndidi get only much of this...[tackling].. So on what basis is he world class eh.... Blik I dr de talk too much sef..... I have made my point.... Mek I go back to ghost mode... Na holiday I de cos dis one..

edi287:

Kante as a CM would merely be a "box to box" destroyer. Kante can't play as a Regista. Kante can't sit in front of the back 4. He's never done that. Drinkwater, Matic mainly did that. He just buzzes around breaking up play.

busquets and carrick are examples of players who play dm and cm
modern day footie is fluid so players hardly sit in one place

eterisan:
your obsession with Messi is world class I swear down.... Lolz...na me compare am with those guys.... Nr be your people say ndidi na world class.... Besides modric, busquets, Fernandinho have those qualities.... Top dms have those qualities.... Yu knw... A little of this.. Some of that... Much of those..... Good at these.... Right now ndidi get only much of this...[tackling].. So on what basis is he world class eh.... Blik I dr de talk too much sef..... I have made my point.... Mek I go back to ghost mode... Na holiday I de cos dis one..

he isnt a good shooter of the ball.

LZAA:

busquets and carrick are examples of players who play dm and cm
modern day footie is fluid so players hardly sit in one place

With the same functions i.e dictating play. Their roles never change.

edi287:
With the same functions i.e dictating play. Their roles never change.

but are they dm's or not?

Noooo, pls come back .... don't go back to ghost mode .... we're not done yet

OK, when was the last time you saw Modric, Busquets, or Fernandinho scored from a freekick?
Besides Busquets and Modric are not great in shooting either. And Fernandinho isn't that great in dribbling.


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eterisan:
your obsession with Messi is world class I swear down.... Lolz...na me compare am with those guys.... Nr be your people say ndidi na world class.... Besides modric, busquets, Fernandinho have those qualities.... Top dms have those qualities.... Yu knw... A little of this.. Some of that... Much of those..... Good at these.... Right now ndidi get only much of this...[tackling].. So on what basis is he world class eh.... Blik I dr de talk too much sef..... I have made my point.... Mek I go back to ghost mode... Na holiday I de cos dis one..

eterisan:
bros you do finish work.... N wety I de talk since... Ndidi is excellent yes.... World class no.. World class players play for world class teams and win trophies upon trophies and win accolades... Best player this best team that.... Ndidi can and will only get there if nd when he improves the attacking side of his game..... Padding tackling stats alone won't do it... Cos for top teams d best form of defence is attack.... Controlling the midfield.... Starving your opponent of possession... An average tackler with good passing stats can play that role.... Kroos n gundogan anyone...

God bless u sir, u just spoke my mind. Ndidi is good but not up to the level of world class. watched his game against west brom and u could see that he has to improve his passing skills, football intelligence, composure and also shooting... heard he has the highest shots without a goal in the league

Icon79:
Noooo, pls come back .... don't go back to ghost mode .... we're not done yet

OK, when was the last time you saw Modric, Busquets, or Fernandinho scored from a freekick?
Besides Busquets and Modric are not great in shooting either. And Fernandinho isn't that great in dribbling.


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I dr run abeg... M exhausted with this argument... Mek una bliv wety una like..... Ndidi is world class.... We agree...... Next.... The poster above fit continue...... Ghost mode ti takeover.....

Nah, I won't call him world class yet but he's a fantastic player and has the potential to be world class. He has to show me at the world cup before I label him world class. And by the way, same with Kelechi Iheanacho ... Kelechi has the potential to be world class as well but he seems to have lost his way a bit, unfortunately


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eterisan:
I dr run abeg... M exhausted with this argument... Mek una bliv wety una like..... Ndidi is world class.... We agree...... Next.... The poster above fit continue...... Ghost mode ti takeover.....

Icon79:
Noooo, pls come back .... don't go back to ghost mode .... we're not done yet

OK, when was the last time you saw Modric, Busquets, or Fernandinho scored from a freekick?
Besides Busquets and Modric are not great in shooting either. And Fernandinho isn't that great in dribbling.


O pari

modric and fernandinho can shoot no doubt but certainly not busquets as that is his weak point

Icon79:
Noooo, pls come back .... don't go back to ghost mode .... we're not done yet

OK, when was the last time you saw Modric, Busquets, or Fernandinho scored from a freekick?
Besides Busquets and Modric are not great in shooting either. And Fernandinho isn't that great in dribbling.


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I think Casemiro is a good example though he might not really be a good dribbler and doesn't take free kick. A player cannot have all the attributes but if Ndidi is to move to a bigger team his tackling abilities will be required less but the other qualities will be needed more and he will be required to wriggle his way out of a difficult situation

eterisan:
I am a city fan... Lolz... And city is seriously in search for a dm..... They are the mark of excellence right now.... So if ndidi is so good why is he not a target for them.... Oga tbaba1234 could not mention one top team interested in ndidi nd the dm ndidi will bench...... I so much love what ndidi has achieved, I aspire for him to reach the top level... But saying he is there yet when clearly he is not is..... Smh..... I tire..... Naso una been do for nacho case o..... When chief icon4s say the boy never ready..... Some even claim... TheGoodJoe...... Say nacho better pass Gabriel Jesus nd mbappe..... Now how d thing turn out..... Mek we De calm down jo

Is Gabriel Jesus the tap in merchant and Mbapp who's all pace and skill but no football IQ better than Iheancho on present form they are just fortunate to be selected to play. they ain't better than Nacho. simple!

Some comment u guys made u can only do it on a Nigeria forum like nairaland go to international forum and make those claims . claims like

Mikel is on pirlo level
Iheanacho should bench aguero in man city
Ndidi is the best defensive midfielder in the world
Mikel is a world class player

Actually, I beg to differ on Modric. Modric has never been a great striker of the ball. He can dribble and pass, but shooting has never been his strong quality. His game mirrors that of Ozil. Now, if you're talking about Raktic .... that one packs bullets on both feet.


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asha80:


modric and fernandinho can shoot no doubt but certainly not busquets as that is his weak point

Good point. Ndidi still needs to improve in many areas, no doubt. But my argument is not to expect him to become world class in every area of the game before we can rate him. If that's the standard then only Leo Messi would quality


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RichardKajola:

I think Casemiro is a good example though he might not really be a good dribbler and doesn't take free kick. A player cannot have all the attributes but if Ndidi is to move to a bigger team his tackling abilities will be required less but the other qualities will be needed more and he will be required to wriggle his way out of a difficult situation

Icon79:
Actually, I beg to differ on Modric. Modric has never been a great striker of the ball. He can dribble and pass, but shooting has never been his strong quality. His game mirrors that of Ozil. Now, if you're talking about Raktic .... that one packs bullets on both feet.


O pari

are you talking about modric.... Or you are just Barcelona biased.... Modric... Cannot shoot..... Eh eh..... Nothing we nor go hear fr nairaland.... Oga easy o

isan:
Some comment u guys made u can only do it on a Nigeria forum like nairaland go to international forum and make those claims . claims like

Mikel is on pirlo level
Iheanacho should bench aguero in man city
Ndidi is the best defensive midfielder in the world
Mikel is a world class player

tell them...

eterisan:
what's wrong with this one now.... Mek I jejely report am... I dnt v strength for rubbish...

you call pesin bonehead, come dey ask wetin dey worry am. Wetin dey worry you sef wey make you call am bonehead?

E be like say una don dey waka under sun for long .


Please, if the Ndidi argument has been exhausted and only insults are left of it, may we return to Iheanacho debate or something?


@Thegoodjoe, bros, I need help with translations of Efik terms. Shebi Edet is an Efik name?