TheGoodJoe:
First of all, thumbs up to everyone keeping this wonderful thread alive.

I think there is a misconception and I am also part of it.

The term World Class should be reserved for those who have done remarkable things in the game of football and for a long time.

With this, we can see the wonderkid Wilfred Ndidi is not yet World Class. The right term is a high quality talent with the potential of becoming World Class.

With this, Nemanja Matic is not World Class. Mbappe is not World Class but like Ndidi, has the potential to become World Class. So he goes into the bracket of High Quality talent.

Casemiro will take the Top Quality bracket while Neymar, Messi, CR7 and Aguero will take the term World Class.

Potential - Iheanacho, Gabriel Jesus, Ousmane Dembele

High quality - Ndidi, Matic (with time running out might not be tagged top quality, let alone World Class), Mbappe, Lukaku

Top quality - Pogba, Casemiro, Harry Kane, Suarez

World Class - Messi, CR7, Aguero

Icon4s:


I don't understand why some peeps do not understand this simple fact.

For a team that is blessed with so many DMs you still want to push Mikel to the DM position.

forgiveness:


If you can't answer the question then I know you are ignoramous.

Mujtahida:

Stop this Bro. Realpoacher says no English player has succeeded outside England. You mentioned some names and erroneously included Bale a Welshman and Lambert a Scot. Instead of you to accept your error when it was pointed out to you, you began talking UK and displaying your monstrous ignorance by saying they are not the same. Did realpoacher mention UK?
A Welsh is different from an English man. They speak different languages. A Scot is different from an Englishman. They speak different languages. They are different nationalities. The UK has never played one single sports competition. Not even one. But England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland are known in sports circles. Accept your error. It's pardonable.

tbaba1234:
Etebo is on the Las Palmas team to play Deportivo so Joel Obi, Ebuehi and Etebo are all fit.

COOL10:
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SMH. You gotta be kidding me

andrew444:


No b Messi for make the difference,is he not a Barca player? Maybe Chelsea fan expect drogba to make the difference,or na Chelsea dey pay Messi salary?

tbaba1234:
Etebo is on the Las Palmas team to play Deportivo so Joel Obi, Ebuehi and Etebo are all fit.

TheGoodJoe:
First of all, thumbs up to everyone keeping this wonderful thread alive.

I think there is a misconception and I am also part of it.

The term World Class should be reserved for those who have done remarkable things in the game of football and for a long time.

With this, we can see the wonderkid Wilfred Ndidi is not yet World Class. The right term is a high quality talent with the potential of becoming World Class.

With this, Nemanja Matic is not World Class. Mbappe is not World Class but like Ndidi, has the potential to become World Class. So he goes into the bracket of High Quality talent.

Casemiro will take the Top Quality bracket while Neymar, Messi, CR7 and Aguero will take the term World Class.

Potential - Iheanacho, Gabriel Jesus, Ousmane Dembele

High quality - Ndidi, Matic (with time running out might not be tagged top quality, let alone World Class), Mbappe, Lukaku

Top quality - Pogba, Casemiro, Harry Kane, Suarez

World Class - Messi, CR7, Aguero

TheGoodJoe:
England has tagged behind due to their illusion of believing that huff, puff, Kick and follow football was their identity. However, with the step up in promoting good technical football in the EPL, with the likes of Guardiola, Klopp, Conte and others, the English team will get better. The challenge they have in sticking to managers that play the old English brand of football while lots of their top players play under possessive managers.
Their academies are also promoting good football and with time, England will produce better quality players.

forgiveness:
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Gabriel Jesus should be in High quality.

Lukaku should move to top quality.

Matic should be moved to top quality.

Mbappe should also be moved to top quality.

Suarez is a world class player.

Pogba is also a world class player.

forgiveness:


Can you please tell me who is better than him in our national team currently?

TheGoodJoe:
First of all, thumbs up to everyone keeping this wonderful thread alive.

I think there is a misconception and I am also part of it.

The term World Class should be reserved for those who have done remarkable things in the game of football and for a long time.

With this, we can see the wonderkid Wilfred Ndidi is not yet World Class. The right term is a high quality talent with the potential of becoming World Class.

With this, Nemanja Matic is not World Class. Mbappe is not World Class but like Ndidi, has the potential to become World Class. So he goes into the bracket of High Quality talent.

Casemiro will take the Top Quality bracket while Neymar, Messi, CR7 and Aguero will take the term World Class.

Potential - Iheanacho, Gabriel Jesus, Ousmane Dembele

High quality - Ndidi, Matic (with time running out might not be tagged top quality, let alone World Class), Mbappe, Lukaku

Top quality - Pogba, Casemiro, Harry Kane, Suarez

World Class - Messi, CR7, Aguero

forgiveness:
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Gabriel Jesus should be in High quality.

Lukaku should move to top quality.

Matic should be moved to top quality.

Mbappe should also be moved to top quality.

Suarez is a world class player.

Pogba is also a world class player.

TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmmm... Sir Mujtahida. Please this has nothing to do with your discussion with Forgiveness oooo... I just wanna point out a little something on the bolded....

In London 2012, Team Great Britain (other wise called UK) presented a football team that had welsh and English footballers mainly dominating the team. But that Team GB represented all four home nations of UK (Wales, England, Northern Ireland and Scotland). Now this was a one-off and it is even unlikely that we may see Team GB play Olympic qualifiers because in international football circles outside the Olympics, England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland all have their individual national teams and will find it very difficult reaching a compromise sef.


Also at the Olympics, we see more of Great Britain in other sports but never England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales. Citizens of all four UK home nations (and the three crown depedencies- going deeper) compete under the GB flag (UK flag) in the Olympics.

But at the Commonwealth games, Wales compete under its own flag. Same with England, Scotland and Northern Ireland.


Just wanted to clear that. So uhmmm.. Nothing more to be said on my part. Just a little something I needed to point out.

forgiveness:


You be olodo.

Under what sovereignty is Scotland and Wales?

Who is the head?

What is their official language?

What is their official currency?

Make sure you answer the ones you could not answer previously along with these ones. Bhuuuhahaha!

andrew444:


Bros you are the most bias person I have ever seen .even a blind man will tell you Suarez is a world class player,there is no way aguero is better than Suarez,your analysis weak me.

TheGoodJoe:


I do not know why you decide to tag me bias when I clearly stated my criteria.

Aguero has reigned longer than Suarez. Suarez is very top quality but needs a few more years before I tag him World class.

Mickael2:



First of all, Aguero is world class but Suarez is top quality? . I know you are a city fan but not even Pep would be that ridiculous.

You place Casemiro as top quality but you want to put Matic in the 'potential' category? I mean Casemiro just became a regular for Madrid two seasons ago and he isn't indespensible. Matic has led Chelsea to premier league titles and is the bed rock of United's team right now but he isn't World Class? That is just....damn.

TheGoodJoe:
First of all, thumbs up to everyone keeping this wonderful thread alive.

I think there is a misconception and I am also part of it.

The term World Class should be reserved for those who have done remarkable things in the game of football and for a long time.

With this, we can see the wonderkid Wilfred Ndidi is not yet World Class. The right term is a high quality talent with the potential of becoming World Class.

With this, Nemanja Matic is not World Class. Mbappe is not World Class but like Ndidi, has the potential to become World Class. So he goes into the bracket of High Quality talent.

Casemiro will take the Top Quality bracket while Neymar, Messi, CR7 and Aguero will take the term World Class.

Potential - Iheanacho, Gabriel Jesus, Ousmane Dembele

High quality - Ndidi, Matic (with time running out might not be tagged top quality, let alone World Class), Mbappe, Lukaku

Top quality - Pogba, Casemiro, Harry Kane, Suarez

World Class - Messi, CR7, Aguero

TheGoodJoe:
First of all, thumbs up to everyone keeping this wonderful thread alive.

I think there is a misconception and I am also part of it.

The term World Class should be reserved for those who have done remarkable things in the game of football and for a long time.

With this, we can see the wonderkid Wilfred Ndidi is not yet World Class. The right term is a high quality talent with the potential of becoming World Class.

With this, Nemanja Matic is not World Class. Mbappe is not World Class but like Ndidi, has the potential to become World Class. So he goes into the bracket of High Quality talent.

Casemiro will take the Top Quality bracket while Neymar, Messi, CR7 and Aguero will take the term World Class.

Potential - Iheanacho, Gabriel Jesus, Ousmane Dembele

High quality - Ndidi, Matic (with time running out might not be tagged top quality, let alone World Class), Mbappe, Lukaku

Top quality - Pogba, Casemiro, Harry Kane, Suarez

World Class - Messi, CR7, Aguero

TheGoodJoe:


Even if Casemiro's reign at the top is brief, he has been part of a monumental side that broke football records in the highest point of Club football. Not just league title. Definitely a class above Matic.

Aguero has reigned longer than Suarez.

ClumsyFlimsy:
Players in epl that are world class no reach 5

And Aguero is certainly not among world class;
Person wey never win any reasonable trophy outside EPL

Person wey no fit who face for im national team. Always underperforming for Argentina


Someone is only worthy of world class when he proves himself against the big boys in ucl and world Cup, no be epl wey na muscle muscle and drag drag them sabi

Aguero and Harry Kane are not world class except by epl standards but real world class they ain't shit

Very soon Aguero no go dey see ball play.. Guardiola go bench him sorry ass.. because Guardiola no say na only power Aguero get


Compare the stats between Aguero and Suarez you go see difference and consistency


man city all time scorer yet na how many goals im get.. very soon Suarez barca goals go surpass Aguero all time goals

TheGoodJoe:


I do not know why you decide to tag me bias when I clearly stated my criteria.

Aguero has reigned longer than Suarez. Suarez is very top quality but needs a few more years before I tag him World class.

somehow:
This is so shameful of you. Your ignorance is smelling so bad I had to close my nose.

Mujtahida:

Forgiveness let this be the last time you will insult me. On this thread I am confident that I have never dished out bareface insult to anybody and if I have I am sure upon my attention being called to it, I apologised. You called me ignoramus in your post before this, I tactically shoved it. Now the bolded. Cos I see absolutely no need for insults in my exchanges with you. Don't EVER insult me again. Be warned.

@all, you guys are witnesses to the crude and needless insult by forgiveness cos if I go the road he wants me to go on this thread, you guys will be surprised cos its mud I going to pour out and it will surely foul up this place. I don't tolerate insults to my person especially in this instance where I have been as civil in my exchange with him.