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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:12am On Mar 16, 2018
Mujtahida:

Forgiveness let this be the last time you will insult me. On this thread I am confident that I have never dished out bareface insult to anybody and if I have I am sure upon my attention being called to it, I apologised. You called me ignoramus in your post before this, I tactically shoved it. Now the bolded. Cos I see absolutely no need for insults in my exchanges with you. Don't EVER insult me again. Be warned.

@all, you guys are witnesses to the crude and needless insult by forgiveness cos if I go the road he wants me to go on this thread, you guys will be surprised cos its mud I going to pour out and it will surely foul up this place. I don't tolerate insults to my person especially in this instance where I have been as civil in my exchange with him.

Mujtahida:

Stop this Bro. Realpoacher says no English player has succeeded outside England. You mentioned some names and erroneously included Bale a Welshman and Lambert a Scot. Instead of you to accept your error when it was pointed out to you, you began talking UK and displaying your monstrous ignorance by saying they are not the same. Did realpoacher mention UK?
A Welsh is different from an English man. They speak different languages. A Scot is different from an Englishman. They speak different languages. They are different nationalities. The UK has never played one single sports competition. Not even one. But England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland are known in sports circles. Accept your error. It's pardonable.

What is the meaning of the bolded?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:30am On Mar 16, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmmm... Sir Mujtahida. Please this has nothing to do with your discussion with Forgiveness oooo... I just wanna point out a little something on the bolded....

In London 2012, Team Great Britain (other wise called UK) presented a football team that had welsh and English footballers mainly dominating the team. But that Team GB represented all four home nations of UK (Wales, England, Northern Ireland and Scotland). Now this was a one-off and it is even unlikely that we may see Team GB play Olympic qualifiers because in international football circles outside the Olympics, England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland all have their individual national teams and will find it very difficult reaching a compromise sef.


Also at the Olympics, we see more of Great Britain in other sports but never England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales. Citizens of all four UK home nations (and the three crown depedencies- going deeper) compete under the GB flag (UK flag) in the Olympics.

But at the Commonwealth games, Wales compete under its own flag. Same with England, Scotland and Northern Ireland.


Just wanted to clear that. So uhmmm.. Nothing more to be said on my part. Just a little something I needed to point out. wink



Bravo. Thanks man.

But I know what I am heading to.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:46am On Mar 16, 2018
andrew444:


Suarez at 31 fewer more years ? You don kill me,there is no way aguero is better than Suarez

Suarez wey score pass Ronaldo and Messi last season wey collect the European golden shoe,you cannot hide that you are bias for you to say Suarez need more years,what are you saying,a 31 year old?

Aguero has reigned longer than Suarez? Now I know you only watch Epl,Suarez has been banging goals from Dutch league,you are an Epl fan boy.

Suarez arrive Europe 2006 at Groningen,while aguero arrive Europe same 2006 at ATM

Maybe when Suarez retire from football you will tag him world class

When the debate of who will replace Tevez when he left Manchester United for Manchester City, one name I hammered on Manchester United forums was Suarez. This was in 2009. This is to tell you I am actually a Suarez fan and was following him before he came close to the EPL.

Disheartening when I being a huge fan of Hector Cuper in 2000/2001 for Valencia, Irureta in the same era with La Coruna. Supported Van Gaal in his Ajax days. I switched from Manchester United to Manchester City because of I was a big fan of Mancini during his coaching days at Inter Milan and Lazio. Pathetic you can arise today and tag me an EPL fan boy.

SMH
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:08am On Mar 16, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


When the debate of who will replace Tevez when he left Manchester United for Manchester City, one name I hammered on Manchester United forums was Suarez. This was in 2009. This is to tell you I am actually a Suarez fan and was following him before he came close to the EPL.

Disheartening when I being a huge fan of Hector Cuper in 2000/2001 for Valencia, Irureta in the same era with La Coruna. Supported Van Gaal in his Ajax days. I switched from Manchester United to Manchester City because of I was a big fan of Mancini during his coaching days at Inter Milan and Lazio. Pathetic you can arise today and tag me an EPL fan boy.

SMH

I dey talk of who better pass you dey talk of hector cuper and co,if people in this whole world are 100 people only 2 people will tell you aguero is better than Suarez and you are among the 2,the remaining 98 will tell you Suarez is better,someone that come 4th in the last 2 ballon d or behind griezman and neymar,someone that won the European golden shoe ahead of Ronaldo and Messi,nobody won the European golden shoe apart from this 2 guys about 10 season before Suarez did.

You even have to say Suarez need time,a 31 year old ? Smh for you bros
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:19am On Mar 16, 2018
Enough of all dis Suarez,aguero,Great Britain, top quality,high quality argument DT wont take us anywhere.TheSupernerd one meme abeg grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:24am On Mar 16, 2018
Joebie:
My problem with you is you make calls for players who are not standout players in the Championship, League One, League Two etc. on what basis then? You don't earn a call up just because of the league you play. Even if you play in the EPL, you have to earn a call up by performance there as well. Backwater league or not, you need to perform. And even if you say you have watched the players in question and their that good bla bla bla, don't expect us to fall behind you.. you don't have enough stats to back it up..maybe you should post some videos etc that will add credibility to your position.. at the end of the day, all we see here are just black and white, or blue ( TheGoodJOe ). Be like tbaba, and back it up with videos etc at times. Which is why when tbaba says certain things, I take him more seriously.


I consider you to be informed, conversant and intelligent in the first instance.

Do you not think it will be of benefit to this discourse to be specific and not vague that way other contributors can understand a lot better and even validate your position.

Firstly, unfortunately as compared to the Golden years of the mid 1990's to the early Millennium. We simply don't have many outstanding players in the context of world football.

The proviso you give for selection and or unit of measurement for competence. Is problematic.

Let's forget about top teams for now.

One question ❓ HOW MANY NIGERIAN ORIGIN PLAYERS ARE OUTSTANDING CONSISTENT TOP PERFORMERS IN THIER RESPECTIVE LEAGUES.

Even when you include the backwater leagues of Turkey, Isreal, Cyprus, Holland, Austria, etc we simply do not have many.

This being the case in the absence of the desirable the available becomes desirable. If not for the dearth of quality strikers available to us. Our number one striker KC has scored once in the EPL this season that's not an inspiring statistic.

Our defenders in Turkey are not rated in the top three or best in that league.

Considering then the huge gap between the EPL, and arguably for some the Championship compared to these backwater leagues.

Is it therefore, irrational to then consider average or above average players and or outstanding Nigerian origin players in the English Championship and league one for the SE❓ Do not Forget that Dele Alli, Gomez, Ademola, all left league one straight to the EPL.

Finally, you can not compare scoring 10 goals in the Eredivisie to scoring 5 in the EPL, it's not the same level of quality.

Before I forget who are these players that I have called for that you think aren't good enough Be specific no generalisations please.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:27am On Mar 16, 2018
forgiveness:
Musa, goal goal
Nice one... Underrated player on this thtead

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:33am On Mar 16, 2018
PDPGuy:
Guys, will this line up and formation work for the SE in Russia?

———-Balogun——Ekong——-Awaziem——-

—-Ebuehi——--Etebo——Ndidi—-—Idowu——

—————————Mikel——————-

————Victor Moses————-Iheanacho——-
Nice one but can Etebo really be as disciplined as Ogu as the deep lying DM?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:34am On Mar 16, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
England has tagged behind due to their illusion of believing that huff, puff, Kick and follow football was their identity. However, with the step up in promoting good technical football in the EPL, with the likes of Guardiola, Klopp, Conte and others, the English team will get better. The challenge they have in sticking to managers that play the old English brand of football while lots of their top players play under possessive managers.

Their academies are also promoting good football and with time, England will produce better quality players.

This is very true.

They are investing in the young across the top academies in England. For instance the head of coaching for Liverpool fc U9 - U12 is the former assistant coach of Sao Paulo in Brazil.

Wenger once said if a boy is not taught to individually play technically proficient football by the age of 12 it's near impossible after that.

And a very good number of them are of Nigerian origin so the future is still bright.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:34am On Mar 16, 2018
elyte89:
Enough of all dis Suarez,aguero,Great Britain, top quality,high quality argument DT wont take us anywhere.The.Supernerd one meme abeg grin

Ehhhhhh......

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:36am On Mar 16, 2018
elyte89:






It will only work on FIFA/PES 18,WHERE IS IGHALO AND ONAZI? grin
I don't even see both Ighalo and Iwobi on the bench at the same time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:44am On Mar 16, 2018
tbaba1234:


Not a bad lineup.. personally i will move Balogun to the middle of the defence.

I will also like to see how Joel works with Onazi and Ndidi. Can we play without Mikel?
That is a big question my brother

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:48am On Mar 16, 2018
edi287:

One option is to swap Mikel and Etebo in order to help with build up play or Ogu/Joel Obi (if he makes the team) for Etebo.
Good thoughts but Ibdont see that happening. Mikel seems destined for that AM role
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:48am On Mar 16, 2018
ClumsyFlimsy:
This Suarez talk not being world class pain me die angry

And to think the same guy that made such lame utterances believe Pogba is world class

Man Utd Pogba is no where near world class he is just a product if hype


In fact people don't know that there only a handful EPL world class.. the rest are just over hyped piece of trash

I don't like Neymar but whenever epl Fanboys say hazard is better the thing dey irritate me


I repeat epl players are over hyped and only few will thrive outside England. They are just a bunch of headless chickens running about without tactical acumen. Little wonder they don't produce world best players and hardly perform well in champions League this days.

Despite all their lame rantings saying Guardiola can't do anything in epl say na epl this epl that yet now everybody done mellow.. Guardiola has exposed England


Epl farmers league cheesy


So after all the posts you have read on the thread you still haven't down loaded contemporary understanding into your vision. It seems you are operating on DOS when we are on Windows 10.

Please upgrade and down load.

Firstly, the EPL is entirely unique in comparison to any other top league across the globe.

The EPL is an international league flooded with international players and managers. I am certain there are more foreign players in the EPL than any other league in the World.

Most of the top six EPL teams struggle to play more than 5 Engliish players in thier match day squad at any one time. There have been occasion when some EPL teams have just 2 or 3 English outfield players.

Pogba is just hype according to you. I knew him at United when he was frozen out packed off to Juventus went from U21 straight to first team becoming the most dominant box to box midfielder in Sierra A. And you call that hype Do not look at his limited role in United with Mourinho stifling his ability just as he did to our only world top class player in Mikel Obi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:58am On Mar 16, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Nice one but can Etebo really be as disciplined as Ogu as the deep lying DM?

Ogu is limited for me predictable admittedly assured but his lack of pace is a liability for me. His ability to recover is very suspect particularly against pacy midfielders.

He struggles to turn from defence into attack.

We already have one slow midfield player in Mikel who will not run back to recover. In this regard having Ogu could see us concede the midfield very quickly.

Etebo brings indisciplined unpredictability he creates uncertainty in the opponents he has pace and makes midfielder double team on him. My view he who dares wins, I prefer Etebo.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 10:02am On Mar 16, 2018
how people think we can actually play without a mikel is funny..apart from mikel which other player in that midfield is a 'brain'?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:03am On Mar 16, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Taking Mikel behind will cut off supply to the striking players. It is better he plays behind the strike force.
Exactly my thoughts bro. No player possess the magnitude of vision, precise passing and ball retention ability like Mikel in that team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:09am On Mar 16, 2018
elyte89:
Tbaba1234,read somewhere DT England has released deir list for the upcoming friendly games,but TAMMY NAME WAS CONSPICUOUSLY MISSING!..CONFIRM BOSS wink

I don't think his name was conspicuously absent at all. It was NEVER EVER GOING TO BE THERE.

Tega has not performed you do not get invited to the three lions on past glories as an outfield player. You must be consistently performing and he has not.

Furthermore, England have many strike options unlike Nigeria. In this regard if he had been wise and chosen Nigeria from the word go he would most likely be on the plane to Russia.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:11am On Mar 16, 2018
realpoacher:


No mind those myopic English fan boys. Once you don't cut it in England you don't know how to play football. But they will never see that what they parade as stars are waste product!.

See how they almost finished Musa's career, but thank God for Rohr, now the guy is back inform and playing in the Europa league!

Imagine 3 out of five English clubs crashing out in just the second round of the UCL
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:13am On Mar 16, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Taking Mikel behind will cut off supply to the striking players. It is better he plays behind the strike force.

Agreed unreservedly.

Furthermore Mikel does not have the pace to to make defensive recovery runs and I suspect even the stamina to do that for 90 minutes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 10:16am On Mar 16, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 10:18am On Mar 16, 2018
komekn:


Ogu is limited for me predictable admittedly assured but his lack of pace is a liability for me. His ability to recover is very suspect particularly against pacy midfielders.

He struggles to turn from defence into attack.

We already have one slow midfield player in Mikel who will not run back to recover. In this regard having Ogu could see us concede the midfield very quickly.

Etebo brings indisciplined unpredictability he creates uncertainty in the opponents he has pace and makes midfielder double team on him. My view he who dares wins, I prefer Etebo.


i will like if these characteristic is for our attackers or attacking midfielders not a supposedly defensive one as European teams have a way of punishing those type of players

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:21am On Mar 16, 2018
realpoacher:


No mind those myopic English fan boys. Once you don't cut it in England you don't know how to play football. But they will never see that what they parade as stars are waste product!.
[b]
See how they almost finished Musa's career, [/b]but thank God for Rohr, now the guy is back inform and playing in the Europa league!


The same England that finished the careers of Mikel Obi, Victor Moses, Wilfred Ndidi, Odion Ighalo, Kelechi Iheanacho, Ola Aina The players who are the bedrock of the SE.

I enjoin you to expand your horizon and consider the possibility that Musa was simply not good enough for Leicester and the EPL.

He has now found his level in a much less competitive and physically taxing league where he can thrive. But with regards to the challenge of the EPL he just was not able to cut it. The EPL is not for every player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:21am On Mar 16, 2018
edi287:

Need someone to build from deep. Iwobi can take Etebo place if it comes to that. Unless J Obi or Ogu replaces Etebo
Ndidi can create the buildups from deep, bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:25am On Mar 16, 2018
edi287:

Need someone to build from deep. Iwobi can take Etebo place if it comes to that. Unless J Obi or Ogu replaces Etebo

I feel that Iwobi has a better passing range and vision than Etebo. However, when the chips are down Etebo brings explosive unpredictability that gets defenders scared, he gives us the ability to play gra gra football as some have mentioned here.

Who would I choose it depends on the opponents and the mood Iwobi is in because sometimes he goes missing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:26am On Mar 16, 2018
asha80:


i will like if these characteristic is for our attackers or attacking midfielders not a supposedly defensive one as European teams have a way of punishing those type of players

I would never play Etebo in a defender role.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:44am On Mar 16, 2018
mazimee:


If na same thing, why dem come dey wear different country jersey? undecided undecided
England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland. All these are different countries. But they have one thing in common: They are the United Kingdom or British counties due to their historical and political mutualities and relationships.

Another instance is Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Faroe Islands. These are Scandinavian countries as a unit but they are different as countries.

Got it?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:45am On Mar 16, 2018
mazimee:


Ali is average, though improving

Are you really serious

Dele is average, a player wanted by Barca and the creme de La creme of Europes top teams and you call him average.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 10:48am On Mar 16, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland. All these are different countries. But they have one thing in common: They are the United Kingdom or British counties.

Another instance is Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Faroe Islands. These are Scandinavian countries as a unit but they are different as countries.

Got it?

ireland has broken away from UK
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 10:49am On Mar 16, 2018
asha80:
how people think we can actually play without a mikel is funny..apart from mikel which other player in that midfield is a 'brain'?
komekn:


Ogu is limited for me predictable admittedly assured but his lack of pace is a liability for me. His ability to recover is very suspect particularly against pacy midfielders.

He struggles to turn from defence into attack.

We already have one slow midfield player in Mikel who will not run back to recover. In this regard having Ogu could see us concede the midfield very quickly.

Etebo brings indisciplined unpredictability he creates uncertainty in the opponents he has pace and makes midfielder double team on him. My view he who dares wins, I prefer Etebo.


When he retires then una eyes go see. Mikel is not indispensable. We have been winning matches before him, & after him we will still win. He has a poor recovery rate in the SE as far as am concern.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:54am On Mar 16, 2018
asha80:

ireland has broken away from UK
source?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 11:01am On Mar 16, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
source?
this is a sports thread so i will not want to flood this place with non sports related item but google 'irish independence 1922' or follow this link http://www.theirishstory.com/2012/09/18/the-irish-war-of-independence-a-brief-overview/#.WquVwyUh3IU

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