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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:28am On Mar 16, 2018
GBTYO:


Oyoroba!
how far my osu friend whats the meaning of osu

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:30am On Mar 16, 2018
GBTYO:


Oyoroba!
how far my osu friend. What’s the meaning of osu

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by GBTYO: 10:31am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
how far my osu friend whats the meaning of osu

Oyoruba, dont you think it is high time you seek your true name?

Maybe from there you can liberate yourselves

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:31am On Mar 16, 2018
GBTYO:


The Germans dont go about calling themselves Germans neither is their nation refereed to as Germany by them but Deutschland.

The area known as Germany today was referred to as Bavaria

Oyoruba slave
really so people from Germany doesn’t refer to themselves as German well am honored to learn from ur vast knowledge about things

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:32am On Mar 16, 2018
GBTYO:


Oyoruba, dont you think it is high time you seek your true name?

Maybe from there you can liberate yourselves

how far now wat does osu mean

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by GBTYO: 10:32am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
really so people from Germany doesn’t refer to themselves as German well am honored to learn from ur vast knowledge about things

Germans call themselves Deutsche and not German

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:33am On Mar 16, 2018
GBTYO:


Oyoruba, dont you think it is high time you seek your true name?

Maybe from there you can liberate yourselves

so if Hausa call us oyoroba and we call ourselves Yoruba perhaps we have change it hmm

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:34am On Mar 16, 2018
KwaraRat:
The word "Yoruba" does not have any meaning in the language of the Olukumi People but traces it's origins from the mockery the Hausa/Fulani jihadist used in describing the once great race after they had sacked Oyo Ile (the capital of the old Oyo empire) and annexed Ilorin for the Sokoto Caliphate.

The word Yoruba is derived from the two words: Oyo and Oba and from the Hausa/Fulani dialect was pronounced "Oyoroba" and was a direct mockery of how they (Hausa Fulanis) captured Ilorin, killed Afonja and the Oba of old Oyo.

How the Olukumin peope will accept a known derogatory mockery as the name of their race baffles me.

Please stop this. The Olukumi people are Igbos of the Niger Delta. Stop cursing your fellow Igbos.

In fact, stop tribalism. The South needs to unite, not all this tribalistic nonsense.

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by GBTYO: 10:34am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
how far now wat does osu mean

all these time you are wasting mentioning me would have been used to go seek your real collective national name.

Oyoruba

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:34am On Mar 16, 2018
GBTYO:


Germans call themselves Deutsche and not German
really so nobody from Germany refer to themselves as German hmm

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by GBTYO: 10:36am On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:


Please stop this. The Olukumi people are Igbos of the Niger Delta. Stop cursing your fellow Igbos.

In fact, stop tribalism. The South needs to unite, not all this tribalistic nonsense.

fuxk off my mentions you this buhari cow using fake Igbo presidency after 2023 to decieve yourself

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:36am On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:


Please stop this. The Olukumi people are Igbos of the Niger Delta. Stop cursing your fellow Igbos.

In fact, stop tribalism. The South needs to unite, not all this tribalistic nonsense.
are u mad which olukumi is ibo

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:37am On Mar 16, 2018
GBTYO:


all these time you are wasting mentioning me would have been used to go seek your real collective national name.

Oyoruba
is osu ur collective name

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by GBTYO: 10:38am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
really so nobody from Germany refer to themselves as German hmm

That is not their original name.

What do Germans call both their Nation and Language?

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:41am On Mar 16, 2018
GBTYO:


That is not their original name.

What do Germans call both their Nation and Language?

the call their language and refer to themselves as German there is a even popular song by a German titled “we are the German”

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:42am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
are u mad which olukumi is ibo
Olukumi has their present homeland deep in Delta part of Igbo Land. Name any other place in Africa where it is spoken indigenously apart from Anaocha Local Government in the Igbo part of Delta State.

The other people that speak it are the descendants of the Olucumis that were taken to America during the Transatlantic Slave Trade.

Olucumi is an ancient Igbo Language.

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:44am On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:
Olukumi has their present homeland deep in Delta part of Igbo Land. Name any other place in Africa where it is spoken indigenously apart from Anaocha Local Government in the Igbo part of Delta State.

The other people that speak it are the descendants of the Olucumis that were taken to America during the Transatlantic Slave Trade.

Olucumi is an ancient Igbo Language.
lol can ibo understand Olukwumi language

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by ayzTIGER: 10:45am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
yoruba name was given by the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba not Hausa and even Hausa ipob youth accuse of being illiterate know this but somehow osu that are not illiterate doesn’t know. Makes me wonder who really is the illiterate
sharap.. your a product of Hausa Fulani.

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:47am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
lol can ibo understand Olukwumi language
Olukwumi is the language of the Igbo aborigines of Ile Ife Moremi Ajesoro contended with in the 10th century.

There is a book about the whole thing, including the origin of the name Olukwumi (Nya na o lukwu mu?)

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:47am On Mar 16, 2018
ayzTIGER:
sharap.. your a product of Hausa Fulani.
. Stop crying u only wish lol

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:49am On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:

Olukwumi is the language of the Igbo aborigines of Ile Ife Moremi Ajesoro contended with in the 10th century.

There is a book about the whole thing, including the origin of the name Olukwumi (Nya na o lukwu mu?)
i will not continue this topic with u coz it seems u are more dumber than the other ibo in this thread. At least the others are worth trolling but u take the cake as being the most ridiculous lol

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by ayzTIGER: 10:53am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
. Stop crying u only wish lol
I wonder who is crying whether is me or the Oyoruba that cowardly accepted to be called a funny name imposed on him by one Fulani man

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:56am On Mar 16, 2018
ayzTIGER:
I wonder who is crying whether is me or the Oyoruba that cowardly accepted to be called a funny name imposed on him by one Fulani man
u are the one crying coz countless time u have been corrected about the origin of the name Yoruba but u still keep repeating the same thing if that’s not painment I don’t know what is but i enjoy ur painment so please don’t stop lol

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:58am On Mar 16, 2018
Alright enough osu trolling for the day for me. Am out of this thread

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by ayzTIGER: 11:01am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
u are the one crying coz countless time u have been corrected about the origin of the name Yoruba but u still keep repeating the same thing if that’s not painment I don’t know what is but i enjoy ur painment so please don’t stop lol
I wonder the kind of funny name Dahomey girls would have named you had it been they came before the Fulanis

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by 0monnak0da: 11:08am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
ojukwu stop acting like u know history. The name Yoruba was given by the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba in his book and was only popularized by Hausa to refer to people of oyo. Hausa did not sack Oyo Ile the nupe did and no oba of oyo was killed. I don’t know where ipob get their history facts maybe there is an alternative facts privy only to ipob that the rest of the world doesn’t know about.

This is just wrong .
There is no evidence that an person GAVE the name . That any person RECORDED the name allegedly is not the same as giving the name.
The name Yoruba was generally applied to Oyo people and or close Northern Yoruba groups it did not Apply to Egba,Ijebu Ekiti etc.
The evidence for this is in the Oriki of these groups and this is why we advocate teaching Yoruba to young people. A lot of these orikis are on YouTube study them.
Whether the word Yoruba was applied to Oyo people by Ijebus,Ekitis Egbas or even Edo is debatable and would probably never be unravelled but the Oyo people exclusively used to be known as Yoruba and I have met in my lifetime old people (now deceased) refer to Abaja as Ila Yoruba(Oyo tribal marks)
It is only after colonizatiion and Nigeria that everyone came to be known as Yoruba.In Benin for long they were know as Nago or Anago.
It is Nigeria that forced this Yoruba identity on everyone but historically it was the Oyos and arguably this name was applied to them by any one of their neighbours whether from the Oduduwa group or not no one knows

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 11:10am On Mar 16, 2018
ayzTIGER:
I wonder the kind of funny name Dahomey girls would have named you had it been they came before the Fulanis
dahomey were already known to yorubas already before the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba coined the name Yoruba and was popularized by Hausa not Fulani. Read history ojukwu read ignorance will not save u lol. Please show more pain on this thread regarding the great documented Yoruba history i love it. Am out of this thread

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 11:15am On Mar 16, 2018
0monnak0da:


This is just wrong .
There is no evidence that an person GAVE the name . That any person RECORDED the name allegedly is not the same as giving the name.
The name Yoruba was generally applied to Oyo people and or close Northern Yoruba groups it did not Apply to Egba,Ijebu Ekiti etc.
The evidence for this is in the Oriki of these groups and this is why we advocate teaching Yoruba to young people. A lot of these orikis are on YouTube study them.
Whether the word Yoruba was applied to Oyo people by Ijebus,Ekitis Egbas or even Edo is debatable and would probably never be unravelled but the Oyo people exclusively used to be known as Yoruba and I have met in my lifetime old people (now deceased) refer to Abaja as Ila Yoruba(Oyo tribal marks)
It is only after colonizatiion and Nigeria that everyone came to be known as Yoruba.In Benin for long they were know as Nago or Anago.
It is Nigeria that forced this Yoruba identity on everyone but historically it was the Oyos and arguably this name was applied to them by any one of their neighbours whether from the Oduduwa group or not no one knows
that’s what I meant it was recorded by the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba and it’s typically associated with him as the giver of the name but i also doubt he gave it too coz my gf is from porto novo Benin and she told me that her own clan are know as just Yoruba nothing more like egba or ijebu just Yoruba so u could be very right but wat am certain is it’s not given by Hausa or Fulani and not every Yoruba is known as Nago too there are also more clan. Listen to zeynab song a Yoruba singer from Benin republic she refers collectively as omo Yoruba so it’s wrong to also say Nigeria forced it on us to a certain extent we accepted it coz we are one and the same people

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by 0monnak0da: 11:23am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
that’s what I meant it was recorded by the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba and it’s typically associated with him as the giver of the name but i also doubt he gave it too coz my gf is from porto novo Benin and she told me that her own clan are know as just Yoruba nothing more like egba or ijebu just Yoruba so u could be very right but wat am certain is it’s not given by Hausa or Fulani and not every Yoruba is known as Nago too there are also more clan.

The more common description in Benin used to be Nago or Anago or Ana probably it has changed with the influence of Nigeria.

These terms were used to describe now Yoruba peoples by the Spanish and Portuguese in their earlier records centuries ago

It is important to emphasize the difference between language and identity

Austrians ,Swiss,Italy Lichtenstein and Luxembourg is home to Deutsch speakers but they do not identify as German just as not all speakers of Arabic are not Arabs

Generally the Yoruba language was known as Anago

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by ayzTIGER: 11:24am On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
dahomey were already known to yorubas already before the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba coined the name Yoruba and was popularized by Hausa not Fulani. Read history ojukwu read ignorance will not save u lol. Please show more pain on this thread regarding the great documented Yoruba history i love it. Am out of this thread
My man don't take this too serious. Inugo

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 11:33am On Mar 16, 2018
0monnak0da:


The more common description in Benin used to be Nago or Anago or Ana probably it has changed with the influence of Nigeria.

These terms were used to describe now Yoruba peoples by the Spanish and Portuguese in their earlier records centuries ago

It is important to emphasize the difference between language and identity

Austrians ,Swiss,Italy Lichtenstein and Luxembourg is home to Deutsch speakers but they do not identify as German just as not all speakers of Arabic are not Arabs

Generally the Yoruba language was known as Anago
am telling u there is nago and anago this are Yoruba people in the center of Benin republic the Ana are in Togo but a certain Yoruba clan in Porto novo ajashe are just known as Yoruba nothing else no sub like ijebu or ekiti just Yoruba thats their identity i know what am talking about although Porto novo is near Nigeria that could be an explanation but they identify as Yoruba only

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Firstpage: 11:34am On Mar 16, 2018
GBTYO:


What does "Yoruba" mean in your yoruba tongue?

Oyoroba!


What the hell is oyoroba? What does it mean.

I'm Yoruba and I know what it means to me.

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