TheSuperNerd:
Super Eagles in Europe

It will be Alex Iwobi vs Ahmed Musa in the UEFA Europa league quarters....

Arsenal vs CSKA Moscow....

MetalJigsaw:
People, How do you assess Victor Moses' present attacking brilliance, as he's been a permanent Wingback and never a winger at Chelsea which I want to believe is one of those factors affecting his current form particularly when going forward. I just hope it wont affect his confidence as he's that one player who constantly shoulders our attacking responsibilities in the SE the most.

forgiveness:

There are still some players ahead of him.

TheGoodJoe:
First of all, thumbs up to everyone keeping this wonderful thread alive.

I think there is a misconception and I am also part of it.

The term World Class should be reserved for those who have done remarkable things in the game of football and for a long time.

With this, we can see the wonderkid Wilfred Ndidi is not yet World Class. The right term is a high quality talent with the potential of becoming World Class.

With this, Nemanja Matic is not World Class. Mbappe is not World Class but like Ndidi, has the potential to become World Class. So he goes into the bracket of High Quality talent.

Casemiro will take the Top Quality bracket while Neymar, Messi, CR7 and Aguero will take the term World Class.

Potential - Iheanacho, Gabriel Jesus, Ousmane Dembele

High quality - Ndidi, Matic (with time running out might not be tagged top quality, let alone World Class), Mbappe, Lukaku

Top quality - Pogba, Casemiro, Harry Kane, Suarez

World Class - Messi, CR7, Aguero

MetalJigsaw:
People, How do you assess Victor Moses' present attacking brilliance, as he's been a permanent Wingback and never a winger at Chelsea which I want to believe is one of those factors affecting his current form particularly when going forward. I just hope it wont affect his confidence as he's that one player who constantly shoulders our attacking responsibilities in the SE the most.

MetalJigsaw:
Exactly my thoughts bro. No player possess the magnitude of vision, precise passing and ball retention ability like Mikel in that team.

PDPGuy:
Guys, will this line up and formation work for the SE in Russia?

———-Balogun——Ekong——-Awaziem——-

—-Ebuehi——--Etebo——Ndidi—-—Idowu——

—————————Mikel——————-

————Victor Moses————-Iheanacho——-

realpoacher:
EPL fan boys how far?

What do you have to say about Football.....extremely good football existing outside England?

What do you have to say about kick & follow, brute, rush rush, power, and 'anywhere belle face' football?

What do you have to say about Spanish teams dominating and winning the UCL 8 times in 18 years since 2000s?

What do you have to say about having an all spanish finals 4 times out of those years?

what do you have to say concerning spanish teams dominating the Europa leagues all those years too?

Or would you say that the second top half of the EPL cant stand toe -to- toe with their spanish counterpath?


when we tell you that football doesnt start and end in England , you lots wont hear...SMH

When we tell you to remove your tongues from the English ass, you lots wont hear


Ever wondered why no English descent or bred players never survived in other leagues?

the answer is simple....The English dont know how to play football....Their football orientation is wack therefore it cannot survived outside England.

Take Raheem Sterling to Spain, Germany, Italy and watch him flop

take Harry Kane to Spain, Germany, Italy, France and Portugal and watch him become a shadow of himself....this is not me being bais, rather the results are there for all to see...from Beckam, to others in the time past,....no English player ever succeeded outside England....FACT!!! Outsiders succed in England but not English players succeeding in other countries. Yet some English fan boys wants me to take football in England serious..... tufiaka....that aint happenning

For so long, Lampard was lured out to other leagues, He refused to go..., ofcourse he couldnt because he then what awaited him


i have said it before and i will keep saying it.......the only reason why top English teams beat top teams from the backwater leagues is POWER & PACE!

With power & pace they bulldozed their way through those poor teams from the 'backwater leagues' while feeling 'funky' like they have arrived... But when they meet their mates, the top teams of the other 5 top tier leagues then they crumble like a pack of cards.

Do you know why they crumble?


They crumble because they met their match in Power & Pace but they fall short of TECHNICALITY, INTELLIGENCE, FOOTBALL SENSE

Yes!....English football lacks technicality, inteligence and football sense. They have no football sense whatsoever, thats why they play kick and follow football, thats why they play 'anywhere belle face' football.

Presently only Pep is playing football in England and the difference is clear. They say la liga is a two horse race yet they cant even beat the others left behind by Madrid & Barca. ...Doesnt tell you that if all English teams were in the Laliga, they will all be playing catch up too?

They say Bayern munich cannot win premeirship with 5 matches to spare,...the same Pep who was in charge of Bayern then is in charge of Man city today, see how all other premiership teams are gasping at straws.

They say la liga is boring but the EPL is the most competetive, the most exciting interesting, bla bla bla.... and i ask, why wont it seem interesting when 19 average teams slugging it out in mediocrity week in week out with the ever reliable English press acting as an event ORATOR praising them to high heavens, decieving them, keeping them perpetually disillusioned.

I repaet, English football in its original terms is CRAP!

The EPL is what it is today because of the Foreigners in it,... Take the Foreigners out of it and it will become like ukrainian league or the Turkish league at best

Icon4s:


I am not yet sold on this back 3 formation.

Let's see the team execute it in another friendly.

DrKlever:
I just served my first nairaland ban. eteresan i hope you're happy now?

nelszx:
Those looking for how to see the Poland vs Nigeria friendly
If terrestrial stations won't broadcast
Please download mobdro app and stream live

mazimee:



What should people like me wey don Chop ban like crazy even doing things that I know will get me ban do?
Whinning like this feeds such people's ego.

Ordinary Nairaland ban? don't take it personal bro. Dem no ban your destiny

komekn:


I consider you to be informed, conversant and intelligent in the first instance.

Do you not think it will be of benefit to this discourse to be specific and not vague that way other contributors can understand a lot better and even validate your position.

Firstly, unfortunately as compared to the Golden years of the mid 1990's to the early Millennium. We simply don't have many outstanding players in the context of world football.

The proviso you give for selection and or unit of measurement for competence. Is problematic.

Let's forget about top teams for now.

One question ❓ HOW MANY NIGERIAN ORIGIN PLAYERS ARE OUTSTANDING CONSISTENT TOP PERFORMERS IN THIER RESPECTIVE LEAGUES.

Even when you include the backwater leagues of Turkey, Isreal, Cyprus, Holland, Austria, etc we simply do not have many.

This being the case in the absence of the desirable the available becomes desirable. If not for the dearth of quality strikers available to us. Our number one striker KC has scored once in the EPL this season that's not an inspiring statistic.

Our defenders in Turkey are not rated in the top three or best in that league.

Considering then the huge gap between the EPL, and arguably for some the Championship compared to these backwater leagues.

Is it therefore, irrational to then consider average or above average players and or outstanding Nigerian origin players in the English Championship and league one for the SE❓ Do not Forget that Dele Alli, Gomez, Ademola, all left league one straight to the EPL.

Finally, you can not compare scoring 10 goals in the Eredivisie to scoring 5 in the EPL, it's not the same level of quality.

Before I forget who are these players that I have called for that you think aren't good enough Be specific no generalisations please.

nelszx:
Those looking for how to see the Poland vs Nigeria friendly
If terrestrial stations won't broadcast
Please download mobdro app and stream live

Icon79:
I thank God for Bein Sports, yo. They were the only reason why I didn't switch my cable company this year. Xfinity doesn't have Bein Sport, so I decided to stick with Verizon Fios even though switch was gonna save me almost $20 per month!


O pari

safarigirl:
we all need to be able to differentiate between a fact and an insult on this thread



You made an unforgivably ignorant statement that the likes of Wales and Scotland fall under England. So, yes, that is, in fact, displaying monstrous ignorance. It is not in any way an insult.

Loogan:
Quick question my brothers.
Of all the top talents coming through the SE Who are the top three youngsters less than 22, whom you guys feel has the highest POTENTIAL based on talent, mentality and ability? there are too many exciting young talents but I would like to get you guys opinion?
NB Putting thier all round game into consideration and not based on current performance or playing position.
In no particular order

KELECHI NWAKALI(his class on the ball and vision is the closest Iv seen to okochas! Confident, and he's a beauty to watch, certainly going to be a world class someday

HENRY ONYEKURU(his dribblings are already mesmerizing enough plus his deadly finishing, he's too special)

ETEBO(choose him over nacho coz with his style of play there's no club he can't play for, also has so plenty strengths in his game, his potential is frightening)

TheGoodJoe:
First of all, thumbs up to everyone keeping this wonderful thread alive.

I think there is a misconception and I am also part of it.

The term World Class should be reserved for those who have done remarkable things in the game of football and for a long time.

With this, we can see the wonderkid Wilfred Ndidi is not yet World Class. The right term is a high quality talent with the potential of becoming World Class.

With this, Nemanja Matic is not World Class. Mbappe is not World Class but like Ndidi, has the potential to become World Class. So he goes into the bracket of High Quality talent.

Casemiro will take the Top Quality bracket while Neymar, Messi, CR7 and Aguero will take the term World Class.

Potential - Iheanacho, Gabriel Jesus, Ousmane Dembele

High quality - Ndidi, Matic (with time running out might not be tagged top quality, let alone World Class), Mbappe, Lukaku

Top quality - Pogba, Casemiro, Harry Kane, Suarez

World Class - Messi, CR7, Aguero

TheSuperNerd:


Ehhhhhh......

MetalJigsaw:
People, How do you assess Victor Moses' present attacking brilliance, as he's been a permanent Wingback and never a winger at Chelsea which I want to believe is one of those factors affecting his current form particularly when going forward. I just hope it wont affect his confidence as he's that one player who constantly shoulders our attacking responsibilities in the SE the most.

komekn:


Are you really serious

Dele is average, a player wanted by Barca and the creme de La creme of Europes top teams and you call him average.

Joebie:
Unfortunately I will be in Naija by then.
Wish my Kodi could come handy. But will figure something out.

ClumsyFlimsy:
Players in epl that are world class no reach 5

And Aguero is certainly not among world class;
Person wey never win any reasonable trophy outside EPL

Person wey no fit who face for im national team. Always underperforming for Argentina


Someone is only worthy of world class when he proves himself against the big boys in ucl and world Cup, no be epl wey na muscle muscle and drag drag them sabi

Aguero and Harry Kane are not world class except by epl standards but real world class they ain't shit

Very soon Aguero no go dey see ball play.. Guardiola go bench him sorry ass.. because Guardiola no say na only power Aguero get


Compare the stats between Aguero and Suarez you go see difference and consistency


man city all time scorer yet na how many goals im get.. very soon Suarez barca goals go surpass Aguero all time goals

ClumsyFlimsy:
Players in epl that are world class no reach 5

And Aguero is certainly not among world class;
Person wey never win any reasonable trophy outside EPL

Person wey no fit who face for im national team. Always underperforming for Argentina


Someone is only worthy of world class when he proves himself against the big boys in ucl and world Cup, no be epl wey na muscle muscle and drag drag them sabi

Aguero and Harry Kane are not world class except by epl standards but real world class they ain't shit

Very soon Aguero no go dey see ball play.. Guardiola go bench him sorry ass.. because Guardiola no say na only power Aguero get


Compare the stats between Aguero and Suarez you go see difference and consistency


man city all time scorer yet na how many goals im get.. very soon Suarez barca goals go surpass Aguero all time goals

tbaba1234:


Not a bad lineup.. personally i will move Balogun to the middle of the defence.

I will also like to see how Joel works with Onazi and Ndidi. Can we play without Mikel?

asha80:


it still does not negate the fact the mikel is the only 'brain' for now in this team going to the world cup until maybe i see what joel obi can do..indispensible is not so much the issue but whether when push comes to shove against some uncompromising european defence whether other players of 'less brain' in our team can deliver..winning matches before him does not really matter here after all brazil largely qualified for usa 94 without any input from romario but he had to be brought back before the final qualifier against uruguay after their coach perreira and romario reached a compromise because romario was simply the best brazillian striker then.

Loogan:
Quick question my brothers.
Of all the top talents coming through the SE Who are the top three youngsters less than 22, whom you guys feel has the highest POTENTIAL based on talent, mentality and ability? there are too many exciting young talents but I would like to get you guys opinion?
NB Putting thier all round game into consideration and not based on current performance or playing position.
In no particular order

KELECHI NWAKALI(his class on the ball and vision is the closest Iv seen to okochas! Confident, and he's a beauty to watch, certainly going to be a world class someday

HENRY ONYEKURU(his dribblings are already mesmerizing enough plus his deadly finishing, he's too special)

ETEBO(choose him over nacho coz with his style of play there's no club he can't play for, also has so plenty strengths in his game, his potential is frightening)