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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 5:56pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
0monnak0da: Stop muddling up issues. The original Yoruba boundaries extend from The coast of present day Ghana to Warri, Delta state Nigeria. Territories were lost in time on three fronts viz; (1) Fulani Jihad invasion from the northern front (2)Benin Kingdom invasion from the eastern front (3)Colonial powers division of Yorubaland on the western front along the coast of West Africa from Ghana to Nigeria. Most Nigerians especially Yorubas don't know this since history is no longer being taught in our schools. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Yyeske(m): 5:58pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
0monnak0da:Stop the merry go round abeg, give me names of people and places in Yorubaland with Yoruba prefix or suffix, don't let me believe the name Yoruba was actually imposed on you since you have no name suitable enough for your people. I've given you some examples in Igboland and you are yet to mention just one in Yorubaland. 3 Likes |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by 0monnak0da: 6:02pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Yyeske:What you are suggesting proves the opposite. Nigeria was ascribed externally. Bearing names that mean nothin in your language for a town confirms colonzation. Igbo means slave or Bush dweller 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by 0monnak0da: 6:03pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
rlauncher:I will not convince you and you will not convince me can we close or is there more? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Strikethem: 6:06pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
GBTYO:Guy, why shooting yourself in the foot. Mocking your own tribe people 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Yyeske(m): 6:07pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
0monnak0da:It's obvious to everyone here that Yoruba was actually imposed on you, Nigeria has a meaning, a contraction of two words -----Niger and area, at least your social studies class in primary school should have taught you that. I've told you the meaning of the examples I gave you but you just want to argue over nothing you know about. Meanwhile, give me a name of person or place in Yorubaland with Yoruba prefix or suffix and you cannot fit. Yoruba was imposed on you and your people, QED. 3 Likes |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 6:08pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
igbodefender: Olukumi people are Yoruba people just like the Ishekiri people of the Warri Kingdom. These people nearly almost lost their identities due to pressure to conform to the way of life of the Bini people as those who do not were severely persecuted by the Binis at the height of their power. These led to adoptions of Non-Yoruba customs, names, vocabularies and way of dressing, such that today many of these people can not tell where they originated from anymore. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 6:09pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
0monnak0da:i don’t even think I know what we are arguing about 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by nobaga: 6:10pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Actually Yoruba was already in use before Amed Baba put it into writing complaining he should not be captured as a slave because he was a Muslim. Only YORUBA that stuck to their religion and others should be captured for being nonbelievers of Muslim God. But Yoruba named most of the ethnic groups in Nigeria. Fulani is Yoruba nomenclature, their name varies from Fulbe to others depending on their location. Tapa is also Yoruba word just as many others looking for greener pastures in Yoruba name. Ibo is Yoruba word and many Easterners prefer it to Igbo. Indeed, Igbo corrected Yoruba many times that it is IGBO not IBO. Nevertheless Yoruba have other names Igbo did not like. No need to mention them. Hausa is also a Yoruba word for a group of people Yoruba see as the same even when they refer to themselves as Magawazu, Burno, Gambari etc. So Yoruba say- Igbonle ni Mula, Hausa ni Hausa nje. The reason is obvious. Most Nigerians and Africans coming to Nigeria gravitate to the WEST up to the present day. So Yoruba have names for those coming from Togo, Ghana all the way to Liberia. Note, Lagosians would name others anything, even their own Yoruba. But they call many others the same name their Yoruba kin call them. So do not take Lagosians seriously. They are rascals that believe the world starts and end in Lagos like New Yorkers. Corruption has tamed them. Indeed, tamed all Nigerians, the giant of WHERE? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nonaira1: 6:13pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
igbodefender: Who the Heck told you the bolded? Olukumi is not an ancient igbo language. Have you ever heard the language? If you have, you'll know It is not Igbo. It sounds nothing like igbo. Secondly, the olukumis do not speak any olukumni or olucumi or whatever you want to call it. That speak Enuani like the rest of us. Only a hand full, usually their elders, are the ones that still manages to speak olukumi. 4 Likes |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Strikethem: 6:13pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Nonaira1:Lean a little boy. HISTORY OF OLUKUMI people. Located in the heart of Anioma land in Aniocha North L.G.A of Delta State are the bilingual people Who speak Olukwumi and Enuani(igbo dialect) perfectly. The olukwumi people are said to have migrated from the old oyo empire over 1000years ago. They are located in the heart of Anioma land in delta state and can either be referred or classified as Olukwumi people or Ndi Igbos of the west(Delta igbos). Their customs and traditions are that of the igbos in Anioma and they also speak both the olukwumi language and the Enuani dialect perfectly. They also bear both olukwumi and igbo names. In recent times due to the seemingly extinction of the olukwumi language ,most of the youths speak just the enuani dialect and the purest form of the olukwumi dialect is only spoken by elders in the community. Although they are measures being taken to preserve the unique Olukwumi dialect. They partook in every activity during the Ekumeku war,and others. These Anioma son's occupy an area just west of the Niger River's right bank. The area is rich in Chalk and Kaolin deposits. The Olukumis according to their own oral traditions are said to have migrated from either the Owo , Akure or the Akoko areas of Yorubaland as many others migrated too as at then to various places of settlement,for example the onitsha's in Anambra state migrated from the Benin Empire , depending on the Olukumi town in question. All the aforementioned towns are in Ondo state, in the eastern sections of Yorubaland. Ugbodu for instance claims to have migrated in waves from the Owo and Akure axis. Ugbodu lore further claims that shortly after their migration from Owo/Akure, they settled in Benin , from where they left to settle in a place called Ewohimi, which is an Esan-speaking community and is today located in Edo State . From Ewohimi they settled in Ugbodu as a result of a war that threatened them. A quarter of Ugbodu town named Ologhosa was named after an Owo (Ogho) general who led the early settlers. [3] They speak a variant of the Yoruba language which most closely resembles those of the South-Eastern Yoruba dialect grouping (SEY), which has surprisingly remained relatively intact, even hundreds of years in their new location after being detached from the main contiguous body of the Yoruba cultural area. About three or four generations after the establishment, one Agbe said to be a relative of the founders of Usen, a town now in Edo state near the Ondo state boundary and the town of Okada (they came from Ile-Ife ) moved eastwards and settled near the Ugbodu people. He and his group were attracted to a chalk (efun) site and thus settled there. This was the beginning of the town of Eko Efun (Ukwu-Nzu). Gradually, the Ukwu Nzu people began to earn revenue from the chalk mines and they for this reason were called a people settled on a chalk mining camp. "Ago or Eko Efun" would mean "chalk camp" in Yoruba. Due to the subsequent blend and location of their settlements with the Enuani speakers, they today speak both the Enuani dialect of Igbo language and Olukumi dialect of Yoruba, in some of the villages, the Olukumi dialect is threatened, but the people are making active and conscious efforts to preserve the Olukumi language and culture. Some of these measures adopted by them have been aimed at ensuring the retention and rejuvenation of their Olukumi names by making sure olukimi children bear the names. Some of the adults have changed their erstwhile non olukumi names to olukumi ones. Prayers and recitals in their native language are also being encouraged, while making conscious efforts at speaking the language to their children and in their communities as a whole. According to a report published on the Sunday Tribune of October 24, 2010 by Banji Aluko, they have also started to organize recitation and oratory quizzes and competitions in Olukumi as a way of preserving the language for the future generations. [ citation needed] Digital and written documentation of the language is also ongoing among linguists. Chief G B Nkemnacho, a lawyer of Olukumi origin, has over the past forty years, documented his people's history as told by the older generation, being the very people who lived through it. Prior to his groundbreaking work, most of this history has been in oral form passed from one generation to the next. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by GMbuharii: 6:14pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
KwaraRat:lolss ![]() ![]() coneheads yaff suffered,OYOROBBA,Chai!!! Slaves indeed..lil' wonder,they dobale to any mallam in sight ![]() ![]() |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 6:15pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
rlauncher:Yes, the Itshekiri of Warri are Yoruba. I totally to that. But Olukumi/Lucumi of Aniocha are Igbo. I have cousins from there. I know their history very well. Their language is the ancient Igbo aboriginal language of Ile Ife, that's why there is 'confusion' on the issue. |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by 0monnak0da: 6:17pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Yyeske:Igbo was given to you as a mark of being slaves and bush dwellers by Igalas 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by GMbuharii: 6:17pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Strikethem: complete thrash ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 6:19pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
igbodefender:lol really funny 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nonaira1: 6:20pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Strikethem: I suggest REREAD my post before quoting me and saying what I already said. Wtf did you think you just contradicted? They migrated from Yoruba land fact. Today, they don't claim yoruba. They don't even see themselves as yoruba. They don't even speak the language. Only people that keep calling them yoruba are you yoruba people and it's pathetic!!! Stick to attache by force to iteskiri and LEAVE aniomaland alone. We don't want you people!!! I know Olukumis because my family is related to them by marriage and I'll forever keep telling you waste things to stop una patheticness. THERE ARE NO YORUBA IN ANIOMALAND. Stick to your desperation with iteskiri people and leave us the hell alone. 6 Likes |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Yyeske(m): 6:21pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
0monnak0da:Thank God for OP and this thread, I never knew Yoruba was actually imposed on you. We learn everyday 3 Likes |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Strikethem: 6:25pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Nonaira1:There is Yoruba in anioma, deal with it. They know their history, whether you like it or not. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Strikethem: 6:28pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Yyeske:But what is the meaning of igbo in your igbo tongue. Cos I'm Yoruba language, it means bush. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by 0monnak0da: 6:29pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Yyeske:Boring Check out this link since you want a link The word has no meaning http://chatafrik.com/articles/nigerian-affairs/what-is-the-origin-and-meaning-of-the-word-igbo 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Yyeske(m): 6:31pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Strikethem:Go back to my previous posts and don't just jump into something you know nothing about 1 Like |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Strikethem: 6:31pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nonaira1: 6:32pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Strikethem: I just named people from that community that are well known and like I asked the other guy name ONE time they came out and claimed yoruba even when the entire nation named them Igbo. Name one time they went to media to announce the igbo title ascribe to them by society is incorrect? Fucking HAVE SHAME!! Because iteskiri keep pushing you niggas off, now una desperately attache to olukumni. Have Shame!!! Try another route since una are that desperate to be part of delta state. The olukumi people ain't calling themselves yoruba. Hell the only thing that still connects una with them aka the language is even dying off by their own accord. Most of them speaks Igbo language over olukumi. What does that tell you? Attache. Never knew being part of delta is this much accordance to you people. Abeg, you'll find another community in delta to attache by force to. Ndoooo. I feel una. Stay away from anioma land though 1 Like |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Yyeske(m): 6:33pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
0monnak0da:Lol, a credible link indeed so why is Igbo in the names of people and places I talked about? Remember you have not given me any examples in Yorubaland 2 Likes |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 6:33pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
igbodefender:land grabbers no modern Igbo came from ife the igbo people of then are in modern day Ondo State stop saying rubbish 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Strikethem: 6:35pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Nonaira1:How will this your epistle change the fact that they know their origin and they never changed it for once ![]() ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 6:35pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Nonaira1:shut up their king ayo is doing a reform to not let their language die off so that land grabbing ibo will not claim them. https://www..com/news/1463197/facts-about-the-yoruba-settlement-in-aniocha-delta-state.html 4 Likes |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 6:38pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Yyeske: The name Yoruba was not imposed on us by anyone. We chose to adopt it and we are happy with our decision. It is also important to state here that the sacking of Oyo Kingdom led to the dissolution of the Empire not the defeat of the Yoruba people. The vassal states under the Alaafin regained their independence and fortified themselves militarily and economically. Subsequent Invasions by the Fulanis were successfully thwarted.Twice they came and we're soundly defeated. Their last attempt was in 1840, which led to all the Yoruba kingdoms donating their best warriors who congregated in Iba -Odan or Camp on a Hill which is today known as Ibadan from which The Yoruba forces fighting with muskets and cannons were unleashed on the invading Fulani invaders The casualties on them was so heavy that they never attempted another Jihad against us again. Igbos who sees themselves as Fulani slaves should please stop comparing us with them. As far as Fulanis are concerned, they know where we stand with them and where they stand with us. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by 0monnak0da: 6:44pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Yyeske:Have you given examplee in Germany? He is an Ibo man with a PhD he should know what he is talking about whe he says the word has no meaning But it has in the language of your masters. There is a New York, a Birmingham et in USA what does it prove ? colonization not that they have a meaning in Native American So place names with Igbo in it CONFIRMS the slave bush dweller claim 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 6:45pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
THE olukumi only adapted to their environment by adopting ibo names and some of their way of life they are not ibo they know their origin. 6 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nonaira1: 6:45pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Thetruthsayer10: Did you even read your own article? The king dodged you lots and kept you lots waiting for hours. The only person you spoke to according to your own article was Ademole Ochei while pathetically ascribing his as "brother of the king" despite the royal family name of Ugbodu is ISINYEMEZE. Definitely yoruba name is it not? Secondly despite desperately attache by force to olukumni, you people don't even know jack shit about olukumni. Pathetic!!! Ayo ISINYEMEZE is the king of Ugbodu which is ONE town in olukumni. There is no such thing as the king of olukumni dummy. The rest of olukumni towns have their own kings. I suggest go and research the people you lots are desperately trying to attache by force to 2 Likes |
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