Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by obmade: 10:39pm On Mar 15, 2018 |
Ok guys. So today is the first time I ever did enjoy driving my car since I got it in November 2017! I want to say a Huge ‘Thank you’ to all the contributors on Nairaland who give quality advice on Car Matters. I have silently been reading, reviewing and correlating different contributions and these have helped me in recognizing anomalies that could be present in a car.
Ikenna always talks about Lions, lol (Peugeot)! Mine is just a Kitty Cat! How do I know? This is because, today we helped him to become calm . . . Now he purrs very nicely, instead of the previous distressed roaring (when he is not a Lion).
I drive a 2009 Corolla (US Spec). When I got it, I didn’t know the ride’s radiator fan was connected directly (that is, they by-passed the fan control module). Every time I start the vehicle, the engine would roar to life, and keep roaring (I diagnosed and got error codes saying “timing is over-advanced”). Of cos it was over advance! Unlike non-sensor cars that you could just adjust the throttle cable, tinker here and there to get the right setting, I didn’t want anyone tinkering here and there on my Corolla, lol. I asked mechanics for explanation towards possible solution till I got tired. Then I encountered Nairaland contributors (Worldwide famous cc Gazzuzz, cc Ikenna, and many other popular resourceful contributors). I learned here that by-passing the ‘fan control module’ is not a good thing to do (Meanwhile, 96.888888888% of our mechanics (As you guys funnily call them “Kazeems”, lol) believe they are saving the world when they advise motorists to trash thermostat and connect fan directly!) That direct connection had been my problem all along! At car start, my engine always struggles to attain optimum temperature for efficient performance, but the constantly running fan won’t let it! In order to counteract the fan, the engine would trigger an advanced timing in order to get the engine to heat up and attain optimum temperature. This in turn caused my car to roar, guzzle fuel and make me feel dissatisfied overall.
Today, I decided I would get a good electrician to revert the status quo. Guys, the eleco who came highly recommended turned out to be a KAZEEM! He started with the whole ‘As your fan be, na the best. Naija temperature too hot!’ I tried to get him to see reason, but he argued on behalf of Africa! Two other people I met were stuck on the same false argument. Eventually, I got one to do my wish . . . And Voila, Advanced Timing is no more!
Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate you guys. And please, there’s got to be a way that the sea of unqualified mechanics can be salvaged, on behalf of the unsuspecting Nigerian car owners. Maybe, if mechanic associations exists, group training can be given on workings of recent cars! Just saying. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by Ladipodeal: 1:40pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
Reverted my Sienna 2007 to factory connection and the drop in fuel consumption was obvious. 7 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by erico2k2(m): 7:18pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
obmade: Ok guys. So today is the first time I ever did enjoy driving my car since I got it in November 2017! I want to say a Huge ‘Thank you’ to all the contributors on Nairaland who give quality advice on Car Matters. I have silently been reading, reviewing and correlating different contributions and these have helped me in recognizing anomalies that could be present in a car.
Ikenna always talks about Lions, lol (Peugeot)! Mine is just a Kitty Cat! How do I know? This is because, today we helped him to become calm . . . Now he purrs very nicely, instead of the previous distressed roaring (when he is not a Lion).
I drive a 2009 Corolla (US Spec). When I got it, I didn’t know the ride’s radiator fan was connected directly (that is, they by-passed the fan control module). Every time I start the vehicle, the engine would roar to life, and keep roaring (I diagnosed and got error codes saying “timing is over-advanced”). Of cos it was over advance! Unlike non-sensor cars that you could just adjust the throttle cable, tinker here and there to get the right setting, I didn’t want anyone tinkering here and there on my Corolla, lol. I asked mechanics for explanation towards possible solution till I got tired. Then I encountered Nairaland contributors (Worldwide famous cc Gazzuzz, cc Ikenna, and many other popular resourceful contributors). I learned here that by-passing the ‘fan control module’ is not a good thing to do (Meanwhile, 96.888888888% of our mechanics (As you guys funnily call them “Kazeems”, lol) believe they are saving the world when they advise motorists to trash thermostat and connect fan directly!) That direct connection had been my problem all along! At car start, my engine always struggles to attain optimum temperature for efficient performance, but the constantly running fan won’t let it! In order to counteract the fan, the engine would trigger an advanced timing in order to get the engine to heat up and attain optimum temperature. This in turn caused my car to roar, guzzle fuel and make me feel dissatisfied overall.
Today, I decided I would get a good electrician to revert the status quo. Guys, the eleco who came highly recommended turned out to be a KAZEEM! He started with the whole ‘As your fan be, na the best. Naija temperature too hot!’ I tried to get him to see reason, but he argued on behalf of Africa! Two other people I met were stuck on the same false argument. Eventually, I got one to do my wish . . . And Voila, Advanced Timing is no more!
Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate you guys. And please, there’s got to be a way that the sea of unqualified mechanics can be salvaged, on behalf of the unsuspecting Nigerian car owners. Maybe, if mechanic associations exists, group training can be given on workings of recent cars! Just saying.
Thank God you experienced it 1st hand, if you tell most guys they will think you are talking BS. Africa is Hot indeed! 6 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by obmade: 9:21pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) erico2k2:
Thank God you experienced it 1st hand, if you tell most guys they will think you are talking BS. Africa is Hot indeed! |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by snipesdam(m): 9:51pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) Nice experience. That's how one of our drivers in my office argued with me that ABS is very bad I should disconnect mine. Knowing how many times that tech has saved me. Never argue with an idiot they'll drag you down to their level and beat you through experience Arguing with a fool proves there are two. 16 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by luvinhubby(m): 10:06pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
snipesdam: Nice experience. That's how one of our drivers in my office argued with me that ABS is very bad I should disconnect mine. Knowing how many times that tech has saved me.
Never argue with an idiot they'll drag you down to their level and beat you through experience Arguing with a fool proves there are two. Some hired assassins abound, wearing mechanic overall and clutching bags of tools. ![angry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/angry.png) 15 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by dcole73: 10:31pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
luvinhubby:
Some hired assassins abound, wearing mechanic overall and clutching bags of tools. ![angry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/angry.png) Lolz LWTMB 2 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by dcole73: 10:33pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
snipesdam: Nice experience. That's how one of our drivers in my office argued with me that ABS is very bad I should disconnect mine. Knowing how many times that tech has saved me.
Never argue with an idiot they'll drag you down to their level and beat you through experience Arguing with a fool proves there are two. Bros, u are so correct. 4 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by dcole73: 10:35pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
erico2k2:
Thank God you experienced it 1st hand, if you tell most guys they will think you are talking BS. Africa is Hot indeed! Lolz It is supposedly hotter than your car's engine, I guess. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 1 Like |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by dcole73: 10:40pm On Mar 16, 2018 |
erico2k2:
Thank God you experienced it 1st hand, if you tell most guys they will think you are talking BS. Africa is Hot indeed! Lolz Africa is supposedly hotter than your car's engine, I guess. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) The most important prayer point at MFM's next convention. "May God deliver us from the hands and mouths of all Kazeems. " @OP, Knowledge is power. And you applied it well. 3 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by obmade: 4:15am On Mar 17, 2018 |
Hahaha! luvinhubby:
Some hired assassins abound, wearing mechanic overall and clutching bags of tools. ![angry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/angry.png) |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by Getrich47(m): 10:01am On Mar 17, 2018 |
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Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by 3kay945(m): 4:48pm On Mar 17, 2018 |
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Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by eghevaare: 4:54pm On Mar 17, 2018 |
Thank God for this post. It has given me the conviction that I have been looking for. I will order for 2 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by timifakay(m): 5:50am On Mar 18, 2018 |
obmade: Ok guys. So today is the first time I ever did enjoy driving my car since I got it in November 2017! I want to say a Huge ‘Thank you’ to all the contributors on Nairaland who give quality advice on Car Matters. I have silently been reading, reviewing and correlating different contributions and these have helped me in recognizing anomalies that could be present in a car.
Ikenna always talks about Lions, lol (Peugeot)! Mine is just a Kitty Cat! How do I know? This is because, today we helped him to become calm . . . Now he purrs very nicely, instead of the previous distressed roaring (when he is not a Lion).
I drive a 2009 Corolla (US Spec). When I got it, I didn’t know the ride’s radiator fan was connected directly (that is, they by-passed the fan control module). Every time I start the vehicle, the engine would roar to life, and keep roaring (I diagnosed and got error codes saying “timing is over-advanced”). Of cos it was over advance! Unlike non-sensor cars that you could just adjust the throttle cable, tinker here and there to get the right setting, I didn’t want anyone tinkering here and there on my Corolla, lol. I asked mechanics for explanation towards possible solution till I got tired. Then I encountered Nairaland contributors (Worldwide famous cc Gazzuzz, cc Ikenna, and many other popular resourceful contributors). I learned here that by-passing the ‘fan control module’ is not a good thing to do (Meanwhile, 96.888888888% of our mechanics (As you guys funnily call them “Kazeems”, lol) believe they are saving the world when they advise motorists to trash thermostat and connect fan directly!) That direct connection had been my problem all along! At car start, my engine always struggles to attain optimum temperature for efficient performance, but the constantly running fan won’t let it! In order to counteract the fan, the engine would trigger an advanced timing in order to get the engine to heat up and attain optimum temperature. This in turn caused my car to roar, guzzle fuel and make me feel dissatisfied overall.
Today, I decided I would get a good electrician to revert the status quo. Guys, the eleco who came highly recommended turned out to be a KAZEEM! He started with the whole ‘As your fan be, na the best. Naija temperature too hot!’ I tried to get him to see reason, but he argued on behalf of Africa! Two other people I met were stuck on the same false argument. Eventually, I got one to do my wish . . . And Voila, Advanced Timing is no more!
Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate you guys. And please, there’s got to be a way that the sea of unqualified mechanics can be salvaged, on behalf of the unsuspecting Nigerian car owners. Maybe, if mechanic associations exists, group training can be given on workings of recent cars! Just saying.
I congratulate you and appreciate your good sense of judgment. The problem is we are too close minded as a society, there is this belief that since it's 'worked' so long for people around then it's gonna keep working,and most car users are scared to take risks. Please ensure to use coolant in your car. The mechanics are just too stubborn and will never hear anything different. I believe they even tell themselves to remove thermostat in their associations. Don't be surprised of you interview the person who revered the connection did so just because he needs money and sees you as stubborn, so he wants you to learn your lesson the hard way. Congrats and stay safe sir. 6 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by obmade: 7:02am On Mar 18, 2018 |
Hahahahaha! That's a possible angle I didn't even imagine, lol. Thanks for taking the time to read my post. Cheers. timifakay:
Don't be surprised, if you interview the person who reversed the connection, did so just because he needs money and sees you as stubborn, so he wants you to learn your lesson the hard way. Congrats and stay safe sir. 2 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by Specialist900(m): 1:31pm On Mar 18, 2018 |
eghevaare: Thank God for this post. It has given me the conviction that I have been looking for. I will order for I remember trying to reinstall thermostat and revert fan setting about 4yrs ago on my brother's Honda accord 95, nothing the mechanic and electrician no tell me, the thing I told them was, "na my car, do wetin I tell you, if e overheat na my wahala". Till today the car runs smoothly and hasn't overheated ever since. Similar thing happened when I bought my babyboy almost 2yrs ago, this time I didn't have to say much before it will reversed to factory setting 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by erico2k2(m): 3:42pm On Mar 18, 2018 |
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Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by mayor2013: 4:56pm On Mar 18, 2018 |
Go and preach the gospel.sin no more my brother ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 5 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by billy187(m): 6:40pm On Mar 18, 2018 |
obmade: Ok guys. So today is the first time I ever did enjoy driving my car since I got it in November 2017! I want to say a Huge ‘Thank you’ to all the contributors on Nairaland who give quality advice on Car Matters. I have silently been reading, reviewing and correlating different contributions and these have helped me in recognizing anomalies that could be present in a car.
Ikenna always talks about Lions, lol (Peugeot)! Mine is just a Kitty Cat! How do I know? This is because, today we helped him to become calm . . . Now he purrs very nicely, instead of the previous distressed roaring (when he is not a Lion).
I drive a 2009 Corolla (US Spec). When I got it, I didn’t know the ride’s radiator fan was connected directly (that is, they by-passed the fan control module). Every time I start the vehicle, the engine would roar to life, and keep roaring (I diagnosed and got error codes saying “timing is over-advanced”). Of cos it was over advance! Unlike non-sensor cars that you could just adjust the throttle cable, tinker here and there to get the right setting, I didn’t want anyone tinkering here and there on my Corolla, lol. I asked mechanics for explanation towards possible solution till I got tired. Then I encountered Nairaland contributors (Worldwide famous cc Gazzuzz, cc Ikenna, and many other popular resourceful contributors). I learned here that by-passing the ‘fan control module’ is not a good thing to do (Meanwhile, 96.888888888% of our mechanics (As you guys funnily call them “Kazeems”, lol) believe they are saving the world when they advise motorists to trash thermostat and connect fan directly!) That direct connection had been my problem all along! At car start, my engine always struggles to attain optimum temperature for efficient performance, but the constantly running fan won’t let it! In order to counteract the fan, the engine would trigger an advanced timing in order to get the engine to heat up and attain optimum temperature. This in turn caused my car to roar, guzzle fuel and make me feel dissatisfied overall.
Today, I decided I would get a good electrician to revert the status quo. Guys, the eleco who came highly recommended turned out to be a KAZEEM! He started with the whole ‘As your fan be, na the best. Naija temperature too hot!’ I tried to get him to see reason, but he argued on behalf of Africa! Two other people I met were stuck on the same false argument. Eventually, I got one to do my wish . . . And Voila, Advanced Timing is no more!
Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate you guys. And please, there’s got to be a way that the sea of unqualified mechanics can be salvaged, on behalf of the unsuspecting Nigerian car owners. Maybe, if mechanic associations exists, group training can be given on workings of recent cars! Just saying.
Glad to see you have found the light, I had mine reverted many, many moons ago and much like you I had to go through like 4 mechanics before I got one that begrugingly rewired it. I really wonder why most mechanics defend shallow beliefs so dogmatically. Frankly, I find it quite frightening ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 7 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by Namzy(m): 7:14pm On Mar 18, 2018 |
Op if your car has a thermostat (which i believe it does). It will take the same amount of time to get the engine at its optimum temp regardless on whether fan is on all the time or when needed. Reason is simple. Thermostat only opens to allow cool water at a particular temp and will open and close when coolant is hot and cold so the disadvantage of running your fan directly is increased wear and tear of fan engines and maybe a slight rise in engine performance to accommodate fan running always 2 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by feelme3(m): 11:17pm On Mar 19, 2018 |
obmade: Ok guys. So today is the first time I ever did enjoy driving my car since I got it in November 2017! I want to say a Huge ‘Thank you’ to all the contributors on Nairaland who give quality advice on Car Matters. I have silently been reading, reviewing and correlating different contributions and these have helped me in recognizing anomalies that could be present in a car.
Ikenna always talks about Lions, lol (Peugeot)! Mine is just a Kitty Cat! How do I know? This is because, today we helped him to become calm . . . Now he purrs very nicely, instead of the previous distressed roaring (when he is not a Lion).
I drive a 2009 Corolla (US Spec). When I got it, I didn’t know the ride’s radiator fan was connected directly (that is, they by-passed the fan control module). Every time I start the vehicle, the engine would roar to life, and keep roaring (I diagnosed and got error codes saying “timing is over-advanced”). Of cos it was over advance! Unlike non-sensor cars that you could just adjust the throttle cable, tinker here and there to get the right setting, I didn’t want anyone tinkering here and there on my Corolla, lol. I asked mechanics for explanation towards possible solution till I got tired. Then I encountered Nairaland contributors (Worldwide famous cc Gazzuzz, cc Ikenna, and many other popular resourceful contributors). I learned here that by-passing the ‘fan control module’ is not a good thing to do (Meanwhile, 96.888888888% of our mechanics (As you guys funnily call them “Kazeems”, lol) believe they are saving the world when they advise motorists to trash thermostat and connect fan directly!) That direct connection had been my problem all along! At car start, my engine always struggles to attain optimum temperature for efficient performance, but the constantly running fan won’t let it! In order to counteract the fan, the engine would trigger an advanced timing in order to get the engine to heat up and attain optimum temperature. This in turn caused my car to roar, guzzle fuel and make me feel dissatisfied overall.
Today, I decided I would get a good electrician to revert the status quo. Guys, the eleco who came highly recommended turned out to be a KAZEEM! He started with the whole ‘As your fan be, na the best. Naija temperature too hot!’ I tried to get him to see reason, but he argued on behalf of Africa! Two other people I met were stuck on the same false argument. Eventually, I got one to do my wish . . . And Voila, Advanced Timing is no more!
Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate you guys. And please, there’s got to be a way that the sea of unqualified mechanics can be salvaged, on behalf of the unsuspecting Nigerian car owners. Maybe, if mechanic associations exists, group training can be given on workings of recent cars! Just saying.
Nice testimony bro. But have you used your AC for extended period and never experienced overheating since the revert? |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by obmade: 10:58am On Mar 20, 2018 |
Hello Namzy. You see you mentioned "slight rise in engine performance". From my post, I mentioned exactly that, except that I don't know what you would consider 'slight rise'. My engine was over advanced! Even when driving, at 80 km/h, my Rev-meter would be at 3000 Revs/min ![shocked](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/shocked.gif) ! This is not slight rise Bro. My engine is waaaay-quieter now, and I have peace. Peace be unto you to bro, ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) . Namzy: Thermostat only opens to allow cool water at a particular temp and will open and close when coolant is hot and cold so the disadvantage of running your fan directly is increased wear and tear of fan engines and maybe a slight rise in engine performance to accommodate fan running always 3 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by obmade: 11:02am On Mar 20, 2018 |
My experience since I returned connection to factory settings is this: 1. Without AC, fan doesn't come on. During driving, fan comes on intermittently. 2. With AC, fan stays on. That's just how the car behaves now. Please experts in the house. I hope that how it's supposed to be though. feelme3:
Nice testimony bro. But have you used your AC for extended period and never experienced overheating since the revert? 1 Like |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by mayor2013: 1:46pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
obmade: My experience since I returned connection to factory settings is this: 1. Without AC, fan doesn't come on. During driving, fan comes on intermittently.
2. With AC, fan stays on.
That's just how the car behaves now. Please experts in the house. I hope that how it's supposed to be though.
You are covered as long as ride doesn't overheat 1 Like |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by obmade: 2:02pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
No over-heating at all. Thanks. mayor2013:
You are covered as long as ride doesn't overheat |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by feelme3(m): 2:31pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
obmade: No over-heating at all. Thanks.
Abeg, which area is the mech that corrected yours? I dey go revert mine. Problem is the Kazeem that removed the thermostat probably threw it away. ![](/faces/huh.png) |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by obmade: 3:26pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
Are u in Abuja? feelme3:
Abeg, which area is the mech that corrected yours? I dey go revert mine. Problem is the Kazeem that removed the thermostat probably threw it away. ![](/faces/huh.png) |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by LUKINGUY(m): 9:59pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
I used my toyota Sienna for 2years with the thermostat after i bought it as tokunbo, then i started experiencing over heating, my rewire bypassed it and have been using it like that for past 2years. Does it mean the thermostat is bad and needs replacement or what is the best solution. I will need my car to also work at its best performance because the most time i enjoyed the car was that first 2 years..
I need your support the autoguru in the house |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by feelme3(m): 10:17pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
obmade: Are u in Abuja?
Chai. Lagos. I will just have to look for a good rewire. Went to one this afternoon and it's the same mantra. Oga leave am like that, na so we dey do am because of weather. 2 Likes |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by 2special(m): 9:31pm On Jun 11, 2022 |
feelme3:
Chai. Lagos. I will just have to look for a good rewire. Went to one this afternoon and it's the same mantra. Oga leave am like that, na so we dey do am because of weather. Nawa o |
Re: Today, I Found Out For Sure That, Connecting Radiator Fan Directly Is Not Good ! by Donjuan77: 2:33pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
I want reset my own too but all the technicians I meet always say please leave like that, I need someone who is very good at it do reset for me. Am in uyo, please help me with someone who is very good at it around uyo to help me, tanks. |