Can a lady who's not independent call herself a feminist



just want to know.
The feminist ideology you know is all about social, political and ethical equality. Sometimes I believe in feminism and sometimes I don't. For you to be a feminist you must be an independent lady or at least you must have a substandard business. can a dependent or full time house wife call herself a feminist? the answer is no ,some people would like to refer me to Beyonce but we'll know that she's not dependent if she breaks up with Jay Z today she wouldn't have anything to lose because she's made and I believe she's also contributing to her home. Sometimes I believe gender inequality is only a reality in politics. There's mass gender inequality in the political sphere of west Africa and that is what as a lady you should focus on at the moment. Though ladies are not barred from contesting elections, parties don't usually allow females to be their flag bearers and that is wrong. we have up to 667 local government areas in Nigeria today but I can boldy say among all 667 LGA'S no LG chairman is a woman, that is what is called inequality!!. Then another feminist ideology is the pay gap... personally I truly believe that pay gap or unequal pay is a myth because naturally men do most of the hard works that ladies are unwilling to do and they're paid much higher, I want to use myself as a case study; I work in a company where biscuits, juice and bottled waters are produced, I work only 4days in a week but the men in the company work for 6days in a week. I'm paid 13k monthly and the men are paid 15k monthly, can I come out and shout there's gender pay gap? surely no. even as a lady if I'm the owner of a firm, company or an industry I can't do that. if women and men work for 5days each in a company and they're paid different amounts I still won't call it inequality because there's a reason for that ,men mostly are charged with the hard parts while women are given the easy side so paying the men much isn't inequality. A feminist once said that the feminist movement is all about allowing women to make their own decisions/choices; sometimes I disagree with such motions because I wonder where in these world women are not allowed to make their own decisions. every decision we make today as ladies are as a result of our own choices. A self acclaimed feminist once said that her man provides everything for her (meaning she's dependent on him) and that doesn't stop her from being a feminist because she can't refuse gifts because she's a feminist when she's the one requesting for the things in the first place, well she's 100% wrong, for you to be a feminist you must be an independent lady. All the feminists in America how many are not independent? rare. A self aclaimed feminist was once asked about some of the injustice women are facing in this 21st century, she couldn't say anything, I was very surprised, instead she made a very confusing statement(see the statement below);

Only a baby or teenage girl that will come out and tell us that she is yet to see the great injustices against women.

Even the way the birth of a baby boy is celebrated compared with that of a baby girl is enough to tell you something. 

There are offices where women are being sexually harassed before they break through some ceilings because there are cultures that see women as inferior and only useful for making babies. 



In families, many daughters are pushed away when it comes to inheritance and asset sharing, 



Or can we talk about some widows who are going through hell now in the hands of his late husband relatives which a widower can never go through ."



I wonder what or who gave her the notion that male births are celebrated differently from female births. Once upon a time we had a neighbor who has a wife. When they got married their plan was to give birth to 3kids, when the kids where up to 3and there wasn't a female yet they kept own giving birth to more kids till they were 5. now the man was fed up and angry when the woman gave birth for the 6th time it was also a boy the man refused to pay for her hospital bills and the lady stayed in the hospital for an extra 3weeks after which my parents and other neighbours donated money to bring her home. she put in to bed again and this time it was a girl (the 7th child) if I should tell you the kind of jubilation the man did that day you won't believe. food, drinks etc were served. so don't think male kids are treated like gods somewhere in this world except in China. how can you be a feminist and when asked to list some of the injustice being faced by women you won't be able to point out any notable thing??... all said, can a lady call herself a feminist when she's not independent??

majority of today's feminists are liberal feminists and everybody knows that not everyone would be willing to support liberal movements. 45% of feminists don't know what they're actually fighting for or the category of feminists they fall into because there are different types of feminists, thanks.

the most important thing to me right now is fighting child abuse.. the rate at which parents are abusing their children is unacceptable.

Didn't read that epistle but the answer to the question you asked in the topic






Hell Naw.

12:07am. Trust me, all you need is a good d!cking and you'll forget this feminist crap

QuietHammer:
12:07am. Trust me, all you need is a good d!cking and you'll forget this feminist crap

are you crazy or something? if you don't have something meaningful to comment please don't click the reply feature.

Does a man cease to be of the male gender if he doesn't earn?

Why are the parameters always in the financial sense? Is that the only way you qualify value? How about people who volunteer for charities for instance doctors without Borders? Are they not proper doctors because they don't get paid?

Both men and women are more than their financial might.

That you can give anecdotal evidence of a man celebrating the birth of a daughter does not mean the girl child somewhere is not being married off to someone old enough to be her father twice. Do you come across instances of the opposite?

Who are those being trafficked into the sex trade?

Who are those being contracted out as maids in a form of modern day slavery and thus being denied an education?

Are these not reason enough to support better rights for them even if you are not financially independent?

Well I couldn't read all you wrote above, but my understanding of feminism is that it's an ideology about women having equal rights as men does in most if not all aspect of life. Now back to the topic title, you don't have to be rich or poor to be a feminist, it depends on your understanding about it. You might be dating a man and asking him for money for some needs but still fight for equal treatment of ladies in the work place as men... But I feel most 'Nigerian Feminists' don't understand this. My opinion though

Op who told u that there are no female LG chairperson in Nigeria?? Feminism in Nigeria is an illusion. Take them serious at ur own risk.

shaybebaby:
Does a man cease to be of the male gender if he doesn't earn?

Why are the parameters always in the financial sense? Is that the only way you qualify value? How about people who volunteer for charities for instance doctors without Borders? Are they not proper doctors because they don't get paid?

Both men and women are more than their financial might.

That you can give anecdotal evidence of a man celebrating the birth of a daughter does not mean the girl child somewhere is not being married off to someone old enough to be her father twice. Do you come across instances of the opposite?

Who those being trafficked into the sex trade?

Who are those being contracted out as maids in a form of modern day slavery and thus being denied an education?

Are these not reason enough to support better rights for them even if you are not financially independent?

how many American feminists are dependent?
where those ladies forced into trafficking?
are the girl child forced into marriage to older men by men or by their parents? blame their parents.


forget it if you're dependent you can't call yourself a feminist. no influential American or European feminist(our role models) are dependent.

Grayjoy:
Op who told u that there are no female LG chairperson in Nigeria??
Feminism in Nigeria is an illusion. Take them serious at ur own risk.

Female LG chair women in which state?

TheUpsetGirl:


Female LG chair women in which state?

When I was Benue they had one in Okpokwu LG then later they had another one in LOGO or Guma LG, something of that nature but am very sure Benue pipu can attest to dat. And there are still others in other states.

Grayjoy:
When I was Benue they had one in Okpokwu LG then later they had another one in LOGO or Guma LG, something of that nature but am very sure Benue pipu can attest to dat. And there are still others in other states.

taah which Benin are you talking about... I'm living in Benin... you can't even see a woman being the leader of a party in a state.. such a shame

TheUpsetGirl:



taah which Benin are you talking about... I'm living in Benin... you can't even see a woman being the leader of a party in a state.. such a shame

You have comprehension problems o Aunty. He said Benue not Benin. Or is Benin now a state?

feminist. every time I remember that such ideology exist in this part of the work I just smh. must we copy everything?. tho feminism is a good ideology but I don't think it for we African. reason being that we over do everything and sometime the tenant of the so-called ideology is not inline with our Africa social reality, tho some of it are good and it also amend the the error of of our culture, to some extent tho.
feminist here in this part of the word are confuse people, they are self contradictory.
they want equal right but not equal responsibility
they tend to be arrogant
you can take someone out of the village, you can't village out of them
you can pretend not be aware of social reality, when you do this, I will pretend I don't understand you...... what am I even talking about. sleep dey my eye jare

An average western lady is independent- she can claim to be a feminist. 

An average African lady is dependent on some man- it baffles me how you will want to claim equal right with someone you depend on for almost everything. 

I call many African feminists confused. Self discovery is the best discover of womankind. Know yourself and the environment you have found yourself, it will help you in fulfilling life!

TheUpsetGirl:



taah which Benin are you talking about... I'm living in Benin... you can't even see a woman being the leader of a party in a state.. such a shame

I believe you know there is a difference between Benue and Benin?

you really need a serious bf..
so your a Benin girl and your talking about feminism..
I nor talk again

mumureloaded:
feminist. every time I remember that such ideology exist in this part of the work I just smh. must we copy everything?. tho feminism is a good ideology but I don't think it for we African. reason being that we over do everything and sometime the tenant of the so-called ideology is not inline with our Africa social reality, tho some of it are good and it also amend the the error of of our culture, to some extent tho.
feminist here in this part of the word are confuse people, they are self contradictory.
they want equal right but not equal responsibility
they tend to be arrogant
you can take someone out of the village, you can't village out of them
you can pretend not be aware of social reality, when you do this, I will pretend I don't understand you...... what am I even talking about. sleep dey my eye jare

... The most annoying thing is that they can never accept that the way they are going about it is wrong. Like you said ,they want equal right but not the responsibility attached to it. Just listen to this story that happened in my office two weeks ago. I walked into the apartment and heard the accountant and a female Engineer shouting at themselves,the accountant is a male,so I ignored them went into my office and directed the secretary to call them both,lol you won't believe why they were calling themselves names. We had a project in Awka and the engineers at the site are entitled to some estacodes or allowances once they are out of our base. Now the female Engineer was not on site with others because according to her,she was on her cycle and hers is always painful,when the accountant finished paying the others( males) she insisted that she must be paid as well and the accountant refused telling her that the director knows the number of people that left Enugu to Awka. She insisted and said its because she is a woman that's why the man refuse to pay her. When I heard this,I simply walked her out of my office. She can play that rubbish with her husband not in my firm. This is how most of them reason. As long as we are women,we re entitle to it whether we work for it or not.As for her question ,its capital NO.You can't depend financially on a man and claim to be a feminist.

Grayjoy:
Op who told u that there are no female LG chairperson in Nigeria??
Feminism in Nigeria is an illusion. Take them serious at ur own risk.

Correct bro, most of the public schools in Lagos state have women as the head or principal.

Since when has feminism translated to someone's personality? or source of livelihood? how does it even relate? dependence or not,this is why I call you lot fishbrains cos you have absolutely no idea what you're wasting your time for,you lot just hopped on the bandwagon and make it a battle of the sexes,which is a futile mission even right from the start.

Feminism is supposed to be about equality,but how can you fight for equality when you're only clamoring for one genders rights? inequality doesn't exist to me because a woman can decide to be whatever she wants without affiliation with the feminist bullcrap,everyone's gotta know their limits,if feminists want to be heard so bad,we should replace all the male soldiers fight bokoharam in sambisa with an all female army,what do you think?

Sheuns:


Correct bro, most of the public schools in Lagos state have women as the head or principal.

Lol, she said LG, so we are limiting it to that. I knw 3 female LG chairperson.

Op
cosigned √√√
I didn't read the whole piece, but the caption captured my imagination.

Ahh...this topic again

Grayjoy:
Lol, she said LG, so we are limiting it to that. I knw 3 female LG chairperson.

Oh. I also know 2 in Lagos, one is the chairman of my LG

Sheuns:


Oh. I also know 2 in Lagos, one is the chairman of my LG

that is to say we have many around then.

Grayjoy:
that is to say we have many around then.

But some women still scream gender inequality.

Sheuns:


But some women still scream gender inequality.

The world is nt equal in the first place. The word equality is an illusion to me. If the world is equal, we all would have same previleges in life.

Grayjoy:
The world is nt equal in the first place. The word equality is an illusion to me. If the world is equal, we all would have same previleges in life.

Nothing was created equal too. Inequality actually balances the world, there can never be equality, but equity is achievable.

Hilarious.