walexsho:
The only wrong practice is the spread of white cloth on Friday

Imat95:
Firstly i wl ask u, is prophet muhammed that brings it to us, capital NO, so dia is a person called ibrahim niyass popularly knwn as tijaniya said he get an inspiration 4rm prophet muhammed, say he should be recitn solatul fatih, and all of us known dat dia wl be no inspiration after d death of prophet muhammed(saw) so prophet had brings urs wot we shall be doing,dat is solatul ibrahimiyah,so any people dat refuse dat he/she wl be recitn solat fatih and we had explain 4hm and stl stand still on it is a shirik.

AlBaqir:


There are two opposing view concerning as-salat Fatih.
1. Those who condemned it reasoned that it was not prescribed by the holy prophet (peace be on him and his household). They further argued that what is established from the prophet is Salat Ibrahimiyah : "O Allah! Bless Muhammad and the household of Muhammad in exact manner you have blessed Ibrahim and the household of Ibrahim..."

These group deem any other form of 'salat ala Nabiyy' apart from the one above as 'Bid'ah - Innovation' which will lead to hell.

2. The second group also believe in the above salat Ibrahimiyah and they practice it esp. during tashahud but also recite an additional salat Nabiyy called "salat al-Fatih" and it reads:

"O God bless our Master Muhammad (pbuh) who opened what had been closed, and who is the Seal of what had gone before, he who makes the Truth Victorious by the Truth, the guide to thy straight path, and bless his household as is the due of his immense position and grandeur"

My humble Opinion
A. Seeking salawat upon the blessed Muhammad and his purified household is commanded by Allah in the holy Quran. It carries magnificent reward to the extent that "whoever prays and did not salute and send blessing on the prophet and his household, his prayer (salat) is void" ~Imam Shafi'i.

B. When the command of sending blessing upon the prophet was revealed, the companions ask how to go about it and the prophet (peace be on him and his household) recommended "salat Ibrahimiyyah". The question whoever is can we compose another form of praise and salawat for Muhammad (peace be on him and his household) in addition to salat ibrahimiyyah?

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong in doing that so far we did not abandon the initial one!

C. Going through the text of Salat al-Fatih, every single verse of the salat is in perfect harmony with the holy Quran and the recommended salat ibrahimiyyah.

D. Those who say it is wrong to recite salat al-fatih because it was not established by the prophet (peace be on him and his household) himself should bring prove why they themselves practice the following while it can NEVER be established as practice authorize by the prophet:

i. "Allahuma sali ala Muhammad wa ala ahlihi wa ala as'abihi ajmain"
NB: what is recommended is the unbolded part. Prophet NEVER authorized the bolded part. We only use our initiatives to add the companions as a result of their selfless contributions.

ii. Saying of "RadiAllahu anhum/Ridwanullah alayhi" after the name of the companions.
Even the companions themselves NEVER practice such not to mention the holy prophet (peace be on him and his household).

iii. Praying of Tarawih.
Muhammad (peace be on him and his household) NeVER institutionalized it. In fact he kicked against it and the 2nd khalifa who institutionalized it called it "Bid'ah Hassanat (good innovation)". He never tagged it as "Sunnati Nabiyy (practice of the prophet)".

E. The grave danger and controversy concerning salat al-Fatih is when some of its adherents begin to insinuate and make juxtapositions that the 'salat' is greater than Quran or can replace obligatory salat etc.

Allah knows best.

Salam alaykum

OLAJADON:

salam, I concur with what you have written...some Muslims believe that reciting 3 solatul fatih has cover a daily solatul, some even say without ablution if you recite solatul fatih it is enough for you obligatory solat.
Also I know of people that don't recite both the ibrahimiyah and fatih.
my humble suggestion is that it is best one should avoid any innovation either fatih or ibrahimiyah or any other that one does not find concrete evidence that the prophet practiced them.

OLAJADON:

salam, I concur with what you have written...some Muslims believe that reciting 3 solatul fatih has cover a daily solatul, some even say without ablution if you recite solatul fatih it is enough for you obligatory solat.
Also I know of people that don't recite both the ibrahimiyah and fatih.
my humble suggestion is that it is best one should avoid any innovation either fatih or ibrahimiyah or any other that one does not find concrete evidence that the prophet practiced them.

Empiree:
SubhannaLahi!

He explained Solati Fatih with some details


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPmX-ca19GA

Love his explanation

shawl:
^

may Allah raise his maqam. Amin.

@Empire.e's dad kwo?

Empiree:
lool...alhamdulilah...he dey

shawl:


I mean, is he?

Felt that he is.

Fundamentalist:
Just tell us you have something better than that of the messenger (salallahu alaihim wa sallam ) , instead of going around circles

Empiree:
In 2018 you still think like a jahil� smh. Reset your brain bro

Fundamentalist:


You're insults does no harm to me , I'm more concerned about the poison you are pitting in peoples hearts in the name of knowledge , just say it openly that you are not interested in what the messenger brought and stop blabbing

Empiree:
We will continue going in cycle. Albaqir already did justice to this thread. You ended up quoting without reference. Same thing you and abdelkabir accused me of. Now you cant help yourself. There is absolutely no restriction when it comes to darood and there is no restriction where and when it can be done.

Fundamentalist:



I expected less when albaqir became your reference point. At that point I understood you need psychiatric diagnosis

Fundamentalist:
Just tell us you have something better than that of the messenger (salallahu alaihim wa sallam ) , instead of going around circles

AlBaqir:


# Don't you know Salat Ibrahimiyah is going to be a Hujjat against you on the day of Qiyamat ni?

* In the Salat, you are asking Allah (via Prophet's command) to grant Muhammad and his ahl al-bayt the exact salat (praise) and Barakat (blessings) He has given to Ibrahim and ahl al-bayt of Ibrahim.

* If you are one of those that read the meaning of Quran, you will easily read that:

1. Allah preferred and choose Ibrahim and his righteous children above mankind [surah Ahli Imran: 33 - 34]

2. Allah made Ibrahim and the righteous children Imam over mankind. [surah al-Baqara: 124]

3. Allah grant Ibrahim and his children exclusive wisdom, book and kingdom (rulership) [surah an-Nisa: 54]


# Those three highlights (and more) are what you continue "seeking" for Nabi Muhammad and his children. Those were what the righteous sahabah (not the criminals among them o) also sought for.

- Now the question is, does the prayer accepted or not?

- Do you regard the Children of Muhammad as preferred and the chosen ones above mankind?

- Do you regard them as Allah's appointed Aimma (Imams) over mankind?

- Do you regard them as the most knowledgeable of the books of Allah and right owners of the great kingdom?


# This defeat your stubborn Sunni fundamental ideology. My advice is that you should abandon salat Ibrahimiyah and embrace salat fatih jéjély otherwise the former will stand against you in Qiyamat o

Empiree:
Stop emotional outcry. He used same method that you and your brother used against me. All you had to do was to answer him but you disappeared from the thread. Albaqir is not the focus of this talks. So leave him alone

Fundamentalist:


I should abandon what the prophet brought for a fake salat like salatul fathi . i hope right minded individuals are reading this . i have already said this earlier , that this is your mission on nairaland , so you know better than the prophet

adejaresalami1:
I have for long known that empiree, al- baqir are both of the same genre......The methods and motive propelled by you two have times without number thoroughly unmasked here. Your way may suit the way of the world. But the day of their account will eventually come. For the good must ultimately triumph.

We as sunniyun, where we see or hear truth held in light esteem, we ought to make our protest and withdraw from such company, not out of arrogance, as if we thought ourselves superior to other people, but out of real humility , lest our own nature be corrupted in such society. But it is possible that our protest or sincere remonstrance may change the theme of discourse

In that case we have done good to those who were inclined to hold truth in light esteem, for we have save them for ridiculing the truth.

Empiree:
Gone through this thread again. The way some brothers reason is very annoying despite glaring explanations presented. I hate this kind of silly rigidity. Strict adherence to text is not evidence of guidance. They simply read text mechanically. "Solati Ibrahimiyah" is simple a formula. It is never a direct darood for the prophet(saw). It is rather asking Allah's Blessings as He as done in the past o him(saw). This is humble position of the prophet just like he humbled himself when he said he is not the best of the prophets and messengers as narrated in the hadith below. Yet, all muslims or majority of us believe nabi(saw) is the best of the prophets or imam of ambiya.



Hadith 4:608
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

The Prophet said, "One should not say that I am better than Jonah (i.e. Yunus) bin Matta." So, he mentioned his father Matta. The Prophet mentioned the night of his Ascension and said, "The prophet Moses was brown, a tall person as if from the people of the tribe of Shanu'a. Jesus was a curly-haired man of moderate height." He also mentioned Malik, the gate-keeper of the (Hell) Fire, and Ad-Dajjal.


In another versions of the hadith, the headline is titled "Hadith Of Humility"


Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “No servant should say that I am better than Jonah son of Mata.”

In another narration, the Prophet said, “Whoever says that I am better than Jonah son of Mata has told a lie.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3234, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2373


Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim


Yet the whole of muslims ummah believe prophet Muhammad(saw) is best of mankind and leader of all prophets that came before him because of many other ahadith and verses of Qur'an itself.. So the above hadith is simply humble comment by the prophet(saw). If you see a man boosting and attributing everything to his himself and his status is a jahil. You can hardly see intelligent people claim they have best of knowledge. Rather it is others that praise them. The same applies to solati Ibrahimmiya. It is indirectly sending salaams on the prophet. It is obligatory upon his ummah to to directly send Darood Shareef on him. So nothing is wrong with solati fatih. This argument should be put to stop. It is getting annoying. Whoever doesn't want to recite fatih is free to do so but please stop saying it is innovation because it is not. There are plenty of evidences in hadith where sohaba formed their own du'a, dhikr etc, in the presence of nabi and nabi(saw) had no problems with them.


Again, this is "Solati Fatih" they called "innovation".



O God bless our Master Muhammad (pbuh) who opened what had been closed, and who is the Seal of what had gone before, he who makes the Truth Victorious by the Truth, the guide to thy straight path, and bless his household as is the due of his immense position and grandeur.



So critics need to point out what is anti-islam in this phrases?. As for solati fatih having greater status over Qur'an, this was explained many times. Best explanation so far came from Sheikh Muhammad Mustapha Ashile (d. 1999). So i don't understand why critics focus on whatever suits them to criticize everything they understand not. Solati fatih is not greater than Qur'an. It is the same as when nabi (saw) enjoined his companions to recite entire Qur'an before going to bed and he(saw) pointed out sura ikhlas equal to reciting Qur'an. This is euphemism.



Ma Sha Allah, may Almighty Allah continue to increase you in knowledge. Asalamu alaikum.