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Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Nobody: 11:53pm On Mar 22, 2018 |
kimbraa: This is the most awkward sentence I have read all day. Are you drowning? 1 Like |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 11:54pm On Mar 22, 2018 |
Shugavee: It is not a gift. It is a marker/symbol of an intention. I don't know any gift only one kind of person can buy you and that is dependent on a question. 1 Like |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Evince(m): 11:54pm On Mar 22, 2018 |
vivypretty: It was symbolic license to own the dick so since the dick ain't hers again why keep the license? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Evince(m): 11:56pm On Mar 22, 2018 |
hajoke2000: Is that ur final answer. I guess u are wearing tinted glass when u read the question |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Nobody: 12:04am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Depends. Sometimes engagement rings can be gifts, in this situation the woman keeps it. If the man is the one to break the engagement off for no just reason or he suddenly wants to ditch her for another woman, she can also keep it. If she's the one to break the engagement off, then she has to return it. So depends on the situation..... |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by MissRaine69(f): 12:07am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:It’s not what we think should happen It’s what happens from a legal perspective The woman returns the ring regardless of who caused the break up. It’s viewed as a conditional gift. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by MissRaine69(f): 12:07am On Mar 23, 2018 |
aflyingbird:It’s returned to the giver if it’s taken to court |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Nobody: 12:08am On Mar 23, 2018 |
MissRaine69: No, not always. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by MissRaine69(f): 12:14am On Mar 23, 2018 |
aflyingbird:What people choose to do and what’s legal is two different things. If i was a man and I gave you ring and it did not work out and I asked for it back and you refused I will take you to court and the ring will be returned. It’s a conditional gift in the eyes of the law. We are not arguing grey areas here it’s what should happen not the Nigerian hijacked version of things. 1 Like |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Nobody: 12:21am On Mar 23, 2018 |
MissRaine69: If you take me to court, I might win if I can prove it wasn't a conditional gift. The "conditional" bit depends on many things. I'm outside Nigeria and speaking from the perspective of how things work around here. 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by obailala(m): 12:21am On Mar 23, 2018 |
What exactly would a lady use an engagement ring for if she isnt engaged to the man who got her the ring? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Harrynight(m): 12:21am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Cheap ring? I'll return it, Expensive ring? I'll disposed it |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by DAMIDEZ12(m): 12:23am On Mar 23, 2018 |
They we removed it |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:26am On Mar 23, 2018 |
MissRaine69: No, darling. It depends on the country. That is what I found out that made me create the thread and some yeye 2buffagain and Gerrard59 thought I had gone mad. In England law, it is regarded as an ABSOLUTE GIFT. Which means the man cannot get it back except the man can prove otherwise. So the burden of proof is on him. Typical UK! A man-hating country. The way it creates laws is: - If the issue is likely mainly affect a man, then it is okay. - Let women have rights, men have responsibilities. UK for you! I don't know how something that was bought for a specific aim that is then cancelled can be regarded as an absolute gift. But trust feminists, they will never complain about such but you see them all over UK TV whining about some nonsense claiming women are victims. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:29am On Mar 23, 2018 |
aflyingbird: So basically, your logic is: - If a man breaks off the engagement, he should get punished. - If a woman breaks off the engagement, she should not get the benefit to punish him? That is logical to you? Your logical compass is very similar to that of MrBrownJay1 |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by shaybebaby(f): 12:31am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:The law didn't evolve to protect women, stop being paranoid. It's to protect the coffers of the tax man. Because there are tax implications when "gifts" are involved. 3 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by MissRaine69(f): 12:31am On Mar 23, 2018 |
aflyingbird:An engement ring is conditional and no it does not depend on “ many things” it relates to marirage and as the daughter of a lawyer ( who makes a living out of this sort of thing here and abroad) this one I am quiet confident about regardless of location Why do you think Mariah Carey settled out of court? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by MissRaine69(f): 12:33am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:That’s easy If I was a man I will sue for breach of contract And I will get it back |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:34am On Mar 23, 2018 |
MissRaine69: I am afraid she is right. Only Ireland, out of all Anglo-Saxon developed countries I checked, had sane laws and regard it as a conditional gift. US and Canada is dependent on the state/region. Most follow her flawed logic of: - If a man breaks off the engagement, he should get punished. Men have responsibilities. - If a woman breaks off the engagement, she should not get the benefit to punish him? Women have rights. UK and Australia, just blatantly sexist! Only if a man can prove it is a family heirloom would it be returned, otherwise it is hers. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:42am On Mar 23, 2018 |
shaybebaby: Sorry, darling, there is no tax implications for engagement rings. EVEN if it is seen as absolute gifts. The laws in the UK are created to favour women. If a law is likely to, on most occassions, disadvantage women, it would be changed. If a law is likely to, on most occassions, disadvantage men, nothing would happen even though everyone knows it is wrong. That is UK for you. I remember when I told you feminist peeps I was a social observer and could write you volumes; I wasn't kidding, girl. https://www.nairaland.com/4316979/marriage-finally-over/16#64721687 |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by MissRaine69(f): 12:42am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:Two countries out of how many? If I was a man I would make sure I get engaged anywhere but those two! That said Why would I want to keep it? Punished for what? What’s preferable a broken engagement or a marriage? The ring will be returned regardless of whose at fault in my case there are things I will fight tooth and nail for but not for this type of memory. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Nobody: 12:47am On Mar 23, 2018 |
MissRaine69: Daughter of a Lawyer ko. If you were, YOU SHOULD KNOW that an engagement ring can be a gift if given on special days like birthdays, Val's day, Christmas and other holidays. If you were, YOU SHOULD KNOW there are times when people give engagement rings as a form of gift-exchange too. In situations like these an engagement ring is considered a gift and the woman keeps it. Daughter of a Lawyer ko. With your poor replies and the rate at which you keep posting fake pictures on your profile claiming them as yours, I hear you. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:48am On Mar 23, 2018 |
MissRaine69: In the UK? You would waste your money and lose. They don't give a shyt about your rights if you are male. Especially white, straight male. It is a loony liberal country that thinks it is okay to discriminate against them. I fully understand these guys anger. They would know it is wrong and injustice, yet, NOTHING would change because the chief advocates (the press) are all run by liberals. That is why, despite me thinking FOX News are lunatics, Americans should be grateful they have it. I heard Canada is like the UK too, where liberals control everything and want to force their lunacy on society. Here is a sample for you. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40294530 Canadian judge rules woman can keep $14,300 engagement ring The warped logic of the judge was that "she ended the relationship but he was the one that ended the engagement". I don't know how someone can remain engaged to someone they are no more in a relationship with. That is the sexist and misandrist madness one sees in countries like the UK nowadays. The feminist keep on pushing "victim" while advocating all rights but no resposibilities for women. 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by MissRaine69(f): 12:51am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite: And there are instances when a man won ... That’s a reference point |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by MissRaine69(f): 12:52am On Mar 23, 2018 |
aflyingbird:Thank you |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:55am On Mar 23, 2018 |
MissRaine69: Only in US and Canada. And it depends on the state. In the UK and Australia, hell no. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by MissRaine69(f): 12:56am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:This is why choosing wisely is essential |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:57am On Mar 23, 2018 |
aflyingbird: Hell fcking NO! It is a traditional symbolic gestures intended for only ONE purpose. 1 Like |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:58am On Mar 23, 2018 |
MissRaine69: Choosing what wisely? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by pensilpyper(m): 1:02am On Mar 23, 2018 |
omo na to auction the ring ooo if na expensive ring but if na 2k 3k ring dem fit vex throw am 4 wateromo na to auction the ring ooo if na expensive ring but if na 2k 3k ring dem fit vex throw am 4 wateromo na to auction the ring ooo if na expensive ring but if na 2k 3k ring dem fit vex throw am 4 water |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 1:03am On Mar 23, 2018 |
MissRaine69: The place you proposed/got engaged would be irrelevant in a UK court. As for why would you want to keep it; the culture that is dictact for the mumus that engage in it is that "if you really love and value the girl and want to show this", then it is customary you spend anywhere between 1 to 3 months salary on the engagement ring. That is enough incentive for anyone with a brain not to flush down the toilet. |
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