ifenes:


Marduk is another big story I will take time to tell. Jesus is one of the biggest scam that has worked on humanity. But on a soul level, these are hurdles we the incarnated soul chose to experience for further spiritual development.

Marduk unlike the other Anunaki was born on Nibiru. So he was supposed to be the heir to the throne. However I will discuss this some other time. But you do know that a woman cannot get pregnant via a dream right. So obviously someone mated with her. So the story of Jesus I will tell another time.

Tell me... how is Jesus a scam?

Are you saying Jesus never existed?

Anyways, I believe a woman can never get pregnant on her own...but I also came across a documentary on the blood of Jesus Christ...
The blood was tested by a team of DNA experts, and no chromosome traceable to an earthly father was found in the blood sample... Please tell me how this is possible...what could be the cause of this?

It's a National Geographic Documentary... I can put the link to the documentary if you care to watch it...
All the answers as to how the blood sample was obtained and tested are in the documentary (less than 25 minutes documentary)

ifenes:


You are mixing up the essence of human being with an androgynous entity. God is a corrupted word, that’s why I don’t use it. It basically means “ ALL THAT IS . You and I are a part of it and not in anyway subject to it because we are it.

But the bible put Yahweh in place of your / our essence and Roman Catholic Church delibratly replaced Esoteric knowledge with fake knowledge.

The entity Moses/ Akennakten encountered was Enlil not is true self. There is s big difference. These beings are so advance that they could infiltrate into your mind to manipulate you.

Do not forget the story of pharaoh. The part Enlil/Yahweh manipulated Pharoah’s heart is that he could kill the first borns of the land. You said God almighty doesn’t chose side, but that god clearly chose side.

If we’re to use God in its ideal sense. We can say it is gender less, but the bible uses “ he”. We can say God is not partial, but the bible made us see that God is not only partial but also becomes emotional. We can also say God is love and humility, but it’s clearly not the case in the bible. In fact the bible god demands worship , animal sacrifice at some point, love roasted animals. These are questionable characteristics. The Tower of Babel, saving only Noah, killing those who disobey it with fire ( atomic weapons? ) are just not GOd-like.

You said god is genderless. I personally think you are referring to our true form without a body. Yes we are all genderless beings. We have a gendered body to function on this physical plane which shouldn’t be our identity. But this bible god is against homosexuality, that’s ungodly, don’t you think ?

I agree with you that God is the creator of this reality, this experience we are all having, it’s genderless, non bias, all loving, non judgmental and I must say that is a perfect description of yourself. God in prison of negative illusion about to wake up to its true self.

The "bible god" being against Homosexuality is on point...

What value does homosexuality add to humanity? Do you know of any human born through that means?

Supporting homosexuality is as good as supporting the use of a toothbrush to comb one's hair.

The sexual organs have their purpose and function...and anything outside the way it is intended to function is abuse and perversion...
That includes rape as well...

I don't even need a Bible or Holy book to tell me homosexuality is "ungodly"... it serves no useful purpose whatsoever to humanity...

ifenes:


Marduk is another big story I will take time to tell. Jesus is one of the biggest scam that has worked on humanity. But on a soul level, these are hurdles we the incarnated soul chose to experience for further spiritual development.

Marduk unlike the other Anunaki was born on Nibiru. So he was supposed to be the heir to the throne. However I will discuss this some other time. But you do know that a woman cannot get pregnant via a dream right. So obviously someone mated with her. So the story of Jesus I will tell another time.

Lord Mardukai can't possibly be heir to the Nibiru throne. He's Lord Enki's seed and Lord Enki isn't a full royal blood.

Open to corrections.

Emmanystone:

Good mirning good sir.

Good afternoon sir.

correctguy101:


Lord Mardukai can't possibly be heir to the Nibiru throne. He's Lord Enki's seed and Lord Enki isn't a full royal blood.

Open to corrections.

And his grandpa is Anu - the self acclaimed almighty god. He was born in Nibiru and that was a big deal to the Anunnaki culture. Marduk was like prince William to the queen of England. Taking out Enlil and Enki, he became the hair to the throne of the Annunaki. I am not just making up this. I have access to the real stories of Nibiru that’s why. I didn’t get my info on the internet, I have seen and got direct interpretations. In fact some of the stories about activities of the Anunaki are in Colchester university of Essex. I have seen them, so I’m not making up. I know someone who is even writing a book with them.

OkCornel:


The "bible god" being against Homosexuality is on point...

What value does homosexuality add to humanity? Do you know of any human born through that means?

Supporting homosexuality is as good as supporting the use of a toothbrush to comb one's hair.

The sexual organs have their purpose and function...and anything outside the way it is intended to function is abuse and perversion...
That includes rape as well...

I don't even need a Bible or Holy book to tell me homosexuality is "ungodly"... it serves no useful purpose whatsoever to humanity...

But you said god has no gender, which means god is both Male and female energy, god isn’t bias....,So why are you against homosexuality, why are you against a human expressing themselves the way they choose. Don’t you think tolerance is a godly attribute ? Because you don’t like something doesn’t mean you must stone others who do it. Don’t be close minded. There should be no room for discrimination.

OkCornel:


Tell me... how is Jesus a scam?

Are you saying Jesus never existed?

Anyways, I believe a woman can never get pregnant on her own...but I also came across a documentary on the blood of Jesus Christ...
The blood was tested by a team of DNA experts, and no chromosome traceable to an earthly father was found in the blood sample... Please tell me how this is possible...what could be the cause of this?

It's a National Geographic Documentary... I can put the link to the documentary if you care to watch it...
All the answers as to how the blood sample was obtained and tested are in the documentary (less than 25 minutes documentary)

We ain’t babies here. A documentary on the dna of Jesus and how a woman can get pregnant on her own ? Really!! Please let’s discuss serious issues

ifenes:


We ain’t babies here. A documentary on the dna of Jesus and how a woman can get pregnant on her own ? Really!! Please let’s discuss serious issues

Perhaps you are making mockery of National Geographic channel and Scientists as well...

Why not examine the evidence before you dismiss it?

The Blood of Christ

Trace the blood stained Shroud of Oviedo to Israel in a quest to determine whether it holds Christ's DNA, and in a most chilling discovery, finds that it contains no evidence of a father's DNA.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/videos/the-blood-of-christ/

ifenes:


But you said god has no gender, which means god is both Male and female energy, god isn’t bias....,So why are you against homosexuality, why are you against a human expressing themselves the way they choose. Don’t you think tolerance is a godly attribute ? Because you don’t like something doesn’t mean you must stone others who do it. Don’t be close minded. There should be no room for discrimination.

And the same God who His infinite wisdom gave humans sexual organs for procreation...

Don't you think there are do's and dont's on how these sexual organs be used?

If you think homosexuality is ungodly...what of incest and bestiality? Do you still need a holy book to tell you these acts are perverse and senseless?

OkCornel:


Perhaps you are making mockery of National Geographic channel and Scientists as well...

Why not examine the evidence before you dismiss it?

I respect science and it’s little achievements always. They have so far made us lazy and comfortable. However I will not be told what to think. Either Mary got seeded by the Annunaki or she mated with an Earthling. I can see the plan to justify the bible story here.

ifenes:


We ain’t babies here. A documentary on the dna of Jesus and how a woman can get pregnant on her own ? Really!! Please let’s discuss serious issues

Exactly, we ain't babies here...and I didn't criticize you for wholeheartedly believing an ancient text on how humans were created...

So let's discuss serious issues and cut out the jabs...

Examine the documentary in the link I posted earlier ...and then feel free to call the Scientists liars... that's if you have sufficient proof of them telling lies...

Please tell me...is there any proof of existence for Enlil or Enki or Marduk asides what was written in the Sumerian texts?

ifenes:


I respect science and it’s little achievements always. They have so far made us lazy and comfortable. However I will not be told what to think. Either Mary got seeded by the Annunaki or she mated with an Earthling. I can see the plan to justify the bible story here.

If she was impregnated by an Earthling...then the DNA test in the blood sample will show 23 chromosomes traceable to an earthly father...but that is not the case here...

1) And why do you have to see everything through the Annunaki lense? Or are the Annunakis the only "extra-terrestials" in the Universe?
2) Has there been any sightings of planet Nibiru?
3) which of the solar systems is it resident in?
4) Does NASA have any evidence or sightings of this planet Nibiru?

At least there should be one of these powerful NASA telescopes that should sight this planet Nibiru...since it's in a solar system (not galaxy o) not to far from ours...


NOTE: I am not fighting or arguing with you. I am only seeking answers to these questions...

OkCornel:


And the same God who His infinite wisdom gave humans sexual organs for procreation...

Don't you think there are do's and dont's on how these sexual organs be used?

If you think homosexuality is ungodly...what of incest and bestiality? Do you still need a holy book to tell you these acts are perverse and senseless?

You are giving god( all that is in existence) a muscular figure again. “ He” for god( a verb). Or perhaps you want to explain why god is a “he” ?

There is no such thing as a “holy bible”. Today’s laws are much better than the bible. Love, togetherness, hope, peace is what we should express. Not hell fire, judgment, division.

Homosexuality is a sin in the bible because it belong to the past. Togetherness, all inclusiveness is godly

ifenes:


You are giving god( all that is in existence) a muscular figure again. “ He” for god( a verb). Or perhaps you want to explain why god is a “he” ?

There is no such thing as a “holy bible”. Today’s laws are much better than the bible. Love, togetherness, hope, peace is what we should express. Not hell fire, judgment, division.

Homosexuality is a sin in the bible because it belong to the past. Togetherness, all inclusiveness is godly

What pronoun do you suggest I call God... IT?

By the way;

1)What value does homosexuality add to humanity?
2)Can homosexuality preserve the existence of the human race?
3)Can homosexuality breed children?
4)Have you for once asked why the male and female organs were designed to function the way they should?
5)Why wasn't man designed to reproduce asexually?


It is sheer hypocrisy for a human being who owes his/her through sexual reproduction (union of male and female cells) to canvass for homosexuality or lesbianism. I am struggling to understand the logic behind it.


If your parents or my parents were homosexuals or lesbians... I doubt if we will be having this conversation...

OkCornel:


If she was impregnated by an Earthling...then the DNA test in the blood sample will show 23 chromosomes traceable to an earthly father...but that is not the case here...

1) And why do you have to see everything through the Annunaki lense? Or are the Annunakis the only "extra-terrestials" in the Universe?
2) Has there been any sightings of planet Nibiru?
3) which of the solar systems is it resident in?
4) Does NASA have any evidence or sightings of this planet Nibiru?


NOTE: I am not fighting or arguing with you. I am only seeking answers to these questions...

There is no DNA sample of Jesus. Did they get that’s of Horus and the other saviour gods ?

NASA will not tell you the truth just as the bible won’t either. It is up to you to figure out stuff.

If I told about about a vast population of advance underground civilisation you probably will not believe because it’s not in the bible. We only perceive a few percentage of the Universe. The Anunaki are one of many non terrestrials who have visited earth. The western govt know and will not say to keep control. Religion is good to control the population.

ifenes:


There is no DNA sample of Jesus. Did they get that’s of Horus and the other saviour gods ?

NASA will not tell you the truth just as the bible won’t either. It is up to you to figure out stuff.

If I told about about a vast population of advance underground civilisation you probably will not believe because it’s not in the bible. We only perceive a few percentage of the Universe. The Anunaki are one of many non terrestrials who have visited earth. The western govt know and will not say to keep control. Religion is good to control the population.

You have not watched the documentary, but you are concluding already...

Bros, the Jews knew Jesus existed...but majority of them do not believe in Him as the son of God or as the Messiah...
But they know He once lived in Israel...the records are there... You cannot know the history of the Jews better than the Jews themselves...

I am not talking about religion or holy books here... I am dealing with evidence. Thankfully, this documentary was not done by a Christian scientist...else I would believe it is biased... I am talking of a neutral source here - National Geographic Channel

Asides the Sumerian texts, is there any evidence for the existence of Enki, Enlil or Mardurk?

OkCornel:


You have not watched the documentary, but you are concluding already...

Bros, the Jews knew Jesus existed...but majority of them do not believe in Him as the son of God or as the Messiah...
But they know He once lived in Israel...the records are there... You cannot know the history of the Jews better than the Jews themselves...

Asides the Sumerian texts, is there any evidence for the existence of Enki, Enlil or Mardurk?

You did not answer my questions.

ifenes:


You did not answer my questions.

About Horus?

That is if Horus existed.
As for Jesus, He was buried in a tomb, He was crucified on a cross.

These are two different sources of getting His DNA...

As for Horus...when did he live and die? around what period did he exist on earth? That would be the start point for any archaeologist and investigator to start with

Please do well to answer my questions as well

The bible is an Anunnaki story. From Genesis to revelation is reformed Anunnaki story. It’s either you are too deep in the catholic book or you just wanna believe the bible which never existed thousands of years after the Sumerians wrote those stories. This debate is going in circles I think.

ifenes:
The bible is an Anunnaki story. From Genesis to revelation is reformed Anunnaki story. It’s either you are too deep in the catholic book or you just wanna believe the bible which never existed thousands of years after the Sumerians wrote those stories. This debate is going in circles I think.

You are still seeing things from the narrow view point of Annunaki...

Of all the discoveries going on in outerspace... has NASA sighted any planet called Nibiru?

ifenes:
The bible is an Anunnaki story. From Genesis to revelation is reformed Anunnaki story. It’s either you are too deep in the catholic book or you just wanna believe the bible which never existed thousands of years after the Sumerians wrote those stories. This debate is going in circles I think.

I earlier mentioned to you that...the first person to report a story does not automatically make it the accurate version of the story...

Let me ask you..if you are an investigator trying to settle conflicting view points in a story... will you automatically believe the person who first tells you his/her side of the story?

OkCornel:


About Horus?

That is if Horus existed.
As for Jesus, He was buried in a tomb, He was crucified on a cross.

These are two different sources of getting His DNA...

As for Horus...when did he live and die? around what period did he exist on earth?

Why do you use He for the term god if you say it’s not an Annunaki ?

ifenes:


Why do you use He for the term god if you say it’s not an Annunaki ?

Do you prefer I use "IT"?

By the way, the story about Horus and the other savior gods were explained in the video I posted on this thread...
Same old stories evolving from the Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz trinity stories that evolved from ancient Babylon...

OkCornel:


You are still seeing things from the narrow view point of Annunaki...

Of all the discoveries going on in outerspace... has NASA sighted any planet called Nibiru?

No you are seeing things only from the bible point of view. Why do you believe the bible ?

Besides I never said I Anunaki are 100 true. I’m saying their story inspired the bible stories from the flood, Adam and even, all the atrocities committed in the bible by a “ loving god”.

I don’t worship any god, you do.

OkCornel:


Do you prefer I use "IT"?

By the way, the story about Horus and the other savior gods were explained in the video I posted on this thread...
Same old stories evolving from the Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz trinity stories that evolved from ancient Babylon...

Why use “ it” ? You have been using “ he” so you must have a reason

OkCornel:


I earlier mentioned to you that...the first person to report a story does not automatically make it the accurate version of the story...

Let me ask you..if you are an investigator trying to settle conflicting view points in a story... will you automatically believe the person who first tells you his/her side of the story?

Do you believe the bible is authentic and the others are false ?

You believe it was an apple and not genetics ?

You believe Mary got pregnant by herself without a seed ?


Is that where you stand ?

OkCornel:


Do you prefer I use "IT"?

By the way, the story about Horus and the other savior gods were explained in the video I posted on this thread...
Same old stories evolving from the Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz trinity stories that evolved from ancient Babylon...

Anyone can make videos. Let’s not even go into Horus.

ifenes:


No you are seeing things only from the bible point of view. Why do you believe the bible ?

Besides I never said I Anunaki are 100 true. I’m saying their story inspired the bible stories from the flood, Adam and even, all the atrocities committed in the bible by a “ loving god”.

I don’t worship any god, you do.

I have consulted the following books;

1) Genesis
2) Book of Jasher
3) Book of Enoch
4) The Antiquity of the Jews by Josephus
5) The Urantia Papers
6) The Epic of Gilgamesh

I have also considered a lot of documentaries on archaeology, the universe and astronomy.

Looking at the bigger picture, the Annunaki theory fits into the fallen angels account in the Bible and the book of Enoch...
Did you consider the drawings of the "gods" with wings on the Sumerian artifacts?

I don't care about any god except the one who is responsible for the existence of the Universe and everything in it...

ifenes:


Anyone can make videos. Let’s not even go into Horus.

You have not examined the evidence and yet you are concluding...

Well anyone can also make videos to tell us stories about Nibiru that has never been seen by a NASA telescope...

By the way, what would NASA gain by "covering up" their discovery on Planet Nibiru?

ifenes:


Do you believe the bible is authentic and the others are false ?

You believe it was an apple and not genetics ?

You believe Mary got pregnant by herself without a seed ?


Is that where you stand ?

I would also wish the Bible is completely false...

But can you explain how the DNA of a human being has no chromosome traceable to an earthly father?

And where did you read that the fruit in question was an apple?

Unless you wanna live in denial...don't bother going through the video.

I am not scared of seeking the TRUTH...that is why I have read a lot of books far and wide...including the Epic of Gilgamesh..
I am also not going to ridicule you for choosing to believe the Annunaki story with no evidence for the sighting of planet Nibiru...

budaatum:

Good afternoon sir.

Ifenes, you keep contradicting yourself.

By all means, you'd wish YHWH wasn't God, but sorry, He is and you are confused.

See how hollow this guy has exposed you to be.

You are only looking for what to hold onto.