Rubbiish:

In order of strength;
1. 9 inches hollow block
2. 6 inches solid block
3. 6 inches hollow block

Thanks

Good suggestion sir. I am looking at the option of a steel building if it is more cost efficient and I can find an experienced company that I can work with.

Rubbiish:

I will advise u to go for portal frame sir

katamo:
Good suggestion sir. I am looking at the option of a steel building if it is more cost efficient and I can find an experienced company that I can work with.

Steel portal frame structure will be best for the purpose your building is meant for.
@bold You don't need Julius berger to do it, any of our credible NL engineers or architects can do it.
But if the location is around Abuja axis, i can recommend someone that has done something similar for friend in 2016. A fruit processing facility. All i know about portal frame was through him.

Flaghouse1:


Bros,

How many of us remember to put off our appliances on daily basis ,talkless of house owner remembering to put off electric fences with daily and at routined time , Bros that one day difficult with all these harsh economic realities men have a lot to think of oooo

You actually dont have to 'remember' to do the On/Off stuff.
All you need is to incorporate an automatic Timer switch (programmed to switch it off/On at predetermined times of the day).

I dont want to get involed in this Eletric fence arguement because l am sure almost all of us here remember we have discussed its merit and demerits, in detail, a few pages back.

The level of "defense" you install, should be proportional to the level of threat (and response) that you face.

If anyone jumps your fence in the US, you dial 911 and Police is there within five minutes or less...why then do you need an electric fence?
If same happens in Nigeria, l am sure we all know they are not coming to pick their 'ball' that fell into your compound at 2am in the dark of the night. and the Police will rather be 'raiding' than attend to your distress call ......so if such people they get jolted and thrown-off (not killed instantly), they deserve it.

That my take

TOKNOW:


Thanks a lot

You are welcome.

Daboomb:




You actually dont have to 'remember' to do the On/Off stuff.
All you need is to incorporate an automatic Timer switch (programmed to switch it off/On at predetermined times of the day).

I dont want to get involed in this Eletric fence arguement because l am sure almost all of us here remember we have discussed its merit and demerits, in detail, a few pages back.

The level of "defense" you install, should be proportional to the level of threat (and response) that you face.

If anyone jumps your fence in the US, you dial 911 and Police is there within five minutes or less...why then do you need an electric fence?
If same happens in Nigeria, l am sure we all know they are not coming to pick their 'ball' that fell into your compound at 2am in the dark of the night. and the Police will rather be 'raiding' than attend to your distress call ......so if such people they get jolted and thrown-off (not killed instantly), they deserve it.

That my take

Nice analogy and summation, my only interest is the safety portion of the installation which should incorporate defence for kids though

Dremca:
Cost of internet data is also a limitaion. This was one of the setback I discovered in the use of tech gadgets at home when I made a post about smart door lock. Most of these tsmart techproducts ought to be operated via internet on the smart phone. If cost of data is not a problem, it can be installed in Nigerian homes, at least we have top three 4G ISP in Nigeria.

Not just cost!

Even when you can afford it, RELIABILITY is the major headache,
I installed some security stuff in my place and l am supposed to operate them remotely from anywhere in the world but if l tell you that l have been changing from one Internet provider to another, looking for one whose signal is robust and does not break-off at will?

I think some of these problems are deliberate, enshrined just to keep the citizens on a leash, by the Powers-that-be

Thanks a lot. If you can connect me with you the person I will speak to him. I appreciate the recommendation!

Rubbiish:

Steel portal frame structure will be best for the purpose your building is meant for.
@bold You don't need Julius berger to do it, any of our credible NL engineers or architects can do it.
But if the location is around Abuja axis, i can recommend someone that has done something similar for friend in 2016. A fruit processing facility. All i know about portal frame was through him.

Flaghouse1:


Nice analogy and summation, my only interest is the safety portion of the installation which should incorporate defence for kids though

Absolutely, safety first.

Most loose sight of that and they’re emboldened due to lackluster legal enforcements in Nigeria.

I see them all the time on my flights. They’re the perfect gentlemen in Houston or Atlanta but the minute the plane touches down in Lagos they loose all control and throw all decency out of the window.

We have a long way to go. A long way.

Flaghouse1:


Nice analogy and summation, my only interest is the safety portion of the installation which should incorporate defence for kids though

If the fence is high enough, before adding the Elelctric part, say 7ft, l dont see "kids" trying to jump that, especially in the night hours!

Chronic Problems, deserve or require some very 'Chronic' solutions.
Nigeria to some, can be a dangerous place, at times.

bixton:


Some times I wonder how we corroborate stories.
There are lots of cars parked in mechanic shops/broken down automobiles along the road,etc,etc, all left for and abandoned/forgotten by the owners and yet I keep wondering how did I miss not seeing weed grow on them...........

Generalisation is not ideal.

my oga, seriously, I never knew a day like this would come , I should have been taking pictures. it's OK, I should give up till I can provide visual evidence of what I claimed to have observed.

alstacs:


my oga, seriously, I never knew a day like this would come , I should have been taking pictures. it's OK, I should give up till I can provide visual evidence of what I claimed to have observed.

It’s true. I believe you because I’ve seen it.

Any surface where sand gathers can promote germination.

EgunMogaji:

It’s true. I believe you because I’ve seen it.
Any surface where sand gathers can promote germination.

mày you live long, baba mi.

who can recommend a very good aluminium window maker, i have a job for you. moderately big job. mufutau55, Egunmogaji..please help out.

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EgunMogaji:


Unfortunately I can’t. At least for now until I figure some things out.

I’ll continue to encourage all of us to do something about entrapment during a fire.

Thanks.

Okay but I know burglar bars are not actually Architecturally necessity made it popular I have Client who don't even use any. But the live in heavily secured estates though.but for most of us Aston man go do.

TheMinimalist:
Why do you have to build such high fences with barbed wire, no trees or grass, and now some are talking about electric fences .that sounds like hell if you have to go through such security measures just a for a simple middle class duplex . It's not like its a 30,000 sqft mega mansion.
Plus,Nigeria is a new market and there should be some architectural innovation,not the same old boring colonial methods.

I think the government should enact building codes with strict safety measures. High fences only encourages curiosity of the armed robbers. there would be less armed robbery if all homes have low fences and if people don't keep money at home . I read someone talking about unearthing a skeleton of a goat in a house and all of that voodoo stuff, man what a stone age mentality .

l agree with your position on High fences, I listened to Lagos state commissioner of police few weeks ago and he was of the opinion that high fences are not a deterrence to criminals, he advised for home owners to go for short fences where people can easily see through your home and that some criminals think twice before invading such homes because of fear of been seen by other neighbors who will quickly call the police or other landlords to wake-up, I posted it here few months ago, 3 of my neighbors who had gigantic fence and Iron gates where all robbed

aonag:
who can recommend a very good aluminium window maker, i have a job for you. moderately big job. mufutau55, Egunmogaji..please help out.

What area? The guy that did mine quotation was quite reasonable and the job was up to standard. Caveat emptor, I have used him only once and I was happy with his work and quote, so I am not recommending him on the basis that I guarantee that you will feel the same (i.e. I take no responsibilities)!

EgunMogaji:


There are many disadvantages.

Personally I think it’s criminal to erect this within 25 to 50 feet of a setback and especially as a first line of defense.

But na Naija we dey, anything goes.

I think its like putting a tazer on top and round your perimeter fencing plus an alarm if it is tampered with. It aint criminal to carry a tazer in your hand bag neither is it criminal to tazer a person after warning him.

It is only a crime when you dont put up a sign such as below. If you really care for neighbours, put a fence light facing them. This is to tell them its not a joke. In fact, the electric fence has a low and high voltage settings both which are actually lower compared to a tazer gun.

akinolaolujide:

Okay but I know burglar bars are not actually Architecturally necessity made it popular I have Client who don't even use any. But the live in heavily secured estates though.but for most of us Aston man go do.

Fortunately, I don’t live in an estate.

I consider both the razor wire and burglary bars to be reasonable first and fourth level of defense. But there must be at least one or more openable bars in the house for emergency egress.

Thankfully, both are easily removable in the future.

adanny01:


I think its like putting a tazer on top and round your perimeter fencing plus an alarm if it is tampered with. It aint criminal to carry a tazer in your hand bag neither is it criminal to tazer a person after warning him.

It is only a crime when you dont put up a sign such as below. If you really care for neighbours, put a fence light facing them. This is to tell them its not a joke. In fact, the electric fence has a low and high voltage settings both which are actually lower compared to a tazer gun.

I respect your position but I continue to disagree that electrified fence is a logical thing to have in a residential neighborhood. Just as in elevated tanks, there are alternatives.

Daboomb:



Not just cost!

Even when you can afford it, RELIABILITY is the major headache,
I installed some security stuff in my place and l am supposed to operate them remotely from anywhere in the world but if l tell you that l have been changing from one Internet provider to another, looking for one whose signal is robust and does not break-off at will?

I think some of these problems are deliberate, enshrined just to keep the citizens on a leash, by the Powers-that-be

Have you tried using Smile

The Nigerian Building Code, for anyone that has an interest.

http://sdngnet.com/Files/Lectures/FUTA-ARC-807-Professional_Practice_and_Procedure/CD%202013-2014/National%20Building%20Code%20of%20Nigeria%202006.pdf

TheMinimalist:
Why do you have to build such high fences with barbed wire, no trees or grass, and now some are talking about electric fences .that sounds like hell if you have to go through such security measures just a for a simple middle class duplex . It's not like its a 30,000 sqft mega mansion.
Plus,Nigeria is a new market and there should be some architectural innovation,not the same old boring colonial methods.

I think the government should enact building codes with strict safety measures. High fences only encourages curiosity of the armed robbers. there would be less armed robbery if all homes have low fences and if people don't keep money at home . I read someone talking about unearthing a skeleton of a goat in a house and all of that voodoo stuff, man what a stone age mentality .

I dont think low fences will keep away arm robbers but the beauty of the house will likely attact them. I f a house is well painted will beautiful colors especially in an average neighborhood, the robbers will be believe the owner must be rich but when not painted or not so beautiful, it will likely attract less attention.

Dremca:
Have you tried using Smile

Depend on location

For In Lagos ntel...Still preferred

twinskenny:


Depend on location

For In Lagos ntel...Still preferred

Yea. Some work best in some location.

Dremca:
I dont think low fences will keep away arm robbers but the beauty of the house will likely attact them. I f a house is well painted will beautiful colors especially in an average neighborhood, the robbers will be believe the owner must be rich but when not painted or not so beautiful, it will likely attract less attention.

It's a loose loose situation as with most things in Nigeria

EgunMogaji:


I respect your position but I continue to disagree that electrified fence is a logical thing to have in a residential neighborhood. Just as in elevated tanks, there are alternatives.

I also do respect your opinion especially as it has to do with safety of lives.

Nigerians almost always do not put safety first. We usually chose the option that economically suits the purpose.

For example, my parents live in an area where there are 2 public water supply access from the same water board. One has water 24/7 but low pressure while the other has very high pressure but supply is 2hrs 3 times daily. The low pressure doesnt deliver to shower heads but the high pressure even delivers to overhead tanks and faster than most borehole pumps.

With an over head tank, the high pressure side delivers 24hrs water plus 3-5 days back up when water board has issues. Their issues affects both supply pipes because one is a direct supply from their pumping station while the other is a from a public tank located on a hill. The water board pumps both lines with electricity so both would be affected if there is no power for days in a row.

Which of these water distribution lines would you prefer?

The need for a fence line protection is not always necessary. It is not for armed robbers, it is meant for bugglers. Depending on your area, a fence security may or may not be necessary. Rich Nigerians would just want to be safe if they can afford it. Its like buying an amoured car, in most cases, its just a waste of precious resources.

rabcnesbit:


What area? The guy that did mine quotation was quite reasonable and the job was up to standard. Caveat emptor, I have used him only once and I was happy with his work and quote, so I am not recommending him on the basis that I guarantee that you will feel the same (i.e. I take no responsibilities)!

is ge on nl?

adanny01:


I also do respect your opinion especially as it has to do with safety of lives.

Nigerians almost always do not put safety first. We usually chose the option that economically suits the purpose.

For example, my parents live in an area where there are 2 public water supply access from the same water board. One has water 24/7 but low pressure while the other has very high pressure but supply is 2hrs 3 times daily. The low pressure doesnt deliver to shower heads but the high pressure even delivers to overhead tanks and faster than most borehole pumps.

With an over head tank, the high pressure side delivers 24hrs water plus 3-5 days back up when water board has issues. Their issues affects both supply pipes because one is a direct supply from their pumping station while the other is a from a public tank located on a hill. The water board pumps both lines with electricity so both would be affected if there is no power for days in a row.

Which of these water distribution lines would you prefer?

The need for a fence line protection is not always necessary. It is not for armed robbers, it is meant for bugglers. Depending on your area, a fence security may or may not be necessary. Rich Nigerians would just want to be safe if they can afford it. Its like buying an amoured car, in most cases, its just a waste of precious resources.

My primary hobby is car restoration and the fence is there to shield the neighbors from noise and some other things that I do.

You know, we all have to make decisions, I just wish that the government works and doesn't force us to have to make these hard decisions that are sometimes counterproductive.

aonag:
who can recommend a very good aluminium window maker, i have a job for you. moderately big job. mufutau55, Egunmogaji..please help out.

The guy who has been doing my windows for long time. He is located at around Abule-egba area (Lagos) but he works anywhere. I do not take a y responsibilities for his action, this is just a reccommendation, so proceed with your own due deligence. He is not a Nairalander but has worked for many Nairalanders thru me.

Contact me for his contact info.

Hajji M.