Calling without training. Do you know that Bishop Oyedepo, Chris Okotie, David Ibiyomie, etc all passed through schools of ministry where they were trained in the Word and in ministry? Even Bishop was told by God to go to Rev Adeboye and have him lay hands on him to receive the anointing he is running with today. He has many spiritual fathers, including Kenneth Hagin, Late Archbishop Benson Idahosa and Wigglesworth.

You just say you received a calling, and with no mentorship or training, you have been enticed to go and start a vagabond ministry without spiritual foundation or leadership.

Your wife is the wise one. She has seen where this will end and she does not want to be part of the train wreck that your so-called ministry will become. Better listen to your wife and be wise. God will not speak to anyone else about you but your spouse, because you are one. God is not a God of confusion. He will not leave talking to your wife to go tell someone else to affirm your "calling".

Reset your brain! Ministry without spiritual covering or foundation will end up like a desert!

AntiWailer:
How ?

She does not want u to hide ur laziness under calling ?

Can i know what u do for a living ?

Do u earn enough to take care of ur family before u saw the miss calls ?

Some one telling u to join him in starting a ministry does not endorse the fact that God called u.



They are investing. And the smart pastor knew u can pull the resources. That is why he targetted you.

I am a civil servant grade level 9 going to 10
I am not suffering

femi4:
So your calling does not support you being a pastor in your Church. That's not how God called people. There was no Elisha until Elijah left. Who is your spiritual father, under what authority are you presently?

If you go out before your time, you ll struggle

My brother, God bless you for the bolded.

Audray:
Go do something better with your life and forget that religious scam "calling" you claim you heard. Nigeria more than enough churches to suck it's citizens pockets dry.

U intrigue me!!!!
N dat is weird!!

pray to God to touch her heart, God can make lines fall in pleasant place for you. If truly it is of God no man on earth can stop it. It is one of the devices of the devil to stop discourage you because he knows the trouble that awaits him if the ministry starts. Bind the devil, and birth your wife into the ministry through your prayer.

Shalom

Demzlent:



I am a civil servant grade level 9 going to 10
I am not suffering

I see.

That can not buy a jet.


Jokes apart. Go back to God. Tell him to convince your wife or you wont do it.

As for the man dt said u shld join him. Pray abt it too.

Demzlent:
Please I need a good advice from my Christian brothers and sisters

I and my wife are attending a big Church which she loves a lot,she is even the one that made me to be attending the Church. I have a calling which I'm sure of
Then late last year a fellow Christian who is a minister of God called me that we should start a ministry together, I agreed and we started working on.
The ministry is starting today and my wife is insisting that I should not go that if I go she will divorce me. She even called the man we are to start the ministry together and threatened him
Please what should I do? Help me.
Should I go ahead?

Christianity is a scam.

Alexk2:
Why are you here asking nairalanders that is full is atheists and semi-atheist who are bench warmers in churches. How many people here do you think really understand or believe in been "called" to ministry by God?
I dont doubt people when they say they're called just like you're claiming but I'll always ask if they're very sure the call is indeed from God and to do what? For example, God can call you into ministry right in that same church that you're together with your wife and He can call you for a specific purpose that has nothing to do with you leaving your church in any way....at the same time the call can also be to separate yourself for a different ministry-"called out"...so the question is are you sure He called you and if He did called you, He'll never leave you confused, He'll give the direction to go.
As for your wife, tell the God who call you or rather report her to God who called you. God cannot call you and not make provision for her; He know how to perfect it....meanwhile, note that divorce can never be His solution.

Thanks
I thought there is a trend for Christians here not knowing it's general for religion
Some comment here a non 'Christianic'

Bro u are in the wrongest forum to seek advice. My own take if the calling to start a ministry is from God, then go ahead.

cooltola:
Bro u are in the wrongest forum to seek advice. My own take if the calling to start a ministry is from God, then go ahead.

And start the ministry as a divorcee ?

Op following ur heart, never listen to a woman, especially wen d conviction within u is strong, even if it is not too clear

Even pastor chris wife divorced him, TD jakes, Beni Hill and others was not spared

If u fail tomorrow ur wife will never agree she was the one dat threatened u not to start ur ministry

Well wat ever she is doing now, she totally didn't hide it from u wen u guys were dating, na u nor hear word

D reason she don't want to be married to a pasto4is bcus she don't want to share her husband with another

Some Women have d mindset dat a pastor is married to all his members bcus she can't have him alone

If u can't battle dis out with ur wife and start ur ministry, how can u withstand d kingdom of hell wen d ministry is in full operation

This is ur first test, how u are able to pass through dis and start will determine how far u can go

kikiwendy:
Listen to your wife.. I agree with the FTC.. We have so many churches and ministry but problems keep getting cumbersome

The church they are currently attending, let the "Daddy GO" close that one first. What will make the new church worse than the one they already go to.

Church is a free for all. Like anybody can hawk Lacasera. No regulation. Noise everywhere. One more will make no difference.

To me the wife is disloyal. She has no cogent reason to stop her hubby except that she's more loyal to her daddy GO.

Why would she want to remain a servant to one GO than support her hubby?

Could it be she wants to remain close to a guy in the church and do so without suspicion since her hubby is seen with her in church??

frank317:
what is the meaning of u have a calling? become a pastor in the church u are attending? must u start your own church? we already have enough church business with nothin to show for it. what effect will a new church have for Nigeria? why is God calling everybody yet no significant effect on the life of the people?
your wife knows u are fake and does not want u to join the league of scammers we already have in nigeria

O boy this one more than advice ooo. This is real bashing

Demzlent:
Please I need a good advice from my Christian brothers and sisters

I and my wife are attending a big Church which she loves a lot,she is even the one that made me to be attending the Church. I have a calling which I'm sure of
Then late last year a fellow Christian who is a minister of God called me that we should start a ministry together, I agreed and we started working on.
The ministry is starting today and my wife is insisting that I should not go that if I go she will divorce me. She even called the man we are to start the ministry together and threatened him
Please what should I do? Help me.
Should I go ahead?

Did you pray about the partnership in the founding of a ministry? What did God say to you and if God did approve, find a way to cajole your wife and if she refuses, go do what the Lord has asked of you and don't forget to pray that the holy spirit should convince her as you try to get her to support and follow your lead as her spouse. You

Demzlent:
Please I need a good advice from my Christian brothers and sisters

I and my wife are attending a big Church which she loves a lot,she is even the one that made me to be attending the Church. I have a calling which I'm sure of
Then late last year a fellow Christian who is a minister of God called me that we should start a ministry together, I agreed and we started working on.
The ministry is starting today and my wife is insisting that I should not go that if I go she will divorce me. She even called the man we are to start the ministry together and threatened him
Please what should I do? Help me.
Should I go ahead?

Did you pray about the partnership in the founding of a ministry? What did God say to you and if God did approve, find a way to cajole your wife and if she refuses, go do what the Lord has asked of you and don't forget to pray that the holy spirit should convince her as you try to get her to support and follow your lead as her spouse.

Alexk2:
Why are you here asking nairalanders that is full is atheists and semi-atheist who are bench warmers in churches. How many people here do you think really understand or believe in been "called" to ministry by God?
I dont doubt people when they say they're called just like you're claiming but I'll always ask if they're very sure the call is indeed from God and to do what? For example, God can call you into ministry right in that same church that you're together with your wife and He can call you for a specific purpose that has nothing to do with you leaving your church in any way....at the same time the call can also be to separate yourself for a different ministry-"called out"...so the question is are you sure He called you and if He did called you, He'll never leave you confused, He'll give the direction to go.
As for your wife, tell the God who call you or rather report her to God who called you. God cannot call you and not make provision for her; He know how to perfect it....meanwhile, note that divorce can never be His solution.

you people should have dictionary o ! - called out , called in etc na wa o

lasisi69:
boss, I bin dey here o

chai!!! Naim u come lost abi make i say disappear here?
With the multitudes of end time things going on here on nairaland, we need a faithful endtime preacher to constantly remind Seun and his mods.

Demzlent:
Please I need a good advice from my Christian brothers and sisters

I and my wife are attending a big Church which she loves a lot,she is even the one that made me to be attending the Church. I have a calling which I'm sure of
Then late last year a fellow Christian who is a minister of God called me that we should start a ministry together, I agreed and we started working on.
The ministry is starting today and my wife is insisting that I should not go that if I go she will divorce me. She even called the man we are to start the ministry together and threatened him
Please what should I do? Help me.
Should I go ahead?

If it is God that indeed called you, If your wife leaves, she will surely come back.
Already, hell is threatened by you call to ministry.

BennyDGreat:
If you have not got solid proofs from God to start a ministry, discontinue talks with the other man. Also, it's not adviceable to start something without support from your spouse. You guyz are one and such a delicate decision must be jointly made. You must talk to her and ask her why she doesn't want to support your 'call'. Get advice from elders. Your home is important to God. Shalom!

Pray with a Christian that sees messages and confirm God's calling

ebenice:
if u are truelly born again like u claim..then you will go to the one who rebirth you and ask Him to prove to you

you are begining to doubt the bible? noo bro, you are suppose to lose religion, to get more spiritual, pray more than you meditate,(doubt) ask the HOLY SPIRIT to reveal things to you( the deep things) you will be amazed at how much you will know

shalom

U still didnt answer me. This is so wrong. Answer my questions and u are sending me to spirit. Am sure u hvnt seen holyspirit b4. catholics wrote the Bible and truncate many information which i hv enquired of from them. Do u feel any spirit wrote Bible. Bros u need read things with understanding not with stupidity. We all embraced things like we were there when it was written. Now you know d Bible more than d Bible itself even more than ppl that wrote it. I grew up from Sunday school to adult church yet the holyspirit spirit all of my fellows dey pretend to feel during prayer never befall me or other ppl only sm stupid ppl will be falling and claiming anointing is falling them

ebenice:
if u are truelly born again like u claim..then you will go to the one who rebirth you and ask Him to prove to you

you are begining to doubt the bible? noo bro, you are suppose to lose religion, to get more spiritual, pray more than you meditate,(doubt) ask the HOLY SPIRIT to reveal things to you( the deep things) you will be amazed at how much you will know

shalom

U know why u are a dimwit. I said though I am a born Christian. I didn't say I am a born again.
This is why I don't like argument with dimwitted fellow

Evince:


U still didnt answer me. This is so wrong. Answer my questions and u are sending me to spirit. Am sure u hvnt seen holyspirit b4. catholics wrote the Bible and truncate many information which i hv enquired of from them. Do u feel any spirit wrote Bible. Bros u need read things with understanding not with stupidity. We all embraced things like we were there when it was written. Now you know d Bible more than d Bible itself even more than ppl that wrote it. I grew up from Sunday school to adult church yet the holyspirit spirit all of my fellows dey pretend to feel during prayer never befall me or other ppl only sm stupid ppl will be falling and claiming anointing is falling them

bros i wish i can give u my house address to come see for yourself

i experinced the HOLY SPIRIT.. i just didnt swallow everything hook line and sinker..i EXPERINCED it myself, and that was how i got it..thru prayers and supplications make your request known ..simple and short

no man will do it for you..paul did it for those barians christians..yet the barian christians still go check for themselves if what paul said was so...no one can do it better...go ask The Holy Spirit yourself..its not hard like you think just dedicate a set time and season for the encounter..it will come. trust me

Evince:


U know why u are a dimwit. I said though I am a born Christian. I didn't say I am a born again.
This is why I don't like argument with dimwitted fellow

have a nice day

AntiWailer:


And start the ministry as a divorcee ?

His wife should be supportive. Divorce should have never being a reason in the first place.

Nedfed:


This man must be a Nigeria police man
The same way u people killed Peace Corps by stating to much of uniform works and duplication. Make God forgive u people with ur negative comment.
Who knows maybe this man is the future Joseph Ayo Babalola or Orimolade of the blessed memory.

@Op if trully u av the call I'll strongly advise u leave her and go ahead cos God is bigger than a man.

Orimolade koor, idimolawo nii

Evince:


The voice that called u, abeg how did it sound. We want to know if it is actually God's voice.

One Bible with one teaching, too many ministries with different doctrines.

Am beginning to rethink that all this shit called Christianity is a farce scripted by some confused Romans who needs mark of supremacy and dominance from humanity.

Though I am a born Christian but all the incompleteness of the entire story is full of confusion.

Now God created Adam and Eve, they gave birth to Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel , God decided to banish Cain and he pleaded that he does not let his enemies to harm him.
Now God placed a mark on him and cursed any one that tried to strife with him.

My puzzle and humble question is who is Cain's enemy. the land he was banished to, who founded and who born the ppl dwelling there. Cain got married to who?
Because the last time I checked, Seth was born as the 3rd child to Adam and Eve.

We know the Noah story also. Only one of his sons took a wife b4 the destruction of the world with water.
Ham was cursed and they claimed he is father of Blacks. My question is who did Ham marry to reproduce.

I can say I study my bible so someone should help me to fill the blank spaces in Bible

How can you rethink when you were not one before?


Some of the lies you guys tell..

When Christ says the Carnal mind can never understand spiritual things. He knew what he was saying.

realmindz:
she's evil, kill her

Deuteronomy 6 vs 10


If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people.
Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the LORD your God,

What the hell did you just post you retard? That's not deut 6 vs 10

obataokenwa:
Bro, in the dealings of God, you dont let anything stand in your way even your children. Face God and watch her make a U-turn if the result starts coming. First among all, go to God in prayers and remember what the bible said that its ur own household that will disturb. Ur biggest regret is when you start listening and following the steps of your wife than choosing the way of God

true talk , when u came to this world , u did not come with your wife , when u will face your creator you are not going to face him with your wife , even Adam that gave excuse that it was the wife that decieve him was not spared from punishment , call from God is a personal thing , such thing happened in anambra state where a wife repented and was preaching every where, the husband was just a church goer but not a born again , the husband told her to stop which she refused then the husband called her people and before them ask her choose between your marriage and carrying bible around , she after much persuasion and thinking choose her marriage and everything was settled after some while after denying jesus she took ill no medication seems to work on her eventually she died , during her burial her christian brethren came and was praying the fire of God touched the husband and he repented at the burial, but do u know one funny thing the husband with his son is moving around from morning till night every where in their town preaching that same gospel while the wife have died denying Jesus which u know her end. If people ask the man why he stopped the wife and yet is still doing the same thing , the man will say that the wife's repentance was not total that his own that he is ready to die because of the gospel , he can even argue with u from morning till night, another one in rev umah okpais crusade he made an alter call , a lady with her boyfriend friend that stood near the road to the place where the crusade was happening , the guy wanted to go for the alter calling but the lady held him saying no are u going to leave me , later she suggested that they cross over to the other side of the road immediately the boy wanted to cross vehicle from nowhere knocked him down and he died on the spot , surprisingly do u know what the lady did , she ran back to the crusade and ran to the alter call after deceiving the guy to his death and hellfire , a word is enough for the wise . thanks

kenturkish:
What the hell did you just post you retard? That's not deut 6 vs 10

Deut 13 vs 6-10...apologies

so you brought your calling which is between you and God here... to seek advice from people online even people that are not born again, blood washed, sanctified will be advising you and speak anyhow about God's call upon your life.
if God actually call you sir... He knows how to give you directions about it.
note this... there is calling and separation. has God spoken to you to leave your present church? in fact are you a pastor in your present church... you will start by either teaching sunday school classes or other works in His vineyard because ministerial work is not what you jump into because you got a calling from God.

I'll like you to seek advice from your spiritual fathers and get their blessings before leaving but make sure it's God that instruct you start your own church.

Don't forget... there is calling and after that separation.

on the issue of your wife put it in prayer... you can't divorce your wife because if you can't even manage your house how can you pastor other people.

may the Lord help you sir!
I hope this helps a little.
Yours in Christ.

You are either a female or an evil man. What did that lady wrote that made you attacked in that way. By the way, I saw her pics and she is pretty.

Every body always have right to his/her opinion.

Be warned

Rubbiish:

Shut up if u got nothing reasonable say...
Carry face like fowl...

You said God called you yet you try to paint a bad picture of your wife. I don't it's the God of heaven that called you