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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:11pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


The basis for any call up should be outstanding performance in your club and league particularly if it's a backwater league.

Or in the alternative good quality in a more competitive quality league.

From that base line you invite players you play friendlies and then you select. How many players of Nigerian origin are playing regularly for top teams in a top league That's your first Base line.

If that does not suffice you look at league that are good quality or second tier to the very best leagues.

When KC was scoring regularly at Man city, there was nothing to test, his performances selected him. However, football is not static you must keep being competitive if not you can be dropped for the in form players.

You create competition to select the best. You do not rely on past glories, biased recommendations based on gain by agents,

you have a team that top there qualifier that has algeria, Cameroon and zambia, a team that only lost once, you think Martins will be happy to be on the bench if invited or you want a player to disorganise what Rohr has been building all this while.

During Keshi tenure he played close to 100 different players, 50% of players that played the confederations cup never made the worldcup team proper, players were making there debut in the worldcup proper, you dont expect to win the worldcup like that.

The 1994 WC team did well because they all know them self, they failed together before, they all know there strength and weakness.

Let us support this team and stop calling for changes everywhere when is not needed

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:13pm On Mar 25, 2018
andrew444:


Sir komekn so the both nwakalis be invited?

I have never asked for any of them to be invited they simple have not shown enough quality. I actually was bewildered how Chidiebere Nwakali got invited to the SE when there more experienced and qualified players.

Essentially they are considered on past youthful glories in age grade competitions.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naijaphobia(m): 4:13pm On Mar 25, 2018
Up Super Eagles! I can die for both S. Eagles and Arsenal. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naijaphobia(m): 4:14pm On Mar 25, 2018
English fans travelling to Russia should just sign their death warrants cos a replica of what they did in Amsterdam would not be tolerated.

What is their problem sef! Football them no sabi play na only hooliganism.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:14pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


That was my first reaction to Efe Ambrose he is finished.

But as it stands right now he is the stand out defender in the Scottish premiership league. It's a lowly league but he is standing out and that means he has improved.

Furthermore, you may disbelieve me but I know at least one EPL club that wanted him and quite a few Championship clubs too. However, work permit issues have restricted him.

Can you say conclusivey that Balogun and Omeruo are better if you wish to be honest. Unless you want to rely on old performances.

So Ambrose is better than Balogun and Omeruo?
are you trying to be funny?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:18pm On Mar 25, 2018
Martz101:


you have a team that top there qualifier that has algeria, Cameroon and zambia, a team that only lost once, you think Martins will be happy to be on the bench if invited or you want a player to disorganise what Rohr has been building all this while.

During Keshi tenure he played close to 100 different players, 50% of players that played the confederations cup never made the worldcup team proper, players were making there debut in the worldcup proper, you dont expect to win the worldcup like that.

The 1994 WC team did well because they all know them self, they failed together before, they all know there strength and weakness.

Let us support this team and stop calling for changes everywhere when is not needed

Don't make assumption about personality unless you know players. And it's not as simplistic as you put it team cohesion and fusion is still about quality not personality.

The Ego of Nigerian players in the past leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Even when they play in the same club you will be shocked. But I will not mention names.

If quality and performance is the only consideration nobody will complain.

Do you think KC is better than him. Honestly speaking and why
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:20pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


That was my first reaction to Efe Ambrose he is finished.

But as it stands right now he is the stand out defender in the Scottish premiership league. It's a lowly league but he is standing out and that means he has improved.

Furthermore, you may disbelieve me but I know at least one EPL club that wanted him and quite a few Championship clubs too. However, work permit issues have restricted him.

Can you say conclusivey that Balogun and Omeruo are better if you wish to be honest. Unless you want to rely on old performances.

Apart from work permit issues you forgot age related issues. Are you looking forward or backwards? Are you a confusionist in disguise? Or a paid poster?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:22pm On Mar 25, 2018
Martz101:


So Ambrose is better than Balogun and Omeruo?
are you trying to be funny?

I cant say conclusivey but I will say unless they are tested you will not know.

One thing I can say Omeruo will struggle to get a club in the English Championship something Efe will not have to do. So can we say all those heads of recruitment, club analysts and managers are blind.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:22pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


Don't make assumption about personality unless you know players. And it's not as simplistic as you put it team cohesion and fusion is still about quality not personality.

The Ego of Nigerian players in the past leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Even when they play in the same club you will be shocked. But I will not mention names.

If quality and performance is the only consideration nobody will complain.

Do you think KC is better than him. Honestly speaking and why

so that quality we need will come from aluko, hope and martins, I'm tired of flogging this issue over and over again
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:24pm On Mar 25, 2018
Mujtahida:

Is Iorfa a Nigerian?

No he is from Brazil

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:26pm On Mar 25, 2018
Mujtahida:

I have settled it in my mind that he is not a SE fan. Forgiveness just has his own idiosyncrasies but he is still a fan. Oga Borough is not a SE fan. He is a fan of English bred players.

Obagoal, Efe Ambrose, are English born and bred.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:26pm On Mar 25, 2018
isan:
The flying eagle have landed Egypt today to play double header friendly on monday Wednesday both against egypt

Disgraceful, flying eagles team full of old men

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:27pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


I cant say conclusivey but I will say unless they are tested you will not know.

One thing I can say Omeruo will struggle to get a club in the English Championship something Efe will not have to do. So can we say all those heads of recruitment, club analysts and managers are blind.

Omeruo played for middlesbrough, he was in the team that got them back to the premiership, the Turkish league is way better than championship.

Omeruo still have some good years ahead of him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:28pm On Mar 25, 2018
tbaba1234:
Enyeama played and kept a clean sheet today.

Woweee!!!

I'm out of touch

Plzzzzzzzzz where? When?? Which league Which club❓

Breaking NEWS we now have greater hope.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:30pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


Woweee!!!

I'm out of touch

Plzzzzzzzzz where? When?? Which league Which club❓

Breaking NEWS we now have greater hope.

In the lower tiers of french league for the B side of Lille.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:38pm On Mar 25, 2018
Humility017:


Lol...he rarely watch matches don't be surprised he has little idea of the players currently in the super eagles camp....all he cares about is to call for the inclusion o English kids....in the super eagles set up.
I was so angry this evening when he does not even know who is Gabriel and he will boldly start questioning his invitation sayn one of the borough player is better off...

someone he has not even watch play.



Humility017:

I don't really see aluko as assist king...
but nwakali is someone who has got the potentials...he should be invited to come train wit the team

Humility017:


I do much agree with the bolded...
that lad ought to be the one making the cut instead of oshimen...

What makes you and those clamouring for Kelechi Nwakali who is in the second division of Eredivise different from Komekn who is clamouring for players in the Championship?

Is Eredivise 2nd division better than the Championship or the Belgium pro league where Onyekuru dey shine?

If I call Abdul Ajagun, some people go say I be Omoluabi blah blah and some go say their belle dey turn dem because of the name without even considering the performance of the said player but the same set of peps here will begin to call Kelechi Nwakali who is currently in in the 2nd division of Eredivise after he couldn't cope with the Eredivise itself.

Now, you are claiming that Kelechi Nwakali who is in 2nd division league in Netherlands a potential assist king ahead of Sone Aluko who is playing regularly and given assists in the Championship.

Komekn is better than most us here who I think are hypocrites.

I can tell you that those two names he mentioned are very good players. To have played for Tottenham and Liverpool is not moi moi. Abeg, spare the guy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:41pm On Mar 25, 2018
Martz101:


Omeruo played for middlesbrough, he was in the team that got them back to the premiership, the Turkish league is way better than championship.

Omeruo still have some good years ahead of him

Substantiate your position not just with emotive preference.

The same league our Core midfielder is praying to come too. Onazi would have been in Birmingham if not for work permit issues. He was ready to dump the supposed top quality of the Turkish league for the competitive grit and physicality of the championship.

The same league that Omeruo couldn't hack it and left for an easier ride in Turkey.

I would concede that the Turkish league is more technical (pretty football) on average but I would say the Championship is more competitive, physical and definitely faster than the Turkish league.

That's why when you want an easy life when you get to the latter stages of your career you shift to Turkey also great tax regime. Hopefully you willl get paid notorious for owing players wages.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:45pm On Mar 25, 2018
tbaba1234:


In the lower tiers of french league for the B side of Lille.

So essentially he is competing for the first goalkeeper position. Not easy if the Manager is not on your side, but it's saying that he must be fit and getting back to sharpness.

GREAT NEWS
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pyrex23(m): 4:46pm On Mar 25, 2018
tbaba1234:


On what grounds should he be invited to the senior team??
not saying he should be invited...last i heard from him was at chan just wanted an update on the guy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:46pm On Mar 25, 2018
Truidstar:
its obvious some of us now know better than the technical crew. Our job is to support the team and trust Rohrs Judgement. We know where we are coming from and where we are presently, yet we still complain.

I would agree with that unreservedly.

Even if some may think thats conceited on my part.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:48pm On Mar 25, 2018
pyrex23:
not saying he should be invited...last i heard from him was at chan just wanted an update on the guy

Alright, i do not know.. Last i read that he might be moving to Europe soon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:48pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


Substantiate your position not just with emotive preference.

The same league our Core midfielder is praying to come too. Onazi would have been in Birmingham if not for work permit issues. He was ready to dump the supposed top quality of the Turkish league for the competitive grit and physicality of the championship.

The same league that Omeruo couldn't hack it and left for an easier ride in Turkey.

I would concede that the Turkish league is more technical (pretty football) on average but I would say the Championship is more competitive, physical and definitely faster than the Turkish league.

That's why when you want an easy life when you get to the latter stages of your career you shift to Turkey also great tax regime. Hopefully you willl get paid notorious for owing players wages.
sometimes the most physical might not necessarily be the best..could a riquelme play on the premiership? I seriously doubt
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 4:49pm On Mar 25, 2018
forgiveness:







What makes you and those clamouring for Kelechi Nwakali who is in the second division of Eredivise different from Komekn who is clamouring for players in the Championship?

Is Eredivise 2nd division better than the Championship or the Belgium pro league where Onyekuru dey shine?

If I call Abdul Ajagun, some people go say I be Omoluabi blah blah and some go say their belle dey turn dem because of the name without even considering the performance of the said player but the same set of peps here will begin to call Kelechi Nwakali who is currently in in the 2nd division of Eredivise after he couldn't cope with the Eredivise itself.

Now, you are claiming that Kelechi Nwakali who is in 2nd division league in Netherlands a potential assist king ahead of Sone Aluko who is playing regularly and given assists in the Championship.

Komekn is better than most us here who I think are hypocrites.

I can tell you that those two names he mentioned are very good players. To have played for Tottenham and Liverpool is not moi moi. Abeg, spare the guy.
Well said. Some of the people calling him a "hypocrite" are the ones that will criticize you simply because you're not being "positive" enough.
Patriotism doesn't equate lack of objectivity.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by KevinDein: 4:53pm On Mar 25, 2018
andrew444:


If e choose to play for england say england go give am call up? During the time aluko choose to play for nigeria he can never be called up by the english team so stop giving excuse,I have notice one thing about you,you only support yoruba players and you cry foul when they are not invited.

Even agbonlahor wey choose england which big club e don play for? you dey say if aluko choose to play for england e for dey big club? All those average premier league team no see am buy? You don comot for seyi ojo matter abi? Now na Aluko? I dey wait for your next player,maybe na rabiu ibrahim you go call next,You no even call player like samuel kalu wey dey on fire na aluko you dey call make dem invite,your matter tire me oo bros

Victor moses wey choose to play for nigeria,i guess say na small club him dey....Jordan Ibe wey choose to play for england na Big club him dey ooo Bournemouth na Big club.
Oooops

You just countered his post with irrefutable facts. Well written in pidgin English. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:54pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


No he is from Brazil

Hahahahahah! You dey mind dat guy. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by olu98: 5:01pm On Mar 25, 2018
I think Doherty is d 1 using komekn's moniker.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 5:01pm On Mar 25, 2018
Five I repeat 5 NPFL clubs are currently winning away from home at ht
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 5:08pm On Mar 25, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Five I repeat 5 NPFL clubs are currently winning away from home at ht
give it time
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 5:09pm On Mar 25, 2018
forgiveness:







What makes you and those clamouring for Kelechi Nwakali who is in the second division of Eredivise different from Komekn who is clamouring for players in the Championship?

Is Eredivise 2nd division better than the Championship or the Belgium pro league where Onyekuru dey shine?

If I call Abdul Ajagun, some people go say I be Omoluabi blah blah and some go say their belle dey turn dem because of the name without even considering the performance of the said player but the same set of peps here will begin to call Kelechi Nwakali who is currently in in the 2nd division of Eredivise after he couldn't cope with the Eredivise itself.

Now, you are claiming that Kelechi Nwakali who is in 2nd division league in Netherlands a potential assist king ahead of Sone Aluko who is playing regularly and given assists in the Championship.

Komekn is better than most us here who I think are hypocrites.

I can tell you that those two names he mentioned are very good players. To have played for Tottenham and Liverpool is not moi moi. Abeg, spare the guy.

had it been kelechi have a British passport probably he would have been in championship playing.

and relating to kelechi nwakali invitation...that should be after the world cup because I see him as one who will eventually take over from mikel....I even told safarigirl the possibility of onomah stepping in should him accept play fr nigeria.

mind you if nwakali gets invited now...I don't mind...but I don't think that is possible.

if you've have a problem with that...that's shouldn't be my concern......you can keep chanting for Abdul ajagun, Martins and aluko invitation....but i am free to state my view...and I have reasons to back it up....


the difference between me...and you and also your British mate...is that even when the player I craved for is never invited I don't blame anyone for that...not even the coach, I don't go blame the nff politics or call the super eagles a cult group...
i support the team regardless of who gets invited....I get to know about players...prior i start call for reason for their invitation...and lots more...

so I am not an hypocrite...
if you must define who an hypocrite is...you will know better from the bolded.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ykalhaji(m): 5:14pm On Mar 25, 2018
Abeg guys enough of the back and forth, it is already degenerating to tribal accusations.

The truth is there is no more friendlies after the Serbia game before the world cup lists comes out, so Rohr already has his pool of eligible players he is going to pick from, there will be no new invites, if there is no outstanding player in tuesdays game and baring no major injury, Rohr already has his 23 players already.

So let's discuss about the players in the pool, after the world cup we can continue the debate about Aluko, Nwakali and co.

Any news about the boys & training on going in England ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 5:14pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


Obagoal, Efe Ambrose, are English born and bred.
you are trying to save your face....
how I wish these were the only players...you were beratin other invited players for...
please face the music...be truthful....


so sorry if my words sounds harsh...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 5:17pm On Mar 25, 2018
komekn:


Substantiate your position not just with emotive preference.

The same league our Core midfielder is praying to come too. Onazi would have been in Birmingham if not for work permit issues. He was ready to dump the supposed top quality of the Turkish league for the competitive grit and physicality of the championship.

The same league that Omeruo couldn't hack it and left for an easier ride in Turkey.

I would concede that the Turkish league is more technical (pretty football) on average but I would say the Championship is more competitive, physical and definitely faster than the Turkish league.

That's why when you want an easy life when you get to the latter stages of your career you shift to Turkey also great tax regime. Hopefully you willl get paid notorious for owing players wages.

If you think championship is better than Turkish league then I don't think I can continue this argument, Omeruo plays against players like pepe, quaresma, robihno,gomis and turan etc

Onazi wanted to move to Birmingham because of some factors which might not be footballing factor and as for Omeruo I dont see how he failed in Middlesbrough after making 33 appearances and helping them to promotion

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