Obi1kenobi:


Yes. Ogun state has better infrastructure than Anambra. Better bridges, flyovers, tunnels (I'll admit Ogun's roads are generally poor), the best cluster of private tertiary institutions, sprawling estates in the border towns catering to many that do business in Lagos or the state's own industrial clusters or even the huge private estates that churches like Redeemed or Winners ownd. Ogun IS backward, but it's less backward than the state you like disturbing us about where many people who hustle in Onitsha live in Asaba. I think every state in Nigeria, including Lagos, is a mess, so maybe stop beating your chest over your poor, chaotic, polluted state and accept everyone can do much, much, much better.

post=66197336:

Ogun is very backward and disorganized state, Anambra is far better than Ogun in all ramifications

Igboid:

Yes. Short on industries. The Agbara industrial cluster alone probably has more industrial output than the whole SE combined. That you would argue about agriculture is asinine beyond belief. The SE is easily the least agrarian zone in the country by far seeing as the SE is the most densely clustered, hyper-urbanized zone in the country. What does Nigeria's importation of food have to do with the fact the SE produces the least of the food that Nigeria does produce?Why do many of you deluded chest-beating comedians love to live in denial of what anyone with eyes and a brain can easily discern?

Agbara is mostly a multinational corporations base. It's only relevant as long as Nigeria continues to exist as a single entity, as in case of Nigeria disintegration, each of the emerging sovereign nations would have their own Agbara and not allow multinational companies dump goods produced in Agbara(Odua nation) on them.

The multinationals would have to down size in Agbara and out source departments to establish presence in new emerging countries.
With resultant effect of reduction of employment opportunities and tax based income for odua.

In truth, the true parasites are those who currently benefit from the current status quo of Nigeria, and would have it continue. With advantages being the gateway to the most populous black nation, but yet are still down the sustainable index stats, they stand alot to lose from Nigeria disintegration.

On agriculture, I would refer you to this:https://www.nairaland.com/2522113/omitted-truth-debunking-lies...nigeria-states

Nigeria as a whole import food, so it's plain malicious singling SE out. Most of the local food we eat in SE are produced by local SE farmers, SE can feed herself, and argument the shortfall with importation, like Nigeria is currently doing.

Why exactly do Yorubas like you revel in claiming to be from SE so that you can talk trash about the zone? You think we are stupid not to see through your dubious antics of hunting with the wolves and running with the deers?

Obi1kenobi:


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Obi1kenobi:


Parasite - an organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.

Your own definitions about so-called "sustainability" doesn't square with reality. For starters, that sustainability depends on deriving income you never earned. If you suddenly cut off the N40billion or so Anambra for example is receiving from Abuja, the state goes under from losing over 70% of its revenue. The SE is clinging as much to Nigeria as any other region in action even if not in words. Words are just false bravado from internet chest-beaters and braggarts. The real stakeholders know what they gain from the union. There is no governor in the SE who even cares about the so-called restructuring, nevermind secession. Umahi for example is vehemently opposed to restructuring. No surprises when his state generates just over N5 billion in IGR, but gets N35billion from Abuja.

You cannot be calling other people parasites when your region depends on Niger-Delta oyel. I don't know why many of you persist in this self-deception.

SouthEastFacts:

IGR is nothing but tax. Government increases tax when it is going broke and it undermines the masses. The new Lagos land use charge is an increment of about 400% from the old one, this will make Lagos IGR to increase at the expense of the welfare of the citizens. It is not development. It is wickedness.

Obi1kenobi:


A lot of conjecture there. West Africa is a free trade zone. Agbara's products are distributed all across the region. It's delusional to believe your restrictionist policies could stop their products circulating in the SE. For starters, Unilever or UAC or Nestle or Cadbury or P&G or whoever won't suddenly just pack up their factories to the SE. There are several countries in West Africa where they don't manufacture, but merely distribute goods. Don't expect companies to start running to the SE in the event of such a disintegration.

I din't single out the SE in its low food production. Food security is a general problem in Nigeria. I stated the evident fact that the SE produces less in agriculture than any other region. Ebonyi is the most agrarian of the SE states, yet they probably wouldn't make the top 10 states in food production in Nigeria. Most of the beans and even rice (despite Ebonyi's best efforts) and yams and tomatoes and onions and pepper and beef you eat in the SE is not locally grown. That's a blatant falsehood. The SE along with the SS account for the lowest food production in the country. That is a fact.

I don't need to pretend to be Igbo to talk "thrash" about the zone. I'd be even more comfortable doing it as a Yoruba. I do it despite my discomfort because the chest-beating of many of you embarrasses me greatly. I feel obliged to repeat yet again that I couldn't care less where you think I'm from. I do not engage in petty tribal stewpidity and only those who do imagine anyone has the time to impersonate other groups.

Cooly100:


Mister, do you even know what is equity...?

Most of these states have federal investments whicg attracts other investments to them.

While SE states have done well in terms of sustainability, you should add big investment from FG as a factor in as well.

"... there is virtually no federal establshment to provide jobs for the teeming youths of the zone.
The only federal presence in the zone are prisons and abandoned grain silos,” Ohaneze

https://www.nairaland.com/4415725/no-federal-industrial-presence-igbo

Ovamboland:


What did the FG establish in Ogun state that it didn't do in the SE states?

kutchs:

Your post here shows you don't even know what you are talking about. Using IGR as a basis for tagging the SE parasitic shows you are intelligent.
IGRs are generated internally and spent internally without a kobo of it getting into the federation account to be shared.
Lagos doesn't share it's IGRs with other state neither do Ogun, Rivers, Imo or Kano.
Parasitic should only apply to what a state or region contributes to the centre which gets shared to all states.

post=66198835:

Anambra is far better than Ogun fact

0monnak0da:
Agriculture does not contribute up tt 45% of GDP it is more like 15 .



The problem is agriculture contributes nothng in taxes to public finance and in fact consumes subsidy from the more productive in tax terms oil sextor and VAT

Ovamboland:


Okay tell us what SE contributes to the federation account that makes it better than NE, NW or NC

Ovamboland:


Contribution of agricultural to GDP is very high IOK think up to 40%, but as you rightly observed it contributes almost nothing to public finances.

The government in agricultural states have their job clearly cut out but are too lazy and unimaginative, due to free oil money.

They stand to make much more than from oil if they invest in educating and training their farmers

Igboid:


The reality is that SE dependency on the Nigerian federation is minimal as we earn less from the federation than anyone else.
The last time Nigeria suffered recession and allocations from the FG dwindled, we know it wasn't SE that suffered most in the federation from declining revenues, despite IGR figures some people keep parrying about, it was their regions that suffered more and currently are most indebted.

The south East has a very robust informal sector, and can easily weather the storm of loss of FG revenue, as long as we gain 100% full control of the income coming from Imo state and Abia State crude oil exports and not just the derivation value.

Umahi and co(Igbo politicians) are opposed to restructuring or distingeration because they want to hold unto the current personal gains they make from Nigeria current failed systems where they can make 30million monthly as senators and earn fat benefits and pension as past governors, and not because they care about the welfare of the Igbo masses.

SE, the masses, and not the corrupt political class want out of the federation, the masses from other regions of the country, don't want the same.

Igboid:


SE independent country would not allow itself to be dumping ground for goods produced in Odua (Agbara) ,not when we have the human resources.
Companies who wouldn't comply would be subtly ran out of the country, while many eager companies, be they Indian or Chinese would happily take their place.
No company would be forced to pack to the SE.

Either way, Agbara would lose its SE market and with its attendant job cut and revenue loss.
This is the truth.

You keep reeling out stats out of thin air.

I had provided a link to a thread that debunked your SE not producing enough food lies, but your Yoruboid mentality would not allow you yield to facts.

SE produce enough food to sustain her, she doesn't need Nigeria,especially when Nigeria herself depends on food importation for most of her staple food crops,and we have stats to back this up.

On rice production, we produce rice in Ebonyi, Anambra, and Enugu.
We don't source our local rice from outside SE.
I currently eat Anambra rice, a bought a bag in Christmas, and it's still remaining.
There is Abakaliki and Adada /Ugbawka Rice as well.

SE is sufficient in local production and augument shortfalls with foreign rice.

Obi1kenobi:


[s]Says who? How much where you expecting to earn before? The SE earns less than others because it has the smallest population and by far the smallest landmass. On average, the SE states earn similar to the non-oil producing states with few exceptions like the Kano thieves who manipulated the process to earn themselves a bigger slice.
I don't know why you keep mentioning Imo and Abia's oil revenues. It's insignificant. Both states received about N38billion from FG allocation - less than non-oil producing Anambra who got 40 billion - while a state like Bayelsa was getting over 105 billion. Ondo state which is a minor oil player produces more oil than Abia and Imo combined. Abia and Imo gain more from the oil produced by other ND states than they gain from their own.

Igbo politicians are opposed to restructuring because they know their budgets depend on Niger Delta oyel. The so-called masses (to be honest, you IPOBians overestimate your following - hardly anyone I know in my whole extended family support the agitations) demand different because they are ruled by emotion and false bravado rather than objective reality. That is why you see an okada rider or keke driver carrying Biafra flag about while hustling in Lagos without shame. Can't even practise what they preach.[/s]

post=66200154:

What is oil production output from Ondo state let start from there

Obi1kenobi:

post=66199277:


Oil and Gas, Imo, Abia and Anambra

Agriculture: Ebonyi, Anambra and Enugu these are commercial agro states

Import/Export duty tax
40 percent, about 45 percent of the cargoes that come to Nigeria end up in the south eastern markets-Boss Mustapha NIM Boss
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/11/billions-spent-dredging-river-niger-havent-yielded-no-fruits-boss-mustapha/

Commerce and industries : Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi are leading commercial, and industrial cities the also pay huge taxes to FG

Aviation industries southeast airports Enugu airport, Imo airport are topping

Movie industry, Southeast control Nigeria movie industry

Transportation companies southeast are leading

aribisala0:
Citation please?


It is not up to 40% that is nonsense. You will see figuress ranging from 15-20 but nothing like 40%

post=66200524:


Anambra is one leading rice producing states in Nigeria, can you mention one state in west that produces rice more than Anambra

aribisala0:


No let us start from SE

Stop bluffing
what is oil production there

You are the one banging on about oil and gas from the SE.


Even wthout the figures we can guess from the size of allocation that it is no biggie .

Ovamboland:


You're right it has dropped to around 20% since re basing in 2014 and the huge rise of the services sector

aribisala0:
Onitsha market stuff

HOW MUCH rice did Anambra produce in 2017,2016 2015

This is not an OMATA meeting

Facts and dfigures please

post=66200723:

I can see you are dumb

post=66200685:

You said Ondo produce more oil than Abia and Imo combine, I what to know what Ilaje oil fields production capacity