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Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by iamwhat: 6:56am On Mar 27, 2018 |
darkchild64: You are correct, They are two distinct personalities but act in unison. This is one among Jesus' words: You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I. John 14:28 NKJV *modified 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Nobody: 7:59am On Mar 27, 2018 |
iamwhat: if Jesus and Jehovah are separate entities then that means that Christians are not monotheists considering the fact that they worship Jesus and Jehovah who are two different beings |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by CuteMadridista: 8:13am On Mar 27, 2018 |
darkchild64:Christians already believe in at least 2 gods, Yahweh and Jesus. Then they use the well-acknowledged nonsense of the trinity to proclaim that they are together one god because monotheism has a bigger dick than polytheism or something. (The holy spirit is some sort of mysterious brain virus / hatchet-man that keeps you indoctrinated and resistant of reality.) Theologians even often acknowledge that if you claim that you understand the trinity, then you don't understand the trinity. And that's because it doesn't make any god damned sense. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by iamwhat: 9:29am On Mar 27, 2018 |
darkchild64: Genesis 1:1 says that “God created the heavens and the earth.” Then, Colossians 1:16 gives the added detail that God created “all things” through Jesus Christ. The plain teaching of Scripture, therefore, is that Jesus is the Creator of the universe. The mystery of God unification is difficult to understand yet is one of the doctrines revealed in Scripture. In the Bible, both God the Father and Jesus are called Shepherd, Judge, and Savior. Christ is the exact representation of God the Father, having the same nature (Hebrews 1:3). There are some sense in which everything the Father does, the Son do, and vice versa. They are always in perfect agreement at every moment, (Deuteronomy 6:4). Knowing that Christ is God and has all the attributes of God aids our understanding of Jesus as the Creator. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1). There are three important things in this passage about Jesus and the Father: 1) Jesus was “in the beginning”—He was present at creation. Jesus had existed eternally with God. 2) Jesus is distinct from the Father—He was “with” God. 3) Jesus is the same as God in nature—He “Is God.” Hebrews 1:2 says, “In these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.” Christ is the agent of God’s creation; the world was created “through” Him. The Father and the Son had two distinct functions in creation yet worked together to bring about the cosmos. John says, “All things were made through [Jesus], and without [Jesus] was not anything made that was made” (John 1:3). The apostle Paul reiterates: “There is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live” (1 Corinthians 8:6). Ref: GotQuestion The bottom line is that our logic is limited to our knowledge; A logician can never make sense of the unification between Jesus and Jehovah as one God. Jehovah is God; Jesus is God; Jesus = God = Jehovah "IS" in this context is not transitive as Jehovah is not Jesus; This conclusion is not logical that's why logicians can never make sense out of the relationship between Jesus and Jehovah. God beats all logical reasoning..... 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by sonofthunder: 9:41am On Mar 27, 2018 |
nice job op, though I hope you can see through all their pretense to your explanations... they will keep twisting your words to either get you angry or lead you to a pit but I'm sure all such will fail. carry on brother. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by salame(m): 11:39am On Mar 27, 2018 |
give me a good reason to dump atheism for your religion and not any other religion 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by GoodMuyis(m): 11:22pm On Mar 27, 2018 |
God increases your blessed brain, as you answer with maturity. I can see some are getting angry with straight forward answer. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by GoodMuyis(m): 11:24pm On Mar 27, 2018 |
salame: LOVES AND DIED FOR YOU Are you angry 1 Like
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Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by kingtinnie(m): 12:10am On Mar 28, 2018 |
You say God is the all knowing one How is it he didn’t know putting the supposedly forbidden within the reach of eve and Adam will cause with it ended up causing Why did he not foresee the serpent manipulations You say he is the omnipresent...where was he the serpent was toasting eve You say he is merciful and forgiving....why is he finding it difficult to forgive the best of his creations ?? |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by iamwhat: 1:35am On Mar 28, 2018 |
kingtinnie: God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden to give Adam and Eve a choice to obey Him or disobey Him. Adam and Eve were free to do anything they wanted, except eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Genesis 2:16-17. In order for Adam and Eve to truly be free, they had to have a choice; not just a single choice but many other choices to enhance their adaptability to the environment. Someone referred to God as a tyrant or dictator on the first page which is the exact opposite of God. God always leaves us with choices, although He makes known to us what's good and bad, however He never compels or enforces anything on us. God created Adam and Eve with the capacity to choose to love God and walk in His good ways. That would be absolutely pointless if they were never presented with an opportunity to make a choice of any kind! Man would have been like robots, even scientists here on earth are not pleased with how robots work as they cannot make rational decisions outside the installed algorithms. God created Man and Man was supposed to continue the creation work without God and you think Man should not be presented a free will to make his own decisions ? I don't think so. The forbidden fruit was just a boundary set by God, it could be forbidden location, forbidden touch, forbidden talk..... even angels in heaven are not spared from boundaries that's why we have fallen angel (Angel that crossed the boundaries). Why did God plant the tree knowing that Adam would fail? This question is one-sided and it shows biasness in your thinking. Adam had a choice, and he chose to sin. The idea that he was "bound to fail the test" is false. Consider the angels - some fell and some did not. Adam had just only one law and he chose to default, is it God's fault ? NO! Why did he not foresee the manipulation? This line of reasoning assumes that foreknowledge necessitates fatalism, and eliminates accountability. Both assumptions are false. Yes, God knew what Adam would choose - but it was Adam who chose. Job was presented with something stricter but he chose not to default, why don't you give credit to God on Job's success since you blame God for Adam's fault ? I wish you were a Christian, I would have guide you to pray for the holy spirit ministration. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by kingtinnie(m): 2:42am On Mar 28, 2018 |
iamwhat: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by efizy08(m): 6:35am On Mar 28, 2018 |
purem:Bruv lemme take it from here, God was the first person to ever in the universe Who is God God is the ruler of the universe who tends to control everything on earth, buh gave we human freewill to be able to make decision on our own, because there would be no point creating us and then controlling us, so we have our own heart to decide whatever we want.... Who is Jesus According to the bible, Jesus was said to be the first creation of GOD ever, JESES IS NOT GOD, Even Jesus in all his word do adore and recognize GOD as the supreme, If not that lucifer disobey GOD he would have been call son of GOD too Hope my little sentence have been kinda helpful |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by dannyyol2018: 7:13am On Mar 28, 2018 |
OP you Are doing a good job. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Amberon11: 8:01am On Mar 28, 2018 |
Shut up! There is ONE GOD. iamwhat: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Amberon11: 8:07am On Mar 28, 2018 |
The bolded is correct. God the father is greater than God the son and all Christians know this. darkchild64: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Amberon11: 8:09am On Mar 28, 2018 |
Yes God will only protect people that do according to his will just as you will only pass a free and fair exam only by studying. If you have nothing else to say you can exit the thread. allenbaker5: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Amberon11: 8:28am On Mar 28, 2018 |
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7 As Christians we are monotheists. We serve one God. darkchild64: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Amberon11: 8:35am On Mar 28, 2018 |
Look at this Antichrist. Jesus is God. Even God Almighty referred to Jesus as God. efizy08: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by CuteMadridista: 9:10am On Mar 28, 2018 |
Amberon11: Bible verses please |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by sonofthunder: 11:40am On Mar 28, 2018 |
CuteMadridista: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by dalaman: 11:47am On Mar 28, 2018 |
iamwhat: So christians are polytheists free all. There are two Gods abi? Nice to know. |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by dalaman: 11:49am On Mar 28, 2018 |
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Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by efizy08(m): 1:38pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Amberon11:Bro Jesus is lord...Lord is Different from God |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Amberon11: 2:01pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Jesus is God. If you dont believe, don't call yourself a Christian. efizy08: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by efizy08(m): 3:32pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Amberon11: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Amberon11: 3:53pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
8 But unto the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:8 That was God the father himself speaking. If you're not satisfied I'll give you more. efizy08: |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Nobody: 6:06pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Amberon11: these three are ONE is different from these three are ONE BEING In the bible Jesus prayed that his disciples would be one,I'm sure you didn't take it to mean one being Besides the bible passage you quoted said these THREE,if Jehovah,Jesus and the holy spirit are ONE BEING how come the bible refers to them as "THESE THREE" p.s the holy trinity is crap that the romans instituted into Christianity,there is not sufficient evidence in the bible to explain that,meanwhile can you remind me what the first commandment is |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Nobody: 6:24pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Op according to the bible in John 3 vs 3 Jesus said that except a man be born again he would not enter the kingdom of heaven Our ancestors were not born again considering that they never heard anything about Christianity, so according to Jesus statement in John 3 vs 3 they can not enter the kingdom of heaven hence they would go to hell DOES THAT SEEM FAIR AND JUST TO YOU ? |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by obinna58(m): 6:52pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
iamwhat:Whats the essence of hell fire and if you're God will you create eternal toture knowing lots of people must go there |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by iamwhat: 7:11pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
darkchild64: For there is no partiality with God. For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them ) Romans 2:11-15 NKJV |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by Nobody: 7:14pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
iamwhat: Make your point,don't just quote the bible did I tell you I have not seen that verse before |
Re: Atheists Can Ask Me Any Question by iamwhat: 8:14pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
obinna58: Let me help you understand your question, your question is: "What's the essence of prison and if you were government would you create punishments knowing that many would err? " Am sure you know the essence of law and you definitely know there won't be punishments without laws ? Do you know Law creates orderliness and law creates punishments as well? Am sure you do. Without law everything would be in disarray that's why you have code of conducts at your workplace to ensure achievements of set goals. Interestingly, punishment is a great motivation to obey laws. Now answer these questions: Did you company know many would err at following the code of conducts ? Do they push workers to err or workers err at their own discretion ? Do they create the laws because they enjoy sacking/punishing worker that errs? Do they leave workers with a choice to err or not ? Are there workers that erred and were sacked ? Do we have workers that stay in the organisation until retirement ? Do Evans (The Kidnapper) had the choice to be free than to currently be in detention ? Can you decide to live the remaining of your life in prison ? Let me help you answer the last question; YES! and it's very easy, in fact you can achieve it NOW! all you need to do is to commit a jail worthy crime and you'll be there in a jiffy; You're currently free because you chose to be free! Just as you chose to be free, you can also choose to make heaven instead of hell.... In conclusion, everyone that goes to hell chose it, do they have the choice to not be there ? DEFINITELY! Is it God's fault that they chose to be there ? NO! 1 Like |
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