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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:15pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Joebie:Definitely it must be sorted out. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by RichardKajola(m): 10:16pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
My observations based on the two friendly Nigeria played badly in both games. We were just lucky against Poland. Lewandowski shot hit the bar, one of their shot actually cross the goal line couple with the fact that the penalty awarded was a dive. Same goes with the match against Serbia, just that in this case we conceded twice but remember they were denied a goal which looked like it had also cross the goal line. However the most disturbing feature of the game was that we created no notable chance. This means that something is wrong with our midfield and attack. Rohr didn't help matters by putting basically three CMF in our second match and Iheanacho was ineffective as AMF in the first match. High press is now a feature in major football teams. The team actually did a little of that against Poland but it was nonexistent against Serbia. Rohr needs to work on that if we are to have any chance beating the best team in the world cup. One thing we should note is that in the world cup we won't be playing against African who respects us and allow us to have most of the ball and that is where the high press system becomes very important. I think we are hyping Mikel a little too much here. Agreed Mikel is a leader in the team, but he is no where the level of Messi. Remember Mikel slows Nigeria down sometimes. Now what's my point? my point is that its possible we could have still lose the match with him involved so his absence should not be the reason why we loss. we should instead look for the fault among the players and coach involved. Again I think Rohr is too conservative and maybe doesn't trust his players. This explains why his substitution doesn't come early. Someone will say you don't change a winning team but this is a friendly. For example in our match against Serbia, though we were playing badly he didn't deem it fit to change anyone or to try to alter the formation or tactics. Most teams actually used two teams for their two different friendly. Meanwhile I think Uzoho is good enough for the no 1 position The pitch used against Serbia was also small and might have affected the players though that is no excuse. In summary I think we are still a work in progress though with our performances this break, I doubt our advancement to the knockout round if we do not up our game. #soarsupereagles 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:16pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Joebie:Hahahaha hahahaha now that's a pun. Good job jobie(pun intended somehow ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:20pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Joebie:Hahahaha hahahaha. You don't proof a suspicion. You proof a fact. You sabi |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:22pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Joebie:The things Spain does with the ball. I detest it. It's too perfect. Seriously I don't like that kind of football |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:23pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
safarigirl:As if Rohr is trying out Omeruo for the RB. Shey you see one way thinking |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:31pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Nigeria's Starting Line-ups under Rohr Source: transfermarkt VS Tanzania: 4-4-2 double 6 VS Senegal 4-4-2 double 6 VS Togo 4-3-3 def. VS South Africa 4-4-2 double 6 VS Algeria: 4-3-3 off VS Zambia: 4-4-2 double 6 VS Cameroon: 4-2-3-1 VS Cameroon: 4-2-3-1 VS Zambia: 4-2-3-1 VS Algeria: 4-2-3-1 VS Argentina: 3-5-2 flat VS Poland: 4-4-1-1 VS Serbia: 4-3-3 off 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:32pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:35pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Mujtahida , and when I asked forgiveness to read my post again slowly, his response was very similar to the one komekn just made. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:37pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Martz101:Sir honestly they are making it difficult for Echiejile to be in Russia. We played two international match and Echiejile was not used,meaning what?he is behind. Truth be told he need to tell us he is ready again,first by getting playing time with his club cos very nauseating for experience player like him not having playing time in Belgium division two league. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by owbabs: 10:38pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
realpoacher: Victor Moses' dive working wonders ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 10:38pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Kog45: The CB and RB seems to be sorted but the LB is yet to be sorted, this is my point, whether Echiejile is bad or not, neither idowu nor aina has been convincing so far and this is what Rohr who is their coach seems to be saying with his body language though he is commending them publicly so as not to cause panic. Another position is the AM position, if you can watch that interview, it surely gives more insight to the present state of things, Joel obi was invited because of the need for more left footers in the team, whether he has impressed rohr so far remains to be seen. I think you need to watch that interview. If I get the link, I will post it 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:43pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
I gave him a B after the Poland friendly, and a C over both friendlies.. ![]() modified it's not like Onazi was impressive..was it OGN or ANS that rated Onazi among the 4 flops in the Serbia friendly? Goke7: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:46pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:52pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Echiejile has had many more games.. none were convincing. At least it's looking like Idowu is ahead at the moment with one goal and one great show. But yes you are right.. it's not yet over. Goke7: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DerideGull(m): 10:52pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Running all over the pitch like a drunken goat is not part of performance. Ebuehi is one of the best players Nigeria can field. His positioning on the pitch is superb. Though he appeared rusty, he was better than some folks on the pitch. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:53pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Goke7:Sir we are not having any issue with our LB except we have three players competing for two slots and with more friendlies things will take shape. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fucklikant101(m): 11:02pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
SERBIAN Match: VITAL LESSONS! Must Read: Gernot Rohr. This is my humble reaction and submission to those in the Nff, admistrative authorities, concerned high stakeholders and friends who called to demand for a critical explanation for SE woeful showing & loss to Serbia. First, I will explain that these matches are WC preparatory, or test matches and results would vary. Only a bad Coach would insist on fielding his strongest side, and not experiment to determine his best materials leading to the main event. I salute the courage & focus of Coach Gernot Rohr for always cleverly shielding his plans from the prying eyes of rival Spies & paid Hawks. I respect his tactics & strategies. He is a very good tactician! I applaud the Coach. SE have nothing else to prove. The Coach could have won still, if he wanted to, he knew what to do, trust me. But to what purpose? Nigerians must know that football is a strategic game of cons, intrigues & delusions. It demands knowledge, intrigues & intelligence to execute a strategic winning plan. Gernot Rohr told the world that he wasn’t desperate to win the Serbian game. Implying that he was going to experiment and explore other tactics and formation that might not outrightly yeild positive result. I was spot on in my preview of this match warning against the danger of under performance, or under estimating the Serbians. We also presented that Serbia would die to win and they brought their A game. I was also spot on informing Nigerians of a ‘burst’ outcome, if our midfield fail to take charge and control, and shred-off the challenge in the middle of the pack. GR matchday-list for the occasion was telling because he threw the game open when he handed Captain’s Arm Band to Onazi, and named him in his starting 11. Furthermore, GR gave Ahmed Musa a rare chance to prove himself a better man than Ighalo as Top 9. Awaziem, Idowu, Ekong & Ebuehi were re-tested together. It was good experimentation, one you would not risk without a trial. Uzoho is still coming up. Ubuehi must not aggravate his fragile health; his quality is not in doubt. Ekong, Idowu & Awaziem are all of good quality. Why risk injury & all with the WC next door. Now, Nigerians have seen the boys and everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether such opinions are technical, or unfounded and pedestrian. Popular or unpopular the media are dishing out all sorts of analyses. I have read comments about the match and most of them are dry and sentimental. This is not only a Nigerian problem, even in Argentina, La Albiceleste had succumbed 1- 6 to Spain, in Madrid, fans will take to the streets. Portugal had also suffered a 0-3 defeat with CR7 in the mix. Some are calling for a sack. Such is the extent fans could go. Many of these so-called hardline followers (fans) are football illiterates & quacks. They lack deep knowledge of the game and only believe their team must WIN in every match, even in mock games. We need a lot of education on this. SUPER EAGLES’ CAPTAINCY: A captain is a manager & coordinator of his team, also during play. It is critical to how a team performs. The team Captain combines his duties wit supervision of his colleagues. It is a dual function & not everyone can handle it. Ordinarilly, the oldest team player should claim it but it must not be automatic if the player lacks the qualities to lead. Onazi Ogenyi has failed again leading SE. Against South Africa, last year, and now Serbia. So, GR knew why he switched the Band (C) from Troost-Ekong, CB to Onazi in 4 days. Onazi lost direction again & failed to coordinate his midfield, he allowed the Serbians to dictate the Midfield rhythm and take the initiative. These lapses clearly have shown what level GR can commit to him.. MIDFIELD: A match is won and lost in the midfield department, a good Coach will tell u. SE had no midfield play against the hardworking Serbians. Joel was lost, Ndidi suffered & Onazi was at sea, completely overwhelmed & confused. The duty & initiative to shred the Serbians was lost. It was a below par outing. No feeds to out strikers. This was a show of shame. It was a disaster! ATTACK: Ahmed Musa’s deficiency was clearly revealed without Iheanacho’s presence. Musa has by far past his best, just like Uwa Elderson Echiejele who watched from the bench. These are “Aged” players under illusion as boys. We all know them; they can’t give what they don’t have. Ighalo is fighting for a 2nd choice top 9 spot with Musa, but the man had failed himself again to take half chances, even the rear gift chance in the box, he frittered away. Victor Moses & Iwobi showed commitment and their class even in the drab encounter. OVERALL ASSESSMENT: The match served its purpose very well. Kudos to the technical Man, GR for using these matches to expose the deficiencies of our “Big Players”. Heads can now start rolling. Nigerians must not be surprised to see NEW faces in the SE next invitation. The clock is ticking fast and SE are getting set to fly. NEW CALL UPS: Our striking role is our current major headache & concerns of fans. We expect the Crew to source for proven goals-machine to be invited no matter the Division in which they play for quick assessment. Suggested Names: 1) Cyriel Dessers 2) Paul Unuachu 3) Fernando Adi 4) Obafemi Martins.. Critics speaking against seeing these eligible Nigerias get called up are either nursing a clandestine motive, or clearly know nothing about this game, and are enemies of SE & Nigeria. There are more ‘battles’ ahead to be fought to hammer the team into good shape before the WC, and GR have proved very decisive with his Master stroke in Serbian Match by not showing his full hand but only his intent. The ‘Oyinbo Man’ knows his starting 11 for the WC. Don’t be deceived. SE will be the team to beat at the Mundial. I stand by them, 100%. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:03pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
How the Super Eagles have evolved under Rohr PART 1 (see pics of actual starting line-ups and subs BELOW) In the order vs Tanzania (friendly) vs Zambia (Ndola) vs Algeria (Uyo) vs Senegal (friendly) Source: transfermarkt
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:10pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
How the Super Eagles have evolved under Rohr PART 2 (see pics of actual starting line-ups and subs BELOW) In the order VS Togo (friendly) VS South Africa (Uyo) VS Cameroon (Uyo) VS Cameroon (Yaounde) source: transfermkt 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 11:11pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Too bad you aren't in the know-how to know what it means... eeya, but sorry no pun intended, read wider ![]() ![]() ![]() You did literature in secondary school right? or you just took WAEC straight from primary school? ![]() ![]() Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:15pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
How the Super Eagles have evolved under Rohr PART 3 (see pics of actual starting line-ups and subs BELOW) In the order VS Zambia (Uyo) VS Algeria (Constantine) Source: transfermarkt 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:18pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
How the Super Eagles have evolved under Rohr PART 4 (see pics of actual starting line-ups and subs BELOW) In the order VS Argentina VS Poland VS Serbia source: transfermarkt
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 11:19pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Kog45: Idowu was not that wonderful, Aina same too |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:38pm On Mar 28, 2018 |
Martz101:...but they are keeping Echiejile on the bench or do you think Echiejile would have done better than Idowu. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Farzat: 1:52am On Mar 29, 2018 |
I didnt watch d match against Serbia live, so I was not under any pressure when i watched d replay and my observations are as follows; 1. Serbians has size and physical fitness advantage over us. (You will always struggle when challenging someone bigger than you. E.G d disallowed goal. Awazie was struggling to stop d player from heading d ball but d player was taller and stronger than him) Advise- We shud not go into physical battle with a team physically stronger than us. Imagine playing 3 DM/Tacklers (Ndidi, Onazi n joel) in such match, u dont expect such match to be free flowing and entertaining. Winning such match can only be by a slim chance as d case of Poland. We must approach such game with a different formation n tactics to outsmart them like our 2nd half approach against Argentina. 2. The Selection. I think d choice of Onazi in front of Awazie is wrong. Onazi is a kind of tackler that moves to wherever ball is available thereby leaving lots of space behind, In any case he misplaces passing, the opponent utilizes d space he left thereby exposing Awazie who is not experienced enough to handle such pressure. Advise- We should have a commanding CBs that would always call d DM to order or shout on another player to fall back whenever d DM is caught out of position. As for Onazi I think he should be coming in as a late subtitute for maybe a striker whenever we are defending a goal. 3. There are many areas to improve in this team before WC, so i wont be surprised to see any of these players gatecrash d team. 1-Sareren bazee. GR will like to use d NT success of these German breeds to lure others. 2- Isaac Success. GR likes him. If his form picks, he has edge over Musa and Simon. He can be another version of VM on d left. 3-Austin Ejide. He is d best option to fall back on. He has d experience. No issue with NFF like Enyeama and he has no terrible past working against him like DeleAyenugba. 4-Chinedu Obasi. His move to Bolton is simply to showcase his quality to avoid criticism when invited. He is eager to start playing and we all know what he can do. So dont be surprises that after 2 matches d call for his invitation will start (maybe Mikel's Connection). 5-Onyekuru. This guy wants this WC more than others, its d easiest way for him to return to Everton and so he can do anything to prove himself. If he recovers on time, he will definitely work harder than ever n increase d fan's call for his inclusion. This remaining 2 months will be very intense for players fighting to be recorgnized and others fighting to retain their place in d team. My prayer is that non of them will be injured and d injured ones would recover quickly. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 2:21am On Mar 29, 2018 |
RichardKajola:good one from you. But note this: 1. No one here as ever equated Mikel to Messi. Saying a player is what another player is to his team(e.g Mikel is to Nigeria what Messi is to Argentina) is only comparing the level of influence and importance both players are to their respective teams and not necessarily comparing strength for strength, achievement for achievement nor talent for talent. 2. Mikel slowing down game is as a result of his high ball holding ability. This ability helps create spaces for others to thrive on. Whenever Mikel holds the ball, he draws out the opponents to himself thereby freeing other team mates and giving them enough time to be well positioned to recieve the ball. Mikel hold up play helps him read the game and give him a share of control of the midfield. If he had been in that match, we would have had a different result(not necessarily a win... Either a draw, a loss with us scoring or even a win). 9 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 2:36am On Mar 29, 2018 |
fucklikant101:This is absolutely brilliant! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 4:31am On Mar 29, 2018 |
RichardKajola:This my friend is the post of the year.. Unlike some posters claiming we would win the world cup, defending the undefendable. Seriously some comments on this thread are neither here nor there. We are a team of average players.. There is a reason we are ranked so low... Even the coach knows it.... The bandwagon effect is in full flow on this thread. We were just lucky against Poland, though I was happy with the win. Anyone expecting us to just walk over Croatia or repeat the win against Argentina needs a reality check. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 4:36am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Mujtahida:pun intended, right. Who doesn't like perfection.. The strive for perfection is the aim of life. You would be very happy if our team becomes perfect surely. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 4:56am On Mar 29, 2018 |
What Went Wrong In London? Viable Replacements Needed In Super Eagles Published: March 28, 2018 The clarity of the Super Eagles misdemeanor at the Hive Stadium in London skewed a lot towards some inevitable deficiencies and once again set pulses racing, calling for measures to be taken as well. This had been a long time coming and the death knell seemed to have sounded as soon as the last minute change resulted in Leon Balogun dropping out due to illness and quite why Rohr thought it wise to replace him with Chidozie Awaziem ahead of Kenneth Omeruo remains baffling. While that seemed the necessary evil the German could have mustered, addition of a viable experienced head in defence, it must be said, was a tactical nous which could have paid off. Joel Obi has yet not done so well to justify his re inclusion, Ogenyi Onazi tried to do one too many things in the absence of the team's adhesive Mikel Obi. Ndidi remained egregious but unavoidably rendered ineffective. It seemed the team's best players the likes of Victor Moses and Alex Iwobi all struggle to replicate any sort of cohesiveness when the Tianjin Teda man is absent. Yet again, it showed. As Serbs resorted to exploiting the less experienced Tyronne Ebuehi down the right, much of the cover up work fell to the aforementioned Onazi and the team's attackers failed to truly trouble Vladimir Stojkovic in the Serbian goal. It is worth noting that the Super Eagles would come up against much more organised teams as Serbia were on the night in Russia come June. And there was young Francis Uzoho. The 19-year old would hardly be blamed for both of the goals he let through but realistically should not be saddled with so much responsibility as a first-choice teamer, no doubts about his quality though. This first loss since June 2017 is a very necessary reality check and now that Rohr and his wards are no longer under any illusions as to where they are, it is important corrections are taken now, with three more tune up games to be negotiated before the tournament proper and that would mean to sniff out worthy replacements for every position in the team. Emmanuel Chinaza Source: http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=27134
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 6:52am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Bro..... why do we have Aina in the Squad pls? Is he not fit too?! What's the essence of inviting him in the first instance?! You claimed he's not fit, yet he played 90mins while a fit Aina was on the Bench throughout the Match Duration?! Let's be frank here Dude, if indeed he's unfit, then Rohr must be stupid and naïve to play him for 90mins. 1 Like |
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