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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 7:01am On Mar 29, 2018 |
eterisan: @the bolded, I hope some folks will come to terms with this 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 7:21am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Goke7: Nah...... Ebuehi ain't fit, but Rohr had no Alternative but to play him for the whole Match Duration. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:46am On Mar 29, 2018 |
No one has said this but Ekong could be blamed for both goals.. I have seen blames for Ebuehi and Awaziem but few have looked at Ekong but he arguably had the chief blame. Ekong has been our most consistent defender but he could have done better on both occasions. The truth is that, you can not hold just one or two persons responsible.. It was poor defending as a group. A sharp contrast to the organized defensive display against Poland. Awaziem had a solid game (especially in the second half) before the goal, he certainly has a role in the final 23. Ebuehi started strongly but seemed to fade.. (could be that he is not yet 100%). After reviewing the game, i do not see what the panic is about.. The coach will learn his lessons and come again. Chill, it is just a friendly.. The purpose is to discover weaknesses and areas where we can improve. In the run-up to Atlanta 96, Togo beat our Olympic dream team 3:1 in the national stadium, Lagos.. We played with all our stars and were battered by Togo. Several Nigerians wrote off the team.. In fact, many people did not watch our games till we got to the knock out stages. It was this same team that beat Brazil and Argentina. The USA 94 and France 98 teams, lost almost all their friendlies before the WC but still had impressive performances in the tournament proper. Better to struggle in March, than to struggle in June. The coaches has a few months to review the tapes of these friendlies, figure out their weaknesses and work hard to improve during the final camp. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:02am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Joebie: Oga on top. I will be in Lagos before you come Lol |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:17am On Mar 29, 2018 |
RichardKajola: Nice write up but I will like to address some points you made. I think our pressing was above average in the game against Poland. The Poles could not build from the back repeatedly and our players put in a lot of run. I think little is far from it. I agree that our pressing was non existent against the Serbs and I feel that was where most of the damage came from. From the first five minutes, it was clear we were in trouble. I think the term over hyping Mikel is not right. I doubt anyone here thinks he is Messi but from his U20 days, he has been a key ingredient in spurring other players to perform better. You pointed that Mikel slows down the game, forgetting that he brings balance to the direction of our play and dictates the tempo of our play. Running in gun blazing does not guarantee a perfect kill over a well planned and coordinated attack. That is what Mikel brings. No doubt we could have lost with Mikel on the pitch but we would have played with better coordination and control. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:22am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Oasis007: Agreed. There has been a lot of talk about Ebuehi being unfit as a consequence he performed poorly. Firstly, I find that ludicrous, why would a coach field an unfit player. Particularly in a friendly game. There is no official corroboration of Ebuehi being unfit. In my opinion NOT TRUE. Aina is the best RB in Championship and has he ever played RB for the SE Why not At this stage you need to try, test and appraise your players. To know what each one can bring to the table. Why didnt Aina come on instead. The emotive irrational support and excuses for Ebuehi's poor performance is puzzling. We urgentlu need to bring in 4/5 tried tested and currently proven players to complement what we have. If we play with lack of cohesion then things will get worse. We do not have a bunch of top class players we rely on team cohesion and fusion to give us an edge not individual brilliance. 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kalapizim(m): 9:26am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Oasis007:have you also thought why conte has morata injured with giroud on the bench but choose to play harzard at number 9 ? coaches do these things for reasons best known to them. I don't know why we are blaming players . They didn't have a good game period ! Uche Agbo didn't play yet again how about that. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:28am On Mar 29, 2018 |
realpoacher: I calculated mine from the Fifa official website where our next raking point has been put at 635. Your is showing 653 and that is where the difference lies. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:32am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Another thing that was obvious to me was that Rohr was testing out different strategies... Against Poland, we were pressing.. Against Serbia we were not. Double pivot vs single pivot...etc... 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:35am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Oasis007: Aina was fit 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:37am On Mar 29, 2018 |
tbaba1234: I said this thing few weeks to our friendly |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:43am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Kalapizim: The comparison is not thesame, Hazard was playing the false 9 but he was fit, Ebuehi was allegedly not fit while we have another option Aina on the bench. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:48am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Kalapizim:Sir you are not getting the point,pls was Harzard not fit for that match cos the bone of contention here is Ebuehi fit or not? No need to bring Morata and Giroud to it cos a fit Harzard replaced injured Morata and leaving Giroud out was Conte tactical decision. On Uche Agbo something is fishing and only Rohr can explain. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kalapizim(m): 9:49am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Martz101:Let's not go round in circles, bottom line is the coach knows why he took such decision. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kalapizim(m): 9:50am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Kog45:I understand you but only rohr and his crew knew why they did so. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:08am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Kalapizim:Thank you my brother am not questioning Rohr decision but i will never take it that Ebuehi wasn't fit for that match and played whole 90 minutes with Aina,Omeruo and Echiejile on the bench. Aina can come in cos that's natural position, also Omeruo can do it based on his experience and Echiejile can come in by moving Idowu to RB cos he does it often for his club. When Ebuehi came in for injured Shehu nobody talks about fitness,they are even saying he was better but why sudden changed that the guy was not fit. Mind you i rate Ebuehi cos i see him as a great option but sometimes we need to talk football. Did you know some were saying Ebuehi is better cos he is more suitable for non African football. Pls is that not sentiment and emotive football analysis. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:20am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford, Jesse Lingard, Alex oxlade Chambelin, Dele Alli, Kyle walker, Danny Rose, Joe Gomez, Ryan Bertrand and Ashley Young. These are are English players and they are all black. Southgate is now telling Dele Alli he is not sure to start, he prefers an Adam llalana of Liverpool who has not up to 2 matches this season. Magomago don start to eliminate black players. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:23am On Mar 29, 2018 |
tbaba1234:Yes good to have different strategies just like our opponents were doing similar things but one thing is important we must see a team that is growing even in defeat. US 94 lost all their friendlies except a match against Georgia played in Ibadan but they went to WC and had good tournament cos Westerhoff was able to identify his shortcomings and fixed it with Chidi Nwanu and Mike Emenalo inclusion and dropped Isaac Semitoje and Nduka Ugbade. I will not deceive you am not really impressed with our performance in the friendlies especially our attack and midfield,so something need to be done,you can't be playing 90 minutes football leaving the burden on your defenders. Hope to see better eagles in more friendlies and WC. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:25am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Oasis007: Aina the best RB in the championship sadly was missing, went to bar beach to chop Suya Abe. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:26am On Mar 29, 2018 |
tbaba1234: You bring back memories. I remember that match against Togo, Okocha just arrived the stadium, he was wearing his boots and beaconing to the player playing his position to get ready to leave the field as he wants to come into the pitch even before bonfrere Jo had made up his mind to make a change. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:33am On Mar 29, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Boss tbaba1234.. We all knw u love super eagles,but at dis junction we don't av to sugarcoat d truth We didn't press Poland at all,dey had d better ball movement, if not for vicmo penalty, we only had one shot on target, wc was Ighalo's header...d team was poor generally,no link up play BTW d midfield and attack,d only positive of dt match was ekong and balogun been able to keep lewandoski at bay,even though he had some clear cut chances to bury d game if not for d bar and uzoho save Serbia exposed us big time, we were disorganized from d back to midfield to attack,we couldn't string up to three to five passes together, loosing possession at will,d midfielders come into suspect in dis aspect D attack was blunt since it was spear headed by a MYOPIC,BEREFT MUSA,to make it worst,d midfield didn't supply him any pass.ighalo came in d second half,tried his best and just one shot on target against Serb and dats all The truth is if d TECHNICAL CREW fails to correct d obvious lapses we av in d team judging from d two games,we re going to struggle at d world cup,to some extent we might not surpass d group stage. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:38am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Well said Sir Tbaba... And I did subtly point out Awaziem being better in that Babayaro short article with OGN. Babayaro was right to point out Ekong as not doing enough compared to Awaziem who was on Mitrovic for the entire first half and the second half before those slips and poor clearance caused that first goal. My only worry with the Ekong-Awaziem CB pair is that Ekong seems to switch off when paired with Awaziem. This is the secomd time this is happening. Awaziem was solid but as usual the blame will rain on him because he is less experienced. The second goal even came from Ekong's side.. He and Tyronne went to mark Tadic and got beaten for skills and footwork and Kostic capitalised and found Mitrovic. In all, well said again... The '94 Super Eagles lost to Romania and even Colombia before US 94. But they went on to make fine marks at the mundial. We will surely rise stronger from this... I trust and believe in this Super Eagles team. And I already see them as Afcon 2019 Champs in waiting (even in the presence of the Morocco, Egypt, Senegal and Cameroun sides). It's only a matter of time. tbaba1234: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:39am On Mar 29, 2018 |
RichardKajola: I am in total agreement with your post. To be honest it is very difficult to take out any positive from the 180 minutes of football the team played. It appears the players bond more outside the pitch than on the pitch. This team have played together for the better part of 3 years but they still play like strangers with many unforced errors and misplaced passes. I am sure Serbia and Poland would have been shocked how easy they found it passing through us . Finally, I disagree about your point on Uzoho. He is a million miles from being ready for the big time. What he has going for him is his height. Not natural ability or experience. The good news however will be that these games will ground the team and give Nigerian fans a reality check, especially those who bash the Chan team,Keshi and Uchebos, Babatunde etc.... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:42am On Mar 29, 2018 |
elyte89: We did press Poland, Was it effective? Perhaps not, but we did press them.. There are positives to take from both games.. We showed that we can be organized defensively.. We just have to work on building our offensive tools. It is still a work in progress and i am certain that we will see improvements in the next few games. I saw enough to believe that we can get it right. Before the 2014 WC, We played USA in our last friendly and we were atrocious that day but we were not too bad in the WC proper. The team will improve.. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:57am On Mar 29, 2018 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:22am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Bolowolowo:A team that won Afcon and reached WC 2nd round playing like headless chickens. Sir evaluating this team has nothing to do with 2010 and 2014 team Pls are you satisfied with what you saw in the friendlies cos not impressed does not mean hate or trying to write the team off We all love super eagles so better to point out the grey area for better performance. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fucklikant101(m): 11:43am On Mar 29, 2018 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:54am On Mar 29, 2018 |
[/font][color=#770077][/color] tbaba1234:[font=Lucida Sans Unicode] tbaba1234: tbaba1234:tbaba, you are very intelligent and very observant. They were more aggressive and attack minded in the game against the polish team always on the counter, but in the game against serbia, they tried possession, always trying to build from the back. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:59am On Mar 29, 2018 |
Joebie: Lets get this clear. Uwa Echiejile was convincing in almost every single game he played under Rohr his problem is that he now plays in Belgium second division. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:04pm On Mar 29, 2018 |
If Rohr gives Ighalo confidence he will be the difference maker in Russia. He is perfect striker IMO speed, strength and bags of tricks. We need to build on his relationship with Mikel, that goal against Cameroon was spiritual and telepathic and lets not forget Mikel's goal. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 12:08pm On Mar 29, 2018 |
Farzat: If I were a coach, Onazi will come in 3-5 minutes before game ends. He leaves his position and creates space for opposition to deal with the defence. The reason I prefer Ogu ahead of him in that regard (go for ball when necessary) so the defence is well shielded. Onazi follows every ball and the room he creates is terrible. We should leave sentiment and captainship aside, that guy shouldn't be starting games at all. Although some days he comes good but often times he's disastrous. |
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