greggng:



Add me on whatsap 08** . Will throw more light. Not for free cos information is power.

Why should anyone add you on whatsapp? (by the way, I have edited your number under quote)
You don't even live in Canada, and what kind of info are you going to offer that may not be found on this site?

@ Folks, please don't add this dude on whatsapp. He doesn't live in Canada and chances are he doesn't know much (if not anything) about the Canadian imigration system. You will be scammed. If you have a question, post it on this forum and you will get an answer. There are other threads about Canada on Nairaland that you may join.

BTW, I just realize the question this dude was addressing was written by himself in order to advertise his phone number.

cc: justwise

TheCongo2:


Why should people add you on whatsapp? (by the way, I have edited your number under quote)
You don't even live in Canada, and what kind of info are you going to offer that may not be found on this site?

@ Folks, please don't add this dude on whatsapp. He doesn't live in Canada and chances are he doesn't know much (if not anything) about the Canadian imigration system. You will be scammed. If you have a question, post it on this forum and you will get an answer. There are other threads about Canada on Nairaland that you may join.

BTW, I just realize the question this dude was addressing was written by himself.

cc: justwise

Listen carefully I 've been a strong active menber of nairaland for a long time. I 've benefited a lot from here and as a result I am aware of the implication of anything I do here. I don't come here to say what I cannot do. You are right I don't leave in Canada niether did i claim I do. But my friend and work mate just relocated to Canada not up to two months ago. I am not gonna state details here but he crossed from USA.that's the best I can say. Brandish me any name but lots of people that know me knows who I am. Nobody has encountered me and got misinformed. I bought my car at nairaland. A nairalander by name Siena based in London bought me a bran new car battery and he gave it to Gazzus to present to me. My story is well known here.

@Geebaby10, may you birth safely. In my opinion you should give birth in US. You can't compare the worth of an American passport to that of a Canadian one(think of the future not only money to be spent). If your child has an American citizenship, Canadian permanent stay and Nigerian passport, he or she is covered all round.

TheCongo2:


Why should anyone add you on whatsapp? (by the way, I have edited your number under quote)
You don't even live in Canada, and what kind of info are you going to offer that may not be found on this site?

@ Folks, please don't add this dude on whatsapp. He doesn't live in Canada and chances are he doesn't know much (if not anything) about the Canadian imigration system. You will be scammed. If you have a question, post it on this forum and you will get an answer. There are other threads about Canada on Nairaland that you may join.

BTW, I just realize the question this dude was addressing was written by himself in order to advertise his phone number.

cc: justwise

For calling me a scammer without knowing me and what I stand for, I will be reporting you to seun if you fail to submit apology within 24hours. Thereafter I will proceed with reporting this to the police so that you can prove your claim. I don't make empty claim. If you are real I will get you to answer for this character assassination .

greggng:


For calling me a scammer without knowing me and what I stand for, I will be reporting you to seun if you fail to submit apology within 24hours. Thereafter I will proceed with reporting this to the police so that you can prove your claim. I don't make empty claim. If you are real I will get you to answer for this character assassination .

You didn't answer his first question. Why should anyone add you on WhatsApp. Those that help people on this forum do they have 10heads??

greggng:



Listen carefully I 've been a strong active menber of nairaland for a long time. I 've benefited a lot from here and as a result I am aware of the implication of anything I do here. I don't come here to say what I cannot do. You are right I don't leave in Canada niether did i claim I do. But my friend and work mate just relocated to Canada not up to two months ago. I am not gonna state details here but he crossed from USA.that's the best I can say. Brandish me any name but lots of people that know me knows who I am. Nobody has encountered me and got misinformed. I bought my car at nairaland. A nairalander by name Siena based in London bought me a bran new car battery and he gave it to Gazzus to present to me. My story is well known here.

You sure don't even understand the purpose of a public forum.
If you did, you wasn't going to ask people to follow you in your black hole.
We don't even know how accurate is the information you are going to provide in private.
If you have something to contribute, post it here so it can be accessed by those who have been through the immigration system.

Further on, you indicate your help doesn't come for free.
Do you truly find it reasonable for people to leave a public forum with a wealth of FREE info to pay a dude with no experience and the possibility of been scammed?
Let us be reasonable.

babylove01:


You didn't answer his first question. Why should anyone add you on WhatsApp. Those that help people on this forum do they have 10heads??

I asked the person enquiring to add me privately cos what I 've to discuss is not meant for every one. It was a lot of pleading and begging before he was able to get it across to me. You never know who is online reading it could damage the chances of others trying to use such means. I did not say I am in Canada niether did i say I know about their immigration laws. Based on my friends currently experience . My help is only directed to those who wanna cross from USA to Canada full stop. Based on my friends experuence

greggng:



I asked the person enquiring to add me privately cos what I 've to discuss is not meant for every one. It was a lot of pleading and begging before he was able to get it across to me. You never know who is online reading it could damage the chances of others trying to use such means. I did not say I am in Canada niether did i say I know about their immigration laws. Based on my friends currently experience . My help is only directed to those who wanna cross from USA to Canada full stop. Based on my friends experuence

Stop misleading people. What is the moniker of the person you were responding to?
You were the one who wrote the question to which you responded.

greggng:

You never know who is online reading it could damage the chances of others trying to use such means.

Bullcrap
It is all over the news how people have been crossing the USA/Canada border to apply for asylum in Canada. And you want to make us believe the information you are going to provide haven't been in the news or online?
Dude, you want to make money and anyone who would contact you privately will soon be crying.

Good day guys, I saw this on a public forum, I want to know how true it is.

Rent credits

If you’re a renter and you live in Ontario or Manitoba, you will get some money back from the government for paying rent, provided that you’re paying rent for your principal resident. Keep in mind that in Ontario at least, this tax credit is based on your overall family income — you might not get anything back if you don’t fall into the “low income” or “middle income” category.

Now if you do (you probably will if your household income is below $50,000 per year), you’re eligible for the Ontario Energy and Property Tax Credit, a small sum of money you will get back each month. The maximum amount you can claim is $1,008 for the whole year — those 65 or older can claim $1,148 a year, and students are eligible for $25 every month for the length of time during the year that you live in a student residence.

In Manitoba, you can receive a credit of up to 20 percent of your rent payments (or $700, whichever is less) as part of your tax returns.

Now if you work from home, and having a home office is a requirement as part of your employment, a portion of your monthly rent can be included in your tax return regardless of which province or territory you live in. According to the Canada Revenue Agency, if 10 percent of your home is used for work or to run your business, then 10 percent of your rent can be used as either a business expense or employment expense that is tax deductible.

If you file your taxes electronically, you technically don’t need to submit your proof that you paid rent. But always keep your rent receipts in case you are audited by the CRA.

TheCongo2:


Stop misleading people. What is the moniker of the person you were responding to?
You were the one who wrote the question to which you responded.




Bullcrap
It is all over the news how people have been crossing the USA/Canada border to apply for asylum in Canada. And you want to make us believe the information you are going to provide haven't been in the news or online?
Dude, you want to make money and anyone who would contact you privately isn't wise.

First my moniker have never changed over my years in nairaland. My I'd remains greggng . Secondly I only hear that people cross from USA to Canada. But what I didn't have info to was how they do it? But now that I 've someone who is a friendly that 've passed through that process sucessfuly it becomes something of interest to me. I hardly come on travel section but I thought the person wanted to know how he can cross successfully from USA to Canada . That's why I reacted. If I am the one that created that moniker to ask that question, May I and my generation die in accidents but if I am not the person may same fate befall who's ever that accuses me of such. And so shall it be

greggng:



First my moniker have never changed over my years in nairaland. My I'd remains greggng . Secondly I only hear that people cross from USA to Canada. But what I didn't have info to was how they do it? But now that I 've someone who is a friendly that 've passed through that process sucessfuly it becomes something of interest to me. I hardly come on travel section but I thought the person wanted to know how he can cross successfully from USA to Canada . That's why I reacted. If I am the one that created that moniker to ask that question, May I and my generation die in accidents but if I am not the person may same fate befall who's ever that accuses me of such. And so shall it be

Who is the person on this thread who wanted to know how to cross from USA to Canada? There was no moniker associated with the question you were responding to

Second, if your friend have told you how he had crossed the USA/Canada border, this doesn't make you an expert in US/Canada border crossing. And, if someone call you privately, the person will surely be misled.
HOw do you know if your friend had even told you the full truth?
So, you want to be an immigration consultant who has got his instructions through hearsay?

Affordablerent:
@Geebaby10, may you birth safely. In my opinion you should give birth in US. You can't compare the worth of an American passport to that of a Canadian one(think of the future not only money to be spent). If your child has an American citizenship, Canadian permanent stay and Nigerian passport, he or she is covered all round.

Thanks for your comment. Honestly right now money in secondary. My husband has your opinion as well but after all my reading I am yet to see any major way in which the US passport is superior. So please share your point of view.

From what I know they seem to be the same in value. The visa free countries for both passports are the the same for any country we care about visiting in the foreseeable future and the quality of life in Canada appears to be better. The quality of education is the same as well at least until university level and the child can enter the US freely.

Then is the US passport of my child of much value to my family as a whole when we the parents need a visa to enter the US? By God's grace, I will never live separately from my child(ren) until maybe university. So, the value only seems to come in when the child is 18 and can file for us parents to be citizens but if we live in Canada for long enough, we will have Canadian passports that is of the same value and we won't need a US passport that "desperately" and to be honest I can imagine myself living in the UK or in Canada but not in US.

Then what if my child is denied entry into Canada next year? I won't leave the child alone in the US or in Nigeria so if the issue isn't rectified on time I lose my PR. So after a few years all we would have is US passport for one child instead of Canadian passport for one child and Canadian PR for parents with the chance to give our other children Canadian passports stress-free because we would be living in Canada. So in the interest of my entire family is the US passport really worth more than the Canadian passport?

Please let me know what I am missing.

Affordablerent:
@Geebaby10, may you birth safely. In my opinion you should give birth in US. You can't compare the worth of an American passport to that of a Canadian one(think of the future not only money to be spent). If your child has an American citizenship, Canadian permanent stay and Nigerian passport, he or she is covered all round.

How about the double taxes he will have to pay. Even if he never lives in US or Canada, he would have to pay taxes to both of them even if earning in Naira. Tax will be at their rate.

Iumezinwa1:
Please carry me along am thinking of BC as well. I am a credit analyst in a commercial bank in Nigeria.

I am not ready to brave it Maybe after several months of being in Canada. For now, it's Ontario.

TheCongo2:



Who is the person on this thread who wanted to know how to cross from USA to Canada? There was no moniker associated with the question you were responding to

Second, if your friend have told you how he had crossed the USA/Canada border, this doesn't make you an expert in US/Canada border crossing. And, if someone call you privately, the person will surely be misled.
HOw do you know if your friend had even told you the full truth?
So, you want to be an immigration consultant who has got his instructions through hearsay?

I am not an immigration consultant. I wanted to respond to you very fast but was busy trying to retrieve the question the person asked that I responded by saying add me on whatsap. If you can retrieve it back and paste it here, then I will respond perfectly. Secondly he is not just a friend, I am his boss and he respects me dearly, he is in Canada with his two kids and wife. I don't need to know everything about Canada. What he told me is enough for anyone that wanna cross from USA to Canada. Based on his experience I am talking. If you doubt me then pay me a visit and I will show you all evidence for free. I live at gowon estate. I am not the type that hides under computer to insult people. I 've a name to protect. Yes is a social forum but I can't post all that he told me here . I 've told seun in the past to allow people bring some form of verification here so that some kind of trust will exist. After more than 7 years here I don't think it will be wise for someone who doesn't know me to try to tarnish my image.

geebaby10:
Again, thank you for all the contributions. I really appreciate them.

For the questions, if we continue with the original Houston plan, I will arrive in Houston at less than 35 weeks and we would be flying Delta to Canada and Houston. Delta has minimal requirements for expectant mothers below 36 weeks. Hubby will be unable to stay with me for longer. The time he has will be before the baby is born if not his medicals will expire.

So far the Alberta option is the best for Canada. Enjoy the free health care, my baby has the Canadian passport and we fly to Houston as soon as we have the passport. The cons are that at some point in the future I may need to repay the costs and I will be very very alone for the birth. To say that is not scary will be a lie. However, my sister (no experience with babies either) already has a PR card (did a soft landing last year) and is willing to spend time with me when my baby is due. I have started applying for my mum's visitor visa (please anyone with tips on how to expedite this please let me know).

If we stick to the less liked option of Houston, at the POE, we tell them that family support is the main reason for birthing in America instead of Canada. Last quarter of 2019, when we move finally we file for family sponsorship for our child. From what I read and our discussions with a lawyer, the need to prove financial ability is waived for dependent children and the child can be in Canada (legally) during the sponsorship. Most of the sad stories, the children usually needed a visitor visa to enter Canada or the baby was born before the family arrived at the port for their first landing and they did not declare the change.

The major con is that immigration laws can change, sponsorship can be long and stressful and there are absolutely no guarantees. This is even more scary and sounds like something to be avoided.

So please if you know any nice people in Calgary I don't mind making new friends. I promise that I am a good person. lol.

Vcole and Blessedlovedfavd please I may need info from you guys on doctors and hospital so I will be sending you messages.

Wish you safe trip and delivery in canny, I know you are scared as a first time mum but we women have the strength to pull through.

geebaby10:


Thanks for your comment. Honestly right now money in secondary. My husband is of the same opinion but after all my reading I am yet to see any major way in which the US passport is superior. So please share your point of view.

From what I know they seem to be the same in value. The visa free countries for both passports are the the same for any country we care about visiting in the foreseeable future and the quality of life in Canada appears to be better. The quality of education is the same as well at least until university level and the child can enter the US freely.

Then is the US passport of my child of much value to my family as a whole when we the parents need a visa to enter the US? By God's grace, I will never live separately from my child(ren) until maybe university. So, the value only seems to come in when the child is 18 and can file for us parents to be citizens but if we live in Canada for long enough, we will have Canadian passports that is of the same value and we won't need a US passport that "desperately" and to be honest I can imagine myself living in the UK or in Canada but not in US.

Then what if my child is denied entry into Canada next year? I won't leave the child alone in the US or in Nigeria so if the issue isn't rectified on time I lose my PR. So after a few years all we would have is US passport for one child instead of Canadian passport for one child and Canadian PR for parents with the chance to give our other children Canadian passports stress-free because we would be living in Canada. So in the interest of my entire family is the US passport really worth more than the Canadian passport?

Please let me know what I am missing.

It seems Oga is right on this. The opportunities in US are much more than in Canada, I'm yet to see a black person in Canada reach the same heights in politics as those in US have. Quality of life in US varies from state to state, we need to consider each of the states as a country to look at things with a clearer picture. As a US citizen, your child will have more rights and opportunities in other countries if he or she decides to explore or migrate elsewhere because Americans are well known for their cunning diplomacy. They make things somehow easy for their citizens living in other countries, not just America. The good thing about Canada is free healthcare but sincerely, will you compare the healthcare system of both countries? I'm yet to hear of anyone travelling to Canada for medicals except to give birth for passport purpose. Doctors are few compared to patients and waiting period to see doctors can be long. Some Canadians even travel to America for their medicals.

greggng:



I am not an immigration consultant. I wanted to respond to you very fast but was busy trying to retrieve the question the person asked that I responded by saying add me on whatsap. If you can retrieve it back and paste it here, then I will respond perfectly. Secondly he is not just a friend, I am his boss and he respects me dearly, he is in Canada with his two kids and wife. I don't need to know everything about Canada. What he told me is enough for anyone that wanna cross from USA to Canada. Based on his experience I am talking. If you doubt me then pay me a visit and I will show you all evidence for free. I live at gowon estate. I am not the type that hides under computer to insult people. I 've a name to protect. Yes is a social forum but I can't post all that he told me here . I 've told seun in the past to allow people bring some form of verification here so that some kind of trust will exist. After more than 7 years here I don't think it will be wise for someone who doesn't know me to try to tarnish my image.

The good news is that no one will call you given that your post and phone number have been removed.

greggng:



First my moniker have never changed over my years in nairaland. My I'd remains greggng . Secondly I only hear that people cross from USA to Canada. But what I didn't have info to was how they do it? But now that I 've someone who is a friendly that 've passed through that process sucessfuly it becomes something of interest to me. I hardly come on travel section but I thought the person wanted to know how he can cross successfully from USA to Canada . That's why I reacted. If I am the one that created that moniker to ask that question, May I and my generation die in accidents but if I am not the person may same fate befall who's ever that accuses me of such. And so shall it be

The other good news is that you are the only one who is bound to this curse. No one else.


Have a nice day!

TheCongo2:


The good news is that no one will call you given that your post and phone number have been removed.





The other good news is that you are the only one who is bound to this curse. No one else.


Have a nice day!

I wish seun will profile everyone here so that no one hides under the internet to insult someone he will not 've under normal circumstances. Did you check my signature? You cannot reserve that curse until you apologises for insulting me without thinking. When it starts happening nairalander will be the first to know. I wish u good luck

Affordablerent:


It seems Oga is right on this. The opportunities in US are much more than in Canada, I'm yet to see a black person in Canada reach the same heights in politics as those in US have. Quality of life in US varies from state to state, we need to consider each of the states as a country to look at things with a clearer picture. As a US citizen, your child will be more have more rights and opportunities in other countries if he or she decides to explore or migrate elsewhere because Americans are well known for their cunning diplomacy. They make things somehow easy for their citizens living in other countries, not just America.

What is the black demographic in the US as opposed to that of Canada?
The black population in Canada is less than 1 million or 2.5 % of the entire Canadian population.
Whereas, the black population in the US is 37 millions or 12% of the entire population
Given these facts, there is more chance to see a lot black in the position of power in the US.
Simple probability math.

Canadian overseas are treated just like American and in some places even better. Some American prefer to travel overseas with the Canadian passport

Whether America or Canada. Both are good countries, and both countries have their benefits and disbenefits.

Best to have passport of both countries if possible.

greggng:



I wish seun will profile everyone here so that no one hides under the internet to insult someone he will not 've under normal circumstances. Did you check my signature? You cannot reserve that curse until you apologises for insulting me without thinking. When it starts happening nairalander will be the first to know. I wish u good luck

You goofed when you said your info wasn't free. Was that meant to be a joke?
In addition, you could also be giving wrong information.

Affordablerent:
@Geebaby10, may you birth safely. In my opinion you should give birth in US. You can't compare the worth of an American passport to that of a Canadian one(think of the future not only money to be spent). If your child has an American citizenship, Canadian permanent stay and Nigerian passport, he or she is covered all round.

If I ask who be this dumb person, them go call me rude. So may I walk on by.

salford1:

You goofed when you said your info wasn't free. Was that meant to be a joke?
In addition, you could also be giving wrong information.

My brother I am known for giving free info but my recent experience has shown that what people receive freely , they sometimes don't cherish. I swear in the name of God that created you and I that I will never dabble into giving wrong info. I earlier told you I 've a name to protect. Some notable people on nairaland 've seen me physically . My friend won't deceive me. To this end three people reading this should volunteer to visit me to verify my claim for free. I can't post all that I discuss with him here. I don't hide under internet to perpetrate evil.mind you the info I 've is only for those already in USA but trying to cross successfully to Canada.

Newmum0615:
Good day guys, I saw this on a public forum, I want to know how true it is.

Rent credits

If you’re a renter and you live in Ontario or Manitoba, you will get some money back from the government for paying rent, provided that you’re paying rent for your principal resident. Keep in mind that in Ontario at least, this tax credit is based on your overall family income — you might not get anything back if you don’t fall into the “low income” or “middle income” category.

Now if you do (you probably will if your household income is below $50,000 per year), you’re eligible for the Ontario Energy and Property Tax Credit, a small sum of money you will get back each month. The maximum amount you can claim is $1,008 for the whole year — those 65 or older can claim $1,148 a year, and students are eligible for $25 every month for the length of time during the year that you live in a student residence.

In Manitoba, you can receive a credit of up to 20 percent of your rent payments (or $700, whichever is less) as part of your tax returns.

Now if you work from home, and having a home office is a requirement as part of your employment, a portion of your monthly rent can be included in your tax return regardless of which province or territory you live in. According to the Canada Revenue Agency, if 10 percent of your home is used for work or to run your business, then 10 percent of your rent can be used as either a business expense or employment expense that is tax deductible.

If you file your taxes electronically, you technically don’t need to submit your proof that you paid rent. But always keep your rent receipts in case you are audited by the CRA.

I don't know about ON but when I lived in MB and filed taxes, I always submitted my rent receipts with my tax papers and got some money back.

greggng:



My brother I am known for giving free info but my recent experience has shown that what people receive freely , they sometimes don't cherish. I swear in the name of God that created you and I that I will never dabble into giving wrong info. I earlier told you I 've a name to protect. Some notable people on nairaland 've seen me physically . My friend won't deceive me. To this end three people reading this should volunteer to visit me to verify my claim for free. I can't post all that I discuss with him here. I don't hide under internet to perpetrate evil.mind you the info I 've is only for those already in USA but trying to cross successfully to Canada.

This thread/post is for FREE information for those who are in Canada /planning to move to Canada LEGALLY. You can create another one and people who need what you have will contact you.

Affordablerent:


It seems Oga is right on this. The opportunities in US are much more than in Canada, I'm yet to see a black person in Canada reach the same heights in politics as those in US have. Quality of life in US varies from state to state, we need to consider each of the states as a country to look at things with a clearer picture. As a US citizen, your child will have more rights and opportunities in other countries if he or she decides to explore or migrate elsewhere because Americans are well known for their cunning diplomacy. They make things somehow easy for their citizens living in other countries, not just America. The good thing about Canada is free healthcare but sincerely, will you compare the healthcare system of both countries? I'm yet to hear of anyone travelling to Canada for medicals except to give birth for passport purpose. Doctors are few compared to patients and waiting period to see doctors can be long. Some Canadians even travel to America for their medicals.

Okay. I get you a tiny bit. But the rights and benefits of Canadians and Americans in other countries are no so different. Ease of migration is almost the same for both passports. But I agree healthcare isn't 100% in Canada but you can afford it. In America that you have the healthcare, the costs can run you (even as a citizen) dry plus the healthcare system in Canada will improve. America has a higher unemployment rate for college graduates and how about the violence in America? Black people are prominent in America because there are a lot of them. For every successful black person in America there a 100 living in poverty. So let's take the whole picture.

But it is as if you didn't read my epistle. My child is part of a family and not a stand alone human being. So decisions should be made for the whole family including future children to come. In this case I cannot live in the US with my child and if anything goes wrong next year I risk loosing my PR in the long run. So in this my situation is the US passport really better?

TheCongo2:


What is the black demographic in the US as opposed to that of Canada?
The black population in Canada is less than 1 million or 2.5 % of the entire Canadian population.
Whereas, the black population in the US is 37 millions or 12% of the entire population
Given these facts, there is more chance to see a lot black in the position of power in the US.
Simple probability math.

Canadian overseas are treated just like American and in some places even better. Some American prefer to travel overseas with the Canadian passport

You are taking no prisoners today.

Thank you for writing what I was typing out.

geebaby10:


Okay. I get you a tiny bit. But the rights and benefits of Canadians and Americans in other countries are no so different. Ease of migration is almost the same for both passports. But I agree healthcare isn't 100% in Canada but you can afford it. In America that you have the healthcare, the costs can run you (even as a citizen) dry plus the healthcare system in Canada will improve. America has a higher unemployment rate for college graduates and how about the violence in America? Black people are prominent in America because there are a lot of them. For every successful black person in America there a 100 living in poverty. So let's take the whole picture.

But it is as if you didn't read my epistle. My child is part of a family and not a stand alone human being. So decisions should be made for the whole family including future children to come. In this case I cannot live in the US with my child and if anything goes wrong next year I risk loosing my PR in the long run. So in this my situation is the US passport really better?

You are a very smart and intelligent woman. I can tell from your posts, and I have no doubt you will make the right informed decision for your family.
I also have no doubt you will do well as a first time mum. You will look back and wonder why you were worried in the first place. I wish you the very best and God's favor.

@affordablerent, it is surprising that you are unaware that Canada has a much better health care system than the states. It is public information and is even used as a joke between both countries. Having experienced health care from the states under a private system that I paid for and same care in Canada under the public system, I can say that both as a patient as well as a health worker, Canada is wayyy superior.
@geebaby10, the 183 days residency requirement for health care insurance is actually for all provinces and not just Alberta.
You can PM me, to be honest 6 months goes by quickly and before you know it, you'll head home. If your sis would be willing to stay with you for a bit that would be nice. Your family in the states could also come visit for a short while.

AZeD1:


This thread/post is for FREE information for those who are in Canada /planning to move to Canada LEGALLY. You can create another one and people who need what you have will contact you.

P

Pls understand me i only directed my message to that nairaland member that asked that question. I didnot say everyone should cpntact me .my intention was not to derail the thread. Is unfortunate if that's your perception and I cannot help it.