I said it early that we would play the Polish team, but not the Serbs. Those guys have always been physical to a fault.


Abeg who dey talk say Ebuehi no fit?


The goals came from his angles cos of the space...... But that goal started from a stupid clearance from the CBs.


I'm sure Shehu will always be a starter.... he's more Bellerin-ic than Ebuehi. Not taking anything from Ebuehi atall.


As for striker, can't we find one that would play the Benzema style for the GWG; scoring isn't necessary but opening others up is....

Calling new faces was the ish many had on this thread 100s of pages back, and now its resurfaced. That time those calling for it were hit at, etc, unaware they were just on the damage control levels. Now that damage no kon get control again now, na to dey call new face just 77days to go? issokay.


Meanwhile I'm still on the stance of "anything to make us successfu" even if it involves calling back Amokachi.

One loss and the thread is already experiencing meltdown again and reactionary calls... Chaaaiiiiii...



May day! may day! This thread is on a meltdown!

I repeat, this thread is experiencing a meltdown! May day!

We need more power! More power! This is may day!

tbaba1234:


The coach has no confidence in Agbo. I doubt, he will make the WC.

Rohr appears to be more focused on getting the right tactical formula than getting new players. I see him experimenting more with tactics than with players.

If Rohr doesn't have confidence in Agbo why continue invitation,likely a powerful man in NFF or agent is forcing Agbo on Rohr cos something is fishing.

Remember Agbo was dropped from the team against Cameroon or South Africa but after few days of releasing the list he was recalled,something is wrong somewhere and better for Rohr to act fast cos we can't be wasting space when we have players who are eager to play for Nigeria.

daveP:
I said it early that we would play the Polish team, but not the Serbs. Those guys have always been physical to a fault.


Abeg who dey talk say Ebuehi no fit?


The goals came from his angles cos of the space...... But that goal started from a stupid clearance from the CBs.


I'm sure Shehu will always be a starter.... he's more Bellerin-ic than Ebuehi. Not taking anything from Ebuehi atall.


As for striker, can't we find one that would play the Benzema style for the GWG; scoring isn't necessary but opening others up is....

If scoring isn't necessary but opening others up then Ideye Brown is available.

TheSuperNerd:
I know he speaks based on personal experience with the '96 Olympic Eagles team-The Dream Team... but he may also have a point. That said, we cannot downplay the impacts and Values of a truly top goalie shaa... but still Emma Babayaro has a point


Ex Super Eagles Goalkeeper – Eagles Don’t Need A Fantastic Goalkeeper To Do Well In Russia




Atlanta 96 Olympic gold medallist Emmanuel Babayaro says the clamour for a very good goalkeeper for Nigeria at the World Cup in Russia is one issue that has been over emphasised.

Speaking to Owngoalnigeria.com in an exclusive interview, the former West Ham United trialist said Nigeria should be looking at strengthening other areas of the team and not necessarily the goalkeeping department.

The duo of Francis Odinaka Uzoho of Deportivo La Coruna and Ikechukwu Ezenwa of Enyimba are in the running to man the post for Nigeria, no thanks to the ailment suffered by first choice goalkeeper Carl Ikeme.

Babayaro down played the need for a fantastic goalkeeper at the World Cup, insisting that if other areas of the team is properly stocked, an average goalkeeper can do the job for the Eagles.

”The reason why Nigerians are clamouring for a very good goalkeeper is because of the amount of goal scoring opportunities we give opponents during games. Which is directly a fault of the defenders and not the goalkeeper “, he told Owngoalnigeria.com.

"Vincent Enyeama has done well for us in the last two World Cups, and the best his display has given us is to reduce the score line as other departments didn’t do what was expected of them.

”As a country we presently can’t boast of a goalkeeper of Enyeama’s quality but it’s not a necessity as being mentioned by many. For instance with all due respect to Dosu Joseph, the reason behind our triumph at the Olympics wasn’t because he was a fantastic goalkeeper.

”We won gold at the 1996 Olympics because other departments of the team made up for our short comings elsewhere. First of all we need a very good defence set up to provide cover for whoever is picked to man the post by coach Gernot Rohr. That should be our priority now”, he concluded.



**Osas Mahawi


Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2018/03/29/ex-super-eagles-goalkeeper-eagles-dont-need-a-fantastic-goalkeeper-to-do-well-in-russia/


Russia 2018 WC Countdown: 76 days 16 hours 34 mins to go

The question is do we have a fantastic team to accommodate very average keeper.

I think this post is just to tell fans that he was better than Dosu Joseph at Atlanta 96.

A good team need solid keeper and clearly we don't have a team that can absorbed unnecessary pressure,so better to have a good keeper.

mank1234:
I agree with this 80%.

Good keeper cannot win you a match but a good defence can. After all, if the defence is too good the keeper will be rarely tested as it happened in Nig vs Cam @ Uyo

Sir goalkeeper win matches check Ikeme against Zambia, Ezenwa against Angola and Ajiboye against Sudan.

Better to have solid keeper.

Humility017:

both goal keepers are not needed....
ejide is like akpeyi always scared and shaking in goal...I still remember the goals he gift away to the Scottish in one of our friendlies prior the 2014 world cup...in engalnd...

uzoho will do better than that.....
please I will even prefer we manage Dele...but ejide is a no no for me....

Sir with Uzoho,Akpeyi and Ezenwa,pls evaluate our chances at WC.

Humility017:


then rohr has a problem...
why keep inviting players you have no confidence on...little wonder he failed in those Africa countries he managed...

even keshi....used the Mexico, Scotland friendlies prior the 2014 world cup to try new players.....

we need good legs in that midfield who can pass the ball well....and also a hungry striker...Ighalo i repeat is not good enough.

So far, he has succeeded in Nigeria with his philosophy.

Coaches have different approaches.

Humility017:

the earlier we tell ourselves the truth...the better for US....we don't need an Ighalo kind of striker at the world cup...
a striker who can miss 7 glaring chances
is not what the super eagles need at this time...
I think nancho we should continue with from now....
i think part of our problem in this team is rohr....his conservative nature is not helping matters....
why invite players to camp and they won't get to play a mere friendly?
why keep inviting them?
now...we don't know how ajayi, Gabriel play...if they are better...no one knows
and thats had...this friendly especaliy against Serbia would have offered him an opportunity to play ajayi and let's see how good he is...likewise Agbo and Gabriel....
so doing we will get to know how good they're and if they can displace Ighalo.
also I think dessers or sadiq umar should have been invited in place of Gabriel.....
rohr is very scared of taking risks or probably he is just too conservative

Sir we don't need Ighalo abi but you are canvassing for Junior Ajayi,Sadiq Umar and Gabriel,pls on what criteria.

bengine:


I disagree, go watch those games again..you will notice he offers next to nothing going forward, his passing is not good, always passing backwards, can't advance play...he lacks speed now..the only thing he is good at currently is tackling!!!, put a good winger on him and we are in trouble..

Someone posted a facebook link fee pages ago where you can watch all of super eagles game in the last one year..I had to take time to watch most of our wcq again..bros echiejile is on a downward spiral with his game now...anyone clamouring for echiejile should take their time and watch those games and u would notice right away this is not the echiejile of 2014..

He had 2 major jobs in the qualifiers Mahrez and Basagog and I will let u answer if he did a great job or not.

Looolll... I just knew you will take it like that because you know about how Emma Babayaro was dropped for Dosu Joseph. History classes again.

But still I believe He is saying the truth. Dosu Joseph was so average and not fantastic at all. Yet we win Olympic gold. We had a team that kinda managed to cover for his deficiencies.

Now do we currently have a team that can cover for our keeper's frailties since we are not taking a top class keeper to the mundial? I would say yes... Not entirely a super fantastic team but a very disciplined one that can beat anyone when at their best. In the Balogun-Ekong partnership, we have quite a solid defence and our fullbacks are also good to go. They are not world class but they have shown they can do an effective job of protecting the goalie.

What we need is a good bench to back up the first XI in those key positions and I believe we will present a good bench at the mundial.

In all, I am not downplaying the importance of a top class goalie.... Honestly, having such will be a huge asset for us, but again I have seen where teams win even with goalies not being top class. Atlanta 96 comes to mind. Even Barca with Victor Valdez when he was quite average (or maybe slightly above average as time went on) still conquered the world.

Kog45:
The question is do we have a fantastic team to accommodate very average keeper.

I think this post is just to tell fans that he was better than Dosu Joseph at Atlanta 96.

A good team need solid keeper and clearly we don't have a team that can absorbed unnecessary pressure,so better to have a good keeper.

TheSuperNerd:
Looolll... I just knew you will take it like that because you know about how Emma Babayaro was dropped for Dosu Joseph. History classes again.

But still I believe He is saying the truth. Dosu Joseph was so average and not fantastic at all. Yet we win Olympic gold. We had a team that kinda managed to cover for his deficiencies.

Now do we currently have a team that can cover for our keeper's frailties since we are not taking a top class keeper to the mundial? I would say yes... Not entirely a super fantastic team but a very disciplined one that can beat anyone when at their best. In the Balogun-Ekong partnership, we have quite a solid defence and our fullbacks are also good to go. They are not world class but they have shown they can do an effective job of protecting the goalie.

What we need is a good bench to back up the first XI in those key positions and I believe we will present a good bench at the mundial.

In all, I am not downplaying the importance of a top class goalie.... Honestly, having such will be a huge asset for us, but again I have seen where teams win even with goalies not being top class. Atlanta 96 comes to mind. Even Barca with Victor Valdez when he was quite average (or maybe slightly above average as time went on) still conquered the world.

Sir i know much on how Babayaro was dropped and it all centred on corruption but he should forgive and forget,using that to measure this team is not acceptable, our present defenders need good keeper to excel and better for the team in general.

Kog45:
Sir we don't need Ighalo abi but you are canvassing for Junior Ajayi,Sadiq Umar and Gabriel,pls on what criteria.

read very well sir...
let's explore the other options...and go with the best only...
why keep sticking to Ighalo when you've not tried the rest to ascertain their qualities...

tbaba1234:


So far, he has succeeded in Nigeria with his philosophy.

Coaches have different approaches.

yes he has succeed to an extent...
but there is room for more success....
I am only angry at him keep inviting players like agbo and not playing them at all....

Lol... I know you do naa. I have also read the whole story.

Our present first choice defensive pair protected Uzoho against Poland and protected Ezenwa against Cameroun. They did same for Akpeyi against Mahrez and Algeria. This is why I say our team can cope without a world class keeper. Dosu was not fantastic yet we won Olympic Gold.

Kog45:
Sir i know much on how Babayaro was dropped and it all centred on corruption but he should forgive and forget,using that to measure this team is not acceptable, our present defenders need good keeper to excel and better for the team in general.

safarigirl:
but he invited Joel and played Joel in a span of two games.

He won't have to sit on the bench if he is exceptional in training

Dear....I really appreciate him for that.
for players like agbo he keeps inviting and not playing them...leaves me with worries...

I believe if we can just get our midfield and attack right....the problem wit the defense and goal keeping unit will be minimized.

especially in that striking option...I will want other players to be tried...like dessers, umar even ajayi let's see what they bring to the table.....

safarigirl:
but he invited Joel and played Joel in a span of two games.

He won't have to sit on the bench if he is exceptional in training

you've a point from what you wrote...
I will want him and Henry to be invited...
at least that attack need more bite...

Kog45:
If scoring isn't necessary but opening others up then Ideye Brown is available.

Ideye chances of flourishing with this team would be high. But who else on here would agree. I'm tired of seeing Ighalo that rarely bites. I sit and watch my TV and my heart races only when Iwobi or Moses goes near the box 18 but not with Ighalo.

Farzat:


If we are looking for experience, Ejide is more experienced than Ayenugba. That he was inactive for a season does not cancel d fact that he is active and in form now. Playing in 2nd division should not be an issue afterall Ayenugba was also in 2nd division 2 seasons ago. If being in 2nd division is equal to poor quality then u should stop clamouring for Championship players and dont forget that Uzoho is in 3rd division. T that we are saving for tomorow does not mean we should starve to death today. Fifa will not give us any trophy for parading d youngest team in d mundial, we must mix experience and youthfulness to get d needed balance.
Ejide's club is on d verge of gaining promotion and he has been one of their standout player. He has years of experience in d Nigerian league, Tunisian league, French league, Israeli league and National team. In addition to his experience, He has good height and composure that could instill confidence in our defenders.
I am not actually suggesting players to a coach that understands d game much more than me, but what am saying that if need be, Ejide would be d best option to fall back on.

I'm not sure how you come to this deduction.

Are you saying all leagues are the same.

So Tunisian, Isreali, leagues are now on par with the top leagues in Europe.

The EPL is a top league actually rated second in Europe by UEFA ranking system. So now the 2nd tier of the European league system is now on par with Tunisian and Isreali league.

Is that what you are saying Because I'm a bit lost what rational underpins your deductions.

Joebie:
hahaha bat guy.. I go catch for Warri.. home is always home

You sure

Can you chop Owgho with starch for Effurun jnct.

Leave the Warri matter for those who are MADE IN WARRI not for Oyibo aje butter like u.


Oyibo go chop pepper soup, no be dye e wan dye so bros.

safarigirl:
you are not a person I regard on this thread, so best believe, I do not read the trash you post here.


I am just quoting you, so, you save your MB in case of next time

Lol I laff so I laff, tnk u very much u fill my belle with laff. I still deh Laff.

I be ghost na, so why you reply.

Hungry 2 read my post deh catch u.

I get unlimited data in and out of UK wherever I deh so no trouble your head with Mb.

Whaaaaten be d rubbish when I yan na Talk make devil shame. Lol

Humility017:

read very well sir...
let's explore the other options...and go with the best only...
why keep sticking to Ighalo when you've not tried the rest to ascertain their qualities...

I read very well sir...

What am telling you is that Ajayi Junior, Gabriel Okechukwu and Sadiq Umar are not better than Ighalo so look for another options.

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... I know you do naa. I have also read the whole story.

Our present first choice defensive pair protected Uzoho against Poland and protected Ezenwa against Cameroun. They did same for Akpeyi against Mahrez and Algeria. This is why I say our team can cope without a world class keeper. Dosu was not fantastic yet we won Olympic Gold.

OK o boss

daveP:
Ideye chances of flourishing with this team would be high. But who else on here would agree. I'm tired of seeing Ighalo that rarely bites. I sit and watch my TV and my heart races only when Iwobi or Moses goes near the box 18 but not with Ighalo.

Let's face the facts we are taking to the World cup a striker who has scored once in the EPL. That does not inspire overwhelming confidence. We have a front man who at times seems not to be on top of his game.

Compare Mitrovic a supposedly lowly championship striker to our guys. See the panic the guy cause us. In actual fact we were lucky he could have scored 4 considering the goal that was wrongly disallowed it was over the line.

Players go to the world cup on the back of current form not hoping to catch form in the world cup.

If things get complicated who do you bring off the bench to lead the line. We need strength in depth.

We should have used the friendly games to have tested at least 6/7 strikers or at least had them camp.

But no we are recycling and rebounding.

How can Musa who was struggling in Leicester U23 now all of a sudden become prolific.

That's why I called for Obagoal Ideye, etc experience proven tested and consistent over the past 10 years. If it was so easy to get big bucks in China and score. I'm sure considering the disgusting money they pay all the Nigerian origin players in Turkey , Isreal, Norway, Austria, etc would all be there now if they could.

Kog45:
OK o boss

Lol.... You initially typed.. "Okay o I agree.."

TheSuperNerd:


Lol.... You initially typed.. "Okay o I agree.."

Yes i agree but need to hail the boss TheSuperNerd.

komekn:


Let's face the facts we are taking to the World cup a striker who has scored once in the EPL. That does not inspire overwhelming confidence. We have a front man who at times seems not to be on top of his game.

Compare Mitrovic a supposedly lowly championship striker to our guys. See the panic the guy cause us. In actual fact we were lucky he could have scored 4 considering the goal that was wrongly disallowed it was over the line.

Players go to the world cup on the back of current form not hoping to catch form in the world cup.

If things get complicated who do you bring off the bench to lead the line. We need strength in depth.

We should have used the friendly games to have tested at least 6/7 strikers or at least had them camp.

But no we are recycling and rebounding.

How can Musa who was struggling in Leicester U23 now all of a sudden become prolific.

That's why I called for Obagoal Ideye, etc experience proven tested and consistent over the past 10 years. If it was so easy to get big bucks in China and score. I'm sure considering the disgusting money they pay all the Nigerian origin players in Turkey , Isreal, Norway, Austria, etc would all be there now if they could.

Which brings to the fore that irrespective of where you ply your trade, if you play consistently, then you're good enough for the team. cos I can't but agreeo this fact.

See this team needs good players that deliver. Truly we all may have favourites here and there. But if we need to get goals at the mundial, we need a striker.


Okay let's imagine a scenario where the players we look down on come and perform, won't we be the same peeps that would start praising them, and digging up their history as though it was just yesterday? That's why I don't mind Obagoal coming back. Cos even Ighalo isn't crafty in front of goal as he is....


Anyone on here who without Mikel, or with Mikel playing, Put their money in Ighalo to lead our attack come Russia, that's an anti -GWG.


Don't even bring up Musa. He is a flashbang.


Your points are noted. But whatever the case may be..... I wished we tried out some strikers as much as our attention is on the Goalkeeping issue.

Keep clamouring for obafemi martin. Make I yarn you the real matter... you see the way the distance from naija to Australia far and long? Na so the chances of obagoal invitation to the team be, so don’t waste your time. He is an expired striker for super eagles. Why not clamour for yakubu? Or Osazee?. Nacho will bang in goal in Russia. I think we need third striker in the person of Cyril desser.

Kog45:
I read very well sir...

What am telling you is that Ajayi Junior, Gabriel Okechukwu and Sadiq Umar are not better than Ighalo so look for another options.

I concur, I agree unreservedly without any question.

Firstly, are they proven and tested or are they just showing future potential. With respect the Egyptian league is not Seria A and neither is the Nigerian league. We need CURRENT not future prospects but players that are game changers or are showing in a quality League not just potential but ability.

Can I add are they currently better than Ideye or Obagoal.

What are the best option for Nigeria right now in terms of tried and tested quality forward players

kellycute:
Keep clamouring for obafemi martin. Make I yarn you the real matter... you see the way the distance from naija to Australia far and long? Na so the chances of obagoal invitation to the team be, so don’t waste your time. He is an expired striker for super eagles. Why not clamour for yakubu? Or Osazee?. Nacho will bang in goal in Russia. I think we need third striker in the person of Cyril desser.

Why is he Obagoal expired Too old, not good enough. Don't just make emotive noise based on prejudice. But give your reasons.

I am sure you must watch numerous football analysts on TV. And the first question that comes up is your current form not your past form.

Defoe was excellent for Sunderland and a definite for the world cup last season but injury has put him out of reckoning. England will not take an off form striker to the World cup infact most serious countries will not.

I do agree that Cyril Dresser should be tested before selected and has far more justification for a call up than Junior Ajayi. Is Dresser prolific is he better than Obagoal younger definitely but better

The Eredivisie is ranked in world football lower than the Chinese league. In addition the Eredivisie is the easiest league to score in among the top twenty football leagues in Europe.