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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:15pm On Mar 30, 2018
edi287:
Seriously, if you are against Martins being invited, it should be for a valid reason other than "he's old and expired". Last season, this same Martins had a similar goal ratio to our current first choice striker IN THE SAME LEAGUE. Why is it that whenever Komekn mentions Martins, it's like WW3 to some people??
CYRIL DESSERS!!!!!!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:16pm On Mar 30, 2018
Humility017:

let them kick a ball in the colors of the super eagles before you pass judgements on them....
Ighalo is simply not better too...I see him as a flash in pan kind of striker.....

CYRIL DESSERS!!!!!!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 5:20pm On Mar 30, 2018
Odion Jude Ighalo.
Gernot Rohr's first choice Striker.

Can anyone remind me of the national teams Jude has scored against excluding Cameroon and Luxembourg?

The memories of him scoring in the GWG were: an header against Cameroon in an international friendly match in 2015 and a well placed goal after shaking of another cameronian in a WCQ match played in 2017.

If I'm to go by his stats in the GWG, I don't expect him to be our messiah in Russia.

Looking at the bench for a capable replacement for him leaves one dejected. As there is no one to call on when things don't go as planned. We might just be towing the same path of Keshi's 2014 world cup team. How? We took a less inform and goal drought experiencing Emmanuel Emenike to the World Cup as our main point man, backing him with another toothless striker in Shola Ameobi and expecting both players to perform a miracle by doing the impossible. Alas, we all knew how it all ended.

Emenike and Ighalo seems to be the same kind of players. They're flash in the pan and inconsistent. Enough of these: he brings more to the team than scoring goals, enough of all these 'hold up plays', pressing ability etc... The first and main role of a 9 or striker is to put the ball into the net. All other things a striker brings are just additional.

Finally, if we must do well, we need two potent point, Clinical and unforgiving Strikers who can atleast convert 1 out of every 3 chances created.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:27pm On Mar 30, 2018
AIG07:
Odion Jude Ighalo.
Gernot Rohr's first choice Striker.

Can anyone remind me of the national teams Jude has scored against excluding Cameroon and Luxembourg?

The memories of him scoring in the GWG were: an header against Cameroon in an international friendly match in 2015 and a well placed goal after shaking of another cameronian in a WCQ match played in 2017.

If I'm to go by his stats in the GWG, I don't expect him to be our messiah in Russia.

Looking at the bench for a capable replacement for him leaves one dejected. As there is no one to call on when things don't go as planned. We might just be towing the same path of Keshi's 2014 world cup team. How? We took a less inform and goal drought experiencing Emmanuel Emenike to the World Cup as our main point man, backing him with another toothless striker in Shola Ameobi and expecting both players to perform a miracle by doing the impossible. Alas, we all knew how it all ended.

Emenike and Ighalo seems to be the same kind of players. They're flash in the pan and inconsistent. Enough of these: he brings more to the team than scoring goals, enough of all these 'hold up plays', pressing ability etc... The first and main role of a 9 or striker is to put the ball into the net. All other things a striker brings are just additional.

Finally, if we must do well, we need two potent point, Clinical and unforgiving Strikers who can atleast convert 1 out of every 3 chances created.
CYRIL DESSERS!!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:41pm On Mar 30, 2018
edi287:

Question is who will we be crossing to?? Ighalo isn't a great header of the ball.
but you know that crosses are not meant for headers alone. they can disrupt a team's defence in a way dribbles and passes do not(as in its own way) and it saves energy. this is a serious deficiency in our game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:43pm On Mar 30, 2018
safarigirl:
Iwobi's fourth goal against Argentina was from a cross whipped in by Musa.
agreed but crosses are not a part of our game. its very glaring that it is not. i put it down to the fact that our wide men are not good crossers of the ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:47pm On Mar 30, 2018
fucklikant101:

I will advise you go back to your BBN thread or go and cook and clean the house before coming to the bed room to please me as I wish wink
congo4ka you have reappeared under another guise abi. she's said she doesnt like all this your vulgar jokes directed at her person. respect her and desist from directing your jokes to her. na beg i dey beg you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 6:02pm On Mar 30, 2018
Icon4s:


I calculated mine from the Fifa official website where our next raking point has been put at 635. Your is showing 653 and that is where the difference lies.

Don't worry sir, let's wait until April rankings

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:06pm On Mar 30, 2018
Where are Sone Aluko fans?? Reading vs QPR and Reading is 1-0 up. Aluko scored in the 13th min of first half.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 6:18pm On Mar 30, 2018
AIG07:
Odion Jude Ighalo.
Gernot Rohr's first choice Striker.

Can anyone remind me of the national teams Jude has scored against excluding Cameroon and Luxembourg?

The memories of him scoring in the GWG were: an header against Cameroon in an international friendly match in 2015 and a well placed goal after shaking of another cameronian in a WCQ match played in 2017.

If I'm to go by his stats in the GWG, I don't expect him to be our messiah in Russia.

Looking at the bench for a capable replacement for him leaves one dejected. As there is no one to call on when things don't go as planned. We might just be towing the same path of Keshi's 2014 world cup team. How? We took a less inform and goal drought experiencing Emmanuel Emenike to the World Cup as our main point man, backing him with another toothless striker in Shola Ameobi and expecting both players to perform a miracle by doing the impossible. Alas, we all knew how it all ended.

Emenike and Ighalo seems to be the same kind of players. They're flash in the pan and inconsistent. Enough of these: he brings more to the team than scoring goals, enough of all these 'hold up plays', pressing ability etc... The first and main role of a 9 or striker is to put the ball into the net. All other things a striker brings are just additional.

Finally, if we must do well, we need two potent point, Clinical and unforgiving Strikers who can atleast convert 1 out of every 3 chances created.


please mention the inform strikers we have at the moment .... not strikers in the backwater league .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bengine: 6:18pm On Mar 30, 2018
Hey guys I just watched that nigeria vs serbia game again with clear head and no tension, I know Joel Obi didn't play that well but I think he has something to offer the team. He wasn't has bad as we are all making it sound like, yes he misplaced some passes but he seem to have a dynamism to his play that Onazi, Ogu, and Agu doesn't have..his set piece wasn't too bad, a few more practise with the team and a better understanding might unfold.

Before you all crucify me,
go on facebook
type green eagles hq,
Search Nigeria Football highlights and
Watch the games again with a clear head, no tension involved.
All of nigeria games in the last one year is on that facebook page..for those that think Echiejile has anything to offer the team, you need to go watch most of our wcq games and you would see for yourself how much he has depreciated. If you think he is still good, tell us what he would offer the team or anything he truly excels at!! I no wan hear he has experience, mikel has experience and that experience does something for the national team we all can see..

Regarding Ebuehi, he tends to shy away from physical battles but he is more technical and reads the play well..him and ekong was just to soft regarding that second goal when that guy dribbled both of them and they didn't foul him. I would give Ebuehi benefit of doubt because I'm still playing actively and I know when you are recovering from groin injuries, you are scared of stretching your legs because of fear of the groin..you need a couple of games that would truly give you confidence its gone..

You could pass fit for a game but a lil snap tackle or stretch could make u feel a little pain there..this would stop you from commiting 100% in tackles..I'm talking from experience regarding this injury, I played for my city, for my university and I constantly struggled with it...Groin injury = minimum of 6weeks to recover and trust me you are not at 100% after 6weeks...I doubt he has had this injury for 3weeks..
Note: you could have a mild groin and still play the game but fear would be all over you..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:26pm On Mar 30, 2018
AIG07:
Odion Jude Ighalo.
Gernot Rohr's first choice Striker.

Can anyone remind me of the national teams Jude has scored against excluding Cameroon and Luxembourg?

The memories of him scoring in the GWG were: an header against Cameroon in an international friendly match in 2015 and a well placed goal after shaking of another cameronian in a WCQ match played in 2017.

If I'm to go by his stats in the GWG, I don't expect him to be our messiah in Russia.

Looking at the bench for a capable replacement for him leaves one dejected. As there is no one to call on when things don't go as planned. We might just be towing the same path of Keshi's 2014 world cup team. How? We took a less inform and goal drought experiencing Emmanuel Emenike to the World Cup as our main point man, backing him with another toothless striker in Shola Ameobi and expecting both players to perform a miracle by doing the impossible. Alas, we all knew how it all ended.

Emenike and Ighalo seems to be the same kind of players. They're flash in the pan and inconsistent. Enough of these: he brings more to the team than scoring goals, enough of all these 'hold up plays', pressing ability etc... The first and main role of a 9 or striker is to put the ball into the net. All other things a striker brings are just additional.

Finally, if we must do well, we need two potent point, Clinical and unforgiving Strikers who can atleast convert 1 out of every 3 chances created.

God bless you immensely bro.

You shall lack no good thing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:35pm On Mar 30, 2018
Hahahaha for ur mind.. when we see u go know who be area.

komekn:


You sure

Can you chop Owgho with starch for Effurun jnct.

Leave the Warri matter for those who are MADE IN WARRI not for Oyibo aje butter like u.


Oyibo go chop pepper soup, no be dye e wan dye so bros.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mumemma: 6:43pm On Mar 30, 2018
AIG07:
Odion Jude Ighalo.
Gernot Rohr's first choice Striker.

Can anyone remind me of the national teams Jude has scored against excluding Cameroon and Luxembourg?

The memories of him scoring in the GWG were: an header against Cameroon in an international friendly match in 2015 and a well placed goal after shaking of another cameronian in a WCQ match played in 2017.

If I'm to go by his stats in the GWG, I don't expect him to be our messiah in Russia.

Looking at the bench for a capable replacement for him leaves one dejected. As there is no one to call on when things don't go as planned. We might just be towing the same path of Keshi's 2014 world cup team. How? We took a less inform and goal drought experiencing Emmanuel Emenike to the World Cup as our main point man, backing him with another toothless striker in Shola Ameobi and expecting both players to perform a miracle by doing the impossible. Alas, we all knew how it all ended.

Emenike and Ighalo seems to be the same kind of players. They're flash in the pan and inconsistent. Enough of these: he brings more to the team than scoring goals, enough of all these 'hold up plays', pressing ability etc... The first and main role of a 9 or striker is to put the ball into the net. All other things a striker brings are just additional.

Finally, if we must do well, we need two potent point, Clinical and unforgiving Strikers who can atleast convert 1 out of every 3 chances created.


How could he score without supplies...Ighalo was virtually tracking back to get the balls.....Abeg leave my Jude

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 6:45pm On Mar 30, 2018
Mujtahida:
Almost all the teams that I've watched- Germany, Spain, South Korea, Portugal, Egypt whip in crosses. Only Nigeria doesn't do that. We are really crippled in the wings. Dribbling and passing towards goal is a waste of energy when instead of running you can send the ball on an errand through well delivered crosses.

If u are in dire need of those crosses then call up the master crosser himself "Samuel Kalu" also bring in Sadiq to nod them in
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:47pm On Mar 30, 2018
Sexist

fucklikant101:

I will advise you go back to your BBN thread or go and cook and clean the house before coming to the bed room to please me as I wish wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:47pm On Mar 30, 2018
Mujtahida:

but you know that crosses are not meant for headers alone. they can disrupt a team's defence in a way dribbles and passes do not(as in its own way) and it saves energy. this is a serious deficiency in our game.

Very right bro.

And in addition:

1. We don't present threats to the opposition from set-pieces e.g. free-kicks, corner-kicks et Al


2. It seems that our defense against set-pieces are suspect as well
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sainty92: 7:13pm On Mar 30, 2018
Humility017:


Dear....I really appreciate him for that.
for players like agbo he keeps inviting and not playing them...leaves me with worries...

I believe if we can just get our midfield and attack right....the problem wit the defense and goal keeping unit will be minimized.

especially in that striking option...I will want other players to be
tried...like dessers, umar even ajayi let's see what they bring to the table.....

but the dude is not complaining..neither is the coach..
his time I believe will come.....for now let him stick to the bench...
he is helping in trainings I believe...


This was ur exact statement few days ago about Agbo. Why are u now worried sir?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:16pm On Mar 30, 2018
nelszx:

Why not we invite Oliseh, Udeze and Amuneke?
Build on what's on ground and make them play as a unit. Only that can make them a formidable force.
Yes we need a consortium of coaches they can be invited too to assist the coach. cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:24pm On Mar 30, 2018
AIG07:
Odion Jude Ighalo.
Gernot Rohr's first choice Striker.

Can anyone remind me of the national teams Jude has scored against excluding Cameroon and Luxembourg?

The memories of him scoring in the GWG were: an header against Cameroon in an international friendly match in 2015 and a well placed goal after shaking of another cameronian in a WCQ match played in 2017.

If I'm to go by his stats in the GWG, I don't expect him to be our messiah in Russia.

Looking at the bench for a capable replacement for him leaves one dejected. As there is no one to call on when things don't go as planned. We might just be towing the same path of Keshi's 2014 world cup team. How? We took a less inform and goal drought experiencing Emmanuel Emenike to the World Cup as our main point man, backing him with another toothless striker in Shola Ameobi and expecting both players to perform a miracle by doing the impossible. Alas, we all knew how it all ended.

Emenike and Ighalo seems to be the same kind of players. They're flash in the pan and inconsistent. Enough of these: he brings more to the team than scoring goals, enough of all these 'hold up plays', pressing ability etc... The first and main role of a 9 or striker is to put the ball into the net. All other things a striker brings are just additional.

Finally, if we must do well, we need two potent point, Clinical and unforgiving Strikers who can atleast convert 1 out of every 3 chances created.
I'm sure you're one of those folks that will never accept that Joel really flopped big time in his previous spell in SE... A chance of such magnitude, but he was too ordinary to utilize it. But you're always ready to get at any length to lament about Ighalo's "woes" and "inabilities".

Stop talking as if we have a Xavi and Inieata in midfield, Mr. Ighalo is a proven striker. Really funny how You mention Dessers and co. A Dessers that's struggling for game time at a lowly Utrecht.

No striker in this world would ever find his feet with the current crop of SE midfielders who are only equivalent to amateurs whenever Mikel is not present in the fold. This speech of yours is totally out if place, I must say.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:26pm On Mar 30, 2018
Sainty92:


but the dude is not complaining..neither is the coach..
his time I believe will come.....for now let him stick to the bench...
he is helping in trainings I believe...


This was ur exact statement few days ago about Agbo. Why are u now worried sir?



























I am really now worried bro...
I believe this friendly would have been more useful if the fringe players were left to play...
by so doing who knows we would have found capable replacements for some roles like the striker or midfield role....
against Serbia...watching them being unable to make single pass upfront and the striker couldn't convert one of the few chances he got....leave me worried more....

I believe a population of 180M can do much better..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:32pm On Mar 30, 2018
Sainty92:


but the dude is not complaining..neither is the coach..
his time I believe will come.....for now let him stick to the bench...
he is helping in trainings I believe...


This was ur exact statement few days ago about Agbo. Why are u now worried sir?
]Thank you Sir.

I think some see it as a taboo to criticise Rohr,forgetting that Nigerians have seen different super eagles foreign mangers like Father Tiko,Otto Gloria,Manfred Hoener,Clemens Westerhoff, Bonfrere Jo,Phillipe Trousier,Thijs Libreght,Berti Vogts.

On Agbo continue invitation i still repeat it something is fishing and only Rohr can explain what is really going on,nobody else.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:39pm On Mar 30, 2018
ChrisKels:


If u are in dire need of those crosses then call up the master crosser himself "Samuel Kalu" also bring in Sadiq to nod them in
That Samuel Kalu is the real deal, bro. I can bet that he will either displace someone from the SE or send him to the bench with his current form and quality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:43pm On Mar 30, 2018
darkelf:


Very right bro.

And in addition:

1. We don't present threats to the opposition from set-pieces e.g. free-kicks, corner-kicks et Al


2. It seems that our defense against set-pieces are suspect as well
Our defence struggles against crosses too. And it takes only highly defensively strong teams to deal with crosses. Please watch Germany v Brazil recent friendly that Brazil won 1-0. Germany wan kill Brazil with crosses. Eventually sha it was from a cross that Brazil pipped them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:44pm On Mar 30, 2018
Humility017:


I am really now worried bro...
I believe this friendly would have been more useful if the fringe players were left to play...
by so doing who knows we would have found capable replacements for some roles like the striker or midfield role....
against Serbia...watching them being unable to make single pass upfront and the striker couldn't convert one of the few chances he got....leave me worried more....

I believe a population of 180M can do much better..
Humility017 you are now talking

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mumemma: 7:44pm On Mar 30, 2018
Infact make we change our full squad....Bring this ..bring that ..

Na wa o...Person nor dey lose game
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:49pm On Mar 30, 2018
gbosaa:
Where are Sone Aluko fans?? Reading vs QPR and Reading is 1-0 up. Aluko scored in the 13th min of first half.
Wow!! he's really underated in this thread
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:54pm On Mar 30, 2018
bengine:
Hey guys I just watched that nigeria vs serbia game again with clear head and no tension, I know Joel Obi didn't play that well but I think he has something to offer the team. He wasn't has bad as we are all making it sound like, yes he misplaced some passes but he seem to have a dynamism to his play that Onazi, Ogu, and Agu doesn't have..his set piece wasn't too bad, a few more practise with the team and a better understanding might unfold.

Before you all crucify me,
go on facebook
type green eagles hq,
Search Nigeria Football highlights and
Watch the games again with a clear head, no tension involved.
All of nigeria games in the last one year is on that facebook page..for those that think Echiejile has anything to offer the team, you need to go watch most of our wcq games and you would see for yourself how much he has depreciated. If you think he is still good, tell us what he would offer the team or anything he truly excels at!! I no wan hear he has experience, mikel has experience and that experience does something for the national team we all can see..

Regarding Ebuehi, he tends to shy away from physical battles but he is more technical and reads the play well..him and ekong was just to soft regarding that second goal when that guy dribbled both of them and they didn't foul him. I would give Ebuehi benefit of doubt because I'm still playing actively and I know when you are recovering from groin injuries, you are scared of stretching your legs because of fear of the groin..you need a couple of games that would truly give you confidence its gone..

You could pass fit for a game but a lil snap tackle or stretch could make u feel a little pain there..this would stop you from commiting 100% in tackles..I'm talking from experience regarding this injury, I played for my city, for my university and I constantly struggled with it...Groin injury = minimum of 6weeks to recover and trust me you are not at 100% after 6weeks...I doubt he has had this injury for 3weeks..
Note: you could have a mild groin and still play the game but fear would be all over you..
God bless you bro. Immediately I read that Ebuehi had groin injury, I said to myself what's this groin, groin I've been hearing about since forever. I checked the meaning of groin and I shook my head.
Yesterday in the heat of the argument with my fellow eagulians I kept emphasing two points: the human body is not a machine and I asked another the meaning of groin injury. But I was baffled that them began to talk like they've never been sick and recovered forever in their lives. They took a mechanical view of the whole thing. At a point i wanted to tell them that how I wish we could get the perspective of a footballer cos experience is the best teacher. Never knew you are one. Nobody could argue against the fact that the boy was recovering from an injury. He even winced in pain and he was hesitant in making tackles.

Criticism should be fair. It should not just be for the purpose of scoring cheap points or taking pot shots at the coach as was disappointingly done yesterday.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:59pm On Mar 30, 2018
Kog45:
Humility017 you are now talking
my oga we just have to open up sometimes....
we can't be doing same thing over and over again, in same way and manner and expect a different result....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:00pm On Mar 30, 2018
mumemma:
Infact make we change our full squad....Bring this ..bring that ..

Na wa o...Person nor dey lose game
We don't need to change the full squad but address the grey areas and so far people's comments centred around a good striker,AM and may be keeper,so not too much to ask based on our friendlies performance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:02pm On Mar 30, 2018
Humility017:

my oga we just have to open up sometimes....
we can't be doing same thing over and over again, in same way and manner and expect a different result....
That's it.I think Rohr would do the needful.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:02pm On Mar 30, 2018
lexyman:



please mention the inform strikers we have at the moment .... not strikers in the backwater league.
Ezenwa- NPFL
Uzoho- Spain (2nd Division)
Shehu- Turkey
Ebuehi- Netherland
Ekong- Turkey
Omuero- Turkey
Idowu- Russia
Echiejile- Belgium (2nd Division)
Onazi- Turkey
S. Moses- Belgium
Musa- Russia
Ighalo- China
captain Mikel- China...

If you check the above list of players you'll find out that they play in your so called "BACKWATER LEAGUES" and don't forget that these same players make up the core of the SE.

So, having seen this, why do we make exception rules to other Nigeria players performing in the same leagues as the players given above? Is that not double standard?

We are too quick to run down some monikers here who clamour for the inclusion of players from these same leagues.

It is a known fact that the difference between our players playing in the top 5 leagues across europe and those in the BackWater Leagues is opportunity.

Finally, I won't be reeling out names. Another week of club football is around, our players will be back in action again and I trust Sir. Tbaba1234 to give us updates. Till then na siddon look mode I de.

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