The point you brought on Ebuehi. I was surprised nobody brought that point.. There is also a psychological side just coming from an injury.. I didn't want to join in on that argument.. on the whole Aina should have been brought in earlier. In fact before the friendly a few of us posited here that we needed to make lots of substitutions early enough.. Rohr didn't do that.

bengine:
Hey guys I just watched that nigeria vs serbia game again with clear head and no tension, I know Joel Obi didn't play that well but I think he has something to offer the team. He wasn't has bad as we are all making it sound like, yes he misplaced some passes but he seem to have a dynamism to his play that Onazi, Ogu, and Agu doesn't have..his set piece wasn't too bad, a few more practise with the team and a better understanding might unfold.

Before you all crucify me,
go on facebook
type green eagles hq,
Search Nigeria Football highlights and
Watch the games again with a clear head, no tension involved.
All of nigeria games in the last one year is on that facebook page..for those that think Echiejile has anything to offer the team, you need to go watch most of our wcq games and you would see for yourself how much he has depreciated. If you think he is still good, tell us what he would offer the team or anything he truly excels at!! I no wan hear he has experience, mikel has experience and that experience does something for the national team we all can see..

Regarding Ebuehi, he tends to shy away from physical battles but he is more technical and reads the play well..him and ekong was just to soft regarding that second goal when that guy dribbled both of them and they didn't foul him. I would give Ebuehi benefit of doubt because I'm still playing actively and I know when you are recovering from groin injuries, you are scared of stretching your legs because of fear of the groin..you need a couple of games that would truly give you confidence its gone..

You could pass fit for a game but a lil snap tackle or stretch could make u feel a little pain there..this would stop you from commiting 100% in tackles..I'm talking from experience regarding this injury, I played for my city, for my university and I constantly struggled with it...Groin injury = minimum of 6weeks to recover and trust me you are not at 100% after 6weeks...I doubt he has had this injury for 3weeks..
Note: you could have a mild groin and still play the game but fear would be all over you..

BascoVanVeli:


He had 2 major jobs in the qualifiers Mahrez and Basagog and I will let u answer if he did a great job or not.

So you are saying is sole job is to be man marking..who are you going to man mark at the world cup especially as a left back, you need to be sharp and be able to deal with any threat on your side..he was ok against algeria, made a few tackles that's all..he offered nothing apart from that..modern day LB and RB are required to contribute a lot to the game..can't u see what Shehu does for us. If Echiejile offers half of that, I won't be criticizing him...against cameroun, balogun covered for him a lot..against technical and tactical teams at the world cup, they would exploit echiejile to the fullest..

All have been asking so far is what does Echiejile truly offer the SE presently, we can point any RB on that team and point out what they offer..

Joebie:

hahaha. Of course we prefer him. But would you rather field him?

D cancer won't make him a rookie,he would b only match rusty,just few practice matches in training coupled with 2/3 consecutive games,he would be 50percent OK,and once he's 50percent OK,he would b better Dan uzoho ,even if d latter doesn't sleep at all,all he does his training

AIG07:
SMH @your first paragraph.

To the best of my knowledge, Ighalo has only missed two games in which Mikel didn't play and those matches are the last 2 friendly matches.

The present SEs under Rohr has been creating more chances compared to their predecessors. So you have no excuse for him. Even with Mikel in the team, the burden of goal scoring has been carried and shared by our Wingers and Midfielders and it is not as if he is giving assists.

Lastly. you sound like someone who is insecured. because nowhere in my post did I say Ighalo should be dropped. I only stated need for re-inforcement and on Joel Obi, I have not even said anything on his recent performance in the GWG yet you drew that powerful conclusion based on assumption.

At your second paragraph. SE always struggle to create chances without Mikel. Its an obvious fact

I think if we looked at the team's performance overtime, we would be able to come up with sound logical observations.. Else we'd be moving from one extreme judgement to the other as a result of varying match outcomes. Super Eagles have become a very bad team all of a sudden.. okay!

Humility017:

to be honest....rohr really need to make some drastic changes...it doesn't matter whose ass is goared....

I don't mind having onazi sit on the bench...if that will help us to create more chances upfront....

we really need to learn how to score goals....

It's not like Ikeme was a spectacular keeper when he was hale and hearty. Ikeme on his good day is above average -- not taking anything away from him.

elyte89:




D cancer won't make him a rookie,he would b only match rusty,just few practice matches in training coupled with 2/3 consecutive games,he would be 50percent OK,and once he's 50percent OK,he would b better Dan uzoho ,even if d latter doesn't sleep at all,all he does his training

Joebie:
I think if we looked at the team's performance overtime, we would be able to come up with sound logical observations.. Else we'd be moving from one extreme judgement to the other as a result of varying match outcomes. Super Eagles have become a very bad team all of a sudden.. okay!

nobody is judging the team....
we all are making suggestions on how the team can ne better improved...

or do you like the current state of the team...where they can rarely create a single goal scoring opportunity upfront ?
likewise the strikers mis use goal scoring chances....?

stop trying to act indifferent.....if you're truly a fan of this team....you will agree that there is something that needs to be done.....

If sone aluko can maintain his form till the end of season maybe rohr will look his direction....ceriel dessers u are all won't be invited even post world cup never sure for am

MetalJigsaw:
At your second paragraph. SE always struggle to create chances without Mikel. Its an obvious fact

and You're comfortable with that?
why settle for average when the best is attainable?

we need to work on that seriously and also try out a striker who can better manage this few chances.....trust me nothing can be more frustrating to having a wasteful striker who fails to convert begging chances...

isan:
If sone aluko can maintain his form till the end of season maybe rohr will look his direction....ceriel dessers u are all won't be invited even post world cup never sure for am

because you're in rohr's mind to know that dessers won't be invited.....?
please talk what you know...bro.
right now...let rohr invites whoever he thinks will improve the team...
because June /July there won't be any excuse for failure in Russia

The team will not fail in Russia rohr that i knw don't have time experimenting with new player unless u top top talent like Joel obi I'm sure ajayi must have work his sock off to get 3 minute cameo can u see how nwakaeme was harshly dropped from the team even if dessers get invited he will hardly get game time

Humility017:

because you're in rohr's mind to know that dessers won't be invited.....?
please talk what you know...bro.
right now...let rohr invites whoever he thinks will improve the team...
because June /July there won't be any excuse for failure in Russia

thank you o.....if Desserts as young as he is, cannot get an invite, it is now old man Aluko that Rohr will invite


We are in greater need of a striker than a midfielder or winger. If Rohr needs a winger, he can always revert to Onyekuru that he knows is capable. He doesn't need to dust up Aluko's CV

isan:
The team will not fail in Russia rohr that i knw don't have time experimenting with new player unless u top top talent like Joel obi I'm sure ajayi must have work his sock off to get 3 minute cameo can u see how nwakaeme was harshly dropped from the team even if dessers get invited he will hardly get game time

same goes for Aluko

elyte89:




D cancer won't make him a rookie,he would b only match rusty,just few practice matches in training coupled with 2/3 consecutive games,he would be 50percent OK,and once he's 50percent OK,he would b better Dan uzoho ,even if d latter doesn't sleep at all,all he does his training

how possible is it for him to come back prior the world cup....?
in medicine ....is it possible for that ailment to be healed....

safarigirl:
thank you o.....if Desserts as young as he is, cannot get an invite, it is now old man Aluko that Rohr will invite


We are in greater need of a striker than a midfielder or winger. If Rohr needs a winger, he can always revert to Onyekuru that he knows is capable. He doesn't need to dust up Aluko's CV

the bolded makes me laugh.....
I don't mind if rohr invites him though....all i just want from Mr..rohr is to improve that team especially from the midfield and attack...

let the old man invites those players he believe gonna improve the team...and not keep sticking to some of these mediocre players he keep fielding everytime....

safarigirl:
same goes for Aluko

some peeps see these Serbian loss as an opportunity to start promote their favorite players...even when it is obvious to all that these players they try promote are tired legs...and have nothing new and good to bring to the table...especially those canvassing for obagoal call up...


but Think one of them (aluko and dessers) will likely get an invitee prior the next match....

Aluko is top talent

safarigirl:
same goes for Aluko

But aluko is still very much active getting 90 minute week in week out in a competitive league is not like he is China or Indonesia

safarigirl:
thank you o.....if Desserts as young as he is, cannot get an invite, it is now old man Aluko that Rohr will invite


We are in greater need of a striker than a midfielder or winger. If Rohr needs a winger, he can always revert to Onyekuru that he knows is capable. He doesn't need to dust up Aluko's CV

But aluko is still very much active getting 90 minute week in week out in a competitive league is not like he is in China or Indonesia

safarigirl:
thank you o.....if Desserts as young as he is, cannot get an invite, it is now old man Aluko that Rohr will invite


We are in greater need of a striker than a midfielder or winger. If Rohr needs a winger, he can always revert to Onyekuru that he knows is capable. He doesn't need to dust up Aluko's CV

Humility017:

how possible is it for him to come back prior the world cup....?
in medicine ....is it possible for that ailment to be healed....

Don't rule out PRAYERS,WITH PRAYERS ,All things Are possible

tbaba1234:
Sone Aluko's goal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo9sr1I-oH4

And someone said not good enough for the SE.

Prejudice and double standard.

isan:
But aluko is still very much active getting 90 minute week in week out in a competitive league is not like he is in China or Indonesia

Nwakaeme sef was like that

komekn:


And someone said not good enough for the SE.

Prejudice and double standard.

is he good enough for the 3 Lions?
you seems to call others what you should have call yourself.....
so sorry me sayn this....I am not against aluko invitation though....
but trying to pass him down our throat when you simply cant make Similiar remark in England...same player to be good enough for the 3Lions.
why suggest a mediocre player for the super eagles....because a player not good enough for the 3 Lions I don't expect you foist same player on us....because you're Mr. Objectivity, deviod of prejudice and sentiment on these thread.

I believe we all saw Flavour Uchebo's YouTube clips before the last world cup.
I reckon this world cup will not be too different from the last one from a Nigerian perspective. We never learn.
Calling for new players a "night" before the world cup.

All this talk about invinting new players, I repeat, bearing an injury, Rohr already has his worldcup list.

ykalhaji:
All this talk about invinting new players, I repeat, bearing an injury, Rohr already has his worldcup list.

Exactly.

GOAL KEEPERS

Uzoho
Ezenwa
Akpeyi

DEFENDERS

S. Abdullahi
Awaziem
Aina
Ebuehi
Omeruo
Ekong
Balogun
Idowu

MIDFIELDERS

Etebo
Ogu
Mikel
Ndidi
Onazi
J.Obi

FORWARDS

Iheanacho
Ighalo
Musa
Moses
Simon
Iwobi

safarigirl:
thank you o.....if Desserts as young as he is, cannot get an invite, it is now old man Aluko that Rohr will invite


We are in greater need of a striker than a midfielder or winger. If Rohr needs a winger, he can always revert to Onyekuru that he knows is capable. He doesn't need to dust up Aluko's CV

I disagree. We need creativity. Someone that can slide a through ball. Nacho is a superb finisher. Ighalo contrary to what is being said isn't that bad at holding up play. His link up play is ok. If we can get both - fine. But a midfielder is very crucial.

Mujtahida:

Truly Sir If he underperforms without any hint of injury surely he should be criticized but because of the fact that he was recovering I'm saying though we criticise him let's not totally overlook that fact. I'm not even saying he should not be criticized.

Omaye .... Me I no dey your back for this one o!..

Once declared fit for a match and you play, the jury is out on you.

The jury will careless about any lingering pains you might still have which can inhibit your game a little.

So even when declared fit when you know within yourself that you are not yet up to 100% fitness and running... Baba you will do yourself a world of good if you declare yourself unfit for the match so that your spot will be given to a fit player and save yourself from embarrassment while maintaining your dignity.

Just look at how many folks once hailing Ebuehi here are now calling for his head including Muah ... . All because according to you,' he isn't fit'.. Ebuehi was far below standard on the night, it could be due to recuperation.., it could be due to fitness, ...it could be due to ability... Heck! It could be due to one reason or the other BUT read my lips.... THE FANS DON'T CARE!!!... All we know is that Ebuehi was atrocious that night, his wing let in two goals, and we will not condone such a performance.. NEVER!!

Mujtahida:

God bless you bro. Immediately I read that Ebuehi had groin injury, I said to myself what's this groin, groin I've been hearing about since forever. I checked the meaning of groin and I shook my head.
Yesterday in the heat of the argument with my fellow eagulians I kept emphasing two points: the human body is not a machine and I asked another the meaning of groin injury. But I was baffled that them began to talk like they've never been sick and recovered forever in their lives. They took a mechanical view of the whole thing. At a point i wanted to tell them that how I wish we could get the perspective of a footballer cos experience is the best teacher. Never knew you are one. Nobody could argue against the fact that the boy was recovering from an injury. He even winced in pain and he was hesitant in making tackles.

Criticism should be fair. It should not just be for the purpose of scoring cheap points or taking pot shots at the coach as was disappointingly done yesterday.

Groin is a nasty injury...for those that don't know groinn, its the muscle that separates your thighs from your blocus...a mild groin won't stop you from running at full speed, its the stretching or routines that requires quick snaps that gets you...there was no way Ebuehi healed that groin fully in 3weeks but I guess he didn't want someone else to be invited in his place for the friendly..same thing as what etebo did..they wanna force themselves play the friendly..

elyte89:




D cancer won't make him a rookie,he would b only match rusty,just few practice matches in training coupled with 2/3 consecutive games,he would be 50percent OK,and once he's 50percent OK,he would b better Dan uzoho ,even if d latter doesn't sleep at all,all he does his training

O boy this your sentence is present impossible tense.

Just pray Ikeme even goes back to professional football after this whole thing.

Kog45:
The Law kai you are still on it.

I played the game very well and to declare a player fit for a match is not something done by the coach but medical team.

If a player is certified fit,coach will asked the player can you do it and if the player say Yes,then the player don't have any excuse for poor performance.

I know if Serbia match was official,nobody would give excuse for Ebuehi performance.

Bro Ebuehi performance wasn't the best..I think he played with fear and was a little hesitant..you remember Ebuehi failed last minute test b4 his last game for club. The medical team makes you stretch your muscles and give you some routine that if you are hiding injury, they would discover it. I'm sure that his muscle is at least 80% healed but he doesn't have to be at 100% to pass a fitness test bro..I have passed so much fitness test because I wan play and I know I'm not at 100%..

groin injury is pretty unique, if you have hamstring, them no born u well, how you wan run. If you have ankle injury, how u wan shoot or pass..if you have thigh injury how u wan pass or run...but if you have MILD groin, you could pass a fitness test..mild groin doesn't stop you from running or shooting or passing..its when you stretch or snap tackle, that's when u engage those crazy muscles..i doubt Ebuehi was at 100% knowing how groin injuries operate..there is no way he pulled those muscles 2 weeks ago and he is back at 100%..

realpoacher:


Omaye .... Me I no dey your back for this one o!..

Once declared fit for a match and you play, the jury is out on you.

The jury will careless about any lingering pains you might still have which can inhibit your game a little.

So even when declared fit when you know within yourself that you are not yet up to 100% fitness and running... Baba you will do yourself a world of good if you declare yourself unfit for the match so that your spot will be given to a fit player and save yourself from embarrassment while maintaining your dignity.

Just look at how many folks once hailing Ebuehi here are now calling for his head including Muah ... . All because according to you,' he isn't fit'.. Ebuehi was far below standard on the night, it could be due to recuperation.., it could be due to fitness, ...it could be due to ability... Heck! It could be due to one reason or the other BUT read my lips.... THE FANS DON'T CARE!!!... All we know is that Ebuehi was atrocious that night, his wing let in two goals, and we will not condone such a performance.. NEVER!!

Please read what Bengine wrote.