I keep on saying it Hazard isn't as good as we think... We should fucking sell Hazard now that he still got value, use the cash and get isco, Leon Bailey and Lemar... Hazard just can't get better than this because he isn't a leader and that's sad.

patrickmuf:
Away from football, if you're a good chess player and you're registered on chess.com, drop your username for a game...

Not registered on any website and don't do online games, but anytime you feel you are a guru in chess, hit me up let me clear your doubts.

Just get some Ibuprofen and clorefenac to douse the pains my beatings come with.

MaziOmenuko:


Not registered on any website and don't do online games, but anytime you feel you are a guru in chess, hit me up let me clear your doubts.

Just get some Ibuprofen and clorefenac to douse the pains my beatings come with.

You play chess? Been a long time I dealt with a fish from Nigeria. Would be nice to spank some agony into your brain especially a scummie one. That goes also to you patrickmuf.

I play draft o.

Dem born una well, come test me. Let me show you why I was the hood champion in 2001.

Nihilstjnr:
I play draft o.

Dem born una well, come test me. Let me show you why I was the hood champion in 2001.

them dey talk chess u dey talk draft, na ayó ölöpön u for talk. Ancient man

Nihilstjnr:
I play draft o.

Dem born una well, come test me. Let me show you why I was the hood champion in 2001.

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I'll whoop you silly.

pkasso:
I swear Hazard dey fall hand. He's a player I admire a lot. Amazing bundle of talent but just lacking that 'killer' mentality to take his game to the next level.

I remember watching those games against Barca and being thoroughly disappointed. The lesser talented Willian balled over two legs while Eden was well. . hidden. That was a big chance to put haters like Ramuzaki to shame but he failed.
Real Madrid are not convinced he is worth going for. Ordinarily, you would expect Bayern to consider Hazard in their search for top-class replacements for Robbery but he has been ignored and rightly so. Barca were not interested even after selling Neymar.

Ramuzaki comes here to chat shiit about Hazard and unreasonable as he might sound sometimes, he's not far from the truth. Hazard needs to do better.

And anyone who after all these years still thinks Hazard is as good as Neymar needs to have their head checked.

I rubber stamp this. As much as it pains me to admit Hazard is just not yet on that level of Neymar, Muller etc . This days he seem not to be interested in the team.

“It just dawns on you sometimes: how many times does he make runs past the central striker anymore?” Neville said on his latest podcast. “How many times does he make what I would call the Freddie Ljungberg run, you could call them the Ji-Sung Park run, you could call them the Leroy Sane run, Raheem Sterling’s doing it - the runs that you make four or five times a half as a wide player or a winger that nine times out of 10 you don’t get the ball but you’ve got to keep making that run.

“Hazard has stopped making that run. It’s a tough run because you don’t always get the ball a lot and sometimes it’s a decoy run but… Dele Alli made it for the goal.''


I said it beore that the dude had stopped what he was doing last season. He's no more with us. It's not a quality issue as opined by some people.

He should be benched for couple of matches and sold by summer. Those making stupid decisions on our transfers should be fired, before they turn Chelsea to Leeds utd.

airmark:
“It just dawns on you sometimes: how many times does he make runs past the central striker anymore?” Neville said on his latest podcast. “How many times does he make what I would call the Freddie Ljungberg run, you could call them the Ji-Sung Park run, you could call them the Leroy Sane run, Raheem Sterling’s doing it - the runs that you make four or five times a half as a wide player or a winger that nine times out of 10 you don’t get the ball but you’ve got to keep making that run.

“Hazard has stopped making that run. It’s a tough run because you don’t always get the ball a lot and sometimes it’s a decoy run but… Dele Alli made it for the goal.''


I said it beore that the dude had stopped what he was doing last season. He's no more with us. It's not a quality issue as opined by some people.

He should be benched for couple of matches and sold by summer. Those making stupid decisions on our transfers should be fired, before they turn Chelsea to Leeds utd.

To be fair, Hazard doesnt actually make that many runs. I think Ibime was calling him out on this a long time ago.

I think Gary Neville has missed the point with Hazard - That guy isn't interested in scoring goals. He has kuku said it himself 100 times.

Instead of attacking space and waiting for somebody to pass him the ball for a tap in, Hazard naturally wants the ball played to feet so that he can run at players.

He's a creator not a finisher. He will never be one either. I have now made my peace with this.

I think for next season if we must keep Hazard, we need to go and look for people capable of making those runs. Pedro instead of Willian. An Aguero type of sharp striker.

That's what Liverpool have with Salah. Mane plays quite similarly to Hazard. All Salah does is relentless attack the space.

MaziOmenuko:


Not registered on any website and don't do online games, but anytime you feel you are a guru in chess, hit me up let me clear your doubts.

Just get some Ibuprofen and clorefenac to douse the pains my beatings come with.

Where are you presently?

airmark:
“It just dawns on you sometimes: how many times does he make runs past the central striker anymore?” Neville said on his latest podcast. “How many times does he make what I would call the Freddie Ljungberg run, you could call them the Ji-Sung Park run, you could call them the Leroy Sane run, Raheem Sterling’s doing it - the runs that you make four or five times a half as a wide player or a winger that nine times out of 10 you don’t get the ball but you’ve got to keep making that run.

“Hazard has stopped making that run. It’s a tough run because you don’t always get the ball a lot and sometimes it’s a decoy run but… Dele Alli made it for the goal.''


I said it beore that the dude had stopped what he was doing last season. He's no more with us. It's not a quality issue as opined by some people.

He should be benched for couple of matches and sold by summer. Those making stupid decisions on our transfers should be fired, before they turn Chelsea to Leeds utd.

Sensible post. M u m u(s) think it’s talent issue.

Nihilstjnr:


To be fair, Hazard doesnt actually make that many runs. I think Ibime was calling him out on this a long time ago.

I think Gary Neville has missed the point with Hazard - That guy isn't interested in scoring goals. He has kuku said it himself 100 times.

Instead of attacking space and waiting for somebody to pass him the ball for a tap in, Hazard naturally wants the ball played to feet so that he can run at players.

He's a creator not a finisher. He will never be one either. I have now made my peace with this.

I think for next season if we must keep Hazard, we need to go and look for people capable of making those runs. Pedro instead of Willian. An Aguero type of sharp striker.

That's what Liverpool have with Salah. Mane plays quite similarly to Hazard. All Salah does is relentless attack the space.

true, hazard does not make many runs for a tap in, but the runs have reduced.

But, that being said, does Chelsea really play like that? Does Chelsea have an efficient attacking pattern like the way they have for defending? For the past few years, how many of our strikers goals are tap ins, talk less of wide midfielders? If hazard is to make a run for a tap in, who will make an effective cross or cut back for a tap in? I have seen many times hazard and many of our strikers have made a good run for a tap in, but the players that are supposed to cross the ball for the tap in will elect to shoot, delay to cross or not cross at all. Then, many times they end up shooting at the player in front of them. You see?

Chelsea have a fundamental problem of a playing pattern and continuity.
I can't think of a manager now that will not be sacked in Chelsea in more than three seasons.

Chelsea does not have a pattern of play. It is changing every 2 seasons and players are forced to adapt.
This is why I will continue to respect players like azpi and hazard that have shone in the team of every coach that has come to the club.

If Liverpool sack kloop today and hire Mourinho, Liverpool fans may start calling salah a fraud and one season wonder if they don't look at the issue critically to see the underlying cause.
Chelsea needs a change of mentality in the management for some of our players to stop looking like fraud to us after putting up great performances after the signing of a new coach. Performances that were inspired by new motivation of trying to impress the new boss and play in his team.

airmark:
Ramdeuter :

'Boathand led Bayern to Ucl victory'

'Robben led Bayern to Ucl victory'

'Neuer led Bayern to Ucl victory'

'Muller led Bayern to Ucl victory'

'Lahm led Bayern to Ucl victory'

'Ribery led Bayern to Ucl victory'


The above statements, is the reason ambitious players will strive to join teams, where most players are leaders on the pitch.

In Hazards time at Chelsea there have been many good and ambitious players he was the one letting them down

In Chelsea Hazard has played with Mata, Kante Costa Azpi, Cashley Alonso Cortouis etc yet Hazard has always been mediocre.

No be this same thread people been dey tell us say 9 Chelsea players will make Bayern team in 2014? Now suddenly na ambitionless players dey the same Chelsea? A40 is God not good?

hensben:
So you expect Hazard to be winning ucl with Chelsea or World Cup with Belgium of yesterday. It take Germany how many semi and final to win one in this 21st century. You are to be ashamed of yourself since you refused to use your head. Football is not lawn tennis. Where is Neymar now in ucl like in his Barca days.

How many semi finals or finals has Hazard taken his teams Belgium and Chelsea? The only semi Chelsea struggled to make, Hazard was the one responsible for their ouster

Neymar was injured in the CL and without Barca Neymar has won the confed cup Olympics and made the world cup semi playing with Ramiez Oscar and Willian the same players you all call useless when they are playing with Hazard

pamcode:
I rubber stamp this. As much as it pains me to admit Hazard is just not yet on that level of Neymar, Muller etc . This days he seem not to be interested in the team.

This is not about interest its about talent. Everyone can use the interest excuse. Victor Moses will also say he is not interested else he would have been Cafu

airmark:
“I said it beore that the dude had stopped what he was doing last season. He's no more with us. It's not a quality issue as opined by some people.

He should be benched for couple of matches and sold by summer. Those making stupid decisions on our transfers should be fired, before they turn Chelsea to Leeds utd.

It takes a player with football sense and vision to make those runs. That is where players like Ronaldo are ahead of everyone they see moves, Hazard cannot see in the brightest sunlight.

Its simply quality, Hazard lacks the quality to make those runs and like nihilist told you, he hardly makes those runs at his entire time in Chelsea.

Hazard is the typical monkey post player who thinks by dribbling everyone and counting torros making people shout is football, He has refused to understand that ball moves faster than human

Modern elite players barely dribble anyone unless its compulsory. rather they make use of passes and space. Xavi Messi Ronaldo KDB are some of the names you will mention when talking of modern elite players they barely dribble unless its necesary. Unlike Hazard Quaresma Ikedia and co whose goal on the field is to dribble and count the number of take ons

Nihilstjnr:
To be fair, Hazard doesnt actually make that many runs. I think Ibime was calling him out on this a long time ago.

I think Gary Neville has missed the point with Hazard - That guy isn't interested in scoring goals. He has kuku said it himself 100 times.

Instead of attacking space and waiting for somebody to pass him the ball for a tap in, Hazard naturally wants the ball played to feet so that he can run at players.

He's a creator not a finisher. He will never be one either. I have now made my peace with this.

I think for next season if we must keep Hazard, we need to go and look for people capable of making those runs. Pedro instead of Willian. An Aguero type of sharp striker.

That's what Liverpool have with Salah. Mane plays quite similarly to Hazard. All Salah does is relentless attack the space.

I dont think its an interest thing, I think its a talent thing. How can you watch Ronaldo, Messi and say I am not interested in scoring goals? The times Hazard was in rich form, and scoring he definitely enjoyed it, The reason he isn't doing it regularly is because his talent cannot take him to that level.

Sallah wasnt scoring buckets of goals before, he learnt improved and pushed himself to be scoring.

Also Hazard release of the ball is too slow because he thrives in all those monkey post takeons. Look at last Sundays game, the last move before half time, Hazard broke, Morata was in the box, Hazard braked and did some slight shakushaku dance before squaring the ball

When you now watch City the day before, See the one time balls KDB Silva were threading for those goals, They didnt wait extra touches or dribble anyone, The KDB assist, he wasnt even comfortable but he made it his goal to release the ball to striker one time and get the ball moving. The 3rd goal when Silva broke, if that was Hazard he could have taken some touches, braked, done some dadubule dance disgrace the on rushing defender and get some claps and miss the easy pass to Sterling

The leap Ronaldo made in 2005 from the dribbler to the ultimate modern footballer he is now, Is where Hazard talent met a brickwall

raumdeuter:


I dont think its an interest thing, I think its a talent thing. How can you watch Ronaldo, Messi and say I am not interested in scoring goals? The times Hazard was in rich form, and scoring he definitely enjoyed it, The reason he isn't doing it regularly is because his talent cannot take him to that level.

Sallah wasnt scoring buckets of goals before, he learnt improved and pushed himself to be scoring.

Also Hazard release of the ball is too slow because he thrives in all those monkey post takeons. Look at last Sundays game, the last move before half time, Hazard broke, Morata was in the box, Hazard braked and did some slight shakushaku dance before squaring the ball

When you now watch City the day before, See the one time balls KDB Silva were threading for those goals, They didnt wait extra touches or dribble anyone, The KDB assist, he wasnt even comfortable but he made it his goal to release the ball to striker one time and get the ball moving

The leap Ronaldo made in 2005 from the dribbler to the ultimate modern footballer he is now, Is where Hazard talent met a brickwall

I insist it's a mentality thing, not a talent thing.

You cannot see Hazard finishing with aplomb and claim he doesn't know how to finish.

he just likes to run with the ball too much.

hensben:
Sensible post. M u m u(s) think it’s talent issue.

Its not like I don't have the talent to score like Messi/Ronaldo/Sallah but I am not just interested ..... said a loser

Its not that I dont have the talent to make money like Dangote its just that I am not interested

Nihilstjnr:
I insist it's a mentality thing, not a talent thing.

You cannot see Hazard finishing with aplomb and claim he doesn't know how to finish.

he just likes to run with the ball too much.

That is what we call small pikin football. Running with the ball. First thing they teach you in an academy is pass moves faster than human.

Any player who likes to run with the ball after more than 4yrs in football is a useless player nd simply lacks the talent.

Its obvious that the results are very different when you pass and move vs when you run, if you simply refuse to see it or use it its either you are born to be a loser or dont have the talents to do it

Anyone can finish with aplomb randomly, or even do one spectacular thing one or two times, Doing it consistently is what proves you

raumdeuter:


Its not like I don't have the talent to score like Messi/Ronaldo/Sallah but I am not just interested ..... said a loser

Its not that I dont have the talent to make money like Dangote its just that I am not interested

Like Hazard haven’t delivered in the past. He do not have the hunger to play for Chelsea anymore. Simple.

hensben:
Like Hazard haven’t delivered in the past. He do not have the hunger to play for Chelsea anymore. Simple.

Delivered in which past? World cup or CL? You are not forgetting this guy has 4 goals in his entire CL career from open play. Ben Yedder scored half of that in 10mins vs Man Utd. If Hazard doesnt leave Chelsea there is a high likelihood that the next time he will play CL is 2019/2020 when he is 29yrs old with 4 CL gols from open play

Any useless player too can come up with the hunger excuse. You know what? Marko Marin could have been better than Messi he just doesnt have the hunger thirst abi na stavation or famine

Nihilstjnr:


To be fair, Hazard doesnt actually make that many runs. I think Ibime was calling him out on this a long time ago.

I think Gary Neville has missed the point with Hazard - That guy isn't interested in scoring goals. He has kuku said it himself 100 times.

Instead of attacking space and waiting for somebody to pass him the ball for a tap in, Hazard naturally wants the ball played to feet so that he can run at players.

He's a creator not a finisher. He will never be one either. I have now made my peace with this.

I think for next season if we must keep Hazard, we need to go and look for people capable of making those runs. Pedro instead of Willian. An Aguero type of sharp striker.

That's what Liverpool have with Salah. Mane plays quite similarly to Hazard. All Salah does is relentless attack the space.

Last season he improved on that and they got him many goals. I can list like 9 goals he scored last season that were as a result of his runs into the goal area, not even talking about the assists. The hunger has strangely subsided, Neville wasn't wrong.

Both goals that he scored against city last season was as a result of the runs, which have been missing this term. The hunger is gone, the talent is there.

Refresh yourself with his last season's highlights below and compare with what he has been serving recently.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxyQKFXzuXY&t=34s

Even when they criticize Pius they still make excuses for him. Interest ko, Principal ni.
If Odonkor had interest in passing and scoring goals he woluld have been as good as Messi, if Harrison Omokoh had interest he would have been as good as Nesta.

Making runs behind the defence is not only by interest, if not everybody would be doing it. Frank Lampard, Dele Alli have the talent to know when to make the run and they see the space before others, that is why they score those goals.

Passing the ball with speed, accuracy and the correct timing is not just by interest, it requires a level of skill and football intelligence. That was Xavi's talent, Hazard's talent is drimbling, same as Stanley Okoro, Phillip Osondu, Lomana Lua Lua and his namesake Pius Ikedia.

raumdeuter:


Chelsea is bigger than Marseille and Chelsea is a big club like Bayern. Ribery led Bayern to the CL title what has Hazard done in a big club like Chelsea in the CL

Hazard is probably waiting to join a club like real madrid with multiple ucl trophies to win them another CL title just as Ribery waited to join bayern Munich with multiple ucl titles too.

raumdeuter:


In Hazards time at Chelsea there have been many good and ambitious players he was the one letting them down

In Chelsea Hazard has played with Mata, Kante Costa Azpi, Cashley Alonso Cortouis etc yet Hazard has always been mediocre.

No be this same thread people been dey tell us say 9 Chelsea players will make Bayern team in 2014? Now suddenly na ambitionless players dey the same Chelsea? A40 is God not good?

How many world cup winners are in the highlighted? In another argument, you will start asking us what those ones have won in their lives, to be better than craps like Boathand and co.

raumdeuter:


Its simply quality, Hazard lacks the quality to make those runs and like nihilist told you, he hardly makes those runs at his entire time in Chelsea.

Over half of his goals last season was scored as a result of his runs inside the box. The goals he scored against the two Manchester teams were as a result of his runs. Maybe it was whirlwind that took him to those positions.

popizaino:
Hazard is probably waiting to join a club like real madrid with multiple ucl trophies to win them another CL title just as Ribery waited to join bayern Munich with multiple ucl titles too.

How many players at Bayern had won the CL before Ribery joined in 2007? When Ribery joined Bayern we were actually going to play in the UEFA cup. Ribery wasn't waiting to be carried like a cripple to the trophy. He actually was one of the team best player when we won the CL

airmark:


How many world cup winners are in the highlighted? In another argument, you will start asking us what those ones have won in their lives, to be better than craps like Boathand and co.

As at 2013 how many Bayern players were world cup winners? Do they give birth to world cup winners? Or do people win world cup from their mothers belly? Is it not their effort that turned Lahm, Boateng, Schweini Muller to world cup winners?

If Boateng was not delivering top performance in the world cup final do you think he will be a world cup winner? If Muller was not scoring 5 goals per world cup will he be a world cup winner?

Let Hazard continue his useless 2 left legged football and be whoring himself all over for world cup winners to carry his liability

raumdeuter:


That is what we call small pikin football. Running with the ball. First thing they teach you in an academy is pass moves faster than human.

Any player who likes to run with the ball after more than 4yrs in football is a useless player nd simply lacks the talent.

Its obvious that the results are very different when you pass and move vs when you run, if you simply refuse to see it or use it its either you are born to be a loser or dont have the talents to do it

Anyone can finish with aplomb randomly, or even do one spectacular thing one or two times, Doing it consistently is what proves you

i don't know the point you are trying to make with this post. The hazard i know is also very good in one touch football, something that he has stated that he enjoys doing after that match against Brighton that he combined with bats and willian for the Willian goal. The question is, does Chelsea have players that like to play one touch?
The last two players that played like for Chelsea are mata and lamps. You can see the number of assists and chances hazard created then.

Aside that, hazard still ranks high in key passes in the league every season even without setpiece. So, your argument of whether he is dribbling with the ball or passing it does not hold water.









We had 14 shots to Tottenham’s 12, but the visitors mustered seven on target compared to four of our efforts, all of which came in the first half.
Willian and Marcos Alonso had a joint game-high three attempts for us.
We had a 48.7 per cent share of possession and completed 384 of our 494 passes. No player made more successful ones for us than
N’Golo Kante ’s 51. Antonio Rudiger was next with 47. Mousa Dembele and Eric Dier, with 56 each, made the most overall.
When it came to key passes, Eden Hazard’s six was three times more than anyone else on the pitch. The Belgian also completed a game-high four dribbles.
The teams were evenly matched aerially, winning 13 duels apiece. Alvaro Morata and Dele Alli topped that list with four each.
Kante made seven successful tackles, with
Antonio Rudiger winning five and Cesar Azpilicueta four. Kante ’s six interceptions was also a game-high figure.
It is the first time we have lost a home game having taken the lead since 1 April 2017, exactly a year before.

hensben:
Sensible post. M u m u(s) think it’s talent issue.

Not a talent issue at all. Only fools will say that. Neville was spot on, i had been criticizing Hazard on this before last season that he improved on it. Now it's appalling.




See how he left Valencia glued as he ran into the box to score below, against the so-called best keeper around:

[img]https:///media/10-23-2016/s6pwLD.gif[/img]

We had 14 shots to Tottenham’s 12, but the visitors mustered seven on target compared to four of our efforts, all of which came in the first half.
Willian and Marcos Alonso had a joint game-high three attempts for us.
We had a 48.7 per cent share of possession and completed 384 of our 494 passes. No player made more successful ones for us than
N’Golo Kante ’s 51. Antonio Rudiger was next with 47. Mousa Dembele and Eric Dier, with 56 each, made the most overall.
When it came to key passes, Eden Hazard’s six was three times more than anyone else on the pitch. The Belgian also completed a game-high four dribbles.
The teams were evenly matched aerially, winning 13 duels apiece. Alvaro Morata and Dele Alli topped that list with four each.
Kante made seven successful tackles, with
Antonio Rudiger winning five and Cesar Azpilicueta four. Kante ’s six interceptions was also a game-high figure.
It is the first time we have lost a home game having taken the lead since 1 April 2017, exactly a year before.

raumdeuter:


Tell us what international trophy hidden Hazard has won in his entire football career or final he made

Ribery made a world cup final, and won a CL. What has hazard ever done in his entire career

with your logic just accept Gattuso is better than micheal ballack.


The germany midfielder is an overrated piece of shit.