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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 7:21am On Apr 03, 2018
BERNIMOORE:
To ba ra igba fun e ko ra awo, Won ni amukun o Eru re ma wo Lori Amukun ni ati isale in eru oun to Wo, eyin alaini irony wonyi, Ogunde ti kuku sepe fun awon odale oni "Yoruba ronu". If Oluwo of Iwo is not a traitor and a Muslim fanatic, A useful Idiot' and an Accursed Fulani slave, why following the coward ilorin pattern? No wonder FFk bash you guys together, stop thinking you can talk for Yoruba, we Christian s knew how desperate Muslims can be but they will soon meet their waterloo

Oo ni laakaye. Ti o ba ni laakaye ni o ye ki o ye e wipe kii se ori thread ti omo Igbo shi lati fi maa soro si awa Yoruba loye ki o ti ma so gbogbo eleyi.


Ti o ba ni laakaye ni, o ye ki o mo wipe a ni lati koko le kolokolo lo na ki a to ma ba adiye wi.


If you don't understand the proverb in that last statement give it to an interpreter ki o tunmo e fun e.


You aren't the only Yoruba who is a Christian on this forum, mind you.

Ti a ba ta ara ile eni ni opo a o le ri ra pada ni owon. (Another proverb)


Awa wi tai wi o wa so wipe ki Yoruba ronu. Se iwo ronu bayi. Ti o ba ronu jinle wa ri wipe awon omo Igbo fe fi esin ko eyin omo Yoruba si ara won.


We know the ploy of the recalcitrant Yoruba bashers, especially of Igbo origin on this forum.


Their constant use of the phrase " Yoruba Moslems" gives them away as being jealous of the peace that exists in Yorubaland and so, they want to employ the use of divide and conquer tactic.


The Oluwo of Iwo land should be deposed and the crown given to someone else since he doesn't want to be the Oluwo anymore.


That's my submission. And if you're going to make your point, you should open another thread for it. Latching yourself to this thread to insult your fellow Yorubas because of religion shows that YOU are the traitor and you've allowed this fool of an op who despises everything Yoruba to convince you that Yorubas are indeed different because of religion.


You can see the way they've been jumping up and down since the news broke and you thought he actually opened this thread to sympathize with you.


O din ojo kan leni ti awon omo Igbo, awon irankiran maa te ni ile Yoruba. Wo n je, wo n mu, wo n yo faalala ni ile Yoruba bi idun ti o bo sori aatan, won wa n yo suti ete si wa.

Iwo wa nn gbeja won, nitori esin abi nitori omo Igbo ti o n fe abi? Se omo Yoruba to daju ni iwo yii sha?


The Rwandan war between the Hutu and the Tutsi will be child's play when sh1t hits the fan.

Let them continue. Je ki won maa baa lo.

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Obdk: 9:19am On Apr 03, 2018
Westbestside:
Can people still begging for freedom liberate others?

ur case is pathetic because u dont kno u r a slave.
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by bluke(m): 10:35am On Apr 03, 2018
BishopMagic:

How Yoruba Muslims Sacked Old Oyo And Will Do Same For All Odua

Ilorin was a small town in the Oyo Empire by the beginning of the 19th century. Afonja, Baale of Ilorin, who also held the title of Are Ona Kakanfo of the Oyo Empire, rebelled against his king, the Alafin of Oyo, in 1817. (There is no space here for the reasons for his rebellion). In order to sustain his rebellion, he was desperate to build a large and powerful army. To that end, he did a number of desperate things.

First, he invited the people of nearby villages to move to Ilorin and turn Ilorin into a large town. Many people so moved, but most refused.

Secondly, he reached out to many prominent friends all over the Oyo country, and invited them to come and live in Ilorin. Some accepted his invitation and came. Among these was a rich trader named Solagberu from Kuwo. Another was a man named Alimi, a Fulani man who had long lived in the Oyo country peddling charms from town to town. Afonja employed Alimi to make charms for him and his army.

Thirdly, Afonja decided to exploit a religious situation that was causing trouble in the country at the time. A Jihad movement had started in Hausaland in the north in 1804, generating wars and stormy Islamic evangelism there. It was started and led by an immigrant people called Fulani. The Fulani immigrants were few among the large Hausa nation, but very many of the Hausa who were already Muslims sided with the Fulani – and thus made it possible for the Fulani to defeat the ancient Hausa kings and make themselves rulers over Hausaland.

Some of the violent Jihadist preachers trickled south into the Oyo country. Everywhere they came, they were causing a lot of commotion by preaching violent and disrespectful sermons against the Oyo kings and chiefs, and against Yoruba culture in general. Yoruba people, with their tradition of religious tolerance, were alarmed; and angry crowds began to attack the preachers. Afonja decided to exploit the situation by issuing a general invitation to the Muslims to flee to him in Ilorin, promising to give them protection there. Thousands of frightened Muslims fled to Ilorin, and Afonja trained many of them for his army. (Afonja himself did not intend to convert to Islam, and he never did).

Fourthly, most rich Oyo families had Hausa, Nupe and Fulani slaves - used mostly in farming, trading, livestock rearing, etc. Most were Muslims.

Afonja decided to exploit this also. He issued a proclamation saying that if any slaves ran away from their owners and came to him in Ilorin, he would give them freedom and protection there. Large numbers of slaves, mostly Hausa, fled to Afonja, and he trained some of them for his army.

Afonja thus had his large town and large army. Most of his army’s commanders and soldiers were Oyo Muslims. A few of the soldiers were Muslim Hausa – all slaves recently set free by Afonja. But many of his Hausa soldiers were unruly. He warned or threatened them repeatedly, but with no result. When he at last decided to discipline them, they mutinied. Afonja was killed in the mutiny - in 1823.

Meanwhile, while Alimi had been making charms for the army, he had become a friend to many of the Oyo commanders who were Muslims, and these hadmade him Imam (Islamic teacher and preacher) for the Muslim community in the army. After Afonja›s death, the same friends gradually made their Imam the ruler of Ilorin. They also created some officers among the Hausa soldiers - for instance, Balogun Gambari. The powerful men doing all these things were Oyo.

That then is how Oyo people made a Fulani man the ruler of Ilorin. When Alimi died, his elder son, Abdulsalam, was elevated to his father’s position by his father›s powerful Oyo Muslim friends. Adulsalam had lived in the Jihad in Hausaland and had only recently come to live with his father in Ilorin. He knew that the Jihad had made the Fulani the rulers of Ilorin - with a Fulani Sultanate based in Sokoto and quasi-independent Fulani Emirs in the separate Hausa kingdoms. So, after he was made ruler of Ilorin, he sent to Hausaland to announce that he had established an Emirate in Ilorin and to ask that his Emirate should be accepted as part of the Fulani Sultanate.

In this way, Ilorin became a Fulani Emirate, ruled by a Fulani family.

Ilorin was, in population, still an Oyo town - probably over 95% Oyo in population. And Ilorin was never conquered or even invaded by any Fulani army. Those influential Oyo men who made Alimi and his son the rulers of Ilorin did so out of fervour for their Islamic faith.

When the news of the happenings in Ilorin spread all over the Oyo country, people were shocked to hear that Ilorin people had made the family of an obscure Fulani charm peddler their rulers. Therefore, people formed armies to go and subdue Ilorin and flush out the Fulani impostors. None of these invasions of Ilorin succeeded. The invading armies were poorly organized, and, moreover, the old Afonja army defending Ilorin was just too powerful. In fact, in the end, the Ilorin people, in order to ensure perfect protection for their fervently Muslim town, decided to go out and conquer most of Yorubaland (all the way to the sea coast), and make all of it a Muslim empire ruled from Ilorin.

Their army marched out in about 1838, conquering town after town towards the south, and causing mammoth streams of refugees. Till today, most Yoruba people still call this Ilorin invasion a Fulani invasion of Yorubaland. But it was not a Fulani invasion at all; it was an attempt by the predominantly Yoruba Muslim people of Ilorin to conquer and Islamize the rest of Yorubaland.

The victorious Ilorin march southwards ended suddenly in 1840. The refugees who had gathered in the Egba village of Ibadan had quickly become a large town. Their army marched out and met the Ilorin army in Oshogbo in 1840, and totally destroyed them, capturing many of their commanders. From then on, the power of Ilorin was more or less over, and Ilorin never dared again to face the Ibadan army in battle.

In the following years, Ibadan became the most powerful state in Yorubaland, and established control over the Oshun valley, Ife, Ijesa, Ekiti, Akoko, Igbomina and parts of Iyagba. Ilorin continued to be ambitious to control some territory in its immediate neighbourhood – in nearby Igbomina and Ibolo (especially Offa); but they feared Ibadan. In 1877, the Ekiti, Ijesa, Igbomina and Akoko revolted against Ibadan’s rule, and the Kiriji War started, keeping all these peoples and Ibadan busy until 1893. Ilorin took advantage of this and established some feeble control over parts of Igbomina and Ibolo.

However, at home in Ilorin itself, a proper Emirate could not develop. The powerful Yoruba war chiefs wanted to re-establish the traditional Yoruba political system whereby the chiefs in a kingdom select their king. The Emirs resisted. By 1895, the chiefs were winning the contest grandly – a situation which forced the Emir Momoh to commit suicide after setting his palace on fire. The victorious chiefs then installed Sulaiman as Emir. This was the situation when the forces of the British Royal Niger Company came and conquered Ilorin in 1897.

In the years that followed, it was the British that established Ilorin as a full-fledged emirate, making the Ilorin Emir like the Emirs of Hausaland. The Emir then took advantage of that to establish all sorts of Emirate-type control over Ibolo and northern Igbomina.

In short, Ilorin was never conquered (was never even invaded) by the Fulani. Ilorin is more than 90% Yoruba in population. The Igbomina, Ibolo, and Ekiti of Kwara, because they have hated the imposture of the Ilorin Emirs since the beginning of British rule, tend to be usually cool towards Ilorin. Rather it was the treasonable ambition of Afonja and the Yoruba Muslim converts who handed Ilorin to the Fulanis.

Today, the same group are at the forefront fighting to ensure that all Yoruba land falls to Sokoto.

the ibadan warriors that defeated them are still alive.
its only heaven and earth that'll bear witness.

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Westbestside: 11:14am On Apr 03, 2018
Obdk:


ur case is pathetic because u dont kno u r a slave.
Answer now, can people begging for freedom liberate another people?

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Markfemi2: 11:40am On Apr 03, 2018
5thElement:


Oo ni laakaye. Ti o ba ni laakaye ni o ye ki o ye e wipe kii se ori thread ti omo Igbo shi lati fi maa soro si awa Yoruba loye ki o ti ma so gbogbo eleyi.


Ti o ba ni laakaye ni, o ye ki o mo wipe a ni lati koko le kolokolo lo na ki a to ma ba adiye wi.


If you don't understand the proverb in that last statement give it to an interpreter ki o tunmo e fun e.


You aren't the only Yoruba who is a Christian on this forum, mind you.

Ti a ba ta ara ile eni ni opo a o le ri ra pada ni owon. (Another proverb)


Awa wi tai wi o wa so wipe ki Yoruba ronu. Se iwo ronu bayi. Ti o ba ronu jinle wa ri wipe awon omo Igbo fe fi esin ko eyin omo Yoruba si ara won.


We know the ploy of the recalcitrant Yoruba bashers, especially of Igbo origin on this forum.


Their constant use of the phrase " Yoruba Moslems" gives them away as being jealous of the peace that exists in Yorubaland and so, they want to employ the use of divide and conquer tactic.


The Oluwo of Iwo land should be deposed and the crown given to someone else since he doesn't want to be the Oluwo anymore.


That's my submission. And if you're going to make your point, you should open another thread for it. Latching yourself to this thread to insult your fellow Yorubas because of religion shows that YOU are the traitor and you've allowed this fool of an op who despises everything Yoruba to convince you that Yorubas are indeed different because of religion.


You can see the way they've been jumping up and down since the news broke and you thought he actually opened this thread to sympathize with you.


O din ojo kan leni ti awon omo Igbo, awon irankiran maa te ni ile Yoruba. Wo n je, wo n mu, wo n yo faalala ni ile Yoruba bi idun ti o bo sori aatan, won wa n yo suti ete si wa.

Iwo wa nn gbeja won, nitori esin abi nitori omo Igbo ti o n fe abi? Se omo Yoruba to daju ni iwo yii sha?


The Rwandan war between the Hutu and the Tutsi will be child's play when sh1t hits the fan.

Let them continue. Je ki won maa baa lo.

He has not said he doesn’t want to be Oluwo
He said he wants to sell Yoruba Iwo land to Islam because majority of them are muslims
Which means the entire ogun, lagos, ondo, ekiti and Kogi Yoruba with a clear majority Christain population should enforce Christain laws convert themselves to bishop kings
Shame on Yoruba Muslim Elements hell bent on Islamist tendency
Shame on you all
From Afonja to modern day Tinubu
You have only caused embarrassment to Yoruba history simple
Ilorin was lost courtesy Islam
Abiola betrayed Yoruba culture with Islam
Seems you people never learn

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by orisa37: 11:59am On Apr 03, 2018
Too much permisiveness in Yorubaland. Satan is creeping in fast to destroy the fabric of Yoruba fundamental Wisdom. This is where Alafin should step in and together with Ooni, Alake, Soun(Ogbomoso and Oshogbo Monarchs), Akarigbo, Deji, Osemowe, Olowo, not Oluwo, Ewi etc to solve this ugly Iwo problem and those of Eko, Ilorin, Bini etc. Oduduwa is a Religion, but the Muslims are sowing Mischief in the SW. I know that they have tried Alafin and failed. Akanbi has gotten their money and he is now drunk with it.

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by nku5: 12:17pm On Apr 03, 2018
BishopMagic:
First, this thread is not about culture but the seething socio-political quakes that the SW is currently experiencing.
I beg the Mods to leave this thread here as what I am about to post here are relevant to politics board.


Since Oba Akanbi decided to dump the traditions and culture of his ancestral throne for that of a Muslim title similar to what pervades in the Islamic fiefdoms of northern Nigeria, a lot of negative reactions have trailed the move. The Amir is not however facing condemnations only as he has also staunch supporters among his people who see Akanbi's declaration of all Yoruba land as an Emirate under his supreme authority as a welcome development. Akanbi's supporters, as you may rightly guess, are Yoruba Muslims.

Akanbi, did not only declare all Yoruba land an Emirate under his command but also put his purported first class title under the Supreme authority of the Sultan of Sokoto. He has not only abdicated his ancestral throne but swore subservience to Sokoto. His declaration of all Yoruba land being an Emirate under his control automatically transmuted all authority and sovereignty of Odua to Sokoto.

Akanbi's mainly naive Yoruba Muslim supporters, also stated that with this move, Emir Akanbi will be the office from which other Amirs will be appointed across the breath of Yoruba land and that in due time, the traditional stools of authority in Yoruba land will be phased out by the Muslim Emirship.

It is thus glaring that why these Muslim Yorubas support Akanbi's foolishness is driven by their own desire to see that all traditional and cultural stools in Yoruba land are replaced with that of the Islamic system thereby barring non-Muslim Yorubas from occupying any elevated position of power. But naively, these bunch of misguided fools fail to factor that the authority to appoint an Amir in Yoruba land will be decided by Sokoto and not by them.

I can easily predict the bickering and skirmishes that will arise among Yoruba Muslims as to who is to be appointed as an Amir among them. It is from here they will carry themselves to Sokoto for the Sultan to deliberate and appoint among themselves a Muslim leader. In the future, the same Yoruba Muslims out of constant bickering and skirmishes over the Emirship tussle will demand Sokoto to appoint a Fulani to rule them and from there, the Yoruba culture will vanish and the people will forever be enslaved by Sokoto.

This is what will happen. And it will happen within 50yrs.


You don finish work. Knockout piece. Who get ear make e hear

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 12:21pm On Apr 03, 2018
Markfemi2:


He has not said he doesn’t want to be Oluwo
He said he wants to sell Yoruba Iwo land to Islam because majority of them are muslims
Which means the entire ogun, lagos, ondo, ekiti and Kogi Yoruba with a clear majority Christain population should enforce Christain laws convert themselves to bishop kings
Shame on Yoruba Muslim Elements hell bent on Islamist tendency
Shame on you all
From Afonja to modern day Tinubu
You have only caused embarrassment to Yoruba history simple
Ilorin was lost courtesy Islam
Abiola betrayed Yoruba culture with Islam
Seems you people never learn

So why are you pretending to be Yoruba? And why are you crying more than the bereaved?

Nibo lo ti gba e labara ti o wa n kigbe pe aye e ta?

Read my comments again and understand my grouse with the chap.

I'm not asking him not to vent. Any sensible Yoruba person, Muslim or Christian will be angry with the fool of a king who is supposed to be presented with a calabash.(if you are Yoruba, you will understand the significance of that)

My annoyance with him is him and probably you thinking that this thread is the place to vent.

Open a new one and lets talk on how to get the bastard oba deposed and exiled from Yoruba land and I'm game.

Understood?

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by nku5: 12:35pm On Apr 03, 2018
5thElement:


Oo ni laakaye. Ti o ba ni laakaye ni o ye ki o ye e wipe kii se ori thread ti omo Igbo shi lati fi maa soro si awa Yoruba loye ki o ti ma so gbogbo eleyi.


Ti o ba ni laakaye ni, o ye ki o mo wipe a ni lati koko le kolokolo lo na ki a to ma ba adiye wi.


If you don't understand the proverb in that last statement give it to an interpreter ki o tunmo e fun e.


You aren't the only Yoruba who is a Christian on this forum, mind you.

Ti a ba ta ara ile eni ni opo a o le ri ra pada ni owon. (Another proverb)


Awa wi tai wi o wa so wipe ki Yoruba ronu. Se iwo ronu bayi. Ti o ba ronu jinle wa ri wipe awon omo Igbo fe fi esin ko eyin omo Yoruba si ara won.


We know the ploy of the recalcitrant Yoruba bashers, especially of Igbo origin on this forum.


Their constant use of the phrase " Yoruba Moslems" gives them away as being jealous of the peace that exists in Yorubaland and so, they want to employ the use of divide and conquer tactic.


The Oluwo of Iwo land should be deposed and the crown given to someone else since he doesn't want to be the Oluwo anymore.


That's my submission. And if you're going to make your point, you should open another thread for it. Latching yourself to this thread to insult your fellow Yorubas because of religion shows that YOU are the traitor and you've allowed this fool of an op who despises everything Yoruba to convince you that Yorubas are indeed different because of religion.


You can see the way they've been jumping up and down since the news broke and you thought he actually opened this thread to sympathize with you.


O din ojo kan leni ti awon omo Igbo, awon irankiran maa te ni ile Yoruba. Wo n je, wo n mu, wo n yo faalala ni ile Yoruba bi idun ti o bo sori aatan, won wa n yo suti ete si wa.

Iwo wa nn gbeja won, nitori esin abi nitori omo Igbo ti o n fe abi? Se omo Yoruba to daju ni iwo yii sha?


The Rwandan war between the Hutu and the Tutsi will be child's play when sh1t hits the fan.

Let them continue. Je ki won maa baa lo.

Rwanda ni Limpopo ko.

Blackmailing Yoruba Christians by questioning their yorubaness is an expired tactic. They now know that Igbos have never been and will never be their problem.

You think they have not noticed how quiet you lot are when Fulani herdsmen are inching deeper and deeper into the SW?

You think they don't know that it is you people that have done the desires of the caliphate and continually damage relations with their southern neighbours.

You think that the issue of the arbitrary scrapping of the 1000+ year old Yoruba traditional royal office structure by this Oluwo of Iwo clown can be swept under the carpet because you play the worn-out "Igbo are the enemies" card?


Your eye go soon clear

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 12:53pm On Apr 03, 2018
[quote author=nku5 post=66395563]

Rwanda ni Limpopo ko.

Whatever that is...

Blackmailing Yoruba Christians by questioning their yorubaness is an expired tactic. They now know that Igbos have never been and will never be their problem.

First off, I'm a Catholic. Second, stupidity is when those who have shown how much they hate you come around and start crying more than you over your matter. If the entire Yoruba land turns moslem, how is that any of your fvcking business?
Se won bi somi meja ni?

Since when did you guys start caring so much for the Yorubas?


You think they have not noticed how quiet you lot are when Fulani herdsmen are inching deeper and deeper into the SW?

We know of your mortal fear of the Hausa/Fulani people. We also know that your fear is that the Southwest that is your only hope of survival outside of your ancestral home will fall to the northern barbarians.
Not to worry, we defeated them once, this time we will annihilate them. Ask the Hausas in Ife how far?

You think they don't know that it is you people that have done the desires of the caliphate and continually damage relations with their southern neighbours.

Oh, we are neighbours now? I thought the Yorubas are your mortal enemies. Because of fear of the Fulani animals you are shaking like lead in the harmattan.

You think that the issue of the arbitrary scrapping of the 1000+ year old Yoruba traditional royal office structure by this Oluwo of Iwo clown can be swept under the carpet because you play the worn-out "Igbo are the enemies" card?

Like I said, face front. We will handle the issue by ourselves. We don't need you to point anything out to us. None of your business.
The Igbos are their own enemies. If we considered you enemies you'd be dying in your thousands everyday in Yoruba land.


Your eye go soon clear

It has always been clear and it will always be clear.
When the fight starts with the northern barbarians, you are free to pack your bags and return to the east. After all fleeing to the east is what you're all good at.

The stool of the Oluwo will be reclaimed, mark my words. It's just a matter of time.

I know what your wishes are. That Yorubas will turn on themselves and start killing each other. Maybe you aren't aware that your people numbering in their millions in Yoruba land aren't also safe. undecided

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by lordkush: 1:36pm On Apr 03, 2018
Corrinthians:
Mynd44, Lalasticlala, Seun, Obinoscopy, Dominique. Rule 2
you're even a Yoruba Muslim. nowinder you always typing rubbish

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Markfemi2: 1:57pm On Apr 03, 2018
5thElement:


So why are you pretending to be Yoruba? And why are you crying more than the bereaved?

Nibo lo ti gba e labara ti o wa n kigbe pe aye e ta?

Read my comments again and understand my grouse with the chap.

I'm not asking him not to vent. Any sensible Yoruba person, Muslim or Christian will be angry with the fool of a king who is supposed to be presented with a calabash.(if you are Yoruba, you will understand the significance of that)

My annoyance with him is him and probably you thinking that this thread is the place to vent.

Open a new one and lets talk on how to get the bastard oba deposed and exiled from Yoruba land and I'm game.

Understood?

I’m not pretending to be Yoruba
But with your enemy is saying something about you and it ends up showing some form of truth I woll be borthered.

Osun is already a case study
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by orisa37: 2:28pm On Apr 03, 2018
Who doesn't know Judas that sold Jesus for money? Akanbi is. Who doesn't know the Enemy that sowed Tares in his master's Weet farm? Current Oluwo is. Yoruba Obas should please team up to remove Akanbi traditionally, wisely and peacefully. He has gotten money from Sokoto and Kano and Daura. "Ebe lanbe Ajole" meaning It's traditional to beg Arsonist.
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by nku5: 2:49pm On Apr 03, 2018
author=5thElement post=66395900]

Honestly your disjointed epistle was hardly legible and I made little sense of it. However understand this:

1. If you really are a Christian (which i hope not for your own sake) and you represent the average mindset of a Yoruba Christian (which I doubt) then the OP's prediction is likely to come to pass in 20 years not even up to 50.

2.Ogbeni SW is part of my country (at least for now) grin which means I have a stake. If e too pain you go slap the nearest soldier wey you see for road. Funny enough Igbos have always meant better for you than you have meant for yourselves. Did a SW Rep not raise alarm last week at the NASS that up to 500 Fulani militants were camped in the bushes somewhere in his state? Now Oluwo is no longer an Oba he is now an Emir but you can't connect the dots for sake of your tomorrow, instead you are here fantasizing about Igbos

3. The SE/SS has never been a priority of the jihadists. Maybe SS oil but not our land. Even before the colonial masters came they never nursed any imperialistic ambition in our direction like they had for your land and people. The only time there was combat was when a contingent of fulani-hausa soldiers wandered and mistakenly ran into Ezza warriors from present day Ebonyi and was torn apart. They are trying to use Islam to infiltrate Ebonyi today but it will fail because it can never take root in igboland like it has in yorubaland

SW coastline belongs to the Sokoto caliphate as far as they are concerned. Awo promised the north a corridor to the sea before the civil war to avoid them declaring war on you too. You are terribly deluded and badly uninformed. History has shown that the only reason why the north is able to feel tough in Nigeria is because of you guys.

Truth is friggin bitter but like medicine you go swallow am last last

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by reality1010: 4:02pm On Apr 03, 2018
BishopMagic:
First, this thread is not about culture but the seething socio-political quakes that the SW is currently experiencing.
I beg the Mods to leave this thread here as what I am about to post here are relevant to politics board.


Since Oba Akanbi decided to dump the traditions and culture of his ancestral throne for that of a Muslim title similar to what pervades in the Islamic fiefdoms of northern Nigeria, a lot of negative reactions have trailed the move. The Amir is not however facing condemnations only as he has also staunch supporters among his people who see Akanbi's declaration of all Yoruba land as an Emirate under his supreme authority as a welcome development. Akanbi's supporters, as you may rightly guess, are Yoruba Muslims.

Akanbi, did not only declare all Yoruba land an Emirate under his command but also put his purported first class title under the Supreme authority of the Sultan of Sokoto. He has not only abdicated his ancestral throne but swore subservience to Sokoto. His declaration of all Yoruba land being an Emirate under his control automatically transmuted all authority and sovereignty of Odua to Sokoto.

Akanbi's mainly naive Yoruba Muslim supporters, also stated that with this move, Emir Akanbi will be the office from which other Amirs will be appointed across the breath of Yoruba land and that in due time, the traditional stools of authority in Yoruba land will be phased out by the Muslim Emirship.

It is thus glaring that why these Muslim Yorubas support Akanbi's foolishness is driven by their own desire to see that all traditional and cultural stools in Yoruba land are replaced with that of the Islamic system thereby barring non-Muslim Yorubas from occupying any elevated position of power. But naively, these bunch of misguided fools fail to factor that the authority to appoint an Amir in Yoruba land will be decided by Sokoto and not by them.

I can easily predict the bickering and skirmishes that will arise among Yoruba Muslims as to who is to be appointed as an Amir among them. It is from here they will carry themselves to Sokoto for the Sultan to deliberate and appoint among themselves a Muslim leader. In the future, the same Yoruba Muslims out of constant bickering and skirmishes over the Emirship tussle will demand Sokoto to appoint a Fulani to rule them and from there, the Yoruba culture will vanish and the people will forever be enslaved by Sokoto.

This is what will happen. And it will happen within 50yrs.

Why all d fuss again?Emir Akanbi will not be d only Emir in Yoruba land.There can be as much as 10 emirs in Yoruba land.Aside being an Emir,if Akanbi is a Moslem he has been under d Sultan in d past and there s nothing new.Like I keep saying,what if Akanbi had converted to a Bishop ?
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by GworoChewinMaga: 4:47pm On Apr 03, 2018
reality1010:

Why all d fuss again?Emir Akanbi will not be d only Emir in Yoruba land.There can be as much as 10 emirs in Yoruba land.Aside being an Emir,if Akanbi is a Moslem he has been under d Sultan in d past and there s nothing new.Like I keep saying,what if Akanbi had converted to a Bishop ?

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

― Marcus Tullius Cicero [img]http://coffeeshopthinking.files./2012/10/cicero1.jpg?w=186&h=240[/img]
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 4:51pm On Apr 03, 2018
nku5:


[s]Honestly your disjointed epistle was hardly legible and I made little sense of it. However understand this:

1. If you really are a Christian (which i hope not for your own sake) and you represent the average mindset of a Yoruba Christian (which I doubt) then the OP's prediction is likely to come to pass in 20 years not even up to 50.

2.Ogbeni SW is part of my country (at least for now) grin which means I have a stake. If e too pain you go slap the nearest soldier wey you see for road. Funny enough Igbos have always meant better for you than you have meant for yourselves. Did a SW Rep not raise alarm last week at the NASS that up to 500 Fulani militants were camped in the bushes somewhere in his state? Now Oluwo is no longer an Oba he is now an Emir but you can't connect the dots for sake of your tomorrow, instead you are here fantasizing about Igbos

3. The SE/SS has never been a priority of the jihadists. Maybe SS oil but not our land. Even before the colonial masters came they never nursed any imperialistic ambition in our direction like they had for your land and people. The only time there was combat was when a contingent of fulani-hausa soldiers wandered and mistakenly ran into Ezza warriors from present day Ebonyi and was torn apart. They are trying to use Islam to infiltrate Ebonyi today but it will fail because it can never take root in igboland like it has in yorubaland

SW coastline belongs to the Sokoto caliphate as far as they are concerned. Awo promised the north a corridor to the sea before the civil war to avoid them declaring war on you too. You are terribly deluded and badly uninformed. History has shown that the only reason why the north is able to feel tough in Nigeria is because of you guys.

Truth is friggin bitter but like medicine you go swallow am last last[/s]


Is it really soo difficult to understand the simple grammar I used earlier?

I wish I could only use 3-letter-words so you'll comprehend, but that won't be possible.

Here's the best I can do:

Why are you so concerned?

Why don't you mind your fvcking business?

How does this matter impact your own life that you now want to kill yourself on top the matter?


Phew! That's as low as I can go. I've run out of simple words.

If you still don't get it, maybe you show it to the nearest primary 6 pupil to help you out.

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by GworoChewinMaga: 4:57pm On Apr 03, 2018
[s]
5thElement:



Is it really soo difficult to understand the simple grammar I used earlier?

I wish I could only use 3-letter-words so you'll comprehend, but that won't be possible.

Here's the best I can do:

Why are you so concerned?

Why don't you mind your fvcking business?

How does this matter impact your own life that you now want to kill yourself on top the matter?


Phew! That's as low as I can go. I've run out of simple words.

If you still don't get it, maybe you show it to the nearest primary 6 pupil to help you out.
[/s]

We should be concerned because it is now clear that the Yoruba Muslim's loyalty lies not with his kin but with a stranger.

We have read of this before and everything points to a repeat of afonja.

And it is obviously very clear that yoruba muslims will do all they can to ensure Sharia law is spread to their enclave.

That the same Yoruba Muslim prefers to be led by a Fulani man and that Sooner or later Sokoto will be sending their princes to your region to administer you.

It is from here we now understand why you have never had the ambition to govern yourselves as an independent Nation, that as a Yoruba Muslim you still see Sokoto as your overlords.

This is not multiculturalism but subservience.

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 5:01pm On Apr 03, 2018
Markfemi2:


I’m not pretending to be Yoruba
But with your enemy is saying something about you and it ends up showing some form of truth I woll be borthered.

Osun is already a case study

Tell me, what power exactly do these Traditional rulers wield in the society?

Can the man single handedly turn the entire town to an Islamic one?

It is only a matter of time before his stupidity catches up with him.

Personally, I'm not bothered. What I don't understand is why non Yorubas are the ones screaming up and down.

When the people of Iwo decide to wake up from their slumber and do the needful, then we will back then up.

But what exactly do you want us to do? Start killing Yorubas who are moslem?

Like really? Do you realize that there are Moslems and Christians in every Yoruba family?

The person I blame is the Osun state governor. The man is an Islamic fanatic and a fool too. He should have deposed this man a long time ago.

Anyway, we await the end of his tenure. Then the matter will be addressed with the new governor if not sooner.

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 5:06pm On Apr 03, 2018
GworoChewinMaga:
[s][/s]

We should be concerned because it is now clear that the Yoruba Muslim's loyalty lies not with his kin but with a stranger.

We have read of this before and everything points to a repeat of afonja.

And it is obviously very clear that yoruba muslims will do all they can to ensure Sharia law is spread to their enclave.

That the same Yoruba Muslim prefers to be led by a Fulani man and that Sooner or later Sokoto will be sending their princes to your region to administer you.

It is from here we now understand why you have never had the ambition to govern yourselves as an independent Nation, that as a Yoruba Muslim you still see Sokoto as your overlords.

This is not multiculturalism but subservience.


Well Mr. We-should-be-concerned, what exactly do you plan to do about the matter then since you are very much concerned.


We are eager to hear you highlight your plan of action.


Oya, we are waiting, Mr I-should-be-concerned.

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by seniorkachion(m): 5:07pm On Apr 03, 2018
slimfit1:
He is just looking for attention I'm a yoruba man the moment Alafin of Oyo say we should call him emir and Alake, Awuru Jale or Oni of Ife then Yoruba people dont exist anymore any other king is not important they can do whatever they like.

If you are Yoruba, why are you spelling Awujale as Awuru Jale and Ooni as Oni?
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by GworoChewinMaga: 5:31pm On Apr 03, 2018
5thElement:


Well Mr. We-should-be-concerned, what exactly do you plan to do about the matter then since you are very much concerned.


We are eager to hear you highlight your plan of action.


Oya, we are waiting, Mr I-should-be-concerned.

The problem has always been that you Oyo-robas are not capable of ruling yourselves.

You need a powerful third party to keep the peace among you.

Afonja's 1817 rebellion and subsequent Jihadist raids by Awusa/Fulani/Yoruba Muslims from Ilorin had done so much damage to the power and stability of the Odua people. Lagos was invaded by British forces in 1851 with little or no resistance and formally annexed in 1861. The British maintained Lagos as a strategic port city from where they traded with the hinterland natives, mostly in slaves in exchange for guns. The British will arm both the Jihadist and the Yoruba resistance up until they were asked to broker a truce between Ilorin and Ibadan. The outcome of this, was the establishment of a full-fledged Emirate which became an extension of the Sokoto Caliphate. Sokoto never forgot this good will and as such were open to talks and trade with the British invaders. Then the Kiriji wars began - an inter-cine civil war among the Yorubas in their shrinking empire. The 16 yr conflict began from 1877 up till 1893. The British continued to support each warring faction to both elongate the conflict to further weaken the remnant of what was once the great Oyo empire and also to benefit financially from the senseless conflict.

The Yorubas will then approach the same British to help end the conflict and come and rule them. It is from this point that the British got a solid footing into Nigeria and in just 8yrs (1901) later, the entire Nigerian territory was declared a colony of Britain.

By 1914, out of financial and administrative exigency, the amalgamation of both Northern and Southern protectorates was declared by Lugard.

The period 1914-1960 were the glory years for the Yorubas as they witnessed no wars and Yoruba unity began to emerge.

In 1960, with the British departing, the Yorubas almost immediately began their unnecessary squabbles. Riots and electoral violence were a hallmark of the old Western Region electoral process. It seemed the Yoruba were not capable of deciding their leaders through democratic and civil means.

The fallout of the political crisis in the old Western Region has been linked to the motivation of the misplaced Marxist coup which will later kick start the Nigerian Civil war.

The Military era between 1966 -1979, saw a cessation of Yoruba acrimony and senseless warring among themselves only for it to rear it's ugly head during the civilian era of Shehu Shagari. The pattern of peaceful co-existence within the Yoruba peoples continues with subsequent military dispensations up until the return to democratic rule in 1999 and from where the Yorubas began their incessant warring over the ballot-box.

It is thus safe to assume the following;

1. That for all the talk of civility and sophistication, the Yoruba is incapable of deciding in a civil and democratic manner whom to lead or represent them.

2. SW Nigeria has been the pioneering region of all democratic vices such as ballot snatching, thuggery, voter disenfranchisement, voter enticement and what not.

3. That the Yoruba requires a powerful third party to administer peace and Justice among them.

Is this then no wonder why the average Yoruba is afraid of an independent sovereign state knowing fully well that a Yoruba Nation will be an anarchist pipe-dream.

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 5:37pm On Apr 03, 2018
GworoChewinMaga:


[s]The problem has always been that you Oyo-robas are not capable of ruling yourselves.

You need a powerful third party to keep the peace among you.

Afonja's 1817 rebellion and subsequent Jihadist raids by Awusa/Fulani/Yoruba Muslims from Ilorin had done so much damage to the power and stability of the Odua people. Lagos was invaded by British forces in 1851 with little or no resistance and formally annexed in 1861. The British maintained Lagos as a strategic port city from where they traded with the hinterland natives, mostly in slaves in exchange for guns. The British will arm both the Jihadist and the Yoruba resistance up until they were asked to broker a truce between Ilorin and Ibadan. The outcome of this, was the establishment of a full-fledged Emirate which became an extension of the Sokoto Caliphate. Sokoto never forgot this good will and as such were open to talks and trade with the British invaders. Then the Kiriji wars began - an inter-cine civil war among the Yorubas in their shrinking empire. The 16 yr conflict began from 1877 up till 1893. The British continued to support each warring faction to both elongate the conflict to further weaken the remnant of what was once the great Oyo empire and also to benefit financially from the senseless conflict.

The Yorubas will then approach the same British to help end the conflict and come and rule them. It is from this point that the British got a solid footing into Nigeria and in just 8yrs (1901) later, the entire Nigerian territory was declared a colony of Britain.

By 1914, out of financial and administrative exigency, the amalgamation of both Northern and Southern protectorates was declared by Lugard.

The period 1914-1960 were the glory years for the Yorubas as they witnessed no wars and Yoruba unity began to emerge.

In 1960, with the British departing, the Yorubas almost immediately began their unnecessary squabbles. Riots and electoral violence were a hallmark of the old Western Region electoral process. It seemed the Yoruba were not capable of deciding their leaders through democratic and civil means.

The fallout of the political crisis in the old Western Region has been linked to the motivation of the misplaced Marxist coup which will later kick start the Nigerian Civil war.

The Military era between 1966 -1979, saw a cessation of Yoruba acrimony and senseless warring among themselves only for it to rear it's ugly head during the civilian era of Shehu Shagari. The pattern of peaceful co-existence within the Yoruba peoples continues with subsequent military dispensations up until the return to democratic rule in 1999 and from where the Yorubas began their incessant warring over the ballot-box.

It is thus safe to assume the following;

1. That for all the talk of civility and sophistication, the Yoruba is incapable of deciding in a civil and democratic manner whom to lead or represent them.

2. SW Nigeria has been the pioneering region of all democratic vices such as ballot snatching, thuggery, voter disenfranchisement, voter enticement and what not.

3. That the Yoruba requires a powerful third party to administer peace and Justice among them.

Is this then no wonder why the average Yoruba is afraid of an independent sovereign state knowing fully well that a Yoruba Nation will be an anarchist pipe-dream.[/s]

Lolest. This term paper just for lil ol me?

May God provide work for your jobless hands.

Next!
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by seniorkachion(m): 5:38pm On Apr 03, 2018
adadike:
oh my God! this is d first time I am hearing this

A story well told too. Fulani are too few to conquer any major group. They use the locals after manipulating them with religion. The fulani Jihadists lost those battles where they could not use the locals against their own people, for instance, the Tiv and Kanuri defeated them easily.
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by GworoChewinMaga: 5:39pm On Apr 03, 2018
5thElement:


Lolest. This term paper just for lil ol me?

May God provide work for your jobless hands.

Next!

Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 5:41pm On Apr 03, 2018
[quote author=GworoChewinMaga post=66403336][/quote]

You are for sale?

Lalasticlala, please move this thing to the right section. Thanks.

I hope you get a good buyer.
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by nku5: 6:49pm On Apr 03, 2018
5thElement:


Why are you so concerned?

Why don't you mind your fvcking business?

How does this matter impact your own life that you now want to kill yourself on top the matter?
.


According to the Emir of Kano Sanusi he said you people have proved incapable of rising above narrow interests. Almost every literate Nigerian adult has read this Sanusi piece. Or do I need to Google it for you. These narrow parochial interests almost always affect EVERYBODY else in this country. We have large investments in Lagos so we must keep admonishing you people to wipe your nyash well after poo-poo grin

1. The Nigerian civil war can be traced to the madness of the Western Region Crisis when you people were doing operation wetie and Awo and Akintola supporters were burning themselves by the thousands.

2. The Kano riots that claimed the lives of plenty of innocent southerners in 1953 was caused when Northern Reps were jeered and booed in Lagos by your people

3. You people in recent times helped put Buhari the calamity in office at the expense of your southern brother

You guys need supervision
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by slimfit1(m): 8:13pm On Apr 03, 2018
seniorkachion:


If you are Yoruba, why are you spelling Awujale as Awuru Jale and Ooni as Oni?

Lool thanks for the correction
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 9:22pm On Apr 03, 2018
[quote author=nku5 post=66404969]


According to the Emir of Kano Sanusi he said you people have proved incapable of rising above narrow interests. Almost every literate Nigerian adult has read this Sanusi piece. Or do I need to Google it for you. These narrow parochial interests almost always affect EVERYBODY else in this country. We have large investments in Lagos so we must keep admonishing you people to wipe your nyash well after poo-poo grin

And of course the Emir of Kano is your go-to guy for everything Yoruba that you need to know.

Yes, we know you have large investments in Lagos. Very large. All those bales of second hand clothes and shoes you sell on the corner of every street, the tons of fan yogo your uncles sell in traffic, not to mention fake drugs, substandard goods imported to every nook and cranny of Yoruba land from Aba and China. Yes. Huge investments indeed

[s]
1. The Nigerian civil war can be traced to the madness of the Western Region Crisis when you people were doing operation wetie and Awo and Akintola supporters were burning themselves by the thousands.

2. The Kano riots that claimed the lives of plenty of innocent southerners in 1953 was caused when Northern Reps were jeered and booed in Lagos by your people

3. You people in recent times helped put Buhari the calamity in office at the expense of your southern brother
[/s]
You guys need supervision

You don't deserve an answer. But I'm just curious on that last statement. Is that the reason why the Igbos troop in in their thousands daily into the Southwest? So that they can supervise us? grin

When you are tired of being a complete dolt, you'll pack yourself and your parasitic family back to the erosion ravaged, barren land y'all are running away from in the east.

But we both know you'll rather die than go back there.

I don't blame you. Who wants to go to a lifeless, barren region where dog-eat-dog attitude is the common law?

Hopefully, when we eventually give you Biafra, you and your people will put into use the good attitude you've learnt from your hosts, the Yorubas.

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Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by nku5: 9:32pm On Apr 03, 2018
[quote author=5thElement post=66409240][/quote]

I hope for your sake you are actually a little kid in high school grin grin

If you are actually an adult then wahala dey
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Markfemi2: 11:28pm On Apr 03, 2018
5thElement:


Tell me, what power exactly do these Traditional rulers wield in the society?

Can the man single handedly turn the entire town to an Islamic one?

It is only a matter of time before his stupidity catches up with him.

Personally, I'm not bothered. What I don't understand is why non Yorubas are the ones screaming up and down.

When the people of Iwo decide to wake up from their slumber and do the needful, then we will back then up.

But what exactly do you want us to do? Start killing Yorubas who are moslem?

Like really? Do you realize that there are Moslems and Christians in every Yoruba family?

The person I blame is the Osun state governor. The man is an Islamic fanatic and a fool too. He should have deposed this man a long time ago.

Anyway, we await the end of his tenure. Then the matter will be addressed with the new governor if not sooner.

I didn’t say kill anyone o
Pls pls and pls
God forbid
Re: Why Oyo-roba Muslims Are In Total Support Of Emir Akanbi by Nobody: 6:33am On Apr 04, 2018
nku5:


I hope for your sake you are actually a little kid in high school grin grin

If you are actually an adult then wahala dey

And I hope for the unborn generation you are actually an aborted foetus typing on here, but I guess that's too much to hope for.

We only have to wait and see as your generation rue the day you were born.

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